90 Day Fiancé: Emily's Parents CLAP BACK When Kobe's Family Calls Her 'Property' (Exclusive)
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- Опубликовано: 14 май 2024
- In ET's exclusive first look at '90 Day Fiancé: Happily Ever After?,' Kobe's family explains to Emily's parents that in their culture, their wives are their property. Emily's family is shocked and stands up for their daughter. '90 Day Fiancé': Happily Ever After?' airs Sundays on TLC.
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They are discussing this too late. The two already married with two kids. Marriage discussion is just silly for drama plots.
Seriously 😂😂😂
In America yes but this is traditional and white people often find traditions silly when they are rooted in blackness. That is the point of this production. Do you not understand actors and what they are hired to do?
They need a story line
I'm African buh calling other woman ur property in her parents face is disrespectful 😮
Chile this is fake. When have you ever heard an African say that?
@@Yaaangel08 bathong ..how is this fake while is on TV 🧠 🧠 🧠 domkop
Amen 🙏
@@Yaaangel08 chile is not a word please grow up. I bet you call yourself African American don't you? Name one country in Africa that you know anything about ... I'll wait
That's nit disrespectful butt head. It's their CULTURE! HELLLLLO!!! That's why he should've married a sista! 💯
The guy that explained the whole thing may not have been the correct spokesperson for this topic 😂. He just made it worse.
Kobe already explained her what it is. She is tripping
I see it as producers telling him "remember to use the word property"
If the mother was hesitant before ,this guy made it worse. She is their "property". They also forget to mention what comes with the bride price. It's not just a tradition. It implies that her own family is no longer a family or a priority in her life. She is supposed to be devoted to husband's family and not hers. Mother has legit concerns
Emily’s mom has beautiful face features ❤
Yessss!!! I always notice that too! Stunning
I wanna see her younger pictures she most be beautifull 😍
Read my mind and she’s a caring mom
Meh…mid
She’s soooooo beautiful
THAT'S WHY YOU TAKE TIME AND GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER, CULTURAL DIFFERENCES, AND FAMILIES.
Yes my dear and why as a female jabe to pay for bride price not me .
Exactly
Do some research BEFORE you go to their country!! I can’t stand Emily or her mom … they are just so ignorant and outspoken and RUDE!!!!!
She’s going home with you women stop dragging it.
@ZZ-dy6xythey are so self centered people . That's why kobes friends are worried, because they just take full control over kobe 😂 Kobe has nothing to say because she still being parented. I sense some entitlement
@@droo9466Jesus is coming back. Believe He died for your sins and rose again then repent to be saved.❤😊
@@droo9466exactly!!! Her parents are just like her , I don’t now how Kobe can stand it ?? I feel bad for him… he got the wrong girl pregnant! Her mom is so stupid . She thinks she’s selling Emily .. lol - NOONE would want her !!! Lol
When the man explains it like that…. I wouldn’t want my daughter to be thought of like that. And she has to be buried in 🇨🇲???
Though his English is good, its probably not his first language and Africans are very interesting with their words but are generally good speakers of English
😅😂😅
See that American 🇺🇸 passport sir, if you want to talk about property, see what Uncle Sam does if any anything happened to Emily and kids
I didn’t like that they would be controlling where she would be buried. I wouldn’t agree with that either. The family lives in America. If she is buried outside of the US, how would her kids/family have access to the burial site whenever they want to visit it.
@@carolhenny2790 america doesnt have the same pull as you think globally. but its kinda a good point countries do treat kids as property of the state especially.
Bride price is not a purchase, it’s a material appreciation of the woman by the man’s family. She’s not property, he chose his words poorly.
No he didn’t. The sentiment was clear as day, she’s being exchanged for money in order so that she may kept in someone else’s home
Sis, I was shocked when he said Property 😂😂😂
That’s an excuse. Clearly she is bought as a house servant and sex worker. If her husband is abusive, family returns the bride price to buy her back.
He said! What he Said! Property!! 😮
Exactly they’ll hear it straight from the horses mouth but make excuses talking about word choice lol. Just say you dislike Emily’s mom it’s much faster 🤣
In Africa, bride price is simply a token paid by the grooms family to the brides family in appreciation to them for bringing up the girl till the point of marriage. After bride price has been paid by the groom, it signifies that traditionally the lady has become a wife to the man. The bride price is just one of many other traditional rites to be carried out as demanded by the culture and tradition of the people.
However, it doesn’t mean or make the bride the man’s property in literal sense. It’s an expression to mean that she is traditionally accepted into the grooms family and has automatically become one of them “their own” by the virtue of marriage based on traditional law and custom.
These conversations should have been had way before the day of the traditional wedding and clearly explained to Emily’s parents to calm their fears and address their concerns. The spokesman for the family did a terrible job conveying the message. A more fluent person in English language or an interpreter should have been used in order to bridge the communication gap. Her parents should have done their research before coming to Cameroon. Moreover, Emily and Kobe have been legally married for a couple of years with 2 kids, and that in itself is valid enough anywhere in the world. The traditional marriage is just for Emily and her family to also experience Kobe’s roots and culture, and learn what it means to be an African from Cameroon, just the same way Kobe has learnt and adapted to the American culture.
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Very well explained this is why people have to do research of different cultures religions before they jump into the unknown...like you stated he didn't explain it to well 😂😂😂😂 mama was ready to no way property 😂😂😂😂
@@HabeebahElmin exactly my point. Really tho, No parent will want to hear their daughter called property and be ok with it. Emily’s mom no wan gree for anybody 😂😂😂😂
Omg, i was in Kobe’s side until his brother ruined the explanation. Property is the worst word to use when it comes to the union of 2 cultures that have different views on women’s role in the family/society. Uffffff! 😅
Kobe's been dancing to Emily's beat since moving in America. Embracing Kobe's culture (as crazy as it may seem to some, is the least he can do. Poor wording, but traditionally, a bride would move in with the man's family and continue lineage. If she died, she would be buried in the man's village as this is where her new family would be (husband and children).
Technically, she would be an asset to the man's family as opposed to her own (as she would have left home). The man's family would benefit from her day to day contributions such as cooking/cleaning etc.
This is similar to a father giving her daughter away. She would then belong to the husband and family. She would take on his last name and all her offspring then carry the husband's last name.
They are ignorant!
The producers 100% asked this man to use the word property. In my culture bride price is paid because a daughter adds more value to the household than a son. Its also just a way to weed out all the men who arent serious about you at all and negotiating the price is a way to introduce the two families and a way for them to get to know each other in a short space of time
Exactly. They know exactly what is a bride price. They just want to portray africans as savage, like we sell human beings
@ZZ-dy6xy okay...and what does that have to do with the bride price being discussed here?
@ZZ-dy6xy fair enough but parts of Europe and America are also still selling people just the same.
@ZZ-dy6xy like in the US... human traficking exist everywhere.
Now who chose the old man as family spokesperson…. He is not very reassuring.
They should ask for a price so astronomical his family can’t pay it… problem solved.
My best friend is Ugandan his cousin was preparing to marry a woman over there her family said no to the bride price and all the gifts that they were offered. It can be very devastating when that happens over there. My best friend lives in the states as an American Citizen now and he doesn’t agree with that part of his culture he said no woman should be treated as an object or property! He said he isn’t going to have a traditional marriage where is wife is bought…. He will get married how the Americans do it lol😂
her weight in gold
If you want to use this logic, her father shouldn’t have walked her down the aisle her first wedding then because that’s her father giving over her daughter to the new husband .
Yes absolutely 💯!! I said the same damn thing!!
She’s not a property! Mom has ever right to express how uncomfortable she feels and she shouldn’t do it if she doesn’t want to even if they call in the village. They’re basically saying it my way or the highway. Well heck , take the highway.
Emily’s Dad embraced Kobe at their American wedding, gave him something priceless because he wanted to. They were so emotional and warm, compared to now being bullied into something that does not feel good. I’ve lost respect for Kobe.
And here people did not understand why her mom was upset. I also would be and I would not accept this. I hope they fight more for their daughter. This is disgusting.
They mean no offence. They're honouring emily if anything by accepting her as one of their own. It's just old fashioned traditions and it sounds bad spoken aloud but really it's not. They need understand that millions of ppl grow up in diff cultures and what's normal to some isn't to others. That's where all sides need compromise and discuss things and explain so each side understands properly.
@@Missemeka I get that, but they can't really force her to do something, because it is their tradition. If I would be in their shoes, I don't know what I would do. I would probably ask my daughter if she is 100% okay with it and if she knows what she is doing. If she says 'yes', then I would most likely go along with it, but how it is worded and we all know the background, is just...horrible.
She is making it more difficult than it has to be. Its just a formality! What do they think is going to happen??? 😂😂😂
Emily knew what she was getting into. She didn’t tell her parents of anything lol
And her mom throwing a fit .. you are NOT in your country, you are in THEIRS !!! She’s so dumb!
That's when you demand a bride price so exorbitant that it will never be met. Or simply refuse to be a part of this.
It’s actually a sign of respect. It’s not meant as an insult. I’m from Zimbabwe (I’m a white Zimbabwean, so we don’t have the same culture as a Shona) but this is their culture. It’s just rude to be so dismissive. Their traditions are extremely important to them.
Too bad she is already part of it. And her f daughter has two kids with that man
@@Kookoo347 So this only goes one way? Her culture and her parents' culture are to be dismissed but his aren't?
Hasn't she ever heard of a dowry?
I dont care what anyone says..come at me for sure but i understand where her mother has an issue. Its not because shes ignorant of the culture its because shes sensitive to it coming from america. No person should be likened to property . Black or white. This is a nuanced situation. I understand his families thoughts as well. Does noone see this?
Nope. People should stop judging other cultures through the lense of their own. I come from a culture where we pay bride price. My father told me it's because daughters are more valuable than sons. Taking a daughter out of the house, into a new family, is more of a loss to the family than taking away a son. It's also just a way for the two families to meet as in African culture, generally, it's not acceptable to introduce boyfriends and girlfriends to parents. You only introduce someone when you are engaged.
@ekg891 there is more than 1 culture coming into marriage. Doesn't mean one is more important. Also, doesn’t the same culture impy that her parents should no longer be considered her "family " and she should be devoted to her husband's family? A lot of cultures tbat do the bride price have that in one way or the other. In Kazakh culture, for example, the bride is discouraged from visiting her family often and has to ask for permission. Not everything that is traditional is great
@@TheJuiceor he did everything according to her customs in her country when they got married so it's only fair they open up to doing some of his customs in his country regarding marriage. These rules aren't strictly spied like obviously she's not expected to dedicate herself to his family. They live in the States. If it's a problem for her, she should have researched this issue before having a kid with him.
@@ekg891 depends
It is more when you want to marry the person or clearly are together for the long run
You don’t have to be engaged to introduce your partner to your parents as Africans
@@jokbok995 I guess there's over 2000 different cultures in Africa and in my culture, it's strictly forbidden to bring a boyfriend around even if you've been together for a long time. You can only do it once you've told the family you're getting married.
Things are getting lost in translation here and it’s quite frustrating.
Dude has a limited idea (if any) of what the word property encompasses.Even the term “bride price” is a clumsy translation, it’s dowry. It is symbolic of the man and his family ability to provide for the bride once she will join his household. And it’s also a sign of appreciation to her family for raising her to be a woman worthy to be part of their family unit / continue the lineage.
Well put, just to add; the women's families would not benefit from the daughters they raise. Traditionally, a woman would move in with the man and become an asset to his family. Hence, her family would be compensated.
Yes exactly! This is getting twisted into something it's not...I find it quite hilarious that Emily's mother is fine with Emily's dad "giving her away" to Kobe in an American wedding....😂...she must not get what that symbolizes
if i were that girl sitting there and heard my fiancee's familly say those words i'd RUN sooo fast
Where would she run with (by now) three kids, no job and not even a cent? There are not sooo many basements you don't have to pay! 🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
@@morgaineish how do you know she doesn’t have a cent? As for job, she can get a better job than Kobi if it wasn’t for her taking care of the kids. What do you know about her except what they showed you on TV 📺.
She should have ran before she dropped her underwear
When you was putting down your rule in your house you and your husband when Kobe come to live with you that was much harsher. This is the tradition way for these people. That’s what they grow up and believe in tradition is just a part of their culture, it’s just a part of their respect, they won’t take her from you. It’s just the terms that they use.
The mother is right. Although all these traditions are old and many times the people do not know anymore what they mean, it is a fact that I don’t like the way in Africa and countries like Thailand the husband to be have to pay before getting married. A kind of pay off
No it's a token of appreciation
Remember English is not their first language. When you speak someone’s language but they don’t speak yours it always feels like you know them more than they know you. There are certain feelings and emotions that have more depth when explained or expressed in your native language. I don’t think he meant property like that he actually meant she’s now a part of their clan, she’s family. Would have sounded a lot better in his language.
Her parents are so polite ❤ its awfull that this is still happening.
The " property" may have just be scripted for show.ln reality that is inaccurate.
What do you mean ..feels like ? SHE HAS BEEN BOUGHT AND YOU WILL LOSE ALL CONTROL THATS HOW IT IS IN THAT CULTURE
She’s not in control of her grown married daughter!!!
After three kids and taking Emily back to the States, just let them be for goodness sake.
Good God the spokesperson is SUCH a disaster with words
I am stunned in every possible way when I am looking at all of the different couples.... everything comes as a surprise for them.... why the heck don't they do a rigid research before they've got too involved??😮
They should’ve had this conversation before the married the first time 😂
This is so culturally insensitive ....YOURE IN AFRICA!!!! I'm a white woman married to a Ivorian and would never disrespect his family like this 🤢
Kobe and Emily have the cart in front of the horse. Why do this now? They already have a couple of kids.
This is silly....they are following a tradition-- just like a father walking down his daughter is "giving her away" to her soon to be husband is a common tradition in America....Yet i guess her mother doesn't see that aspect of it!! Its fine for Emily's dad to give her away to Kobe in an American wedding, yet taking a monetary donation towards her is the limit...If I was Emily I would be so upset over how her mom is acting in front of Kobes family....Cmon you are in Africa and African weddings are a Very traditional thing!! Get over yourself lady... You can say you even want a small amount of $ for a bride price and immediately after the wedding give it back to Emily/Kobe for their own children....this woman is making something way more difficult than it has to be in my opinon
YES SHE IS! SHE IS MAKING IT SOOOO DIFFICULT, LIKE GEEEZS!! LADY PLEASE HAVE SEVERAL SEATS🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
@Tubii22 she's acting bizarre in my opinion....
I find this interesting. Her parents are not racist but the writing is allowing for a Karen moment. I wont give her pity but I will celebrate her boldness as to take on this script.
Yes, I guess calling Emily a slave would’ve been better. Perhaps the Africans would understood then.
@@sookie4195 Africans have never been slaves
Every segment Kobe is in, he allows everyone to be scapegoats for him. I really hope he learns to lead and communicate for the sake of his wife and kids, but I find it so frustrating that the only people portrayed with any back bone or boldness are Emily and her mom.
Awesome parents, I like them more and more.
Honestly i dont think is fare to impose som cultures if u intent to marry outside your country,It will just bring problems.
This right here man here parents love her so much it’s awesome 👏
😂😂😂 please my dear African brother,leave this woman alone she’s not an African woman. They don’t do bride price thing please. Kobe don’t let this culture destroy your marriage.
Kobe's been dancing to Emily's beat since moving in America. Embracing Kobe's culture (as crazy as it may seem to some), is the least she can do. Poor wording, but traditionally, a bride would move in with the man's family and continue lineage. If she died, she would be buried in the man's village as this is where her new family would be (husband and children).
Technically, she would be an asset to the man's family as opposed to her own (as she would have left home). The man's family would benefit from her day to day contributions such as cooking/cleaning etc.
This is similar to a father giving her daughter away. She would then belong to the husband and family. She would take on his last name and all her offspring then carry the husband's last name.😊
It's a bit too late for him to leave her alone. They are already married with several kids.
@@InTheMourning421Several???
Am an african married to a Canadian and i really appreciate him alot because he respected my people and my culture. I dont think its means she doesnt become part of her family because her bride price was paid ...also the word Property isnt a good word ...in my country we dont call anyone Property
I have to say I like Emily more now than before she has shown so much patience and growth…
How has she grown? She, her husband and children live off of her family. Now Kobe‘s whole family is going to live off her family.
He used all the wrong words to discribe it.
Emily have never been so quiet.
Emily's parents had every right, my parents are from Cameroon a bit exaggeration from the cousin speaking. Especially stating where Emily has to be buried. TLC just has to put a lil spice and lies in to make it entertaining 🤦♀️
In African culture, if bride price or dowry is not paid it more like the bride doesn't have worth. The bride would be more like a woman who is just picked up from the side of the road. Kobe's family spokeman could have put it like its a way of appreciating her worth.
In my culture (Arab), when a husband pays the bride a dowry (on top of jewelry and other things), it is so that she can use it to buy nice things for herself a new bride. Things like dresses, a car, maybe give her family some, or spend it all on herself. It is not as a payment for the bride to be a ‘property’.
She said it herself. She's lost all the control.
That's their problem ha😮
She lost all control when she dropped her drawers in China
Talk about tradition. Kobe respected the American tradition and got married the way you guys wanted him to. He’s just asking the same of you in return. It’s not that serious lady
I am an African, our traditions are almost the same . We pay pride price in a form of respect to the woman's family to say like thanks for nurturing your daughter and making her a beautiful woman ( not property, its crazy to say that. These people always misinform ). Divorce has always been in African traditions before the bible and a woman has the right to divorce her husband. She just needs to return whatever her husband paid to her family ( drink or animal ) . Money paid to her family is not returned in most African traditions. Its mostly the drink or animal presented to the family. It's sickening when they misinform, she is never the property of her husband 😞
Omg 'property' 😮 this must be a joke
I have ben married to an Igbo man for 8 years. We skipped all this stuff. His parents died a long time ago and my husband doesn't worry bout traditional stuff he says those days are over. Tho he has said before that I'm his property😂 it didn't faze me any cos it doesn't affect our lives.
Its just traditional stuff it doesn't really affect Emily and Kobe cos they're already married with kids n are living in the US. So her mum dragging her feet is pointless. These ppl mean no offence. If anything it's honourable they're accepting Emily as their ppl.
That's why modern western culture shouldn't mix with midevil ways
*medieval.
@@shammydammy2610 oops... yeah tho
Make sure you tell your daughters
If he showed up with that ,saying she no longer belonged to the house we are taking her away and she is property to our brother. Different culture or not they would all be escorted out of my house and would not return. Some cultures are just not compatible. This arrangement wouldn't work for Portuguese people for sure.
Ok...just enjoy your visit/ vaca. You 2 already married...at this point..it is what it is.....its time to head bk to the States.....forreal...
They don't mean property as thing. The problem here is translation. Cameroon are African and they can't explain properly in English. But it's not what they actually meant
These are English speaking population of Cameroon.
I do understand where she is coming from.
Very uncomfortable 😮
What’s wrong with Emily Mother? The father is okay and the father understood what’s going on. This is their culture. This is their tradition and she know well this have to happen. They’re not taking away. Emily for their self is just part of their culture. You have to pay that price is nothing harmful..
Thats scary and evil oh my gosh
He needs translation, that is not what mehr/dowry is. My god, that African uncle couldn't explain for the life of him 😂😂😂😂
Right 😂😂😂😂 uncle was struggling
Its scripted to suite an audience playing to the camera. You know becos Kobe didnt correct him.
Buying someone as property sooo slavery??
Wow a father of Kobe called his wife property made me really uncomfortable. We are people. Not a thing! No respect for me.
Oh wow too late she is already married with three f kids. And his father can call it whatever. He doesen't live with them.
If her parents said calling her property is equivalent to calling you a slave, they might understand. The last human beings owned in the United States were slaves.
She looks like her dad that's scary
Yeah definitely not her mammy
Both sides need to be more respectful of the others culture and not take things personal
Well she's kobes wife . So they both decide for each other when one dies. It's not as crazy as she make it sound. The man is litterally the one who will sacrifice his life for his family's protection . A man won't sacrifice his life for something that isn't his
Make sure before you have kids you know your partner's culture, why are they questioning everything just now, they should just say yes to everything, accept his husband culture and go back to the USA, that is where the respect start from, understanding everyone else believes regardless the differences
Leave it to tlc to come up with more drama crap!
American wants to marry people from different countries but don’t want to respect people cultures or traditions !!!! Y’all need to find some damn Culture!!! 🙄🙄🙄
They're lucky that anyone wants Emily
Gee, just go with it. She will come with you home anyway.
I understand how Wmily parents feel. But damn is it this serious its not like you guys gonna be there the test of your life
Is she "adult" with having three kids (by now), with no jobs, neither her husband has even one, and living in the basement oh her parents and living from they money?! I don't think so!!! 🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤡 Being adult with so much children and not even earning even a cent doesn't sound ADULT to me (or other normal people)!! That's shameful!!! 🤡🤡🤡
In America Kobe is her property. FACT!!!
maybe talking about Emily's dead body pushed the parents over the top ?
Why ? When Emily mom dies her husband will make the decision where she is buried if he is alive and Kobe would do the same.
@@debjjefferson8349 if you really need to ask WHY you're in big trouble 😂
Just a wrong choice of words. It’s a form of appreciation to the parents. When I got married my “bride price” was only $168 because my mum didn’t want to make it seem like she’s “selling” her daughter
Emily is an adult livng in mommy and daddy's basement?
It's just a gimmick, just pretend like for now, then do what you wish. She's still going to the US, so why worry
Is the same in America real traditional Christian will also said the wife and children belongs to the husband so I don’t know why she so surprised she also belong to her husband and that does mean she no longer part of her mom and dad family just priorities changed and they not always going to be there for her one day the parents going to be gone.
I wish her family would have learned about this before they married
I wish her family had taught her about birth control and chastity
emilys dad is one luckky guy uuhuhhh
So what's the solution? Have these people forgo their tradition because the Americans feel "uncomfy"? Why did you stay silent when Emily married a man from a different culture then if this is a problem?
Agreed. If you choose to marry someone of a different culture, you need to be prepared to accept their traditions.
This is nothing new and practiced by so many cultures. She is their “property” as in responsibility. Geez folks, do some research and get some exposure and understanding of other cultures already.
It seems to me that THEY should respect the American culture just like they want to be respected
Goes both ways !
Always I just think his family wants free $
Emilys mom is so pretty look like a white angel 🤍🤍🤍🤍
That’s how it was a long time ago in the USA women were property
That's why it's better you people married someone with the same norms , way of living . We can critisize and judge each others , still,,, that's the way things are. Every follk, country has theire own traditionele. We don't need to like it. They can't change us, don't try to change them. It is what it is. I love kobe and emely. It's difficult
My God, stop saying PROPERTY! The old man is completely not understanding the pain on the faces of Emily's parents..
Come on let’s be real just do the cultural ceremony so everyone’s happy y’all know they’re not leaving the US - only one that has control in this family is Emily she’s got her parents wrapped around her finger
Shes not property, and shouldnt be treated as such
How sad 😢😢😢 like cattle 😢
😭
This is so silly in a few weeks Emily will be back in America.. her parents act like they’ve sold Emily into slavery
Get over it you won't selling her for any price its just a traditions things nothing else
Did you hear what the man said, she is their property. If she died she should be buried in Cameroon 🇨🇲
@annecelestin8534 Poor wording, but traditionally, a bride would move in with the man's family and continue lineage. If she died, she would be buried in the man's village as this is where her new family would be (husband and children).
Technically, she would be an asset to the man's family as opposed to her own (as she would have left home). The man's family would benefit from her day to day contributions such as cooking/cleaning etc.
This is similar to a father giving her daughter away. She would then belong to the husband and family. She would take on his last name and all her offspring then carry the husband's last name.
@@JustMe-ug3mk all these things that you are saying do not apply in this case. The Bible says husbands and wives become one when they are married, not the husband’s family. She is a human being and cannot be an asset to any man or family member. On top of that she is American 🇺🇸, they don’t do bride price. The reason why they are on board with it is because of Kobi , they want to make him happy otherwise they will not do it. I remembered that I watched a video on RUclips, the guy is from Kenya 🇰🇪 and his wife is from the Philippines 🇵🇭. When they went to the lady country for their second wedding, the guy said that his in- law said they don’t do bride price. All those talking points about bride price are African and Indian countries
@JustMe-ug3mk that is he is opinion don't forget she is American citizen if happened to be she deid in Cameroon her husband can still buried her in America don't take what this people saying
I like this couple they love each other,but don't agree to there term,you have your own term to, is in sane what they demanding ,do a USA wedding with USA rules
Omg get over it!!