I installed the IFS kit on my 2006 Freightliner Thomas Built school bus we are converting to a Skoolie. It has a CAT C7 and the only problem i had installing the kit was routing the hoses. I ended up wrapping them with the plastic hydraulic line wrap and it seems to be working just fine. I will be putting some pics and video on my channel showing the install. I haven't been on the road with it yet and the directions advise to run at 55 for a bit but so far with a fresh oil and filter change it starts fine and I run it a couple times a week to keep it from just setting. Kit is fairly easy to install and George was fast to respond. Thank you Adept Ape for your videos.
I purchased this kit after watching your review. Amazingly I do sleep better not thinking about a entire injector rebuild. Installed the system myself on a C7, fairly straight forward. Called owner he was very helpful and knowledgeable. My only concern is if someone else ever changes the filter for me is when they remove the filter housing that they secure the top half so it doesn't damage the rubber mounts on top from the twisting. Hearing the horror stories about HEUI systems I was ready to sell my RV until I installed the IFS kit. Just to do my best to make sure the HEUI system does not fail I change oil and filters every 5000 miles and only use Cat oil and filters 2007 Tiffin RV 350HP C7 . I also send off a sample of oil on every oil change I think when it comes time to sell a paper history of the oil will make a difference. A little OCD is a good thing.
A really decent, unbiased review of a product that can potentially save a person thousands of dollars in unnecessary repairs. Was very cool the way you left it to the viewer to decide if this upgrade is right for them, and didn't attempt to push a sale. Great job Josh
I installed the kit about a month ago. So clearly I invested in this idea. I wish Adept showed a how too.. as this does take some finesse. There are also variations on engines that make using the hoses and fitting supplied a challenge to connect and route. I have a 2006 build C9 to reference. In my case I had to have a hose made that had a different length 90 degree neck. The hose that came with it could not make the angles and clearance. I got my new hose at the local auto parts store, just beware to get a very high quality and pressure hose there are differences, one shop had a better hose than the other. The owner of IFS was very helpful and I did buy the additional hose, not willing to wait for him to ship me one. So just know you may not have any issues or may have to adjust.
You can just go to your local Parker Store and get a high pressure filter housing, fittings, and filter of same Micron rating as OE cat oil filter. Get hoses made for a lot less that $980. However you introduce the possibility of material from hoses breaking down damaging the injectors. I would have to mount this unit on the engine somehow and custom bend stainless tubing to make it really bullet proof. Also as far as the heui oil pump goes, I would just mount another spin on filter manifold and plumb it to the pump and engine possibly mount both filters side by side on a fabricated mount stand on engine and custom plumb both with stainless tubing.
I highly doubt you are going to get a high pressure filter housing for containing oil at 4k+ psi at Parker. Also why do all of that , when some one has package and design one that does it it. Just install it and route the hoses.
You should keep it and install it on yours or a friends unit. I just installed mine last week on a cat 3126b 8YL family. I feel way more comfortable starting this unit now knowing it might not cost me thousands of $$$ to fix anymore, just hundreds of $$ now. lol
That's a pretty common filter housing on medium and heavy equipment, usually used for filtering hydraulic pilot systems. Quality stuff for sure, if you have the room and $$ to run this setup then there are few downsides besides adding more complexity. But yea, pretty much only the most dedicated, proactive guys are going to spring for it.
Thanks for this video. And thank you guys for commenting on this product. I'm driving a company owned Pete 330 with a 3126 in a dump truck application. Available space, flow rate during cold season are on my mind. Definately checking this product out
Just a thought. Isn’t the replacement steel hose to get away from the rubber type hose that is now being put back on with this kit potentially going to lead to a hose failure that then rocks the injectors. Which is why they went to a steel hose..?
Cool video! I got two 2006 Chevrolet 6500 with a C-7- 7.2L engine both are hitting 300,000 miles I’ve been using your tips to keep them running efficiently. My question is when should change the water pump, Huey pump, should I look for failure symptoms or just change them because of the mileage? Thanks Bro for your videos!
I bet you are a exceptional technician. Just watching your videos, and especially this one. A fair, honest opinion of an expensive, yet highly functional, filter assembly. You went out of your way to explain the product. Not endorse.
Michael, I agree. After emailing AA he made it clear that he was going to provide his professional opinion, good or bad, and that it was based on the product quality and use. Knowing our product success, we had no hesitation to provide the IFS kit for his review. He was spot on and accurate in all his statements. Being the owner of IFS, we had nothing to hide.
Well I must say if you need to get a 6 pack of injectors what's an extra 900 bucks I mean what one more filter it also makes you more attentive of your fuel system is I'd say it worth the investment
Great info I have 2003 C-7 the ECM is being replaced I’d like to add more horse power how much more house power do you recommend adding the engine has 83,000 miles on it
Is this kind of problem common on the Ford 7.3 PSD or the 6.0 PSD? I don't read that many articles on "Powerstrokehelp" about the HPOP sending metal through injectors. 6:00 I'm sure an HPOP does produce wear metals throughout its life, much like every other engine part. Perhaps this filter does add something to injector life because of that. 6:32 I guess the injectors could be hurt of the pressure drop post filter was too high.
I stumbled across your page and subscribed because I recently acquired a Cat 3126. Do you know where to get this IFS KIT ? I've looked online and googled the description but haven't found it available. Thanks 👍
I know the HUEI pump needs clean oil. I finally put on an Amsoil bypass filter. I wish I would have kept my system on, but it caused me more problems, On reflection, if I would have had a bypass filter, then this would have been ok.
Do the lines have pressure on them when the engine is off? I bought the kit for our 2006 Freightliner Thomas Built Skoolie with the CAT C7 and I am getting ready to install it but was wondering if the existing lines would still have pressure. Might be a dumb question.
Hi there. I have a problem with a 06 ram Cummins 3500 turbo diesel, has 159,000k. I recently purchased the vehicle a couple months back and it has ran perfectly up to a few days ago. I purchased hot shots extreme diesel cleaner and boost, added it at the gas station then filled up the tank. I specifically did it exactly how it was instructed to do on the bottle, it ran fine for 2 days and only put 60 miles on it in those 2 days. For the last 3 mornings at first start up it smokes white smoke and idles terrible along with spitting and sputtering, last for about 2 minutes then smooths out, runs great after that. Do you have any suggestions or ideas what going on? Greatly appreciate it.
@@jacobdukes4741 I ended up having to take the truck in do to it was getting worst at start up. The additive I put in the tank for surely did its job, so well infact that it loosened up sediment in the tank and everywhere else in the fuel system. Number 6 and one other injector got stuck open, now they have to be replaced. They reccomend replacing all injectors instead of replacing just the bad ones, so I am having them all replaced for a hefty price of 5 grand. That includes cleaning out the fuel tank and fuel lines the fuel system. Thanks for your input appreciate it.
This is designed for HEUI system. The engine oil is boosted to around 4,200 max through the HEUI pump used to intensify the fuel in the injector. Our system is designed for an operating pressure of 5,850 psi with a 4:1 safety factor.
Will adding another filter on the line decrease the oil pressure or void the warranty. How long will a heui pump last if oil is change frequently . How come you cannot purchase the solenoid and gasket for heui pump.
I'm looking at getting a 2005 Crescendo Gulf Stream RV. In the original brochure from the factory it list the engine as a "350Hp Catipillar large block sleeved diesel engine". I was thinking the engine is a C7 but I thought those weren't sleeved. Is there such a thing as a sleeved C7 or is it possibly some other type of Cat engine? Maybe whomever wrote the info on the original brochure was wrong.
What happens if the HEUI pump fails? The filter plugs and begins to collapse (or explode depending on direction of flow) so is there a pressure switch or something to shut it all down before the filter media itself starts to get loose and cause even more problems?
Long before anything happens to the element, your engine has already shut down. The ECM and IAP will throw codes indicating command verses actual is an error. The projected area of the element is four times a detonating HEUI pump particulate.
I have freightliner M2 with Cat C7, it was smoking bad and low power when I bought, all injectors were bad so got those changed. Power is OK now but smokes a lot when start up, runs rough till water temperature hits 150, once water hits 150 on temperature,smokes reduces a lot and runs smooth. While running sometimes exhaust gives blue smoke puffs, startup has mixed smoke white and bluish. Please suggest what can be cause to this!
Looking to buy a skoolie, the HEUI pump and injector expense is what would keep me from buying a bus with an 3126 or C7....on the flipside, the 8.3L cummins are a fair bit more expensive. I would see that this filter kit would be a necessity. Which is the better engine to buy, a 3126 or a c7?
I'm wondering if adding the inline filter between the HEUI pump and Injectors would cause increased oil pressure in the pump and would that cause a HEUI pump problem or failure. Also, would the oil filter cause decreased injector oil pressure and if so would that be detected by the ECM resulting in a trouble code?
I installed one on my C7 cat engine. Everything you just said happened to my truck. I had to take it off for my truck to run normal again. Waste of money.
Great video as always If you were to use one of these filter units what would be a good maintenance schedule? SHould you change them every lof or every other since they are auxiliary filters Thanks Jeff
Jeff, our testing has shown the interval to be, for example:: 5,000 mile engine oil change = 15,000 mile IFS element change. This is relative to a healthy HEUI pump.
How many microns is the filter? This was probably asked already but I can’t sort through, at this moment 137 comments, because it will give me a headache. Thanks!
I would not tighten that filter with a wrench I believe the recommended way is to tighten by hand and unscrew a quarter turn. The pressure on the o-ring of the filter housing makes it become stuck
Not sure the condition you are referring to but we have not experienced this at any time. We removed and replaced many elements for contamination during our testing and never had the condition you have shared. Our instruction manual clearly states hand tighten until you feel a hard stop then cinch with a wrench.
Quick question. Why does CAT or anyone else make a Jake brake for the 3126B? I know you can put an exhaust brake on the exhaust pipe but I wish I could buy a true engine brake.
Hey! Love your videos man, I have a question. Got a 1963 Cat 966b model wheel loader. The engine is blowing coolant out the top of the head on injectors 2 and 4, lots of blow by, coolant in crankcase, few other issues. Anyways, I've been tasked with ordering everything for it and rebuilding it. Awesome! A nice piece of history. However, I've never worked on anything older than a b model. I believe this engine in it is the D333. How can you identify it? Any info at all on the loader or engine? There is no tag and I cant find any others numbers stamped anywhere. I called Warner Cat and talked to a guy a bit, helpful, but not alot. There is a number stamped on the block I gave him, but he said it didnt help him identify anything. Would love some help and any info from anybody about it. Thank you!
Great question. We found no "cold" starting issues. Now, thats not to say we tested in the Yukon at minus 50f. However, if the engine oil pump can get oil to the HEUI then the oil will get to the injectors through the IFS. IF you use a coolant heater in extreme cold then the oil supplied by the engine to the IFS will "warm" the IFS within a few minutes. The IFS housing is capable of 6,000 psi with a 4:1 safety factor. a burst rating of 24,000 psi. Hoses are rated for 5,850 at 4:1 safety factor. The hose "Burst" sleeve is rated for 6,000 psi and in place so that in the event of a pin hole failure of a hose you do not "spray" engine oil on any exhaust component. As AA stated, a nuclear disaster wont affect this unit. Hope we never test that data!!!
I subscribed to you’re channel a couple months back and seen a good amount of you’re videos and was wondering if you just talk/work on cat engines or do you do cat machinery to? Do you also talk other parts of the truck? Like brakes, suspension etc. By the way awesome videos!
Like you said, high priority extreme duty situations like Alaska runs, it would be a major insurance policy. Hefty price though, I'm wondering if the air dog air fuel separator would be worth investing in for my 3406E as the same sort of insurance for injectors. I saw you had mixed feelings on it in another one of your videos but didn't really hammer down on yea or nae on whether its a good system.
I like the Airdog systems, I'm not sure if small amounts of air damage the injectors as much as some people think though. I've seen many engines run with million mile injectors with them consuming small amounts of air. Not saying they wouldn't have maybe lasted longer if the fuel system was in better shape though. Hard to say, but I like the idea.
No different than your engine oil filter. The delta across the element is proportional to the amount of debris coming out of the HEUI. We tested the delta with ceramic transducers pre and post IFS to find no significant PD. Remembering we are measuring, for the most part, 850-4,200 psi relative to engine load and ECM command signal. By the time the element is "packing" with debris from a failing HEUI, your engine has already shut down or in low power mode throwing codes.
I bought a 389 Glider and it has a MXS ACERT engine, I just hit 4,500 miles. I’m going to change the oil, what weight oil do you recommend, I like to use Lucas oil. Thank you
Hey Josh I just accepted a job as an apprentice under a heavy equipment field tech at MacAllister cat in Indiana. I start the job in a few weeks, do you have any tips for me starting out
@@michaelharrington6372 yeah I know that. I'm riding with a field tech for the next 2 years so I dont even have a place to put my tools until after that but they still tried getting me to borrow 3k for cat branded snapon tools
Hi Josh, I'm in the process of importing into The Netherlands a LMTV with a C7 Acert engine. FML00019 I'm looking to get a registered with a EURO 4 rating. For this I need the specs of this engine. How can I get this? Already sent a question to Caterpillar, but did not receive any info yet. Can you help? Thanks in advance, Michel
Hi there I just notices yoou comment explaining your plan. Did you go ahead with it? How are things coming? What was the purpose? I’m interested in these same trucks too. I’d like to make an expedition vehicle some day and they seem like a good starting point specially living in north America in Canada.
@@Eliukcory hi, yes i’m building my camper now. Hopefully the first trip will be late july to the event “Abertuer und Allrad” in Germany. The truck is doing great, no chance tot get it above Euro 2, but that doesn’t matter too much. Next year to Canada👍
@@mvdb5150 love to stay in touch and see how it’s going with your build! shoot me an email with some pictures of where your at! Did you go 4x4 or 6x6? Eliuk.cory@gmail.com If you come to Alberta you can park and stay at my place in rosebud and go to the diner theatre in town!
You are correct. The IFS filters post HEUI oil to protect the common oil rail and injectors. It does nothing for the HEUI pump. Your engine oil filter is responsible for HEUI filtration.
help my bus with 3126 engine wont start. i thought i ran out of diesel but it had 5plus gal, it had fuel in it when i put 5gal in anyway, on the way to fuel station it died out. it felt as i ran out of fuel added 10gal more and changed FF and removed air, had to use starter fluid to start, it ran for about 2mi and died again, the individual helping added oil stabilizer since he thought it was low on oil and traveling long distant, engine started again with starter fluid and ran for 45 to 50 mins smoothly, drove off and engine died again few yards down the road, a couple mechanics looked at it and had different diagnostic. theres no check engine light, added diesel 911 what do i do? i want to understand whats wrong b4 towing to a shop.
Our filter system is for HEUI oil systems that have one common high pressure tubing supplying the common oil rail in the head. This is not specific to only cat. It can be used for any HEUI type system with one common HP output.
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I installed the IFS kit on my 2006 Freightliner Thomas Built school bus we are converting to a Skoolie. It has a CAT C7 and the only problem i had installing the kit was routing the hoses. I ended up wrapping them with the plastic hydraulic line wrap and it seems to be working just fine. I will be putting some pics and video on my channel showing the install. I haven't been on the road with it yet and the directions advise to run at 55 for a bit but so far with a fresh oil and filter change it starts fine and I run it a couple times a week to keep it from just setting. Kit is fairly easy to install and George was fast to respond. Thank you Adept Ape for your videos.
I purchased this kit after watching your review. Amazingly I do sleep better not thinking about a entire injector rebuild. Installed the system myself on a C7, fairly straight forward. Called owner he was very helpful and knowledgeable. My only concern is if someone else ever changes the filter for me is when they remove the filter housing that they secure the top half so it doesn't damage the rubber mounts on top from the twisting. Hearing the horror stories about HEUI systems I was ready to sell my RV until I installed the IFS kit. Just to do my best to make sure the HEUI system does not fail I change oil and filters every 5000 miles and only use Cat oil and filters 2007 Tiffin RV 350HP C7 . I also send off a sample of oil on every oil change I think when it comes time to sell a paper history of the oil will make a difference. A little OCD is a good thing.
You sound like a salesman. Nobody tests their oil every change. I feel you are lying.
@@brandondobschutz5146 It sounds like you dont cut open your fuel and oil filters every time either. Welcome to OCD
You can use a magnet to check if your oil have metal
A really decent, unbiased review of a product that can potentially save a person thousands of dollars in unnecessary repairs.
Was very cool the way you left it to the viewer to decide if this upgrade is right for them, and didn't attempt to push a sale.
Great job Josh
I installed the kit about a month ago. So clearly I invested in this idea. I wish Adept showed a how too.. as this does take some finesse. There are also variations on engines that make using the hoses and fitting supplied a challenge to connect and route. I have a 2006 build C9 to reference. In my case I had to have a hose made that had a different length 90 degree neck. The hose that came with it could not make the angles and clearance. I got my new hose at the local auto parts store, just beware to get a very high quality and pressure hose there are differences, one shop had a better hose than the other. The owner of IFS was very helpful and I did buy the additional hose, not willing to wait for him to ship me one. So just know you may not have any issues or may have to adjust.
You can just go to your local Parker Store and get a high pressure filter housing, fittings, and filter of same Micron rating as OE cat oil filter. Get hoses made for a lot less that $980. However you introduce the possibility of material from hoses breaking down damaging the injectors. I would have to mount this unit on the engine somehow and custom bend stainless tubing to make it really bullet proof. Also as far as the heui oil pump goes, I would just mount another spin on filter manifold and plumb it to the pump and engine possibly mount both filters side by side on a fabricated mount stand on engine and custom plumb both with stainless tubing.
I highly doubt you are going to get a high pressure filter housing for containing oil at 4k+ psi at Parker. Also why do all of that , when some one has package and design one that does it it. Just install it and route the hoses.
Hey dude!!! Thanks for responding to my EMAIL and answering my questions on your videos and email!!!
Excellent idea and I know it’s gonna work very well! Very similar to an Oshkosh hyd filter set up ! Thanks for sharing 👍
Good video. Looks like a high pressure hydraulic filter. High pressure hydraulic filters work very well and are well worth the money.
You should keep it and install it on yours or a friends unit. I just installed mine last week on a cat 3126b 8YL family. I feel way more comfortable starting this unit now knowing it might not cost me thousands of $$$ to fix anymore, just hundreds of $$ now. lol
We thank you for the purchase Nigel. Hope your weather came around rather RAINING!
Another great video from my favorite diesel RUclips channel. As always great content.
That's a pretty common filter housing on medium and heavy equipment, usually used for filtering hydraulic pilot systems.
Quality stuff for sure, if you have the room and $$ to run this setup then there are few downsides besides adding more complexity. But yea, pretty much only the most dedicated, proactive guys are going to spring for it.
I installed the IFS kit a couple of months ago on my C7. Fairly easy installation. Very happy with it so far.
And we thank you for the purchase Craig
George Flanik how can I contact you to get a kit. Thanks
@@joefox7471 filtersystems1@gmail.com
How has the c7 been treating you?
@@marquis1181 Great. My alternator went out last year, but trouble-free other than that.
Thanks for this video. And thank you guys for commenting on this product. I'm driving a company owned Pete 330 with a 3126 in a dump truck application. Available space, flow rate during cold season are on my mind. Definately checking this product out
We just sold a kit to a gentlemen in LA with a similar truck. He called and said it installed easily and was very happy with the peace of mind.
Just a thought. Isn’t the replacement steel hose to get away from the rubber type hose that is now being put back on with this kit potentially going to lead to a hose failure that then rocks the injectors. Which is why they went to a steel hose..?
I bought one of these for my dump truck. It blew the hoses and made a mess 3 times. I finally pulled it off and junked it.
I've always been one to spend a little more Now, than a lot more Later !! 😆😆GREAT VIDEO Thanks William Orange county, ca.
Parker PH has 5000 psi high pressure 10 micron hydraulic filters also.
Great vid glad you covered this
Cool video! I got two 2006 Chevrolet 6500 with a C-7- 7.2L engine both are hitting 300,000 miles I’ve been using your tips to keep them running efficiently. My question is when should change the water pump, Huey pump, should I look for failure symptoms or just change them because of the mileage? Thanks Bro for your videos!
I bet you are a exceptional technician. Just watching your videos, and especially this one. A fair, honest opinion of an expensive, yet highly functional, filter assembly. You went out of your way to explain the product. Not endorse.
Michael, I agree. After emailing AA he made it clear that he was going to provide his professional opinion, good or bad, and that it was based on the product quality and use. Knowing our product success, we had no hesitation to provide the IFS kit for his review. He was spot on and accurate in all his statements. Being the owner of IFS, we had nothing to hide.
@@grouper1utube Could I get website link
@@Quiescent-TRU ifskit.com
LOVE THOSE LABS , HAD A COUPLE .
Yes worth the money thanks for sharing 👍🇦🇺
A friend's Cat excavator calfed out in the bush $15000 and 3 days of down time $1000 doesn't sound so bad 🤔
i bought it. It ended up being more of a problem than a solution.
Well I must say if you need to get a 6 pack of injectors what's an extra 900 bucks I mean what one more filter it also makes you more attentive of your fuel system is I'd say it worth the investment
Great info I have 2003 C-7 the ECM is being replaced I’d like to add more horse power how much more house power do you recommend adding the engine has 83,000 miles on it
Is this kind of problem common on the Ford 7.3 PSD or the 6.0 PSD? I don't read that many articles on "Powerstrokehelp" about the HPOP sending metal through injectors.
6:00 I'm sure an HPOP does produce wear metals throughout its life, much like every other engine part. Perhaps this filter does add something to injector life because of that.
6:32 I guess the injectors could be hurt of the pressure drop post filter was too high.
I stumbled across your page and subscribed because I recently acquired a Cat 3126. Do you know where to get this IFS KIT ? I've looked online and googled the description but haven't found it available. Thanks 👍
I know the HUEI pump needs clean oil. I finally put on an Amsoil bypass filter. I wish I would have kept my system on, but it caused me more problems, On reflection, if I would have had a bypass filter, then this would have been ok.
Had to replace fuel line head seals yesterday,bad oil leaks,never can get the fuel lines to stop leaking when you put them back together.
Do the lines have pressure on them when the engine is off? I bought the kit for our 2006 Freightliner Thomas Built Skoolie with the CAT C7 and I am getting ready to install it but was wondering if the existing lines would still have pressure. Might be a dumb question.
How fine is the micron filtration? Thanks for all your technical video productions!
9 micron
Hi there. I have a problem with a 06 ram Cummins 3500 turbo diesel, has 159,000k. I recently purchased the vehicle a couple months back and it has ran perfectly up to a few days ago. I purchased hot shots extreme diesel cleaner and boost, added it at the gas station then filled up the tank. I specifically did it exactly how it was instructed to do on the bottle, it ran fine for 2 days and only put 60 miles on it in those 2 days. For the last 3 mornings at first start up it smokes white smoke and idles terrible along with spitting and sputtering, last for about 2 minutes then smooths out, runs great after that. Do you have any suggestions or ideas what going on? Greatly appreciate it.
@@jacobdukes4741 I ended up having to take the truck in do to it was getting worst at start up. The additive I put in the tank for surely did its job, so well infact that it loosened up sediment in the tank and everywhere else in the fuel system. Number 6 and one other injector got stuck open, now they have to be replaced. They reccomend replacing all injectors instead of replacing just the bad ones, so I am having them all replaced for a hefty price of 5 grand. That includes cleaning out the fuel tank and fuel lines the fuel system. Thanks for your input appreciate it.
Is the filter media designed to withstand the 4K psi fuel pressure? If not I could see fuel possibly washing away (eroding) the filter media itself.
This is designed for HEUI system. The engine oil is boosted to around 4,200 max through the HEUI pump used to intensify the fuel in the injector. Our system is designed for an operating pressure of 5,850 psi with a 4:1 safety factor.
Its filtering engine oil, not fuel.
Will adding another filter on the line decrease the oil pressure or void the warranty. How long will a heui pump last if oil is change frequently . How come you cannot purchase the solenoid and gasket for heui pump.
Can you use this filter on a 7.3 Powerstroke too? They also have HEUI injectors.
WILL IT NOT AFFECT THE REQUIRED OIL PRESSURE AT THE INJECTORS?
I'm looking at getting a 2005 Crescendo Gulf Stream RV. In the original brochure from the factory it list the engine as a "350Hp Catipillar large block sleeved diesel engine". I was thinking the engine is a C7 but I thought those weren't sleeved. Is there such a thing as a sleeved C7 or is it possibly some other type of Cat engine? Maybe whomever wrote the info on the original brochure was wrong.
What happens if the HEUI pump fails? The filter plugs and begins to collapse (or explode depending on direction of flow) so is there a pressure switch or something to shut it all down before the filter media itself starts to get loose and cause even more problems?
Long before anything happens to the element, your engine has already shut down. The ECM and IAP will throw codes indicating command verses actual is an error. The projected area of the element is four times a detonating HEUI pump particulate.
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Troubleshooting help yes please for 3126 cat
Run then almost shut down then RPM goes back to normal and it goes in like cycles
I have freightliner M2 with Cat C7, it was smoking bad and low power when I bought, all injectors were bad so got those changed.
Power is OK now but smokes a lot when start up, runs rough till water temperature hits 150, once water hits 150 on temperature,smokes reduces a lot and runs smooth. While running sometimes exhaust gives blue smoke puffs, startup has mixed smoke white and bluish.
Please suggest what can be cause to this!
HI I am JEff of rvdiagnostics .I tried to find this unit ,the link tuens up null ,Could you direct me to the manufacture of this kit?
Does this kit filter fuel or oil, if it filters only oil then how does it protect injectors .
Looking to buy a skoolie, the HEUI pump and injector expense is what would keep me from buying a bus with an 3126 or C7....on the flipside, the 8.3L cummins are a fair bit more expensive. I would see that this filter kit would be a necessity.
Which is the better engine to buy, a 3126 or a c7?
I'm wondering if adding the inline filter between the HEUI pump and Injectors would cause increased oil pressure in the pump and would that cause a HEUI pump problem or failure. Also, would the oil filter cause decreased injector oil pressure and if so would that be detected by the ECM resulting in a trouble code?
I installed one on my C7 cat engine. Everything you just said happened to my truck. I had to take it off for my truck to run normal again. Waste of money.
Great video as always If you were to use one of these filter units what would be a good maintenance schedule? SHould you change them every lof or every other since they are auxiliary filters Thanks Jeff
Jeff, our testing has shown the interval to be, for example:: 5,000 mile engine oil change = 15,000 mile IFS element change. This is relative to a healthy HEUI pump.
I installed it and it makes the heui pump make a awful winding noise
How many microns is the filter?
This was probably asked already but I can’t sort through, at this moment 137 comments, because it will give me a headache.
Thanks!
On Donaldson website this filter is supposed to be 9 microns
How many microns can an injector poop out.
How about 3196 cats?
My 3406 cat is leaking out of the front cover do you have a video on how to fox that?
Thanks my boos
I would not tighten that filter with a wrench I believe the recommended way is to tighten by hand and unscrew a quarter turn. The pressure on the o-ring of the filter housing makes it become stuck
Not sure the condition you are referring to but we have not experienced this at any time. We removed and replaced many elements for contamination during our testing and never had the condition you have shared. Our instruction manual clearly states hand tighten until you feel a hard stop then cinch with a wrench.
Hey what is the best oil for a 3126? Thanks
Looks like a CNG fuel filter housing
Quick question. Why does CAT or anyone else make a Jake brake for the 3126B? I know you can put an exhaust brake on the exhaust pipe but I wish I could buy a true engine brake.
Hey! Love your videos man, I have a question. Got a 1963 Cat 966b model wheel loader. The engine is blowing coolant out the top of the head on injectors 2 and 4, lots of blow by, coolant in crankcase, few other issues. Anyways, I've been tasked with ordering everything for it and rebuilding it. Awesome! A nice piece of history. However, I've never worked on anything older than a b model. I believe this engine in it is the D333. How can you identify it? Any info at all on the loader or engine? There is no tag and I cant find any others numbers stamped anywhere. I called Warner Cat and talked to a guy a bit, helpful, but not alot. There is a number stamped on the block I gave him, but he said it didnt help him identify anything.
Would love some help and any info from anybody about it. Thank you!
Could a heater in the unit aid in cold starts?
Great question. We found no "cold" starting issues. Now, thats not to say we tested in the Yukon at minus 50f. However, if the engine oil pump can get oil to the HEUI then the oil will get to the injectors through the IFS. IF you use a coolant heater in extreme cold then the oil supplied by the engine to the IFS will "warm" the IFS within a few minutes. The IFS housing is capable of 6,000 psi with a 4:1 safety factor. a burst rating of 24,000 psi. Hoses are rated for 5,850 at 4:1 safety factor. The hose "Burst" sleeve is rated for 6,000 psi and in place so that in the event of a pin hole failure of a hose you do not "spray" engine oil on any exhaust component.
As AA stated, a nuclear disaster wont affect this unit. Hope we never test that data!!!
I subscribed to you’re channel a couple months back and seen a good amount of you’re videos and was wondering if you just talk/work on cat engines or do you do cat machinery to? Do you also talk other parts of the truck? Like brakes, suspension etc. By the way awesome videos!
Chris Baker he has only worked for cat as a generator tech and truck tech.
Oh ok thank you
Like you said, high priority extreme duty situations like Alaska runs, it would be a major insurance policy.
Hefty price though, I'm wondering if the air dog air fuel separator would be worth investing in for my 3406E as the same sort of insurance for injectors.
I saw you had mixed feelings on it in another one of your videos but didn't really hammer down on yea or nae on whether its a good system.
I like the Airdog systems, I'm not sure if small amounts of air damage the injectors as much as some people think though. I've seen many engines run with million mile injectors with them consuming small amounts of air. Not saying they wouldn't have maybe lasted longer if the fuel system was in better shape though. Hard to say, but I like the idea.
Failure rate on any of those electric pumps is far higher than the rest of the fuel system.
Could adding more filters before and/or after the HEUI pump cause issues with flow rates and pressure drops?
No different than your engine oil filter. The delta across the element is proportional to the amount of debris coming out of the HEUI.
We tested the delta with ceramic transducers pre and post IFS to find no significant PD. Remembering we are measuring, for the most part, 850-4,200 psi relative to engine load and ECM command signal. By the time the element is "packing" with debris from a failing HEUI, your engine has already shut down or in low power mode throwing codes.
Can you please tell me where your shop is?I 2006 bounder 38N with a C7
Any videos for 1993 3176?
I bought a 389 Glider and it has a MXS ACERT engine, I just hit 4,500 miles. I’m going to change the oil, what weight oil do you recommend, I like to use Lucas oil. Thank you
Get the O and M book from Cat. You should have gotten you on the purchase of the product.
You can review the product and a ton of information at ifskit.com/
Hey Josh I just accepted a job as an apprentice under a heavy equipment field tech at MacAllister cat in Indiana. I start the job in a few weeks, do you have any tips for me starting out
Get ready for a never ending tool bill.
@@michaelharrington6372 yeah I know that. I'm riding with a field tech for the next 2 years so I dont even have a place to put my tools until after that but they still tried getting me to borrow 3k for cat branded snapon tools
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Which location?
I wish to work there
Does IFS have a web site? Maybe good for a DT466E?
Yeah, its ifskit.com
Good man
Hi Josh, I'm in the process of importing into The Netherlands a LMTV with a C7 Acert engine. FML00019 I'm looking to get a registered with a EURO 4 rating. For this I need the specs of this engine. How can I get this? Already sent a question to Caterpillar, but did not receive any info yet. Can you help? Thanks in advance, Michel
Hi there I just notices yoou comment explaining your plan. Did you go ahead with it? How are things coming? What was the purpose? I’m interested in these same trucks too. I’d like to make an expedition vehicle some day and they seem like a good starting point specially living in north America in Canada.
@@Eliukcory hi, yes i’m building my camper now. Hopefully the first trip will be late july to the event “Abertuer und Allrad” in Germany. The truck is doing great, no chance tot get it above Euro 2, but that doesn’t matter too much. Next year to Canada👍
@@mvdb5150 love to stay in touch and see how it’s going with your build! shoot me an email with some pictures of where your at! Did you go 4x4 or 6x6? Eliuk.cory@gmail.com If you come to Alberta you can park and stay at my place in rosebud and go to the diner theatre in town!
@@Eliukcory thanks for the invite! I’ll send you and email tomorrow.
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I don't understand, if you have a heavy-duty fuel/water separator, why would you ever need this?
I believe, the filter is before the pump, this goes after pump to protect injectors, in case of pump failure
Because fuel these days is full of brown water, wish I had a water separator
It's filtering the high pressure oil to the injectors not the fuel
@@heavychevy9230 yes, I forgot heui
You are correct. The IFS filters post HEUI oil to protect the common oil rail and injectors. It does nothing for the HEUI pump. Your engine oil filter is responsible for HEUI filtration.
What is the micron filtration of the filter? Did he say in the video? If so I missed it.
From the website:
The filter media is a super fine glass strands that filters to 5 micron.
help my bus with 3126 engine wont start. i thought i ran out of diesel but it had 5plus gal, it had fuel in it when i put 5gal in anyway, on the way to fuel station it died out. it felt as i ran out of fuel added 10gal more and changed FF and removed air, had to use starter fluid to start, it ran for about 2mi and died again, the individual helping added oil stabilizer since he thought it was low on oil and traveling long distant, engine started again with starter fluid and ran for 45 to 50 mins smoothly, drove off and engine died again few yards down the road, a couple mechanics looked at it and had different diagnostic. theres no check engine light, added diesel 911 what do i do? i want to understand whats wrong b4 towing to a shop.
Change the oil, cat engines run rough when oil is dirty,
You added oil and it ran longer, which means it needs an oil change
Where are you located?
If you are asking about IFS location???? The BIG City of Lodi, Ohio. Population of about 1,600.
This guy never ever respond to comments
I have excess smoke/steam coming out of the blow by, what are the most likely causes?
Very good video, do you think it would work or even help on a 7.3 powerstroke? Thanks for all of the great information.
nope, your f*ed
Our filter system is for HEUI oil systems that have one common high pressure tubing supplying the common oil rail in the head. This is not specific to only cat. It can be used for any HEUI type system with one common HP output.
@@fastinradfordable HAHAHAHAHA, story of my life. LOL
Your face just looks like MR BEAST