DO'S & DON'TS: How To Draw a Face | Realistic Drawing Tutorial Step by Step

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  • @KirstyPartridgeArt
    @KirstyPartridgeArt  6 лет назад +2585

    I am back with another Do's and Don'ts for drawing a face :D I really hope you find it useful! What did you guys learn from the video? Do you have any tips to add?

    • @unphayzable6637
      @unphayzable6637 6 лет назад +36

      Kirsty Partridge Art I learned that I'm never gonna progress in my shading if I just waste hours on trying to get a realistic sketch freehand.

    • @liztheig
      @liztheig 6 лет назад +8

      Kirsty Partridge Love this video. Can’t find this video on patreon.

    • @sarahinoue8776
      @sarahinoue8776 6 лет назад +11

      I love you Kirsty!!!!! Your videos are amazing and they are so helpful! Thank you so much!!!

    • @schokolade3374
      @schokolade3374 6 лет назад +9

      I can almost draw realistic but it look like a cartoon...

    • @cha1279
      @cha1279 6 лет назад +9

      Thank you. I learned how important the initial sketch really is for the overall success. I will pay more attention to that from now on.

  • @kriscaturr
    @kriscaturr 5 лет назад +9340

    Here i am, trying to draw a face portrait...
    *finished*
    *my mom passes by*
    "Whoa what a scary fish! "

  • @wigsnatched4082
    @wigsnatched4082 5 лет назад +6711

    The “don’t” drawing is 50% young Kendall Jenner, 50% sid from ice age.
    And 100% better than I can do.

  • @golfingemma290
    @golfingemma290 6 лет назад +1469

    What’s depressing is that her “don’ts” drawing is like a thousand time better than anything I can draw 😂😂

  • @DylanCunningham-cu8fp
    @DylanCunningham-cu8fp 3 года назад +1491

    Key tip: if u distance yourself from a drawing you’re not happy with it’ll look better! I personally go 50 meters away and then it looks perfect😌

    • @rajeshprasad8671
      @rajeshprasad8671 3 года назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/JKR2ns2rGpk/видео.html

    • @msjann
      @msjann 3 года назад +124

      Same except I move far away until all you see is a black dot for it to look good

    • @dunno09
      @dunno09 3 года назад +14

      Yes lol

    • @Haruko_art
      @Haruko_art 3 года назад +11

      You are right 🤣😂

    • @CharbelY
      @CharbelY 3 года назад +16

      That way you can’t even see it, so you’ll imagine that it’s good

  • @laci2966
    @laci2966 5 лет назад +6672

    The “DO” took her 7 hours. Important to remember that.

    • @F011ow3r_oFTheFlam3
      @F011ow3r_oFTheFlam3 5 лет назад +335

      Quality over quantity all day 😉

    • @kerstinscheiblmair800
      @kerstinscheiblmair800 5 лет назад +248

      drawing needs time :) I draw on a drawing most of the time 4-6 hours and it is not as realistic as hers.

    • @courtneywatson619
      @courtneywatson619 5 лет назад +108

      Ima beginner and my drawing too about 3 months and i spent about 20 minutes a day,and after this video i see so many things i did wrong

    • @itshonaaas
      @itshonaaas 5 лет назад +80

      You really can't rush art😆

    • @THeOliveGardin
      @THeOliveGardin 5 лет назад +22

      @Jane Doe yep. Art school does that to you. Shit, I didn't even wanna do art class.

  • @kawaiipotato2505
    @kawaiipotato2505 4 года назад +6710

    When her “don’t” face is better than anything I’ve ever drawn...

  • @GnoweeGaming
    @GnoweeGaming 5 лет назад +5823

    Biggest art mistake people make
    The other eye doesn't match the other eye

    • @documentationslave397
      @documentationslave397 5 лет назад +213

      Violetly Perfect Draw an old person, sometimes it looks normal lmao

    • @Megamongmind
      @Megamongmind 5 лет назад +38

      Documentation Slave 🤣🤣

    • @alexalvarado2156
      @alexalvarado2156 5 лет назад +96

      It is so hard but once you get it you feel so proud of yourself lmao

    • @yazzyxx
      @yazzyxx 5 лет назад +78

      Well, eyes aren't always gonna be perfectly symmetrical, so you don't have to draw eyes symmetrical either.

    • @vsboardza
      @vsboardza 5 лет назад +26

      Yeah but in doing my self portrait I realised my eyes are two different shapes

  • @fairyfloss5600
    @fairyfloss5600 4 года назад +428

    If you're a beginner i highly suggest that u trace your outline. That's how i started and now im pretty good at freehand without even tracing my reference. There's nothing wrong with tracing:))

    • @mnster4212
      @mnster4212 3 года назад +7

      What is tracing?

    • @kendabeastv2917
      @kendabeastv2917 3 года назад +23

      Oh I know what you mean. I did that first and I'm still learning. And yes Tracing is not bad. Good job!!

    • @feb388
      @feb388 3 года назад +11

      Thanks . I also trace but I always felt bad about it . And pisting it . Sooooooo.

    • @fairyfloss5600
      @fairyfloss5600 3 года назад +9

      @@feb388 i felt the same way when i started doing it but then i realized i got better bc of it.

    • @ihategmailpasswords
      @ihategmailpasswords 3 года назад +24

      tracing can be a good learning technique, but it's also just as important to credit the original creators of the media you traced, should you post your picture later 🤍

  • @hats8575
    @hats8575 6 лет назад +3933

    You vs the girl he tells you not to worry about.

  • @pepsicola0786
    @pepsicola0786 4 года назад +759

    When she was explaining all the "don'ts", I was literally cringing bc I do each and every mistakes and although my sketches aren't really bad, they definitely miss the ultra realism.

    • @無題6376
      @無題6376 4 года назад

      Hmmm......

    • @msjann
      @msjann 3 года назад +6

      My sketches are the worst...no, I'm not being humble

    • @jinmyluv
      @jinmyluv 3 года назад +14

      Same.... I was so happy when I drew my BTS portraits,and now that I'm watching this.... I feel betrayed by my own self...😭😭😭

    • @justsomehamsterwithamustac7419
      @justsomehamsterwithamustac7419 3 года назад +6

      This is so true, I was literally looking at it and like 👁 👄 👁 💧 “gotta change this too, and this”

    • @spershikarajput2489
      @spershikarajput2489 3 года назад +1

      😅😂

  • @renatoruelan2091
    @renatoruelan2091 4 года назад +1168

    The true meaning of ART is doing it with passion.

  • @a.w.n.n3103
    @a.w.n.n3103 4 года назад +170

    She really has a point.. This isn't about different styles of art, Realism it is! especially when someone wants you to draw and pay commission just to achieve the sketch of their faces.. This is a perfect example of tutorial plus if you're having a good structure of reference.

    • @liveglimpse3923
      @liveglimpse3923 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/8l9_KAMduWQ/видео.html

  • @nicolechen5853
    @nicolechen5853 6 лет назад +1623

    First of all:
    95% people talk about the dont is better than their masterpiece
    5% of the people wants to learn

    • @azsampako2266
      @azsampako2266 5 лет назад +23

      If you just get the proportions right its gonna look 100% better than the don'ts.Idk whats all the fuss about.

    • @Ruushii
      @Ruushii 5 лет назад +18

      The 5% think the don't drawing looks good they didn't say they didnt want to learn.

    • @PastelEmoFox
      @PastelEmoFox 5 лет назад +8

      I’m the 100% I guess then😂

    • @eatmorechicken1221
      @eatmorechicken1221 5 лет назад +2

      Nicole Chen I was hoping to find the comments backing up their reasons why tracing is bad when she says it’s a tool.

    • @never371
      @never371 5 лет назад +5

      95% ppl talking about the dont better then their masterpiece
      4%actually wanna learn
      And 1% are charts

  • @alekisno4131
    @alekisno4131 6 лет назад +703

    The do:
    -Picture i look at
    The dont:
    -my best drawing ever

  • @casualpotato9375
    @casualpotato9375 5 лет назад +2896

    Twinkle twinkle little star
    Why is art so freaking hard
    Up above the world so high
    I can’t draw the other eye
    edit: I DIDNT KNOW THIS WAS ALREADY MADE OKAY IM NOT STEALING IT😂😂

    • @hollyhorgan4824
      @hollyhorgan4824 5 лет назад +28

      Bruh 😂😂😂

    • @TopAIpha
      @TopAIpha 5 лет назад +28

      This is an audio on Tik Tok

    • @hannavenus3778
      @hannavenus3778 5 лет назад +9

      Nice

    • @nhkhynnn9372
      @nhkhynnn9372 5 лет назад +31

      Twinkle twinkle little star
      I’m gonna die if I tried this

    • @migueliana
      @migueliana 5 лет назад +19

      True makes me so frustrated not to be able to draw the eye makes me wanna cry!!.😶

  • @ipow1035
    @ipow1035 4 года назад +576

    Everyone: Ohhhh my art is sooooo bad.
    Me: Lets just appreciate how much information she gives for free.
    Thx Kirsty, for all the tips!! 💕

    • @4grinzcasino
      @4grinzcasino 3 года назад +2

      me to i love them :) :0

    • @CharbelY
      @CharbelY 3 года назад +2

      Well she does get money for it so...

    • @jeaniejean4107
      @jeaniejean4107 3 года назад +11

      @@CharbelY yeah but do you realize how many hours she had to put in unpaid before getting monetized? It takes a LOT to make tutorial videos, time editing, filming, plus all the money you have to put out for equipment and supplies. Just saying...

    • @claire-zzzz
      @claire-zzzz 2 года назад

      OP: im not like o t h e r bad artists

    • @claire-zzzz
      @claire-zzzz 2 года назад

      OP: im not like o t h e r amateurs

  • @E3ECO
    @E3ECO 5 лет назад +321

    I've learned two things in my amateur attempts at drawing, and you've mentioned both of them, albeit with different phrasing:
    - Real life doesn't have outlines.
    - Draw what you see, not what you think should be there.

    • @user-bl2vr9jj2z
      @user-bl2vr9jj2z 4 года назад +6

      and if you're drawing digitally u can flip the image to c wuts wrong cuz sometimes u get too used to ur unflipped drawing that u dont notice the mistakes

    • @dehilmabahadur8769
      @dehilmabahadur8769 Год назад +1

      🎉good accurate words

  • @mrs.blurryface9712
    @mrs.blurryface9712 6 лет назад +1796

    The „bad“ drawing still looks better than all of my good drawings and that’s depressing

    • @abhasingh5627
      @abhasingh5627 5 лет назад +3

      Ikr

    • @danbruh5004
      @danbruh5004 5 лет назад +3

      Then your bad drawing isn't bad tf

    • @daniellav.cunanan5464
      @daniellav.cunanan5464 5 лет назад +3

      Mrs. Blurryface what "bad drawing"?
      its not a bad drawing, its for the don'ts
      it means the things and tips you shouldnt do

    • @balkangirl1479
      @balkangirl1479 5 лет назад +1

      Don't worry, she just traces the outline of faces from actual photos, she's not a real artist

    • @starhasasword5223
      @starhasasword5223 5 лет назад +2

      My name's blurry face and I care what you think

  • @spoiledmilkmine
    @spoiledmilkmine 5 лет назад +4674

    if i drew the "dont" drawing i would honestly be proud of myself lol

    • @hwalxvr
      @hwalxvr 4 года назад +43

      Abby same

    • @evat8217
      @evat8217 4 года назад +28

      Ohhh so true same

    • @krishanukrori2452
      @krishanukrori2452 4 года назад +17

      Same

    • @tapoemt3995
      @tapoemt3995 4 года назад +28

      @@krishanukrori2452 Just call it Lindsey Lohan and it's a success! :)

    • @samanthaisbell4326
      @samanthaisbell4326 4 года назад +8

      I have drawn a bit better than the don’t drawing before, so now I feel bad

  • @brisagonzalez2406
    @brisagonzalez2406 4 года назад +92

    guys the reason her “don’t” drawing still looks pretty nice is because it is!! it just doesn’t look nice if it’s labeled as a hyper realistic drawing! :)

    • @liveglimpse3923
      @liveglimpse3923 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/8l9_KAMduWQ/видео.html

  • @alekisno4131
    @alekisno4131 6 лет назад +1351

    "This type of eraser is better to use for realism"
    Me-i just lucky that i happened to find a stray eraser and an old pencil 😂

    • @Caroline-wo7rm
      @Caroline-wo7rm 6 лет назад +4

      lol

    • @WildVee
      @WildVee 5 лет назад +14

      They're really not that expensive. Even if you don't draw realism, I'd recommend buying a kneaded eraser and a pen eraser.

    • @katysmith1641
      @katysmith1641 5 лет назад +3

      I used to be terrible at drawing pencil portraits. Now I draw them like a pro. Learn how to draw pencil portraits like a pro here: HootDraw.xyz

    • @Destinygotmethinking
      @Destinygotmethinking 5 лет назад +1

      SAME

    • @Ruushii
      @Ruushii 5 лет назад +6

      me: uh huh uh huh totally totally *reaches for dollar General pencil*

  • @anatoliyrubanenko7277
    @anatoliyrubanenko7277 5 лет назад +331

    Thats crazy i could tell it was Selena just from her drawing her eyes. Good job lady

    • @bigred8730
      @bigred8730 5 лет назад +19

      I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED THAT

    • @SammyEddie
      @SammyEddie 5 лет назад +25

      Wow, so enlightened! What gave you your premonition? Could it be the thumbnail pic, of her?

    • @Deadpooltx
      @Deadpooltx 5 лет назад +9

      @@SammyEddie exactly! He probably couldn't have noticed if Selena's thumbnail wasn't there ! Lmao

    • @monsterpe9499
      @monsterpe9499 5 лет назад +2

      Why is she fat?

  • @ryamiller1045
    @ryamiller1045 5 лет назад +2487

    Her: using blending stumps, fancy pencils and erasers
    Me: using q-tips, old pencils and erasers I found lying around the house

    • @subliminaladdict9863
      @subliminaladdict9863 5 лет назад +54

      Omg saaame

    • @maizym7549
      @maizym7549 5 лет назад +41

      Samee with the q tips omggg

    • @qi2313
      @qi2313 5 лет назад +11

      i do exactly the same hahhaha shading is a nightmare tbh

    • @royninan
      @royninan 5 лет назад +2

      Me....

    • @KikiCatMeow
      @KikiCatMeow 5 лет назад +22

      Whatever materials you can find can work just as nicely as expensive materials if you use them right OwO

  • @mairinmccabe
    @mairinmccabe 3 года назад +1286

    Brain: I can draw realism.
    Hands: No you can't...

    • @abi_x6208
      @abi_x6208 3 года назад +12

      Girl, same

    • @Lilevil3
      @Lilevil3 3 года назад +37

      My Hands : yes I can
      My eyes : let me see the picture woah it's easy to draw
      My brain : well let's do it together team work is best
      After a hour : wait who's that person I don't draw this person .
      Me : blaming my eyes you ruined it . My bad eyes .

    • @msjann
      @msjann 3 года назад +20

      My brain: This is gonna be so easy!
      My hands: Say that again?

    • @cordariusclayton1464
      @cordariusclayton1464 3 года назад

      Fsee

    • @thinkerfhel7669
      @thinkerfhel7669 3 года назад

      Same

  • @dollinterrupted
    @dollinterrupted 5 лет назад +54

    I really admire you as a person. Everytime i watch your videos i am in awe of not just your artistic skills but your ability to speak non stop but keep every sentence informative, insightful, endearing and to the point. You are becoming my role model lol keep it up!

  • @rajatsharma949
    @rajatsharma949 4 года назад +67

    Wowww 😍 She explained everything. She openly revealed the tracing thing as well. Trust me guys she told us all the things which usually pops up in our head but we don't care about. I'm in love with this Artist❤️

  • @4u25out
    @4u25out 5 лет назад +490

    Her drawing looks like a black and white photograph.

  • @xindigoraex28
    @xindigoraex28 3 года назад +64

    Me after taking art for 9 years in school *can only draw anything animated*
    Me after a couple months of following these tutorials and allowing Kirsty to mold those skills *can now semi whip out some realism*
    I can’t wait to see how I do after a couple years🥰 I got a new sketch pad just to practice my realism😆

    • @rababkarim7469
      @rababkarim7469 Год назад

      How is your drawing now lovely? Did u experience with different materials or art styles?

    • @grapetonenatches186
      @grapetonenatches186 8 месяцев назад

      Makes me wonder what your art teacher was doing for 9 years.

  • @KittyAndZuri
    @KittyAndZuri 6 лет назад +652

    Are you able to do a tutorial helping with drawing faces from different angles? Like a face looking down or sideways etc. thank you ❤️❤️

    • @ahanasengupta1888
      @ahanasengupta1888 6 лет назад +8

      VonKat Artistry yeahhhh I need that too

    • @vivifleur9528
      @vivifleur9528 6 лет назад +1

      that would be great

    • @michellereyes2628
      @michellereyes2628 6 лет назад

      If you want to learn how to draw pencil portraits like a pro then visit this website here: HootDraw.xyz

    • @antonschwarz2608
      @antonschwarz2608 5 лет назад

      I know the proko video, but i also can tell u: make a lot drawings from every angle. And after time it is easy

  • @DaBlondDude
    @DaBlondDude 6 лет назад +1945

    Even your don'ts would be HUGE progress for me lol

  • @amosdotl6892
    @amosdotl6892 5 лет назад +103

    The "don't" tutorial really helped improve my drawings, thanks!

  • @greyswandir2807
    @greyswandir2807 2 года назад +8

    By the time I came to your video, I had watched dozens of other vids trying to get a handle on how to improve with no success. You have basically listed absolutely every mistake I've been making and taught me how it should be done. THANK YOU!!! I can't wait to try these tips out.

  • @ka.lewie12
    @ka.lewie12 4 года назад +409

    The things that I learn from watching this video:
    -the softer the better
    -never rush, always take time
    Thank you so much.
    Btw, what pencils do you recommend?

    • @hongxi4504
      @hongxi4504 4 года назад +32

      Kleo Anjielo Ayunan Mine: Dark hair 7B/6B eyes 5B skin (white/light) 2B skin (black/dark) 6B Light hair 2B

    • @stephaniesteph1748
      @stephaniesteph1748 4 года назад +12

      I recommend the one that you have at home, bcs you should be able to do art with anything you have and have the same result using "cheap" and "expencive" pencils, erasers, etc...) 😂

    • @vexanval
      @vexanval 4 года назад +7

      Kasimir: 2H , HB , 5B , 10B
      FaberCastell Kneaded Eraser
      FaberCastell Solid Polyester Eraser
      Deli 24 Pcs. Colors Water Color Pencils.
      Blending Stump
      Well thats what I use and My Experience has been very good

    • @iwillalwaysloveyoulove
      @iwillalwaysloveyoulove 4 года назад +6

      @@vexanval oi mikasa aren't you supposed so look after eren

    • @themanager8688
      @themanager8688 4 года назад +5

      Just started acc bothering to watch the quality and efficiency of my materials
      U can never go wrong with
      Faber Castell
      Prismacolor
      We don't have much nice stuff available where I am tho but found a way to make it work with stuff from these two😂😂

  • @mayurpatil7065
    @mayurpatil7065 6 лет назад +306

    Your don't side is still 10 times better than my current one!!

    • @delicatemindarts9786
      @delicatemindarts9786 6 лет назад +2

      mayur patil what I'm sayin man. What I'm sayin. And then she said like half an hour. Well alright then. Guess I got a long way to go.

    • @anannyadutta1
      @anannyadutta1 6 лет назад

      mayur patil true😹

    • @goodgreen20
      @goodgreen20 6 лет назад

      nice one mayur patil

    • @Kev27RS
      @Kev27RS 6 лет назад

      mayur patil
      Observing, patience and time is the key!! 👍

    • @HemoManic
      @HemoManic 6 лет назад

      mayur patil same even though it kind of looks like the little girl in hereditary

  • @nephildevil
    @nephildevil 6 лет назад +114

    Realism takes time, and I want to get things done quickly haha yeah that's basically why I probably always be more of a sketcher My attention span is about an hour at most :p then I'm off to do something else

  • @sandramorrison4811
    @sandramorrison4811 2 года назад +2

    Lil Miss Gomez is SOOOOO PRETTY!
    You are an AMAZING ARTIST!!!

  • @arom1367
    @arom1367 4 года назад +1491

    The eyes in the “don’t”went 👁. 👁

  • @driesketels
    @driesketels 5 лет назад +51

    There's something special about a face... The face is the mirror of the mind, the eyes of people reflect the desires of their heart... I guess life is a reflection of what we allow ourselves to see... eyes are very similar to paintings in that regard, eyes often times say more then words can... if you can say it in words there's no need to paint it...
    Always love to see other artists at work. Great video.

  • @Aquarellina
    @Aquarellina 6 лет назад +139

    at my art school they didn't allow us to use an eraser or blend with fingers. Everybody can achieve a soft transition with a finger smudge but being able to do it by controlling pressure on your pen is something much more difficult and requires more practice, which at the end helps you a lot. As for the eraser, this makes you very conscious of your moves and actually frees you to see all of the lines you created so just like watercolor forces you to think out your move.

    • @gracesprojects6953
      @gracesprojects6953 6 лет назад +5

      Aquarellina how the heck do you get it smooth without smudging??? Even if you go lightly surely there’s lines

    • @viviennart
      @viviennart 6 лет назад +1

      They taught us not to smudge. You can do smooth gradients with various graphite pencils (H and B series) if you are patient enough.

    • @grayish2145
      @grayish2145 6 лет назад +7

      teaching somebody to not use erasers is a terrible idea, unless it's a practice or a study. as for smudging, only use that to put in big blocks of large very light color in my opinion

    • @AngelGonzalez-wn8ws
      @AngelGonzalez-wn8ws 6 лет назад +1

      *cough* blending tool *cough*

    • @nathaniabriseis5971
      @nathaniabriseis5971 6 лет назад +1

      i use watercolor alot and do realism (which im bad at) and yes what you said is true

  • @redghost3170
    @redghost3170 3 года назад +61

    If I could do the “don’t,” I would be a very talented artist to my friends and family.

    • @liveglimpse3923
      @liveglimpse3923 3 года назад

      ......... ruclips.net/video/8l9_KAMduWQ/видео.html

    • @rangenard
      @rangenard 3 года назад

      hahahahahaha

  • @oopsallbecki
    @oopsallbecki 5 лет назад +55

    I don't necessarily wanna do hyper-realism but i do want to make my pieces way more realistic than they are atm so this was really helpful!

  • @purplenugget8466
    @purplenugget8466 5 лет назад +950

    Me: tries to draw a portrait
    *Looks back at the reference*
    *Looks back at the drawing*
    Me: ...... BURN IT WITH FIRE

  • @ssr8555
    @ssr8555 5 лет назад +335

    "Don't blend with your finger, don't go back and forth on the hair, don't do outlines"
    Me, thinking how I do all these things: "shit"
    To my defense, it was on a semi-realistic drawing-

    • @mikuenjoyerXD
      @mikuenjoyerXD 5 лет назад +31

      I used to think in 5th grade that I was a genius when I figured out that you could smudge pencil graphite with your finger lol

    • @funnycat1333
      @funnycat1333 5 лет назад +5

      @@mikuenjoyerXD same😂

    • @santiagogasmin8363
      @santiagogasmin8363 4 года назад +1

      let's cry together.

  • @Uespenox
    @Uespenox 4 года назад +9

    I followed this tutorial and my drawing instantly got better. I LOVE YOU FOR THIS

  • @soliipsiism
    @soliipsiism 6 лет назад +301

    I saw the first pic and was like Kirsty whats happened? Then she put the AMAZING SG over it and I was like, GIRL YOU NEVER DISAPPOINT

    • @soliipsiism
      @soliipsiism 6 лет назад +1

      Second:) comment and like

    • @mrsmalvi4612
      @mrsmalvi4612 6 лет назад +4

      You didn't see the thumb nail? 😅

  • @bradknock3035
    @bradknock3035 6 лет назад +1649

    That moment when your masterpiece looks worse than her donts😂😂😂

    • @vaishrox66
      @vaishrox66 6 лет назад +6

      Bradknock same

    • @aziyajan
      @aziyajan 6 лет назад +2

      😂😂😂

    • @nkosipapa1105
      @nkosipapa1105 6 лет назад +1

      😆😆😆😆😆

    • @AnuRadha-lg7mm
      @AnuRadha-lg7mm 6 лет назад +1

      Lol 😂😂

    • @nika_v_187
      @nika_v_187 6 лет назад +8

      Bradknock same I’m realizing how shitty the pieces that I thought were good actually are

  • @bryanrimmer461
    @bryanrimmer461 3 года назад +1

    Never could draw then watch your video so I give it a try and was amazed what I achieved now I have a new hobby..thank you

  • @aubreetanner9543
    @aubreetanner9543 6 лет назад +453

    When I draw faces, they usually turn out okay, but they never look like my reference. How do I make my faces look more accurate?

    • @cloudia8604
      @cloudia8604 6 лет назад +15

      Aubree Tanner OMG sameeeeeee

    • @WildVee
      @WildVee 5 лет назад +140

      I would recommend really trying to take your time when sketching, and measuring everything out (can be with a ruler, your pencil, even your finger) before you move onto the coloring/shading. This can take a lot of your time, but don't be discouraged. I always rushed my sketches and called it a day until I realized that was my mistake. That, and practice a lot, because with each new drawing, you learn to observe more accurately. Good luck!

    • @joeblankenship377
      @joeblankenship377 5 лет назад +55

      Grid method is really helpful. Lay a grid over your reference image(in photoshop or GIMP or something), then draw a light grid on your paper, and just take it a square at a time. It makes getting basic outlines, shapes, and proportions so much easier. Then you can just erase the grid on your paper and spend more time on detail and shading, etc...

    • @notlemon9184
      @notlemon9184 5 лет назад +3

      Same

    • @tiredcat6653
      @tiredcat6653 5 лет назад +1

      sammeeeeee!! 😩

  • @panicbrendon
    @panicbrendon 6 лет назад +137

    Even your 'dont' side looks better than anything I've drawn 😬

    • @vaishrox66
      @vaishrox66 6 лет назад

      BrenDUN Urie Yeah, tell me about it!

    • @evanswny
      @evanswny 6 лет назад

      says everyone..

  • @destinycarvalho
    @destinycarvalho 6 лет назад +379

    Another big mistake people make when drawing from reference is that they draw what they think they see, rather than what is actually there.

    • @avingantir1789
      @avingantir1789 5 лет назад +4

      I do agree

    • @sarahebert2510
      @sarahebert2510 5 лет назад +38

      my art teacher actually made us do an exercise where we couldn't see what we were drawing

    • @rosannaamato7842
      @rosannaamato7842 5 лет назад +30

      ᗪ乇丂ㄒ丨几ㄚ right, just like when they are drawing items that are sitting right in front of them. They draw what they remember, not what they’re seeing.

    • @saturn_stars
      @saturn_stars 5 лет назад +4

      @@sarahebert2510 wait wha, how? I want my teacher to do that 😂

    • @sarahebert2510
      @sarahebert2510 5 лет назад +27

      @@saturn_stars she cut the sides off of a shoe box, and made us draw our other hand just from what we were seeing. we couldn't look at the paper we were drawing on. the practices turned out like shit, but once we learned how to draw without staring at what we were sketching, they turned out great.

  • @bongkem2723
    @bongkem2723 4 года назад +4

    omg, that's so impressive !! the values change is so small yet you draw them perfectly !!!

  • @tartagliasmilk
    @tartagliasmilk 6 лет назад +203

    The don'ts are roasting me 😂😂😂

  • @hrishikeshsaikia476
    @hrishikeshsaikia476 4 года назад +32

    For the proportion just try to use a photo editing software and use the grid lines ..Then draw the grid lines lightly in your paper now you can just fill the individual grid boxes and you will have a near perfect proportionate rough sketch ...Now you just erase the grid lines and start adding details

    • @MagicBot.1570
      @MagicBot.1570 2 года назад +5

      That's clever! I'm assuming that's what the "grid technique" she mentions is. I'll try that thanks

    • @Sha-Ayo
      @Sha-Ayo Год назад

      ​@@MagicBot.1570thank you, that's what I've been missing

  • @alexreid43
    @alexreid43 5 лет назад +16

    I used to have a lot of trouble with getting an accurate sketch. I would always do it freehand and it took me at least an hour just to get a small, somewhat basic accurate sketch. Now, I don't use the grid method, but I find just simply measuring for perspectives really helps speed up the process. For example, I will measure with my pencil how the distance between the eyes compares with the size of the eyes.
    When I was a beginning artist, I loved these videos, they helped me out so much in learning how to achieve realism. Now that I really know the basics, I've been able to find my own ways of doing it, a more sort of stylistic approach. For example, the only pencil I use is an HB mechanical pencil. I love to just sit and curl up with a blanket and sketch realistic fanart. I find it super relaxing. I also don't use any sort of blending tools. I find I have so much more control and get a much cleaner look when I don't. I think this definitely depends on how well you can control your pencil and also the kind of face you're doing. For example, I love doing elderly people because I find wrinkles a lot of fun, but with younger women, there is more smooth surface, makes for more of a need for blending.

  • @rosexx8182
    @rosexx8182 3 года назад +1

    This video has been so helpful to me... every time i feel a bit off with shading the face or the eyes or just drawing a realistic face, i refer back to this video... It's just "The One"...i hope other people feel the same way i feel about this video...it's super helpful...i will of course recommend to anyone hoping to learn how to draw realistic faces😊❤️❤️

  • @bellalobo4177
    @bellalobo4177 5 лет назад +123

    Me: finally happy with my drawings
    Watches video: wait what

  • @elliemccalmon3467
    @elliemccalmon3467 4 года назад +1127

    Everyone: This might be a useful video!
    Me: iS tHaT sElEnA gOmEz

  • @bitesizesnaccc
    @bitesizesnaccc 6 лет назад +10

    I'm a self taught artist , been practicing realism since I was 13, glad to know I'm following all of the "do's" 😊 I'm still working on perfecting proportions though, I don't like tracing, I feel more accomplished with the finished result if I've drawn out a sketch beforehand, just takes practice

    • @ashnikfield4224
      @ashnikfield4224 6 лет назад +1

      Same I am self taught too! I found out my own ways to make exact proportions and sketches, and I followed all the do's in this and got amazing results! So glad she made this :D

    • @salomenaartsandedits3604
      @salomenaartsandedits3604 6 лет назад

      Ive been doing realisim for 3-4 years im also self taught

  • @MissKrisstt
    @MissKrisstt 4 года назад +5

    this helped me alot!
    i found some don'ts what i do too, so this helped me to improve myself! and it gives me the motivation to do art, because i never know HOW to do these realistic drawings. i'm a realistic art lover and i do it myself, i have been doing that for past 2 years. and now i really understand that only by trying and being patient i can do something i want!

  • @31mightymouse
    @31mightymouse 5 лет назад +8

    I was never good at drawing, lots of stick figures and what not. But after the military I needed something to occupy my broken mind and drawing became ther solution. Im still miles away from being good at drawing and everybody in this comment section is undoubtedly leagues better than me lol, I don't deny that one bit. But I love these tutorials and I try my best to replicate them. I will keep giving er hell and hopefully one day I'll be almost as good as you, color not included in that goal as adding colors really really confuses me. Anyway, thank you for this wonderful tutorial.

  • @luciolelyrics3311
    @luciolelyrics3311 5 лет назад +103

    One time I tried drawing a person and I showed my friend when I was finished. She asked me where I learned how to draw such a good blob fish.

  • @hannahengland9431
    @hannahengland9431 5 лет назад +10

    As an artists I trace myself to safe time and it helps a lot and like you said if your busy you don’t have time too draw something out all the way but you still have to fill it all in using layers and I think this is something all artist can agree on

  • @wallofgreatest94
    @wallofgreatest94 3 года назад +4

    In easy way shading is the key to realism and even light perspective can turn your sketch into a masterpiece

  • @00nyoom
    @00nyoom 4 года назад +4

    You've really emphasised how important it is to take your time, congrats and thanks

  • @oliviarock3127
    @oliviarock3127 6 лет назад +7

    A very good way to improve base drawing skill is doing quick timed drawings, focusing most on the angles, shapes, and overall form rather than the fine details. This will be frustrating for some, easy for others, but will in the long run help most with drawing things in proportion. (I’m a 3rd year (illustration) at an accredited university for art and design. one of the biggest things they’ll teach you is this method when learning to draw).
    In this tutorial one thing to remember when rendering, don’t focus on one area, it can mess up the shadows/highlights in other locations in the drawing, the best thing to do is shade in bulk, do your darkest darks together, lightest lights (save for last usually) together. This rendering method is also much faster than sectioning off areas while shading.

  • @inactive-accountuse4575
    @inactive-accountuse4575 6 лет назад +12

    I am am a good drawer when I was younger I always saw the negative in my drawing but you.....you made me see the positive side so thank you so much for helping me see the positive
    (I'm an 11 year old)

  • @nerdiartz6905
    @nerdiartz6905 2 года назад +4

    amazing video! another important point is that you need good paper for lots of shading, it makes it a lot easier

  • @hectortrejochavez6107
    @hectortrejochavez6107 6 лет назад +58

    Even when you make "donts" . Look so good. Everyones style is diferent indeed. But i still follow you. I want to draw like you... even if i dont reach THAT LEVEL.

    • @nou257
      @nou257 6 лет назад +9

      you will reach that level dude, practicing all the time and not losing hope is key. it really just take years to be really good at realism.

    • @lanaisagoddess4388
      @lanaisagoddess4388 6 лет назад

      You will

    • @JaneValentine007
      @JaneValentine007 6 лет назад +1

      Hope you still haven't given up yet! ;3
      You'll get there!!!

  • @nou257
    @nou257 6 лет назад +202

    i still don't suggest gridding/tracing method (especially the tracing one) because freehanding your drawings will help you improve faster, practicing accuracy and proportions is way more important than shading/rendering. im good at shading/rendering but oftentimes my drawings are slightly different from the actual photo, and that is because i focused more on shading it rather than the initial outlines. plus i feel much more accomplished drawing in freehand because im definitely learning something new and becoming better at being a self-critique. this is of course just my personal opinion

    • @nou257
      @nou257 6 лет назад +34

      if you are a professional artist who happens to have many commissions and have not much time, then tracing/gridding method is essential, but if you are a beginner artist then i suggest focusing on the outline first than shading/rendering. if your proportions seem correct, then thats where you start focusing on shading your drawings.

    • @coryjames4134
      @coryjames4134 6 лет назад +7

      While I agree tracing isn't always the best, painters prefer to transfer the basic contour cause they're painting, not drawing. I think it depends on what you wish to paint or draw, if you're practicing shading then i think to focus on that it's okay to transfer or if you draw/paint from photographs but if you want to draw or paint from life then you should learn how to draw the contours and such

    • @kerrywoodrow6272
      @kerrywoodrow6272 6 лет назад +3

      For me, and it seems you as well, freehand drawing is preferred because I am and (as it appears from your comment) you are currently focusing on our drawing skills. Once I start focusing on my shading and highlights I most definitely will use whatever technical tools available to help lay down the sketch so that I can spend more time perfecting those skills.
      I do agree that we should regularly return to freehand just to keep our hard learned skills up (mind you, those skills are still in their infant stage for me and it seems like it will be a very long time before they are mature enough to be comfortably put away for me to concentrate on something else).

    • @ruchiagarwal6212
      @ruchiagarwal6212 6 лет назад +1

      Elisa Shay is

    • @yasminrei
      @yasminrei 6 лет назад +8

      I definitely agree with you - if you don’t learn how to freehand draw, what are you gonna do if someone pays you to draw them while they sit right in front of you? Are you gonna put your paper on their face and trace them?

  • @Gail-gs9jd
    @Gail-gs9jd 4 года назад +8

    A great great tip I find super helpful is putting paper over a tablet,of a celeb or person you want to draw and outline there proportions,then that way afterwards it’s easier to shade and make it look a little more realistic,make sure when doing this though don’t press to hard on the paper cause it will scratch the screen and to turn the brightness up!

  • @belleartnatics2110
    @belleartnatics2110 3 года назад +8

    Thank you so much for the do's and don't tutorial in drawing.i learned a lot from you,also for the great technique and materials to use.thank you for inspiring us you are one a the great artist I've been watching on.👍😊

  • @juanmacias4854
    @juanmacias4854 5 лет назад +7

    Passed up on the most inportant part of drawing, getting the proportions right. Can you show how to line up facial features and determine proportions on eyes, nose & lips? How to proportion the skull and shape? I believe that the foundation to having a great wire figure from which you start shading as you did on the correct drawing is what can help beginners most.

    • @narinder7043
      @narinder7043 2 года назад +2

      Exactly what I was thinking. If as a beginner I can’t do the sketching correctly then why should I worry about shafing

  • @hqniya2080
    @hqniya2080 5 лет назад +125

    Not gonna lie, even the "bad picture" looks better than any drawing I could ever do.

  • @cookingandcaking9761
    @cookingandcaking9761 6 лет назад +850

    The don’t side is literally me😂😭

    • @nullhypothesis2735
      @nullhypothesis2735 6 лет назад +2

      Same...lol.

    • @goddess_ofchaos
      @goddess_ofchaos 6 лет назад +1

      hahhaha same

    • @bluefilmsbt6094
      @bluefilmsbt6094 6 лет назад +13

      CookingAndCaking You mean the don’t side is literally your face or how you draw?

    • @goddess_ofchaos
      @goddess_ofchaos 6 лет назад +37

      BlueFilmsBT uhm I think it's obvious that the don't side is how we draw, not how we look.. 'cause that would be very sad

    • @user-jq1xm6vh4w
      @user-jq1xm6vh4w 6 лет назад +10

      Lol no, the don’ts side is how I wish I could draw

  • @laurasalo6160
    @laurasalo6160 3 года назад +2

    When I was really young, I was obsessed with horses (who wasn't right lol) and I used to trace them.
    Over the years, the shape of their bodies became engrained in my mind, and in my hand.
    Now I can sketch them freehand really well. I was too young to know that was a technique, however it really helped.

  • @calvinhoward2407
    @calvinhoward2407 5 лет назад +5

    i wish i had seen this 50 yrs. ago. your a great teacher.god bless all

  • @attheranch873
    @attheranch873 6 лет назад +20

    Excellent tips! What I especially like is that you’re breaking the rules that I learned in art school👍 and it’s working out beautifully for you. I draw well, but this is going to take my drawings up a notch or two. Thank you so much!!
    After reading the comments on here I’m a little surprised that there’s anyone that complains about your video, as if it’s your responsibility to make sure they learn absolutely everything that there is to learn about drawing. This is as valuable as an entire art class, and it’s free content! Your work is excellent and I appreciate your generosity in posting these types of videos ❤️❤️❤️
    I just subscribed😀

  • @yungkhaleng640
    @yungkhaleng640 5 лет назад +41

    Listening straight 27 minutes ... I realised I'm this interested in drawing

    • @Ella-cg4ir
      @Ella-cg4ir 4 года назад +1

      Me too..i think imma start learning drawing now

  • @kks5831
    @kks5831 2 года назад +1

    This video impressed me and the don'ts were just same mistakes I was doing in my arts ....
    By looking at the do's the drew a masterpiece drawing that look just like the refference image.... I was proud and all my family and friends praised it and me ... I really thank you ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @GodzillaGoesGaga
    @GodzillaGoesGaga 5 лет назад +7

    This is gold! I'm going to have to watch this a few times as you covered so much information. Thanks.

  • @yodasthickass1162
    @yodasthickass1162 4 года назад +364

    When the '' bad '' drawing looks better than the best you ever made :
    .......

    • @yara4486
      @yara4486 4 года назад +11

      practice makes perfect, don’t expect to come out of the womb with perfect art skills

    • @coffeephrog4339
      @coffeephrog4339 4 года назад +7

      You do Gacha, of course your "art" will suck.

    • @Ella-jh3kx
      @Ella-jh3kx 4 года назад +11

      @@coffeephrog4339 really? I know some of the gacha community is cringe, but some of them can draw. They are like any other artist, they just are also a part of the gacha community.
      This is the one of the reasons why artists are so awful to their work. I hope that each cup of coffee and tea you drink for the rest of your sad, miserable life filled with absolute degeneracy, each have a a disgusting, horrible, soft turd from your crazy aunt in it so you can get even a hint of the absolute bullshit that you're spreading around the internet.

    • @oikawatoru2018
      @oikawatoru2018 4 года назад +5

      Ella
      omg periodt

    • @Star-ue6qn
      @Star-ue6qn 4 года назад +4

      My best human I've ever drawn
      O
      /|\
      /\

  • @dougeike
    @dougeike 4 года назад +4

    Good tutorial. It's all about the time you put into the drawing. Knowing that the "do" drawing took seven hours to complete is extremely helpful. My portraits are taking me around three hours, and I'm beginning to see why it takes time to achieve a likeness. Thanks!

  • @Emily-the_funny_guys
    @Emily-the_funny_guys 3 года назад +1

    The don'ts very still looks amazing

  • @irishandelraad5086
    @irishandelraad5086 4 года назад +66

    I always feel like I’m cheating if I’m tracing so I’m trying to get accurate sketches, but it usually takes forever to get it good. I’m gonna try the grid tool I think.

    • @irishandelraad5086
      @irishandelraad5086 4 года назад +2

      CakCakePARTY ye I get that, though I’ve figured that the grid tool helps me a lot. I’m gonna use tracing to practice I think. Hopefully that’ll help me too :)

    • @evabaumannautorin
      @evabaumannautorin 4 года назад +2

      I have taken up drawing again after a 20-year break - and no, I'm not ashamed of tracing. I've done 10 portraits so far and I notice tracing and shading helps me to learn about proportions. I totally enjoy shading, I hate getting outlines wrong, and really, I don't care about "cheating" as long as I'm having fun and improving. I just don't want to waste time on something that I can't do well. I will get better and try it again eventually, but maybe after 50 more portraits ;)

    • @mirjamdominicus
      @mirjamdominicus 3 года назад +1

      @@evabaumannautorin can you explain to me what tracing is?
      I draw and try to make a grid but that’s still difficult for me😇

    • @evabaumannautorin
      @evabaumannautorin 3 года назад +1

      @@mirjamdominicus Tracing is if you put the original underneath and either very thin, see-through tracing paper on top or put both against a window or tracing frame that is lighted from below. I usually trace with tracing paper from a computer image, then reinforce the lines with dark marker, then stick both up on a window or on a tracing frame and draw the outlines that shimmer through on my thick paper. Just the outlines, and at least the proportions are right.

    • @mirjamdominicus
      @mirjamdominicus 3 года назад +1

      @@evabaumannautorin now I know what is is, thanks. I never try that before and I don’t think it will work because of thickness of the drawing paper.

  • @dejavu8086
    @dejavu8086 5 лет назад +110

    “The eyes looks so different”
    *me while wearing my glasses* Owo

  • @stephenyap6748
    @stephenyap6748 5 лет назад +62

    Will i improve?🤦😭
    Bcuz i haven't drawn anything for 3years and my hands are shaky🤦😭

    • @Juatafriggggg
      @Juatafriggggg 5 лет назад +12

      It's fine if you haven't drawn anything for a bit, actually when I leave drawing for a bit and come back it looks like I actually improve. And shaky hand are nothing to stop you from drawing.

    • @colmivers
      @colmivers 5 лет назад +4

      Christy brown painted with his left foot, you'll be fine

    • @anadiaz8813
      @anadiaz8813 4 года назад +1

      Itsme_Yap Stephen I think you could get better or worse but since you’re watching this video, I think you’ll improve🙂 everything’s a learning process and you’ll get there!

    • @sshinjm
      @sshinjm 4 года назад

      Same

  • @megan1868
    @megan1868 4 года назад +3

    I LOVE THIS VIDEO, IT WAS WHAT LITERALLY GOT ME INTO ART AND IM THINKING OF PICKING GCSE ART NOW, I WATCHED THIS VIDEO LIKE 2 YEARS AGO

  • @saadr1an
    @saadr1an 5 лет назад +387

    Printer: am I a joke to you!?!

    • @lucyfilia5341
      @lucyfilia5341 4 года назад +34

      Talent: yes 😭😭

    • @kajalvinit557
      @kajalvinit557 4 года назад +8

      No point of watching the vid with that mindset

    • @JxSTICK
      @JxSTICK 4 года назад +5

      @@kajalvinit557 It's a joke

    • @Ladlee921
      @Ladlee921 4 года назад +1

      yes

    • @無題6376
      @無題6376 4 года назад

      @@Ladlee921 what.

  • @purpleboye_
    @purpleboye_ 5 лет назад +274

    "I spent like three hours shading your upper lip"

    • @ashnikfield4224
      @ashnikfield4224 5 лет назад +9

      I love that movie 😂😂😂😂 GIMME SOME OF YOUR TOTS

    • @prestonmcalhany6534
      @prestonmcalhany6534 5 лет назад +7

      TrIsHa

    • @quintessential8361
      @quintessential8361 5 лет назад +2

      What’s happening

    • @corneliualdea1354
      @corneliualdea1354 4 года назад +1

      True purpleboye, shading takes hours because it doesn't look right at first but when you are a professional artist you don't have to worry about how much you shade your drawing, so true shading is hard

    • @estherthebester
      @estherthebester 4 года назад

      😂 yess

  • @missladee4510
    @missladee4510 6 лет назад +117

    Um excuse me but you're so talented your "don't" girl is still really pretty and somewhat decently shaded lol your "don't" is better than most other people's "do's" lol

    • @missladee4510
      @missladee4510 6 лет назад +2

      wow thanks for this information of which i was already 100% aware. For someone who is lightning, you're not very quick

    • @missladee4510
      @missladee4510 6 лет назад

      I'm sorry, do most other people enjoy being educated by random toddlers on the internet? or is it really just me who doesn't like it?

    • @missladee4510
      @missladee4510 6 лет назад

      exactly. which is why you should have stayed silent

    • @hamiltrash-_-9995
      @hamiltrash-_-9995 6 лет назад +12

      miss ladee hun, have you ever thought you were the one who should shut it?

    • @missladee4510
      @missladee4510 6 лет назад

      well no, seeing as i don't go around teaching people impromptu lectures and teaching their own comments back to them seeing as I'm not a self important twat. i dont even talk to people i don't know anything about online. all i did was leave a compliment here and then go about my day. its not my fault some toddler came and decided to amuse herself by playing sand castles with my comment. i don't see why i should not leave compliments on videos i like. so no, i never fucking considered it. does that answer your question? But maybe you on the other hand should crack open a case of ice cold Shut It. Perhaps I can help you by employing the Block feature. You're welcome XD

  • @grantgrant4395
    @grantgrant4395 2 года назад +2

    The don’t one is legit everything I do, and after watching this video I finally realized those don’t portraits I have made look like deformed versions of me. So thank you very much for making this video. It actually helped me improve.

  • @tevinbullock9030
    @tevinbullock9030 5 лет назад +6

    The video is amazing.
    I like finished a real life drawing within 3 hours but it looks more realistic
    By the way im a young artist, im only 15
    The video gave me new ideas and help, i will apply it in my next drawing thank you

  • @jthomas9671
    @jthomas9671 4 года назад +3

    Chock full of good tips! I am guilty of many of the donts and gives me a different perspective on how to go about my next attempt. Also hair has always been a frustrating challenge for me, so I'm eager to try again after watching this vid!!
    Well done! Thank you for not rambling and keeping on point throughout. Didn't seem like 27 minutes at all!! Valuable information!

  • @sashragesh7791
    @sashragesh7791 4 года назад +3

    Love kirsty your tutorials are outstanding...i ve got improvements love you soo much💓💓....

  • @blakeborges6753
    @blakeborges6753 4 года назад +1

    Preach Gurl! Your word is gospel! Anyone who watches this video and takes your advice will definitely become a more professional drawist ☺️😃.

  • @PraveenKumar-kz1kf
    @PraveenKumar-kz1kf 3 года назад +7

    Very useful for self taught artists like me💫thank you 💜❤

    • @surajPRASAD-vj4vp
      @surajPRASAD-vj4vp 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/pqwb1qtsw2o/видео.html✍️✍️.

  • @PaulaJoW
    @PaulaJoW 6 лет назад +8

    Excellent tutorial! Thank you for saying it's ok to trace. Sometimes art advice can be so rigid when it comes to drawing, painting, materials, tools, etc.

  • @nicolemadjo6610
    @nicolemadjo6610 4 года назад +12

    I feel bad when I trace because people will ask me "did you trace it?" And when I'll say "yes" they will think I'm not talented. They don't know all the work that comes after tracing. They just think once you trace, your drawing will surely look good. While it's not the case. There's much more work to be done after tracing.

    • @princessalcansare7711
      @princessalcansare7711 4 года назад +2

      Yeah,, and those peeps will tell you that "Oh my gosh, don't you know that is stealing?" :(((

    • @LIIantonioIIL
      @LIIantonioIIL 4 года назад +1

      Tracing can help you alot. Don't feel bad. Use what techniques work the best for you. ❤🙌🏼

    • @nicolemadjo6610
      @nicolemadjo6610 4 года назад

      @@LIIantonioIIL ok thanks

  • @radmamadread
    @radmamadread 2 месяца назад

    i’m only a beginner, but aspire to realism. i’ve learned so much from this video! can’t wait to watch more!