Very nice, especially since it's getting harder and harder to find replacement Amiga-compatible drives. Does this method also allow the reading and writing of MS-DOS disks or just Amiga ones?
You can read and write DD (720k) MS-Dos disks only, like on every Amiga diskdrive, if you install the necessary drivers. No way to read 1.44 (HD) drives without a special controller (like Catweazle) or an Amiga HD-Drive, as Paula does not support the doubled datarate PC-Diskdrives use. Amiga HD-diskdrives use only half rotation speed if HD-drive is inserted.
Nice... I have the internal version or a version like yours for internal use. Depends on what and how you see it. 😉 And it works great. I bought mine from Greece and it is a cheap solution. Only downside, is that I had to cut on the top-shield of the drive and I needed to buy a 3D printed eject button. Else it works exactly as an original drive. Though I have to use a piece of tape on 1.44 disks, because the drive it self will still think it is a HD disk. And a machine thinking that it is a DD disk and the drive thinking it is a HD disk, really messes up read and write.
Short answer is Yes. The slightly longer and drawn out answer is - Depending on where you plan to mount this thing. IF you mean can it mount inside the machine, I will say no, not with this model as it needs to be plugged into the back of the machine to work. But if you mean, using it as boot device so you don't need the internal drive, you can do that. Depending on which kickstart you are using you can boot from an external drive without any hardware modifications by hold the mouse buttons down at power up and selecting the external disk. It would't be a DF0: but a DF1:. You can also get a rom switcher to make it an actual DF0: if you need the device number to be 0 as some games require. Yet another way would be to get an internal install version but that one needs space inside the case and I'm not sure which machine you have.
@@yaggieboat As the developer is in UK and selling to EU is practicly a hell after brexit, he decided to make everything open source on github. Basicly the adapter devirates the "Ready" signal with a standard logic chip from the other signals. If I remember correctly, it is just one IC, one capacitator (just stabalizing the power on the IC) and two resistors. Less than a dollar. You can handwire the components yourself without PCB and make your own internal cable. Actually I plan to modify one of the more modern notebook-hd-diskdrives this way (I hope to find time at Xmas). Theese drives have a 26-pin FCC connector, which is documented by RobSmith on his DrawBridge project. Same signals like every PC-Floppydrive, only less GND-lines. So a simple 26-pin FCC breakout board should do + of course the logic to generate the signals for the Amiga. I intend to modify two of theese drives for an A2000, so I can mount two diskdrives and a notebook CD-drive in the two-floppy bay, leaving the 5 1/4 bay for a Bridgeboard floppydrive. Also I want to make one (or two) external drives for my CDTVs, as theese notebook diskdrives fit under the CDTV (about 1mm missing - some extra rubber under CDTV-feets and it fits). Notebook Floppydrives are cheap - less than $20 and still available. They are sold as USB DiskDrives, but the USB-part is a seperate PCB connected with 24pin FCC cable, so you can remove it and replace it by an 24pin FCC breakout board.
The PC drive will read the same exact double sided / double density disks that an Amiga drive will read. It won’t read high density disks as a 1.44 mb but will read a high density disk if formatted as 880k Amiga format if you put tape over the second hole in the disk.
YaggieBoat I meant this: In the video you said something like „this disk is double sided“ but corrected in text „I meant double density“. I‘m just saying it‘s both double density and double sided.
what kind im mumbo jumbo ia that "you can¨t us HD disks on an amiga" the 4000 is born with a HD drive and i have a HD drive internalky in my amiga 500 its been ther since 1989 and works fine with 1.76 mb disks wich is the amiga format of HD disks
The Amiga 4000 was at the very end of Commodore and very few people had those. The bulk of the Amiga computers that were sold were double sided double density disk drives with an 880 K format.
A wonderful, admirable DESK for a vintage setup.
Damn that 1200 is clean. Very nice.
It says you're running wb3.0, ehat commodities are you using to get that minimizing gagdet on the window?
That is a WHDload image which gives it that look and feel. I have an SD card in my A1200 acting as if it were an IDE hard drive.
Very nice, especially since it's getting harder and harder to find replacement Amiga-compatible drives. Does this method also allow the reading and writing of MS-DOS disks or just Amiga ones?
I haven’t tried that. I’m guessing it won’t natively as the pc and Amiga had different file system formats.
You can read and write DD (720k) MS-Dos disks only, like on every Amiga diskdrive, if you install the necessary drivers. No way to read 1.44 (HD) drives without a special controller (like Catweazle) or an Amiga HD-Drive, as Paula does not support the doubled datarate PC-Diskdrives use. Amiga HD-diskdrives use only half rotation speed if HD-drive is inserted.
Can you please post the Ebay link for where you purchased the special cable?
Here is the seller on eBay - www.ebay.co.uk/usr/ikonsgr74?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
Nice... I have the internal version or a version like yours for internal use. Depends on what and how you see it. 😉 And it works great. I bought mine from Greece and it is a cheap solution. Only downside, is that I had to cut on the top-shield of the drive and I needed to buy a 3D printed eject button. Else it works exactly as an original drive. Though I have to use a piece of tape on 1.44 disks, because the drive it self will still think it is a HD disk. And a machine thinking that it is a DD disk and the drive thinking it is a HD disk, really messes up read and write.
Ah good to hear - Which amiga machine did you install yours in?
@@yaggieboat In my 500 rev 8a.1 and then I have one in my spare box.
Do you have running CrossDos filesystem or without?
Yea, I have used cross dos. It is fairly slow so I don’t use it much.
can this adapter be used solely as DFO? I mean only one drive to replace original in Amiga
Short answer is Yes. The slightly longer and drawn out answer is - Depending on where you plan to mount this thing. IF you mean can it mount inside the machine, I will say no, not with this model as it needs to be plugged into the back of the machine to work. But if you mean, using it as boot device so you don't need the internal drive, you can do that. Depending on which kickstart you are using you can boot from an external drive without any hardware modifications by hold the mouse buttons down at power up and selecting the external disk. It would't be a DF0: but a DF1:. You can also get a rom switcher to make it an actual DF0: if you need the device number to be 0 as some games require. Yet another way would be to get an internal install version but that one needs space inside the case and I'm not sure which machine you have.
@@yaggieboat As the developer is in UK and selling to EU is practicly a hell after brexit, he decided to make everything open source on github. Basicly the adapter devirates the "Ready" signal with a standard logic chip from the other signals. If I remember correctly, it is just one IC, one capacitator (just stabalizing the power on the IC) and two resistors. Less than a dollar. You can handwire the components yourself without PCB and make your own internal cable.
Actually I plan to modify one of the more modern notebook-hd-diskdrives this way (I hope to find time at Xmas). Theese drives have a 26-pin FCC connector, which is documented by RobSmith on his DrawBridge project. Same signals like every PC-Floppydrive, only less GND-lines. So a simple 26-pin FCC breakout board should do + of course the logic to generate the signals for the Amiga. I intend to modify two of theese drives for an A2000, so I can mount two diskdrives and a notebook CD-drive in the two-floppy bay, leaving the 5 1/4 bay for a Bridgeboard floppydrive. Also I want to make one (or two) external drives for my CDTVs, as theese notebook diskdrives fit under the CDTV (about 1mm missing - some extra rubber under CDTV-feets and it fits).
Notebook Floppydrives are cheap - less than $20 and still available. They are sold as USB DiskDrives, but the USB-part is a seperate PCB connected with 24pin FCC cable, so you can remove it and replace it by an 24pin FCC breakout board.
Can you please provide a link for the adapter
www.ebay.co.uk/usr/ikonsgr74?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
very good ...can you show the connection and how to you has realized the joints? thanks
Sure thing. I'll try to get another video together on it when I get some time.
Well, that disk is double sided, too...
Got a link to those cables?
Also, what‘s going on outside your house? :D
The PC drive will read the same exact double sided / double density disks that an Amiga drive will read. It won’t read high density disks as a 1.44 mb but will read a high density disk if formatted as 880k Amiga format if you put tape over the second hole in the disk.
Lots of noise outside my house as I am in central London on a busy street. People going by walking/driving and construction next door.
Link to cable seller - www.ebay.co.uk/usr/ikonsgr74?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
YaggieBoat I meant this: In the video you said something like „this disk is double sided“ but corrected in text „I meant double density“. I‘m just saying it‘s both double density and double sided.
Who has the adapter that link shows nothing for sale , someone needs to make some
That is where I got mine. I guess he doesn’t have any for sale right now.
Where can I buy one of these adapters??
www.ebay.co.uk/usr/ikonsgr74?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
what kind im mumbo jumbo ia that "you can¨t us HD disks on an amiga" the 4000 is born with a HD drive and i have a HD drive internalky in my amiga 500 its been ther since 1989 and works fine with 1.76 mb disks wich is the amiga format of HD disks
The Amiga 4000 was at the very end of Commodore and very few people had those. The bulk of the Amiga computers that were sold were double sided double density disk drives with an 880 K format.