Design Flaws of the Fire-Lite BG-10

[@hamzahassan7730]

I believe they also have issues with false activations where when an object hits the pull it activates

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

That’s right, I mentioned that in the video

[@filmer765]

My dad’s gym used to have several BG-10’s. Now, only one remains, as the rest have been replaced with a 270-SPO, a Siemens MS-151, a couple of BG-12L’s, and an ESL RMS-1T.

[@Plant20-12]

The 90s have the best alarms

[@MatthewKelley1206]

The firelite bg-10 kinda reminds me of the old firelite bg6 just dual action same kind of design

[@16BitDoggo]

My church had some bg12s in the main part, but in the original room(s) on a separate panel, they had bg10s. Also the alarms in the main part are spectralert advances and l-series chime/strobes. The just had a replacement of the panel and added some chimes. The last modification was in 2003, so it needed some work. The main panel kept going into intermittent trouble, for some reason.

[@andrewbroughton6014]

This was the predecessor to the BG-12 series pull station

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

Correct

[@BlueThunderboltsiren]

I just added a NBG-10L to my collection today. Thankfully it works well, but it takes a while to reset. I have the one with the screw at the front (The one at 1:42).

[@user-nx7fr3qp3v]

The Middle School has a BG-10 in the Cafeteria, its Still there.

[@nics-systems-electric]

BG 12 series has a problem too with when you pull it occasionally the handle will not flip the switch inside and will be locked in the pulled position but won’t actually flip the switch

[@joeycaridi3030]

Only the older style BG-12/NBG-12 series where it doesn't have the "By Honeywell" text and just shows the company's name that's part of Honeywell (like Fire-Lite)

[@nics-systems-electric]

@@joeycaridi3030 new ones too

[@mpanimates]

@@nics-systems-electric I have a fake bg 12 and I haven’t had the problem so it might be better to keep it

[@joelevators9667]

I remember seeing your high school system and that happened

[@nics-systems-electric]

@@joelevators9667 It’s happened multiple times at that school and I’ve had it at other buildings too

[@user-nx7fr3qp3v]

I Got One Yesterday. I Like Mine.

[@FIREalarmGuy2023]

2:27 OOF jumpscare

[@NJMoo3652]

I love the beyond the code reference lol

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

Toasted

[@Skulldozer25]

That ending tho.

[@jzzhang726]

Bg10 is kinda crappy tbh but so COOL they are so crispy when you pull them and I just got a KitKat ad talking about how crispy they are lol nice vid

[@GETINLOSER]

I have a FireLite hex version of this. Can't find a date on it but it's 100% intact and not cracked! How much do they generally go for? I might let it go if the price is right if anyone's interested!

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

Not that much. I’d pay 15 for one max

[@tornadochasingsiege]

my school is literally filled with these

[@carterkoning1214]

Where can I get That pull Station

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

eBay

[@carterkoning1214]

@@FireAlarmDude5967 ok

[@firealarm8]

I always wondered why the fire letting looked so weird.

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

I like the lettering

[@firesign89]

That off kind of scared me

[@firesign89]

Oof

[@firealarm8]

EST Genesis has the issue with the screws too

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

I haven’t had that issue or seen it before. Only with the candela/wattage selection tabs

[@NyxKemo]

Main issue with Genesis is the shock hazard for models with xenon strobes

[@johndeerefan725]

I think the BG-10 is fragile enough I saw a alarm inspection video and they activated a BG-10 and it fell off the wall and broke into pieces.

[@soda_coir7595]

Wait which vid I want to see that so bad 😆

[@user-kn8hr5ff7r]

2:26 OOF!

[@mpanimates]

Whenever I test my alarm, I don’t wear hearing protection, yet I’m stupid enough to put my ear next to the horn

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

That’s pretty stupid

[@mpanimates]

Well, I used too

[@mpanimates]

I have no idea why I don’t wear ear protection though, I’m still at an age 8, 9, or 10, where most kids cover their ears, I’m not one of them, also, my school has wheelock alarms, and FOS alarms, and faraday bells and simplex bells that will ring after a fire drill is over

[@mpanimates]

@@FireAlarmDude5967 You are one of my favorite alarm RUclipsrs, and yes, but I stopped putting my ear up to it a month ago, also I put my ear up to it when I made only the strobe work, so I just wanted to hear the strobe clicking, but then I turned the horn back on and put my ear up to it and… THSI LOOKS LIKE THE PERFECT TIME TO SCREAM A THE TOP OF MY (CENSORED) LUNGS, so yeah I never did it again (Sorry for all the information, but you are my favorite fire alarm RUclipsr ever!)

[@mpanimates]

@@FireAlarmDude5967 Also I’m pretty sure this is the first time you’ve ever replied to me

[@BlueThunderboltsiren]

2:27 OOF

[@alexandersalarms5380]

FOR REAL. I literally pulled a BG-10 during an inspection and it FELL and BROKE. SHATTERING into a million pieces! (I have a video on it)

[@achannelwithnopurpose1977]

Thats just sad. Come on honeywell, you can do better than that (and thank god they did) 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@alexandersalarms5380]

@@achannelwithnopurpose1977 Honeywell ruined notifier and Gamewell - FCI. Do not like working on such systems.

[@achannelwithnopurpose1977]

@@alexandersalarms5380 I personally like Notifier, but Honeywell is kinda doodoo. Simplex is where its at. Simplex offers wayyy more than Honeywell and its built to last. Its expensive but worth it, if u ask me

[@jzzhang726]

I saw it lol

[@IDKMali]

Very helpful

[@Firealarmcollectorperson]

Interesting.

[@soda_coir7595]

Style +80
Reliability -67

[@patriciasalgado3862]

I have bg10 in all of my schools

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

Neat

[@achannelwithnopurpose1977]

Bg 10 has quite the bad functionality reputation, but not as much as the EST 2 or 3 fire alarm panel.

[@alexandersalarms5380]

EST2 and EST3's work fine it's usually poor QC or programming, very low bid installs and mostly at schools

[@achannelwithnopurpose1977]

@@alexandersalarms5380 Every EST system i’ve come across had something wrong with it. The one at my old middle school was the worst though. It constantly went into alarm for no particular reason whatsoever and at one point got so bad, the school just used the false alarms for fire drills. When me and the school did get to trip it, the system took a VERY long time to trip and at one point I thought a pull station was broken because it didn’t even trip until 30-40 seconds later. Thats only the tip of the iceberg with this particular system, and it was, in fact, actually installed properly which is the biggest offender for me. The only good EST products are the genesis series, io series, and the newest of the newest SIGA series.

[@alexandersalarms5380]

@@achannelwithnopurpose1977 Yeah as I said, it's usually schools because they are low bid installs and crappy electrical companies will always do quick, fast, poor work and leave it up to inspectors and other companies to fix what they screwed up. Not EST's fault, installers fault and poor QC.

[@achannelwithnopurpose1977]

@@alexandersalarms5380 Still have seen bad EST in other places, but yeah I definitely agree with what you said on schools buying crappy EST from crappy dealers. The moral of the story: “Remember kids, don’t buy cheap fire protection!”.

[@alexandersalarms5380]

@@achannelwithnopurpose1977 EST is basically dollar store simplex, meant for cheap upgrades. EST Will do what simplex will do for you, but for a FRACTION of the price. Don't expect anything that good quality from EST to be honest. but it still works when needed.

[@The-creator-of-good-videos-15]

How did they get the designs so bad? Such a design fail.

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

It happens

[@The-creator-of-good-videos-15]

@@FireAlarmDude5967 Idk why.

[@FireAlarmDude5967]

@@The-creator-of-good-videos-15 Bad designs happen

[@The-creator-of-good-videos-15]

@@FireAlarmDude5967 I don’t know why they happen.

[@officialsimplexguy]

People can’t predict the future lmao. Many times developers don’t see how their product will hold up in the long run as certain components don’t age well and it isn’t their fault because again, they can’t predict the future. All they can do is take what didn’t work and improve upon it because that’s just human nature.

[@firesign89]

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