Paul Gilbert Lesson: The Truth About Inside & Outside Picking (Antigravity, Chapter 24)

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    Chapter 24 of the Antigravity seminar explores the amazing Paul Gilbert, and the often misunderstood concepts of inside and outside picking. Watch the entire Antigravity seminar: troygrady.com/...

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  • @bestboy897
    @bestboy897 7 лет назад +110

    gilbert is the true master of alternate picking

    • @zombiemachinery4868
      @zombiemachinery4868 5 лет назад +13

      Nope, MAB.

    • @waltervt
      @waltervt 5 лет назад +11

      @@zombiemachinery4868 still wrong, Steve Morse is

    • @zombiemachinery4868
      @zombiemachinery4868 5 лет назад +11

      @@waltervt, if you're saying that because of his alternate picking arpeggios I'll give you that one, but when it comes to alternate picking scale runs MAB is out of contest.

    • @Sadowsky46
      @Sadowsky46 5 лет назад

      Zombie Machinery MAB = ?

    • @FlorianArnaud
      @FlorianArnaud 5 лет назад +2

      @@Sadowsky46 Michael Angelo Batio

  • @comic1997
    @comic1997 9 лет назад +9

    Remember the second section of Yngwie's beautiful Trilogy that was always tabbed by 'professionals' as difficult reverse 3 string sweeps but when we saw Yngwie actually perform it we could see it was simple pulloffs from the high e string to the b string. Thanks for your analysis Troy! Absolutely amazing work!

  • @vonmilash823
    @vonmilash823 8 лет назад +7

    I wish RUclips was around twenty five years ago when I was struggling with all this stuff. Every guitar player who's ever tried to reach that next level in speed has inherently known all this stuff, but has never had a guy like this address all these issues. Until now. Amazing player, amazing technical teacher. Bravo bud. Bravo.

    • @Christian-vq8rd
      @Christian-vq8rd 6 лет назад

      Von Milash I was thinking the exact same thing and was thinking about writing a comment about how lucky people starting out now are.

  • @tomrandall6539
    @tomrandall6539 8 лет назад +7

    It's actually an incredibly simple concept, and many virtuoso's such as Paul Gilbert, and Malmsteen would have naturally figured this out because of the sheer amount of time they spend honing and perfecting their technique. Finding out that slanting the pick would make certain lines connect better and feel more natural would be what they would have cracked. Couple that with time, patience, slow practice and perseverance and shredding those lines feel natural.Now to create a dedicated set of videos explaining this type of technique and slowing the video down to show everything in great detail is an absolutely genius idea. Plus, you do it so well, and your playing is so clean with this technique.I salute you sir.

  • @pud354
    @pud354 6 лет назад +319

    I wish Paul Gilbert would volunteer to be interviewed on this channel and have his pick technique analysed in depth via neck mount camera.

    • @beaveittoleaver2327
      @beaveittoleaver2327 4 года назад +24

      He likely won't, because his technique has been successful dissected, as AMAZING as it is, and Paul is better off studying Troy at this point. Kinda weird for me...

    • @AlexAnder-op7yc
      @AlexAnder-op7yc 4 года назад +10

      You think he should volunteer? Thats not usually how shit works

    • @bub305
      @bub305 4 года назад +5

      @@AlexAnder-op7yc how does shit usually work?

    • @AlexAnder-op7yc
      @AlexAnder-op7yc 4 года назад +6

      @@bub305 People don't usually volunteer.. Not sure how you didn't pick that up from my comment. Usually people work for money. That's sort of why it is done.

    • @bub305
      @bub305 4 года назад +36

      @@AlexAnder-op7yc You put a lot of effort into that comment for free.

  • @allanjohnsen1034
    @allanjohnsen1034 9 лет назад +5

    funny thing is that I a few years back looked in to the challenges of picking ... and got a lot of the puzzle right ... I got rid of hand bounce, learned to play properly from the wrist, discovered pickslanting in both directions ... I went at it like a scientist ... I missed out on one or two very important notes ! so this is my contribution to "the code" 1. I didn´t keep it going long enough ( you REALLY need to stay at it ... we are talking years ) 2. I didn´t BUILD the tech carefully enough ... mostly staying in control before speeding up ... I think the measure of this kind of control has to do with precision through RYTHM because you use time as an aim to syncronize the hands together. now I am 1 year into tech again and I can confidently say that you will get better if you stick to the "rules" and stay focussed ! you can`t wing it ... this is athlete sport for guitar

  • @AkisM
    @AkisM 9 лет назад +20

    Troy, are you planning on analyzing more of Paul Gilbert? I noticed you focus mainly on Yngwie and this is perhaps the only video where I've seen you cover Paul. I find that a bit strange given that Paul Gilbert has one of the best right hand techniques out there. But then again I might be biased because he is my favorite guitar player by far.

  • @RaterisimoCBA
    @RaterisimoCBA 9 лет назад +3

    I´ve watched many guitar lesson videos before but your series of videos Troy are without comparisson in the sense that the degree of detail in your explanations and slow motion shots are very useful and straightforward. I´ll be watching more of your material and probably buying your lessons if that´s a possibility. Congrats on this project and the Malmsteen series of vids are just top notch.

  • @vanguard4065
    @vanguard4065 5 лет назад +1

    The Intense Rock intro solo was absolutely mindblowing when I first saw and heard it. I bought it on VHS mid 90's and I couldn't believe what I was witnessing. It hasn't quite been matched after all these years aside from the many remarkable and astounding musical and guitaristic achievements to date.

  • @RoccoPezzin
    @RoccoPezzin 9 лет назад +18

    yess I was waiting for the Gilbert one! another GREAT video man!!

  • @JDESTR0Y
    @JDESTR0Y 8 лет назад +1

    I can sit here drinking my morning coffee forever watching your videos man! Insanely informative, and really helping me tighten the screws. Thanks!

  • @dimevh84
    @dimevh84 9 лет назад +8

    Another amazing lesson Troy, it truly amazes me how you've deciphered all these minimal movements and nuances, however i have to admit i felt confused after watching this, i guess its because we haven't had the episodes tackling upward/2 way pick slanting!

    • @dimevh84
      @dimevh84 9 лет назад +2

      Scratch that, bought the antigravity package today as an early christmas present to myself ;) everything makes total sense now. The level of detail is immense, it really is stunning, seriously worth the $70

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  9 лет назад +3

      si dog Thanks for picking up Antigravity! If you have any questions as you dig through, feel free to get in touch.

    • @dimevh84
      @dimevh84 9 лет назад +2

      ***** Thanks Troy, there is a lot to wrap your head around here, but everything you need is there and although i haven't watched the whole thing yet a lot of my questions have already been answered. Awesome stuff man!

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  9 лет назад +3

      si dog Fantastic!

  • @paulmazzola1598
    @paulmazzola1598 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks Troy! I recently discovered your videos (through Ben Eller) and I'm most impressed with your attention to detail on your pick slanting concept. It works immediately and most importantly feels right. That's the hallmark of a great technique, IMO.

  • @kermheat
    @kermheat 9 лет назад +1

    When you just watch this video, you become better !! Thanks Troy !!!

  • @derrylgabel
    @derrylgabel 9 лет назад +7

    Excellent video Troy. I always did the famous PG lick using inside picking and realized one day that he was actually using outside picking. It's taken a lot of work for me to do that using OS picking and it still feels strange.

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  9 лет назад +2

      Derryl Gabel Amazing. Marshall Harrison does it this way as well. But starting on a downstroke. He sweeps the first string change, just once, to flip the picking. You guys are machines!

    • @derrylgabel
      @derrylgabel 9 лет назад

      *****
      Yeah, that's exactly how I do it.

    • @TheN00bPolice
      @TheN00bPolice 9 лет назад +1

      Derryl Gabel why not just start on an upstroke in that case?

    • @512banana1
      @512banana1 6 лет назад

      same here man, i thought IS is easier lol i can never get that fast with OS

  • @claudiocorrea7899
    @claudiocorrea7899 5 лет назад

    Dude it´s amazing, when i was child i always practise "my own" inside picking lines, with no idea of the concept, i just alternate the pick... and now viewing this i got the sixes!. I follow your channel for three years ago and also I mastered the basic fives of EJ with downward pickslanting.
    I wiewed this video but my anxiety and bad english listening delayed the process. Now i wait for buy some seminars

  • @zackscruggs4543
    @zackscruggs4543 9 лет назад +3

    Your like a guitar scientist. I love this stuff!

  • @MostLikelyMortal
    @MostLikelyMortal 9 лет назад

    My guitar tutor has condoned inside picking before, and I have always unconsciously avoided them since. Definitely puts my playing strategy in another light and gives me something to practice now

  • @jonnylivin
    @jonnylivin 9 лет назад

    Troy, I have learned so much in such a short period of time from your videos.
    Really changed my picking style without force. You really cracked the codes in your videos. Keep it up. You're giving away all the magicians' secrets. Thank you.

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  9 лет назад +2

      I do not recommend sawing ladies in half, or stuffing rabbits in your shirt. That is cruel and unusual. But so is practicing scales for hours with no results. Hopefully we can change some of that. Thanks for watching!

  • @ryan.1357
    @ryan.1357 9 лет назад +3

    I just noticed that this whole seminar is now available for 70 bucks. So, as I wait for Episode 3 to be released, you release some of these Antigravity "chapters" as a little taste of what I could have, right now. Troy, you would make an excellent heroin dealer (or sales person, whichever you prefer).

    • @ryan.1357
      @ryan.1357 9 лет назад +3

      Dude, to follow up on this: I'm currently watching chapter 12. This is literally the best technical guitar instruction I have ever seen in my life. And I'm old. They should invent a new notation for all guitar instruction that shows, exactly, where you should rotate with each pick stroke. I can't stress enough how revolutionary this is. We all do it without really knowing it, and yet no one (that I've EVER seen) has explained it. But now that you are explaining to me what I am in fact doing, I can focus on it, and (literally) immediately improve on it since I know what to look for. Simply amazing.

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  9 лет назад

      Nano B The only drug I stock in quantity this time of year Advil Cold and Sinus! Re: notation, it's something we've thought about, but honestly, as you now know, there are so many ways to play even a simple six note scale fragment that it's not really worth notating any of them as 'correct', and if you watch something like the Moore Minimal Pickslant clip in the download pack, you'd be hard pressed to identify which strategy I'm using -- primary up? Neutral, maybe? Thanks for picking up Antigravity!

  • @theconspiracyofnoize5984
    @theconspiracyofnoize5984 3 года назад

    Yes definitely wish Paul would come your channel that would be a must see event

  • @Dreamdancer11
    @Dreamdancer11 9 лет назад

    Great video.If you throw economy picking into the mix instead of strict alternate, that makes things even more straightforward for the inside and outside picking motions.

  • @aeksinsang932
    @aeksinsang932 5 лет назад

    This is incredible Troy. That video used to frustrate me as I tried Gambale methods towards it- which isn’t efficient based on note groupings per string of Paul’s approach

  • @rockblack666
    @rockblack666 9 лет назад +1

    Thaaanks for this video! Im a fan of your work and dedication for the music. Keep doing this, I think it's the best guitar channel in youtube. Greetings from Chile

    • @zagStygian
      @zagStygian 9 лет назад

      I second this salutation, Mr. Troy. Also from Chile, big fan of your work. Cracking the Code is a masterpiece.

  • @raxlyy6416
    @raxlyy6416 7 лет назад

    the lesson I've been looking for a year.thank you

  • @otakurocklee
    @otakurocklee 9 лет назад

    Super video... all guitarists should watch this... get past the inside/outside picking mantra.

  • @TheMikebledsoe92
    @TheMikebledsoe92 9 лет назад

    When one is doing something they don't think about it; they just do it. They might not be able to tell others how or what they've just done but others like Troy can. Troy breakdown Jimi's picking. What I've learned from Troy's videos is what ever you do make it musical. Nice video Again, Troy.

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  9 лет назад

      Mike Bledsoe It's true, the great athletes do what they do by feel. Fascinating subject. Thanks for watching!

  • @MICKEYISLOWD
    @MICKEYISLOWD 8 лет назад

    I used to suffer the problem of inside picking feeling much more difficult. Until that was I practiced the Vinnie Moore chromatic practice regime. I used to start with down-strokes and follow his patterns and then I reversed and started the same with upstrokes! This enabled me to identify when exactly I was feeling tension and difficulty in the muscles and also the indecisive tendencies. Simply put I practiced sequences that involved inside picking 10 times more than what felt far easier which was outside picking. I then applied this to all the other licks I had previously learned including a bunch of Gilberts Hot Licks videos ect...
    It's all about muscle memory... and so as your brain is a learning Neural network system you must practice much more what feels 10 times harder so this way your brain will strengthen these pathways in yer brain. With diligent and intentional practice you will soon find 'outside' picking just as easy as 'inside' to the point where it really doesn't matter what direction of the pick the' lick or sequence' you're playing is asking you to do.
    Economy picking solves many of these problems in a different way and makes flying through scales a breeze in comparison as you eliminate 1/3 of the motion or direction changes with the right hand however the attacking and aggressive technique of Alternate picking is just awesome to ignore.

  • @fightingbull8439
    @fightingbull8439 8 лет назад +1

    The science of Picking , Awesome clip..

  • @RonSavage01
    @RonSavage01 9 лет назад +5

    I LOVE your vids man. I've seen all of them....some of them 6 or 7 times. I wish you'd do a little more instruction though and spent less time making the videos so well produced. I guess that's partly why I've seen them all...some repeatedly. They are much easier to watch than your typical lesson videos. You changed the way I think about and do alternate picking.
    But there's a couple ideas you touch on and then move on and I still haven't figured them out.
    Off the top of my head. .....the double park example from the Yngwie video.......can you expand on that or give a short tab example showing which note to acent???????

  • @thepoozer
    @thepoozer 8 лет назад +32

    I've asked before, Troy, do you ever address fretting-hand technique?

    • @ubershredder1989
      @ubershredder1989 7 лет назад +5

      Thats a very good point. No matter how good your picking is, you will only be able to play half of CTC stuff if your fretting hand isn't on form.

    • @naegleriafowleri76
      @naegleriafowleri76 7 лет назад +8

      there is a reason why he doesn't address the left hand, why? simple, there are no secrets for the left hand, is all HARD ASS FUCKING WORK, you have to put in the thousands and thousands of hours to develop the CHOPS, no secrets, just common sense, muting unwanted string noise with fingertips, clean and slow. The picking hand, on the other hand, can be quickly fixed in a matter of weeks. Your right hand will be faster than the left.

    • @dhruvalance1323
      @dhruvalance1323 7 лет назад +5

      That is logical but it's not true, all experienced guitar players know that your right hand leads the brain coordination between the two hands, so as soon as you learn to pick in a fast/relax manner and do smooth string changes with your right hand, your left hand will behave as if you had workout for millions of years more so to speak. Of course you need to have your left hand fit, but it is not as it appears.

    • @interestingthings8598
      @interestingthings8598 7 лет назад +2

      Dhruva Lance what kind of proof do you have for it? Your fretting hand is another group of muscles that you have to train. I've seen lots of people saying that the fretting hand is even more difficult to train.

    • @fernandomoreno7753
      @fernandomoreno7753 7 лет назад +4

      Dhruva Lance thats not true for me at all. Most of my problems are my left hand.

  • @71GA
    @71GA 7 лет назад

    I found myself in the wideo about M. Angelo Batio... I finaly found that this is the way I am doing it most of the time and now it will be easier to go on.

  • @hernannieto1
    @hernannieto1 5 лет назад

    Dude you make awesome vids... really helpful. Ive been playing (legatoish) jazz for years and I realized I had to get better at picking just 1 year ago, and Ive been watching all of your material jeje. Keep it coming ! Cheers

  • @conartist267
    @conartist267 6 лет назад

    My picking is quite different. I don’t pick slant at all but I clear the strings and I’m almost as fast as you guys. I don’t even tilt my pick cos I like a cleaner fatter tone. I do admire your technical take on this and your camera work.

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  6 лет назад +2

      See, there's the trick - everyone picks on an angle. It's not possible to clear the strings otherwise. Unless you can phase through matter like Vision in the Avengers! The trick, which I will admit we didn't really know when we filmed this video, is that you can do this with little to no arm involvement at all, and the visible "slant" of the pick is not necessary either. But make no mistake, the pick still travels at an angled pathway to escape the strings, or it hits there. You can't cheat the physics.

  • @ozzy9691
    @ozzy9691 8 лет назад +1

    Troy, can you do a video on licks that involve a crazy amount of string changes back and fourth, and therefore a lot of two way pickslanting? For example, the intro riff in technical difficulties? That riff kills me.

  • @gormaz13
    @gormaz13 9 лет назад

    i just recently realize this a few days ago watching some of Pauls instructional videos that to master alternate picking one must be able to be comfortable starting either with a downstroke or and upstroke just to get used to the different types of picking motions of inside and outside picking. Paul is more used to outside picking perhaps because when he started playing he just used upstrokes for everything (chords ,licks,etc), i guess that the only way to feel more comfortable between string changes is just to practice both ways (starting with upstrokes and starting with downstrokes).

  • @martinnobody9808
    @martinnobody9808 9 лет назад

    Agreed si dog, your not alone bro. I need to go back and study. Inside outside etc etc.

    • @dimevh84
      @dimevh84 9 лет назад

      Yea i didn't really mean i was confused about inside and outside picking, but more how to apply the upward/2 way pick slanting, which hasn't been covered in the cracking the code episodes yet, tbh I'm thinking of buying the antigravity course after watching these lessons.

  • @Warlock73
    @Warlock73 7 лет назад

    Great video! I'm barely an intermediate player, but strangely inside picking is a little easier; it seems to require less motion, at least for some licks. For example, play 12, 15 then 12 on the B, then go 12 E, 12 B, 14 E, 12 B, 15 E, 12B, 14 E, 12 B, 12 E, 15 B, 12 B. It's (almost) a one note per string kind of thing, but seems easier to start with an upstroke and use inside picking. Sorry if this didn't make sense!! It's part of a solo from Andy LaRoque.

  • @severalpaperclips
    @severalpaperclips 9 лет назад +1

    8:12 sums up the reason why the flood of instructional tapes in the 80s and 90s turned so few of the people who bought them into monster alternate pickers.

  • @MimicDaravon
    @MimicDaravon 9 лет назад +2

    Troy, I love your videos. Intense Rock and Gilbert's other videos have had a huge influence on my playing, though I've never managed to match his speed. It's great to see you explore these classic videos in depth. Thanks for sharing your insight.

  • @johnmcminn9455
    @johnmcminn9455 Год назад

    I like the Vinnie Moore acsending 9, 3 nps across 3 strings . you go up play the 9th note and start over. you will Alternate the start note up or down

  • @LavamanMusic
    @LavamanMusic 9 лет назад

    Fantastic again, thank you! Your observations have truly inspired me and i wish i had more of an insight into pick slanting years ago.

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  9 лет назад +1

      Lava Man Me too! Thanks for watching.

  • @shtfuk668
    @shtfuk668 8 лет назад +63

    This Troy Grady guy, I mean i can't do that. I threw my guitar out after watching him. I mean i may as well use it as a coffee table.

    • @brandon9271
      @brandon9271 8 лет назад +12

      as much as I wish I could do this i have to remind myself that most of my favorite guitarist don't play like this. Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Slash, Brian May and countless other phenomenal players didn't shred. I do wish I could nail some of my favorite Satch tunes or Marty Friedman solos but meh.. Life goes on :)

    • @richiechandler7443
      @richiechandler7443 8 лет назад +2

      +brando92711 Brian May has alot of feeling in his playing.

    • @bassheadjazz2708
      @bassheadjazz2708 8 лет назад +4

      guitar players have this "ghost of shredders past" stigma to overcome when it comes to shredding and technicality, I think it's a great tool to have but most great musicians don't use speed for everything. I love speed and technicality as much as the next guy, but groove and tone are easily as important. You can find nasty shredders that are still in high school, but soulful or musical guitarists that have developed as a complete musician are hard to find.
      case in point, I'm here watching Troy's channel for the technicality and speed, but his tone and time are on point. He would sound good playing a James Brown rhythm part.

    • @brandon9271
      @brandon9271 8 лет назад +6

      I agree that feeling,phrasing and melody, etc are more important than speed. Plus, look at the most popular guitarists. The ones that had mass appeal to everyone, not just to guitar nerds. Almost none of them are shredders. What's the point of practicing hours a day only to be appreciated by a niche audience. I'd rather work on theory and composition vs technique. Write melodies that move people. It doesn't have to be fast

    • @anthem3560
      @anthem3560 7 лет назад +2

      its all about the song

  • @FernieMac
    @FernieMac 3 года назад

    love your content, you deserve more subs

  • @freddylive4181
    @freddylive4181 2 года назад

    .. Thank You Troy.

  • @xblackb0x
    @xblackb0x 8 лет назад

    thank you for all your video's! You really helped me alot. I always used stringhopping to change between strings. U saved me from alot of confusion! I don't know If I would have this out by myself. Thanks again!

  • @thomasdivito6221
    @thomasdivito6221 7 лет назад

    This video is pointing my major difficulty.
    I felt strange, that I could play incredibly fast two way pick slanting licks with no effort, but couldn't play some others properly and consistantlty.
    I think I'm vastly more used to switch to an higher string after a down stroke, and switch to a lower string after an up stroke, due to the gilbert lick (Actually, for me, it was the MAB Speed Kills's exercise 1, basicaly the same picking difficulty)
    The mistake I've done when I was younger was to only practice this lick as an outside picking exercise, instead of working on both approaches. I was'nt really aware of all that stuff. This led me to some inconfort while facing some licks containing inside string changes. Also building a barrier to alternate picking arpeggios.
    I really need to solve this and work on it. This is kinda holy grail to me, that will push the limit far beyond
    I remember about 10 years ago, I was watching a video of a man playing the Freight Solo on a Washburn. I was blown.
    It was you Troy, but I didn't know at that time.
    Thanks for all your work, take care

  • @DamianS1893
    @DamianS1893 5 лет назад

    I definitely appreciate your analysis and videos

  • @IPushHard
    @IPushHard 6 лет назад

    Absolutely brilliant. I watched all the "Cracking the code" videos and ended up here.
    Exactly where you intended.
    But please hear me out?
    I have no intention of ever being a shredder. All I want to do is pick cleaner and smoother through the non-metal stuff that I do.
    You are an amazing player.
    You are a really smart guy with a great sense of marketing.
    But, my sense of music hasn't been addressed here.
    To tell you where I'm coming from? Of all the players you focused in all the series.. the only player I aspire to learn from is Ritchie Blackmore.
    Why? Because everything that came after (except Eddie) was just another wrinkle of him.
    Thanks

  • @johnmcminn9455
    @johnmcminn9455 2 года назад

    On Speed Kills 1 Batio goes 7 notes, in a 3 string group ing.
    6 notes, 3 notes per string descending, then the last note on the next string is "inside picking"

  • @supertzar
    @supertzar 9 лет назад

    i know you seem to be a technical shredder teacher but it would be awesome if youd do videos like these on rock guys like mike bloomfield, jeff beck, rory gallagher and roy buchanan. guys like that. id be really interested in learning their techniques and things. you do the best lessons ive seen and i know we could learn alot from videos of guys like this. if this is offensive or a foolish statement/request in your opinion i apologize. just an idea from a fan who loves your vids.

  • @aaronbergAPB
    @aaronbergAPB 7 лет назад

    Nice show. Interesting how even more tech' guitar can be thought of.

  • @ThrashRoC
    @ThrashRoC 2 года назад

    This is a DAMM FREAKY , DAMM INTRESTING Guitar Channel !!

  • @Kidnapper89
    @Kidnapper89 9 лет назад +1

    As enlightening as it all is, I still have one problem with learning this: whats the best place to start?
    Would you recomend "mastering" the two string PG lick first, then something on three, then four strings etc?
    Also I am so very curious if you'll ever pick up on some incredible Jason Becker playing?
    Cheers and thanks for saving my sanity already!
    John

  • @cactusjackthedesertrat5601
    @cactusjackthedesertrat5601 3 года назад

    Great video thank you brother

  • @pabloadolfolopezalegria7390
    @pabloadolfolopezalegria7390 8 лет назад +1

    i think that run is affordable because its repeat a string before to change to other string, for me is very dificoult when the run is 3 notes per string

  • @msstroh
    @msstroh 2 года назад

    I appreciate the articulation. And because your a Paul guy, you already play no faster than you can pick.

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  2 года назад

      To be honest, most of the simple phrases we do in our picking motion tutorials - scale patterns and stuff - they're not really the kind of things that get sloppier as you get faster. This is especially true of licks which have an even number of notes per string, like Yngwie-style phrases. You can play those lines as fast as you can pick and they stay clean. Most of the time when you hear fast sloppy playing, it's because the player hasn't really figured out how to be clean at * any * fast speed.

  • @Nymblz
    @Nymblz 9 лет назад

    Interesting.. that inverted 12-13-15 to 12 on the next string exercise came totally natural to me, I've done that riff for years.. I didn't even know Paul Gilbert had that as a trademark riff. Admittedly I don't do it as cleanly as I'd like, I still get some random string noise when I go to the higher string. (I think I've got a bit of a pull-off on the 3rd note going on).
    Still, I feel as, if not more, comfortable with inside picking than outside, I just started doing two note exercises on two separate strings (adjacent but also with string skipping), with a metronome and worked at it.

  • @deasnutz4ever
    @deasnutz4ever 5 лет назад

    I didn’t know I was doing the whole pick slanting thing until these videos, it’s just a natural motion I learned using metronome training.

  • @RonSavage01
    @RonSavage01 9 лет назад

    Greetings from Nashville TN by the way!

  • @srdjanbosnjak7413
    @srdjanbosnjak7413 9 лет назад

    That Cornford Hellcat you are using .............transient punch,sustain and beef,all at the
    same time.Monstrous.

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  9 лет назад

      Srdjan Bošnjak Great amp!

  • @paulkielt9301
    @paulkielt9301 5 лет назад

    Over the years I moved to inside picking, because it requests less effort and allows to play even faster. Of course, I don't banish outside picking, but for some licks it's just inappropriate. But I agree inside picking requires more accuracy and practice to get it natural without even thinking about it.

  • @jacksguitarplanet
    @jacksguitarplanet 9 лет назад +2

    Hey Troy! I seem to be more comfortable playing this lick on the 2 middle strings. It seems harder on the 2 highest strings and the 2 lowest strings. The middle strings seem to be a "sweet spot" for my picking hand. Any thoughts?
    Btw, thanks for the lessons!

  • @davidpaz7011
    @davidpaz7011 9 лет назад +1

    Please do a video with Conrad Simon!

  • @RotterStudios
    @RotterStudios 5 лет назад

    Great video as always

  • @pleaseu2nite
    @pleaseu2nite 9 лет назад +1

    What kind of picking exercise would you recommend for building up speed and syncing up both hands

  • @TheJoeWentzProjectTV
    @TheJoeWentzProjectTV 9 лет назад +4

    Damn.....I wish I could play like that!! I'll just stick to my legato stuff. Every time I try pick fast across the strings, it sounds like crap.

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  9 лет назад +9

      Joe Wentz Don't hang it up just yet! Take a look at Cracking the Code, our show. Particularly, Season 2.

    • @StealerChart
      @StealerChart 9 лет назад

      you and me both man but if you like your playing then just stick with it

    • @These_go_to_eleven_1959
      @These_go_to_eleven_1959 9 лет назад +5

      +Joe Wentz Same here! I found out it is because all these awesome players had to make a deal with the devil like robert johnson did many years ago.
      That is why you will never see/hear a outstanding christian guitarist.

    • @moonwoofmars
      @moonwoofmars 7 лет назад

      It's my understanding that legato stuff lends itself to shredding,so you might be closer than you think to playing better,Keep on rockin bro!

    • @infinitesentient3545
      @infinitesentient3545 6 лет назад

      I've been economy picking and using legato for over 20 years and I'm trying to retrain myself to alternate pick at 45. Do what makes you happy but if you're young, remember not to cheat yourself. At this rate, I may have it down by the time arthritis forces me to stop playing, lol. Good luck

  • @swardmusic
    @swardmusic 9 лет назад

    Troy is my God

  • @stepitupandgo67
    @stepitupandgo67 9 лет назад

    inside picking seems trickier to me,...so that's what I have to work on...I am swiping pretty hard in the paul gilbert lick when inside and down picking the high e string,(after an upstroke on the b string) and then descending back, (up picking the b string again after down picking the e)..I don't feel I have to jump any strings outside picking...and, when inside picking,..I'm getting a little twang,..having to hit it a little harder on the e.....need to work on getting the same dynamic outside picking as inside..I guess you have already belabored this point,..but for me the descending sixes lick is easy..because you only have to inside pick one stroke at a time.....but the 4 note gilbert lick where you do 3 on one string and hit the 4th note down picking the string farthest from you after just up picking a string closer to you,..and then to start the sequence over by up picking a string closer to you,...that is the most difficult move you can to over 2 strings....for me...(but then there's the steve morse arpeggios which use only that difficult move for every string change, every pick stroke!!!!!)...learning that pick slanting helps out with that is a revelation....since I'm just starting doing it in earnest,..my pick slanting is a little late,..but it already feels right...that I'm getting more speed and less getting caught in the strings...and that is inspiring..!!!...I wish troy would have figured this out a long time ago...hehe....

  • @michaelhamiltonberry6536
    @michaelhamiltonberry6536 9 лет назад

    this stuff is good for people who don't feel what they play...if you are feeling it , you don't care about all this

  • @Slears
    @Slears 9 лет назад

    holy..dude..you got some nice skills..great channel Sir

  • @stringbenderbb
    @stringbenderbb 9 лет назад

    I have 2 questions: I started playing 25 years ago using a bastardized version of trail picking , After heavily practicing alternate picking for years, I discovered Troys site and it was a quantum leap for my picking. Continued practicing, being aware of pickslanting,, holding the pick the "correct way". Nevertheless I was not satisfied (not consistent, too much work to maintain). I tried economy picking, which has his value but does not work well on acoustic guitars and I had articulation problems especially when not warmed up completely (play scarified using economy picking....its no fun).
    Inspired by Shawn Lanes incredible technique I tried Trail Picking again (without the mistakes i did in my youth like bending the tumb joint).
    1. QuestionI am approximately 40% faster, inside and outside picking are a breeze, with a little preference for inside. I can pick the paul gilbert lick inside or outside in the original speed without even warming up (there are other shortcomings though..
    I believe this way the change between upward/downward pickslanting is integrated in picking motion itself (think rotation). Whats your opinion on this?.
    2. Question: What astonished me the most was: I did not utilize this motor patterns for 20 years.but it worked immidiately with high precision and consistency. Much better than I practised heavily for years, especially the maintenance easy. I do practise this way like 15 minutes a day for maintenace.
    Is it the age (40) preventing building new motor patterns?

  • @aimfuldrifter
    @aimfuldrifter 8 лет назад

    Pretty good lesson.

  • @warhammer265
    @warhammer265 9 лет назад

    not sure why, but if i try the descending sixs pattern or pretty much any descending thing starting with an upstroke i just wind up fighting the strings and picking awkwardly... kind of a pain in the ass, i use some pick slanting but i guess i'm not doing it quite right... i saw someone mention "inside-outside" witch hunts or something like that in the comments below, looks like im still hunting for now haha still, great video troy

  • @nickv.7181
    @nickv.7181 8 лет назад +2

    Hey Troy just curious.....what picks do you prefer?

    • @tysonhatch
      @tysonhatch 7 лет назад +1

      Nick Venables - Dunlop Jazz III tortex.

  • @sundu21
    @sundu21 9 лет назад

    awesome info.

  • @MsDavo123
    @MsDavo123 6 лет назад

    Hey mr we should take this outside picking discussion outside😡😡😡😡
    All my life i have done inside picking and never felt trapped in "the prison of strings"!

  • @gawain6645
    @gawain6645 6 лет назад

    I like the position of Paul's left hand thumb when playing this
    It's like playing while flipping off critical people too much concerned about orthodox rules

  • @babackd.6485
    @babackd.6485 6 лет назад

    Nice, thanks

  • @malamute8257
    @malamute8257 4 года назад

    I just realized I have been doing the reverse of this lick ascending, idk why I never thought to reverse it

  • @techniqueswithtodd
    @techniqueswithtodd 9 лет назад

    Very good vid. Keep it up!!!!!!

  • @bluematrix5001
    @bluematrix5001 6 лет назад

    is Outside pick essentially to pick the string the first time as a down stroke??

  • @dsvet
    @dsvet 7 лет назад

    Troy, thank you for the lessons. Are you an Electrical/Mechanical Engineer by any chance?

  • @archkarr18
    @archkarr18 5 лет назад

    Hey Troy..wouldn't you like to breakdown Andy James technique?..(get him on there)...i assume you probably know about him,but if you dont,check him out. The emperor of the pentatonic scale. (Always starting with upstroke on pentatonic)

  • @AngelRiveroMusic
    @AngelRiveroMusic 8 лет назад

    i see that this is in 4/4 becase each group of 6 notes make 1/4, so having 4 of this group make a complete bar in 4/4 but when adding the extra 3 notes to flip the lick from outside to inside picking, does the time signature change to 9/8? because i can feel that the acentuated note is always the same

  • @Nemoawnz
    @Nemoawnz Год назад

    I've always used inside picking and I'm just now finding this to be a more advanced technique. Kinda strange to me, and I honestly feel like I'm missing something. I don't really do outside picking very well.

  • @EBP_rehab_performance
    @EBP_rehab_performance 9 лет назад

    Awesome video Troy! Do you give online lessons?

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  9 лет назад

      Not traditionally -- the seminars were really our way of doing that. But there has been a fair number of requests for extra help with the Antigravity material so we might do a few one offs just to understand the sticking points better. If that's the case we'll send a note via our mailing list. Thanks for watching!

  • @RipTheJackR
    @RipTheJackR 9 лет назад +3

    Troy Grady is a younger, thinner Sean Hannity I figured :) Good vid.

    • @severalpaperclips
      @severalpaperclips 9 лет назад +3

      RipTheJackR LOL. That's so cruel. But there's at least one major difference: Troy says things that are worth listening to. ;-)

    • @punkiller666
      @punkiller666 4 года назад

      Well, Malmsteen never did show his birth certificate

  • @frankie.d1127
    @frankie.d1127 9 лет назад +1

    Troy- are those standard Jazz 3 black stiffo picks you're using??

  • @calebsj
    @calebsj 9 лет назад

    that 3 note "paul gilbert" lick is a bear for me! if you can guarantee me you can teach me to play that ill sign up! (i can play the desending 6's lick)

  • @geraldgopaul2043
    @geraldgopaul2043 6 лет назад +3

    0:04 Technical Difficulties anybody?

  • @andrewconley4460
    @andrewconley4460 5 лет назад +1

    Troy seems equal parts guitar god and math tutor.

  • @guitarreilly
    @guitarreilly 9 лет назад +4

    TROY!! i cant get it! ive tried everything and i still catch the string when string hopping no matter how slow or fast i practise its so depressing can u suggest anything?

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  9 лет назад +3

      Jack Reilly Hi Jack! Starting with one-way pickslanting is really the way to go here. Paul's stuff is two-way, and we will cover it in a future episode of the show, but it's much more finicky to get it right than Yngwie- and EJ-style licks where the pickslant never changes. Note that this is not a value-judgement. There are things you can do with one-way pickslanting that sound every bit as amazing as guitar playing can sound, and that really can't be done any other way.

    • @guitarreilly
      @guitarreilly 9 лет назад +1

      ***** hey troy i posted a comment on another vid the other day just say that that ive finally understood the downward pick slanting angle and its literally a miracle i can suddenly string hop! just would like say how grateful i am mate, i was so down and depressed about the whole thing but this revelation has changed my firkin life man. i feel like i owe you money or something. its the biggest short cut ive ever had playing guitar and can only imagine the stress you mustve gone through to find all this out. anyway cheers mate subscribing right now

    • @ghostfive7119
      @ghostfive7119 9 лет назад

      practice more man you'll get it just with practice, hours of it too it won't come over night it takes months sometimes years to get the technique down and playing fast isn't everything to be successful you gotta do what works for you sometimes simplicity is key

    • @MICKSHRED
      @MICKSHRED 9 лет назад +1

      @jack dont worry, just keep at it, trust me it will pay off. over time, your hands will naturally develop your technique. even though my picking technique is almost mastered Troy's channel is what any aspiring shred player needs to grasp the fundamentals. i wish i had this 15 years ago when i first started.

  • @adrieldiaz80
    @adrieldiaz80 8 лет назад

    Troy, are you mostly in to fast playing?

  • @5urg3x
    @5urg3x 7 лет назад

    What bridge is on that mustang? Are those the original saddles?

  • @vinimachadogt
    @vinimachadogt Год назад

    7:31 outside
    8:38 inside

  • @SomeDudeOnline
    @SomeDudeOnline 9 лет назад

    Here's a fun exercise. Play the pepsi lick about halfway through then switch over to Paul's descending sixes (without pause of course).

  • @josharmoogam6696
    @josharmoogam6696 8 лет назад

    I Love The Metal!

  • @akaalgaming9537
    @akaalgaming9537 4 года назад

    Is there a video to improve the speed on my fretting hand? I can currently only play 16th notes around 90 BPM to sound decent ?

  • @Henry-fv3bc
    @Henry-fv3bc Год назад

    So given that inside picking is not the problem and that it is simply the time-reversed version of outside picking, then why is inside picking with 2WPS perceived as harder than outside picking with 2WPS? Is it harder (for the average guitarist)?

    • @troygrady
      @troygrady  Год назад +1

      I don't think it is universally perceived as harder. In our interviews with Martin Miller and Teemu Mäntysaari, they were both more confortable with the inside versions of certain phrases. They probably learned those phrases that way early on and became comfortable with them - i.e. training and habit.

    • @Henry-fv3bc
      @Henry-fv3bc Год назад

      ​​​@@troygradyit's certainly not universally perceived as harder, but a lot of people find it harder - there is a reason that this "misconception" arose after all
      I've been playing around with it myself, and I've decided to just avoid inside picking on pickslant changes entirely - either by starting on an upstroke or using legato, in the same way that a pure USX player would use legato to set up an upstroke string change.
      The worst offender is the surprisingly common (given how hard it can be to pick) pentatonic threes pattern. On descending, I start on a downstroke, and I use a primary downward pickslant with a brief forearm rotation to UWPS to catch the single note on the higher string. This gives pure outside picking. On ascending, I start on an upstroke (or offset the pattern) and use a primary upward pickslant with brief forearm rotations to DWPS, again outside picking only.
      I cannot figure out a way to play the same pattern with inside picking that is as easy and reliable. Especially on the ascent. I've tried different motions, but it's too hard. I find myself having to rotate my forearm much more for some reason. The main problem is that the simultaneous upstroke and rotation to back to DWPS tends to miss the string.
      It's probably because of an asymmetry in my technique that would require the magnet to analyse. But I'll save that for the future. Avoiding inside picking (on pickslant changes) is much easier for now, and I can still pick every note in most patterns.