Advice for everyone coming 2 tremblant from Ontario, go through montreal, because we do have a load of super chargers here and that back road is definitely sketchy- it goes off the highway and it’s a remote off grid area and it’s very rare you will see someone there.
That was great. Thanks for sharing your drive in Winter weather conditions. Just picked up my Model Y last week and loving it. Will.be interesting to see how it performs this Winter 2020-21.
Thanks for the review bud. This is exactly the reason I don’t want to buy one yet man. You cannot afford to have not hit at -30 to -48 during any sort of trip lol.
I'd be curious if you did route planning with A Better Route Planner and what it said versus Tesla's routing. Seems Tesla's estimation is always quite lofty in cold conditions. I think I'd have trouble sacrificing myself in a 17 degree cabin, even with a seat heater.
Heading up to Mont-Tremblant next week with Tesla 3 Long range. Heading up from Philadelphia, just wanted to see if you remember what roads to avoid toward the end of the trip? Was hoping to avoid the sketchy stuff you showed
We took delivery of our MY in July so haven't seen a "winter" yet and the effectiveness of the HP. Our first opportunity to take a winter road trip may happen in Dec if we this its safe to go visit the grandkids in Maryland from Illinois, about 980 miles one way. and another reason a heated steering wheel is a must. Great vid and thanks for sharing. Good info for us new owners. From my Volt days tire pressure was a HUGE range killer. I always pumped them up 4 to 6 psi over the recommended psi. Doing the same in our new Y.
Hi Rylie : I enjoyed it as I am now an owner myself (of a 2020 SR+) but I was curious about a few things : i) your autonomy is listed as 560km on the site : you said something like 450 or so in good weather - that's a heck of a discrepancy. ii) you were driving on average (even in the sped-up footage) between 110-115 km/h where EVs are notoriously poor : I would recommend a repeat without going over 105km/h iii) also, once at a supercharger : I'd would also do a complete car warm-up from frunk-2-trunk : then let it go as you drive. -> this based on my previous use of a Soul-EV (2016) & an e-Golf (2018)
wow fun drive... but taking side roads like that was kind of creating a challenge for yourself. It's pretty in good weather, but If you had gone via Montreal and the 15, you would have had the option of the SC in Fairview on the West island, and Laval, and the 15 is a real highway, so would have been a less taxing drive. I've done the Montreal Toronto run twice so far (once in February), and with three or four different SC's along the way, it is kind of relaxing. About the range thing... you know you need to use the Energy /Trip display, and NOT the battery guage, right? It's discussed properly here: insideevs.com/features/401481/tesla-range-estimator-improvment/ For me using the stupid "guage" is often 30% off in the winter...
please put some summary info into description about the approximate range in highway+winter conditions. From the video it looks like 360 km vs 500 km in summer time. and also what I see is you drove around 110 kmh (70 mph) but if the road, rules and the traffic allows 120 kmh (75 mph) is not outrageous, how much range decreases in winter with a steady 75 mph speed?
Good vid. I've narrowed my choices down to the Mach E Premium ER AWD and the Tesla Model 3 LR. Which EV would you recommend for Canadian winters (Toronto)? I'd require the EV for two child seats and golf clubs. Not intended for road trips. I would also be doing the majority of charging at home. I don't believe I would qualify for an EV incentive in Ontario.
Yeah, I learned what it is like: I take my $50,000 car and drive under the speed limit in a heavy jacket with the heater on low or off so so it is freezing cold inside so that I might make it to the next supercharger where I will pay $0.30/KWH to charge it up while I sit there for 40 min. to an hour. Yeah, the love and the nostalgia are overwhelming. When I crave this experience I will just take my model A ford for a winter drive.
Great video. I'm in Ottawa and thinking of getting a Model 3 and winter driving has me a little concerned. Funny you were watching Trent and Allie on RUclips. We follow them as we have a Roadtrek van and we were literally watching there last video before watching your video.
We have a TM3 SR+ and even at -35c it handled winter with ease.Not once did I get stuck.We live in Calgary.During winter we follow ABC Always Be Charging whenever possible,We set charge limit to 80% as to not damage the battery and pre heat the car while plugged in before we leave,Always had a warm car/battery to get into last winter.
I’m in Ottawa as well, being on the east side, we don’t have superchargers, so it’s important to be prepared for home charging (I have the wall connector 240V,48A). Home charging is super easy and convenient. However, during the last couple times I went to MTL, the winter driving could be tricky; range does drop a bit, but not super concerning as long as you have your charging solution figured out. Battery % drops quite a bit when it gets really cold (6%) especially when you want the cabin to be warm and battery conditioned… so speaking from my experience, if you are away from home and don’t have a wall connector available, I’d recommend super charging then plug in your mobile connector so that you don’t lose too much battery% from the cold weather…
Probably not that much. I was playing music the entire time and have never found that to have an impact on the battery life. Heater probably would cause a bit of reduction in range but keeping it in the 18-19c temperature doesn't seem to use as much power
Watching this makes me certain that I don"t want an electric car. Planning out stops, lower heating, drive slower. Just fill up and go with a regular car.
As great as the video was, it sounds like he didn’t necessarily use the best road for this trip. The moment he said he has a stop in Casselman, Ontario, I knew he was taking a direct but sketchy route. Had he gone through another major city, like Montreal, he would have had pure highway til Tremblant. That matters because with easier access to more superchargers, he could’ve sat in a warm and cozy car, instead of stretching the limit. He also said he was fully charging, would also wouldn’t have been necessary. The navigation system generally tells you how long to charge at a particular station to increase the time efficiency of the trip. An EV may not be the ideal vehicle for a trip to the boonies, especially if you don’t have easy access to superchargers, but your Tesla may at least let you know. The challenging trip makes the video exciting lol
How long was the trip start to finish, and how long did it take at each super charge station? From SK and curious for winter trips to Banff, which is a bit farther than this trip
We live in Calgary.Tesla built the Superchargers close enough together as it would be no problem.He was skipping/jumping superchargers.What we do after we plug in I put the next supercharger into the navigation it estimates how much you will arrive with,We charge to that with some extra buffer.If weather is nice then you can skip chargers.IE just last week we drove our TM3 SR+ from Hope BC to Kamloops BC charging to 80% arriving with 23% temperatures were +31c to +37c A/C on speed around 110-135kmh.
@@arianitonline8748 it's not as many charge stations as gas station and they all have diff charge times and payment methods. And u can't charge a car as fast as u put gas in a car so yes it's much easier to go in a gas car vs electric no matter how good the infrastructure is it's not as good as petro .
@@spectrexr1 I don't know how your road trips are, but when I go on a road trip, I have to wait few minutes till my turn comes to fill my car with gas because there is always a line. then of course, i will get something to drink or eat, which will take at least, if I am alone, 10 minutes. so I am at 15 minutes now. 15 minutes is enough to charge your battery enough. and don't mention the cost. 2€ for a full charge vs 60€ for a full tank (in my case, others have bigger tanks). and where I live, and the countries where I do road trips (germany mostly), you have same number of charging stations as gas station, and even more than gas stations. it all depends.
I have done 140,000 km in a x75D with costs and breakdowns that I have never seen in other cars, hardly leaving the guarantee of 80,000 km. I have had more than € 30,000 expenses in the last 60,000km. I just sell this terrific car to an adept of the Tesla sect with a loss of 70% of its initial value (No one wants it out of warranty). The worst investment !!! I'm never going to be fooled like this again by marketing (very very good from Tesla, and from his RUclipsrs assistants ...) Good luck to the poors owners of model 3 who will spends days in the technical service 😰🤑🤑🤮🤮 Don’t listen people who says no maintenance or cheap maintenance: Tesla is a big trap !!
Advice for everyone coming 2 tremblant from Ontario, go through montreal, because we do have a load of super chargers here and that back road is definitely sketchy- it goes off the highway and it’s a remote off grid area and it’s very rare you will see someone there.
Awesome video thanks! I can't get past the fact that you are really bundled up...gloves, coat...etc. LOL
I'm watching because I'm taking a trip to Mont-Tremblant from Ottawa soon. I loved the Trent & Allie RUclips cameo ;)
That was great. Thanks for sharing your drive in Winter weather conditions. Just picked up my Model Y last week and loving it. Will.be interesting to see how it performs this Winter 2020-21.
How was it did it effect the change much that’s my biggest concern I am thinking of getting model 3 but I am thinking of getting one after the winter
@@blaketaylor9099 , when very cold, you can loose as much as 30% of range. But the car performed very well.
I know. Which means of you are traveling, you may have to charge more frequently.
Hmm a luxury car you can't heat in the winter ...sounds great
Right
15% is overly conservative. My goal is generally to arrive with 10% but 5% is probably a more reasonable time to worry.
I have a spoiled model 3 :-) it never sees snow or salt ( And we live in Colorado) Luckily I kept the old Mazda around for that purpose!
Thanks 4 the ride...
Thanks for the review bud. This is exactly the reason I don’t want to buy one yet man. You cannot afford to have not hit at -30 to -48 during any sort of trip lol.
I'd be curious if you did route planning with A Better Route Planner and what it said versus Tesla's routing. Seems Tesla's estimation is always quite lofty in cold conditions. I think I'd have trouble sacrificing myself in a 17 degree cabin, even with a seat heater.
Dude, what's the music you have in this video? It's all super chill, hard beats... Love it!
Heading up to Mont-Tremblant next week with Tesla 3 Long range. Heading up from Philadelphia, just wanted to see if you remember what roads to avoid toward the end of the trip? Was hoping to avoid the sketchy stuff you showed
Well done. Thanks for the coverage of the trip. Maybe include how long you spend at each charging stop. Phil from Ottawa.
Yes please ! How much would a full charge actually cost
@@yasminebubteina i beleive a full charge is around 24 usd so around 32 cad
Yes please. The charging times is the big difference for all us ICE drivers who wants to take the jump
tyler thomas I’ve seen people full charge for under 15 usd
We took delivery of our MY in July so haven't seen a "winter" yet and the effectiveness of the HP. Our first opportunity to take a winter road trip may happen in Dec if we this its safe to go visit the grandkids in Maryland from Illinois, about 980 miles one way. and another reason a heated steering wheel is a must. Great vid and thanks for sharing. Good info for us new owners. From my Volt days tire pressure was a HUGE range killer. I always pumped them up 4 to 6 psi over the recommended psi. Doing the same in our new Y.
Awesome video. I’m picking up my M3 SR+ next month in Toronto.
How’s the car?
Do you mind let me know the total charging cost make you from GTA to Mount tremblant?
Hi Rylie : I enjoyed it as I am now an owner myself (of a 2020 SR+) but I was curious about a few things :
i) your autonomy is listed as 560km on the site : you said something like 450 or so in good weather - that's a heck of a discrepancy.
ii) you were driving on average (even in the sped-up footage) between 110-115 km/h where EVs are notoriously poor : I would recommend a repeat without going over 105km/h
iii) also, once at a supercharger : I'd would also do a complete car warm-up from frunk-2-trunk : then let it go as you drive.
-> this based on my previous use of a Soul-EV (2016) & an e-Golf (2018)
This is great. What winters did you have on here?
wow fun drive... but taking side roads like that was kind of creating a challenge for yourself. It's pretty in good weather, but If you had gone via Montreal and the 15, you would have had the option of the SC in Fairview on the West island, and Laval, and the 15 is a real highway, so would have been a less taxing drive. I've done the Montreal Toronto run twice so far (once in February), and with three or four different SC's along the way, it is kind of relaxing. About the range thing... you know you need to use the Energy /Trip display, and NOT the battery guage, right? It's discussed properly here: insideevs.com/features/401481/tesla-range-estimator-improvment/ For me using the stupid "guage" is often 30% off in the winter...
please put some summary info into description about the approximate range in highway+winter conditions. From the video it looks like 360 km vs 500 km in summer time. and also what I see is you drove around 110 kmh (70 mph) but if the road, rules and the traffic allows 120 kmh (75 mph) is not outrageous, how much range decreases in winter with a steady 75 mph speed?
In Toronto highway traffic routinely gets to around 130-140 kmh on the fast lane, and doing that speed in winter loses 50-60% of the charge
@@IR-xy3ij thank you user rm2ov1bp6c
Good vid. I've narrowed my choices down to the Mach E Premium ER AWD and the Tesla Model 3 LR. Which EV would you recommend for Canadian winters (Toronto)? I'd require the EV for two child seats and golf clubs. Not intended for road trips. I would also be doing the majority of charging at home. I don't believe I would qualify for an EV incentive in Ontario.
Model 3 LR. There is literally no competition at this very moment (not sure about in a few years tho)
What year is the car?
Yeah, I learned what it is like: I take my $50,000 car and drive under the speed limit in a heavy jacket with the heater on low or off so so it is freezing cold inside so that I might make it to the next supercharger where I will pay $0.30/KWH to charge it up while I sit there for 40 min. to an hour. Yeah, the love and the nostalgia are overwhelming. When I crave this experience I will just take my model A ford for a winter drive.
Enjoyed your video...do you have winter tires on or stock tires? Looks like it handled the road well
How long were you at Mt. Tremblant? How did the M3LR fare sitting in sub-zero temps overnight?
Great video. I'm in Ottawa and thinking of getting a Model 3 and winter driving has me a little concerned. Funny you were watching Trent and Allie on RUclips. We follow them as we have a Roadtrek van and we were literally watching there last video before watching your video.
We have a TM3 SR+ and even at -35c it handled winter with ease.Not once did I get stuck.We live in Calgary.During winter we follow ABC Always Be Charging whenever possible,We set charge limit to 80% as to not damage the battery and pre heat the car while plugged in before we leave,Always had a warm car/battery to get into last winter.
I’m in Ottawa as well, being on the east side, we don’t have superchargers, so it’s important to be prepared for home charging (I have the wall connector 240V,48A). Home charging is super easy and convenient. However, during the last couple times I went to MTL, the winter driving could be tricky; range does drop a bit, but not super concerning as long as you have your charging solution figured out. Battery % drops quite a bit when it gets really cold (6%) especially when you want the cabin to be warm and battery conditioned… so speaking from my experience, if you are away from home and don’t have a wall connector available, I’d recommend super charging then plug in your mobile connector so that you don’t lose too much battery% from the cold weather…
How do you think your entire trip would have differed if you had heater at 21C and listening to audio all the way through?
Probably not that much. I was playing music the entire time and have never found that to have an impact on the battery life. Heater probably would cause a bit of reduction in range but keeping it in the 18-19c temperature doesn't seem to use as much power
@@TorontoRealEstate_ca thanks for taking the time!
Question: winter salt corrosion on Tesla paint jobs, any corrosion?
Watching this makes me certain that I don"t want an electric car.
Planning out stops, lower heating, drive slower. Just fill up and go with a regular car.
As great as the video was, it sounds like he didn’t necessarily use the best road for this trip. The moment he said he has a stop in Casselman, Ontario, I knew he was taking a direct but sketchy route. Had he gone through another major city, like Montreal, he would have had pure highway til Tremblant. That matters because with easier access to more superchargers, he could’ve sat in a warm and cozy car, instead of stretching the limit.
He also said he was fully charging, would also wouldn’t have been necessary. The navigation system generally tells you how long to charge at a particular station to increase the time efficiency of the trip.
An EV may not be the ideal vehicle for a trip to the boonies, especially if you don’t have easy access to superchargers, but your Tesla may at least let you know.
The challenging trip makes the video exciting lol
How long was the trip start to finish, and how long did it take at each super charge station? From SK and curious for winter trips to Banff, which is a bit farther than this trip
We live in Calgary.Tesla built the Superchargers close enough together as it would be no problem.He was skipping/jumping superchargers.What we do after we plug in I put the next supercharger into the navigation it estimates how much you will arrive with,We charge to that with some extra buffer.If weather is nice then you can skip chargers.IE just last week we drove our TM3 SR+ from Hope BC to Kamloops BC charging to 80% arriving with 23% temperatures were +31c to +37c A/C on speed around 110-135kmh.
The tesla model 3 for the Canadian market has yellow rear turn signals and a rear fog light at the rear?
You are "playing" too much with the screen. Eyes on the road 🙂
Lower heat?fuck that. Gotta be comfortable on road trip. Ridiculous
Blizzard conditions...!?🤔🤣
Hi dear love from India, love your videos
do you pay for supercharging?
We pay for supercharging.Calgary AB to Victoria BC return 2100km cost us around $60 Canadian.99% of the time we charge at home costs just under $1.80.
Yeah let’s make the car more efficient and arrive with frostbite I don’t think so
So basically buy a 60k car but cant enjoy it cuz winter fucks the point of the car
Long road trips seem so much easier in a gas car
not really. it all depends on the EV infrastructure
@@arianitonline8748 it's not as many charge stations as gas station and they all have diff charge times and payment methods. And u can't charge a car as fast as u put gas in a car so yes it's much easier to go in a gas car vs electric no matter how good the infrastructure is it's not as good as petro .
@@spectrexr1 I don't know how your road trips are, but when I go on a road trip, I have to wait few minutes till my turn comes to fill my car with gas because there is always a line. then of course, i will get something to drink or eat, which will take at least, if I am alone, 10 minutes. so I am at 15 minutes now. 15 minutes is enough to charge your battery enough. and don't mention the cost. 2€ for a full charge vs 60€ for a full tank (in my case, others have bigger tanks).
and where I live, and the countries where I do road trips (germany mostly), you have same number of charging stations as gas station, and even more than gas stations.
it all depends.
You’re so cute 🥰
Love from India
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I have done 140,000 km in a x75D with costs and breakdowns that I have never seen in other cars, hardly leaving the guarantee of 80,000 km.
I have had more than € 30,000 expenses in the last 60,000km.
I just sell this terrific car to an adept of the Tesla sect with a loss of 70% of its initial value (No one wants it out of warranty). The worst investment !!!
I'm never going to be fooled like this again by marketing (very very good from Tesla, and from his RUclipsrs assistants ...)
Good luck to the poors owners of model 3 who will spends days in the technical service 😰🤑🤑🤮🤮
Don’t listen people who says no maintenance or cheap maintenance: Tesla is a big trap !!
Could you tell us HOW you ended up with those expenses? Thanks