Two popular tires as replacements for the DEATHWING include the Shinko 241 and the knobbier Shinko 244. Both are well made, and inexpensive. There are also other tires out there that have deeper knobs for sand pits and mud. I use a Shinko 241 because it handles as well on pavement as it does off road, and won't cause you to dump your bike on a hard, fast turn on rain slicked pavement like the DEATHWING. I use it as a 50/50 tire because the T-Dub is also my around-town grocery getter.
Inner voice says, "this Idaho single track is deadly, should we do it?" Let's do it!!! Awesome video buddy! We did some in the Sawtooths and if the bike goes over, you just gotta buy another one. No getting it back I don't think!
I lived in Washington many years before St Helens blew up, and there were some awesome single tracks in that area. At the time I had an XT 500 Yamaha. I found a trail that went up the side of the mountain. They map showed five 180 degree switch-backs. In reality, there were 33 of them. They were so tight that when going up, I would gas it a tiny bit while leaning back, lift the front wheel and pivot the front wheel to land on the next part of the trail. Going down, I would have to shut off the engine get off, and drag the front end around. I rode with 3 other guys that were sooooo much better than me, and after I scouted out that trail, we all went for a ride on that trail. I was in the rear of the pack, and every time that there was a trail junction, I would catch up to them and point out which way to go, and they were off like a shot. On the part of the trail that had all of the switch-backs, I caught up to all of them. It seems that my thumper was easier to navigate all of those tight switch-backs than their go-fast motocross bikes. I was only 35 years old at that time. I am now 76, and a trail like that would scare me to death. I have a 2022 TW 200, and I am starting to get the hang of riding on 2 wheels on single tracks again. My quad has spoiled me. I have not had any issues with my front tire washing out on me, but there are a lot of people that condemn that tire on RUclips. I very rarely coast down a trail, especially a single track. The engine will hold you back nicely, and a small amount of rear brake will slow you down all that you need to. I recently installed a disc brake on the rear tire, and after changing the pads to sintered brass, it works very well. Your engine seems to be idling very fast, maybe that it the reason that you like to try coasting. Tell us where you are riding, I live in Idaho, and I might want to go up there. There is an area south of Salmon called the Copper Basin. There is an ATV (50") that goes to some high mountain lakes. Be warned though, that this trail is VERY rocky. I have done it many times with my Polaris quad, but I have never tried it with a 2 wheeler. Nice video.
Thanks for sharing your stories! I love hearing about stuff before my time! I ride in north Idaho but I have a pretty firm "no spot burning rule" so I won't get into specifics. I've never been in the Copper Basin but I might give it a try someday! Thank you so much for watching and for the comment! I really appreciate that.
Looks like a gnarly piece of single track! Had a few close calls with the front tire on mine, looking to upgrade but have not decided yet. Have ridden the 244 on other bikes and liked it well enough, the 241 looks pretty good too.
Lucky for you the undergrowth in Idaho forest is not as thick. In Minnesota woods, the undergrowth is so thick between trees, it's hard to even hike through the woods.
Something knocking out in the mountains,....plenty of channels that cover that issue. Had a customer who was completely sure of what he saw, seemed a more than competent person and no reason to disbelieve him.
Riding single trail on the T-Dub is not really that hard. Try riding deer trails, and expect to jump over a lot of fallen logs. That's what I do the my T-Dub. You''ll get a lot of exercise dodging low tree limbs, crossing the occasional mud hole, and powering over a carpet of fallen tree limbs. Enduro bikes basically evolved from light street motorcycle designs that had engines designed to go long distances without maintenance, but modified with deep off road suspensions and knobby tires in order to make them off road capable, as opposed to a dirt bike, which was designed from the start as a pure off road machine with high performance engines that required maintenance after shorter distances. The T-Dub is a different class. It's a trail bike, designed to be used off road in all terrain except the most technical, almost as well as a dirt bike, but not designed for high speed or engine performance, and stressing simplicity and reliability. It was originally designed for agricultural service. It will get you almost anywhere, but not fast. It's good for leisurely off road touring, certainly not off road racing.
Actually have a ridge I hunt I’d like to take the tdubs down and pick up any elk quarters I have down there! I generally don’t go off trail. As I don’t want tear up the ground out there.
I love these little dual sports. I have a Kawasaki KLX300 and that thing is a blast ride up in the hills on. The nice thing is the 300 will get up to 70/75 even 80mph on the highways. So I can ride it up to my area, get fuel and refill my 3 gallon rotopax, I have enough fuel for 2 days of riding. Add the 5 C's, a light tent, sleeping bag, water filter, and food, and I have a blast! Single track can be very technical. I like to stay to ORV and quad trails.
I think it might be time to upgrade the ol' DEATHWING. Any recommendations?
Two popular tires as replacements for the DEATHWING include the Shinko 241 and the knobbier Shinko 244. Both are well made, and inexpensive. There are also other tires out there that have deeper knobs for sand pits and mud. I use a Shinko 241 because it handles as well on pavement as it does off road, and won't cause you to dump your bike on a hard, fast turn on rain slicked pavement like the DEATHWING. I use it as a 50/50 tire because the T-Dub is also my around-town grocery getter.
@DARIVSARCHITECTVS in leaning towards the 241 so I’m happy to hear that
@@dirtcopdualsport Get the tire that best suits your riding habits as far as where you ride and how often you ride there.
If you raise the front fender you can fit a 130/90 18 Pirelli MT21. I have it paired with a 25x8 12 Kenda Mastodon AT rear.
@@tahoehiker Is that tire DOT approved for roads too?
Inner voice says, "this Idaho single track is deadly, should we do it?" Let's do it!!! Awesome video buddy! We did some in the Sawtooths and if the bike goes over, you just gotta buy another one. No getting it back I don't think!
Hopefully there’s enough trees to stop the endless roll! 😂
Loved the trials and tribulations on that decent…you did a good job…enjoyed the content….🤠
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I lived in Washington many years before St Helens blew up, and there were some awesome single tracks in that area. At the time I had an XT 500 Yamaha. I found a trail that went up the side of the mountain. They map showed five 180 degree switch-backs. In reality, there were 33 of them. They were so tight that when going up, I would gas it a tiny bit while leaning back, lift the front wheel and pivot the front wheel to land on the next part of the trail. Going down, I would have to shut off the engine get off, and drag the front end around. I rode with 3 other guys that were sooooo much better than me, and after I scouted out that trail, we all went for a ride on that trail. I was in the rear of the pack, and every time that there was a trail junction, I would catch up to them and point out which way to go, and they were off like a shot. On the part of the trail that had all of the switch-backs, I caught up to all of them. It seems that my thumper was easier to navigate all of those tight switch-backs than their go-fast motocross bikes. I was only 35 years old at that time. I am now 76, and a trail like that would scare me to death. I have a 2022 TW 200, and I am starting to get the hang of riding on 2 wheels on single tracks again. My quad has spoiled me.
I have not had any issues with my front tire washing out on me, but there are a lot of people that condemn that tire on RUclips.
I very rarely coast down a trail, especially a single track. The engine will hold you back nicely, and a small amount of rear brake will slow you down all that you need to. I recently installed a disc brake on the rear tire, and after changing the pads to sintered brass, it works very well. Your engine seems to be idling very fast, maybe that it the reason that you like to try coasting.
Tell us where you are riding, I live in Idaho, and I might want to go up there. There is an area south of Salmon called the Copper Basin. There is an ATV (50") that goes to some high mountain lakes. Be warned though, that this trail is VERY rocky. I have done it many times with my Polaris quad, but I have never tried it with a 2 wheeler.
Nice video.
Thanks for sharing your stories! I love hearing about stuff before my time! I ride in north Idaho but I have a pretty firm "no spot burning rule" so I won't get into specifics. I've never been in the Copper Basin but I might give it a try someday! Thank you so much for watching and for the comment! I really appreciate that.
That one was intense! Awesome ride. You amped it up on this one. Be careful out there pard.
Thanks buddy! There were more than a few worrisome moments heading down that trail
If you heard something knocking, no you didn't 😄. That's how samsquatch gets ya
I both fear and yearn to run into squatchi on my rides!@@@
I hope he doesn't throw a tree through your spokes.
@@Skidderoperator ha! Me too!!!!
Looks like a gnarly piece of single track! Had a few close calls with the front tire on mine, looking to upgrade but have not decided yet. Have ridden the 244 on other bikes and liked it well enough, the 241 looks pretty good too.
I’m debating the 241 and the 244 too! They both look like solid performers!
@@notexpatjoe I’m gonna have a looksie at that one.
Lucky for you the undergrowth in Idaho forest is not as thick. In Minnesota woods, the undergrowth is so thick between trees, it's hard to even hike through the woods.
Im thinking you’d be surprised with how thick the under brush out here is.
@@dirtcopdualsport The wares in your video aren't that clogged with undergrowth. You should see what's behind my back yard. Bring a machete...
By making it down (alive), you challenged yourself and you are now on the right (trail) to be a better trail rider...when you want to. Awesome trail!
Thanks man!! It was hair raising but fun ride for sure!
TW is the prime candidate for Low and slow, Not fast, safe low and slow.
As someone who rides alone a lot, this is something I really appreciate about the ol tdubs.
Over 7k views. That's awesome. That was definitely a technical single track. Doubt I'd do it with a mountain bike.
It was actually a lot more fun on a mountain bike.
Great video keep up the awesome content!
Thank you so much! I’ll keep I coming! Don’t worry about that!
Looks like a lot of fun. I am getting my TW200 this week. Cannot wait to gear up and go trail riding...
Congratulations!!!! I hope you enjoy the bike and my videos!!!
Not dry enough yet.
Something knocking out in the mountains,....plenty of channels that cover that issue. Had a customer who was completely sure of what he saw, seemed a more than competent person and no reason to disbelieve him.
Lotta weird noises in the woods. Probably just a knock but still. I didn’t want to hang around there any longer.
@@dirtcopdualsport I do not blame you! Some things are better left unseen.
@@michaeldavison430I agree 100%!
If they start throwing stuff you need need to leave.
Good stuff thanks so relaxing
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“I don’t know if I’m ready for switchbacks… should I just do it? I’ll just do it.” 😂😂😂
Hahhahaha
Fun video!!
Thank you so much!!!!!
Riding single trail on the T-Dub is not really that hard. Try riding deer trails, and expect to jump over a lot of fallen logs. That's what I do the my T-Dub. You''ll get a lot of exercise dodging low tree limbs, crossing the occasional mud hole, and powering over a carpet of fallen tree limbs. Enduro bikes basically evolved from light street motorcycle designs that had engines designed to go long distances without maintenance, but modified with deep off road suspensions and knobby tires in order to make them off road capable, as opposed to a dirt bike, which was designed from the start as a pure off road machine with high performance engines that required maintenance after shorter distances. The T-Dub is a different class. It's a trail bike, designed to be used off road in all terrain except the most technical, almost as well as a dirt bike, but not designed for high speed or engine performance, and stressing simplicity and reliability. It was originally designed for agricultural service. It will get you almost anywhere, but not fast. It's good for leisurely off road touring, certainly not off road racing.
Actually have a ridge I hunt I’d like to take the tdubs down and pick up any elk quarters I have down there! I generally don’t go off trail. As I don’t want tear up the ground out there.
Use a quad
This is my speed of riding too. I'm all about enjoying the scenery and environment instead of seeing how fast I can race through it.
Same!!!! I went on a beautiful ride yesterday and really got to take n the fall scenery and had a fantastic time!
I ♥ my T-Dub.
Same! Can’t describe how much fun and exploration I’ve had since I got it.
Wood knocks & rock clack sounds= Sasquatch nearby.
My thoughts exactly!!!!!
I love these little dual sports. I have a Kawasaki KLX300 and that thing is a blast ride up in the hills on.
The nice thing is the 300 will get up to 70/75 even 80mph on the highways. So I can ride it up to my area, get fuel and refill my 3 gallon rotopax, I have enough fuel for 2 days of riding. Add the 5 C's, a light tent, sleeping bag, water filter, and food, and I have a blast!
Single track can be very technical. I like to stay to ORV and quad trails.
I mostly stick with the quad trails too but I get out on trails if I’m feeling feisty.
241
That seems to be the general consensus!
If it's duro I consider it Enduro
What u did right was ride a tw
Hell yea buddy!