Wow Millie...What a conversational starter.. all I got is my pops built planes during the war... But, jokes aside... your pops is a bloody legend...Thank goodness they caught him cause I doubt he would have stopped...😁😁
Really hated how the working girls were not seen as human, almost like the community and police believed they deserved what they got. The anger and blame towards them when Sutcliffe's started targetting ANY woman was unreal.
That's exactly what I felt watching the documentary on Netflix! The population only got angry when he killed a "young and innocent" girl, as if the prostitutes deserved what they got. Unbelievable!
I couldn't agree more; fucking disgrace really. Working girls did what they did to put food on the table just like anybody else; it shows the narrow minded, ignorant attitude of the West Yorkshire Police, and sadly the general public too.
They found Maureen Long behind my parents work place and they all got questioned as they were working a night shift in a factory. Maureen survived the attack, barely.
I seen that area the other week, its got fencing around it ,a council tip,but then it was rough ground area, left is the layby he parked at, the high walls adjacent with caravan traveller homes still there.
These young women would be in their 50's, 60's and 70's + today. Their parents, children, partners, friends, the police and the journalists, the witnesses, the people who lived in those areas, would also be at the least middle aged or retired or no longer with us. Probably grandma's, looking forward to their retirement, etc. Those who were students, school leavers, at the beginning of their careers, etc would probably be looking back on the last 40-45 years, celebrating their 40th or 50th wedding anniversaries, etc etc. Everything stopped for them at the moment they came across that sick and evil predator who caused so much pain, devastation, sadness and fear. It's sobering to think how quickly the years fly by, and how quickly a lifetime or half of a lifetime can seem to pass. It also shows that a random meeting, a choice between going for a night out or to stay at home, taking a shortcut, etc can make the difference between crossing the path of a murderer and a completely normal night in a person's life.
Yes. Jean Jordan is one year older than me. She was about to get in a car with someone else when she saw the Yorkshire Ripper and decided to go with him instead.
He is reliably believed to have killed about 20 more victims before and during the period that he was officially active . The police work in this case was so bad , it was unforgivable. They should have caught him half a dozen times before his actual arrest !
not wrong there.. He had a handwritten letter in his lorry above his rear- view mirror saying something like "in this van is a man whose a genius and must be kept sleeping - don't wake him" Police had seen this and must have just thought he was harmless cause he weighed 85 lbs wet..
No it’s no reliably believed he killed 20,Keith Hellawell said he could’ve been responsible for another 10 attacks/murders that were all done within the County boundary.. most of those 10 were attacks,2 or 3 more he POSSIBLY did but not Realiably.
The Police worked hard but the leadership made some distress strategic errors. Remember computers were in their infancy and not available on this investigation, and no DNA, mobiles, CCTV or other forensic advantages like they have today.
@@starwood213 The biggest mistake apart from them focusing too much on the Newcastle accent and prostitute victims being the only victims was different police forces not sharing or comparing intelligence .All the dots were there but no one was able to join them. Police forces in different jurisdictions would not co-operate with one another and share vital information .Also consider that thousands of cases have been solved without those modern tools mentioned by good police work.
Richard Mortimer it’s in section GG R/C of Southern Cemetery.. around 15 metres from the front about in the middle of that section. Millward is section I R/C,middle of the section(there’s a sort of walkway in the middle and 1/4 of that section if your facing towards Princess Parkway(Millward now has a headstone but it’s not on her grave,her grave is next to it unmarked.
Glad that the focus is on the victims, and not on him. Also today is the day that he died, so hopefully today will give the surviving victims and the other victims' families Some sense of closure.
Can't understand why Jayne MacDonald took that route to walk home on her own in the early hours from the City Centre to Scott Hall Road through a dimly-lit warren of terraced houses and back alleys etc. slap bang in the middle of a notorious red-light district. She could have stuck to main roads where it was likely that she could have flagged down a passing taxi. And what was her male companion doing leaving a young girl of 16 all on her own in the centre of Leeds at that time of night during the height of the Ripper killing spree.
By the time Jayne was murdered she was only the fifth woman killed ( that isnt supposed to sound dismissive ) , one previous one had been in Bradford and although the three first ones were not that far from the area of Leeds was walking through they were all labelled as sex workers ( even though that might not have been fair or correct ) and the assumption was that the killer ( he wasnt yet known as the Ripper ) was only targeting prostitutes and not ' innocent women ' ( that is genuinely the way the police referring to the first victims as if they were partly to blame ) . Jayne probably thought she was safe as she wasnt a prostitute .
@@cathrynhesketh5703 Victim blaming is to suggest that MacDonald was in some way at fault for what happened to her. It is not advisable to walk alone through an unsafe, poorly lit area in the early hours of the morning but the fault for the murder lies solely with Sutcliffe.
It is chilling reading some of these comments about living near the murder sites at the time etc. It must have been so terrifying living in West Yorkshire / Manchester at the time. I'm sure people must have nightmares to this day. My sympathies to everyone who lived through this.
My poor mum had to walk through Roundhay Park for her night job and as a small child (8 years old in '78) I was terrified she would become his next victim. I can't remember if one of his victims had been found there at the time but yes, it really was a scary time.
He also had a few misses ...like on Abbey street in Derby...the bit that always got me was Wilma McCann's kids went looking for her on the streets in the early hours coz they knew where she worked and never came home at the usual time..they had no idea but feared the worsed...can you imagine having to tell them what happened to their mum?
On the first murder site at Prince Philip Playing Fields, one of the houses just over the fence is where Wilma McCann lived. I don't believe a word of what Sutcliffe said about killing her. He obviously gave her a lift and offered to 'walk' her up to the back gate of her house. Probably lagged behind her and attacked from behind her without her even realising. Forget all that stuff Sutcliffe told the police about her offering sex and lying down on the grass. He said that to put her in as bad a light as possible. Because of their attitude to 'prostitutes' West Yorkshire police lapped it up.
Put her in bad light🤔 you mean this despicable mother who left a 7 year old in charge of 3 younger kids,100% certain she thought she was going to fu@k that night whether on that slope or in her house and don’t give us this bullshit she was down on her luck as it was the 70’s,me and 3 brothers were brought up by just my mother but she didn’t resort to getting pissed instead of providing for us🤬
@@darrenfield7060 A very interesting response which, by the way, I do not thank you for. You refer to yourself as a child of the 70s - just like myself - and, in fact, it was not at all unusual for a mother to go out for an evening and leave the children in the care of the eldest. No-one saw anything wrong with that back then and it is a rather 'millenial' attitude that prevails today suggesting that children are, somehow, in danger inside their own home. With regard to your suggestion about Wilma's intentions that night - which I can't even bring myself to repeat - she was a single woman, she was separated from her husband and there is no reason why she shouldn't seek male company - if this had been a man exhibiting the same behaviour, he would have been considered a 'bit of a lad', nudge, nudge, wink wink. I don't like using modern buzz words like 'sexist' but there is no other way to describe your attitude on that issue. Was Wilma doing anything wrong in going out to the pub on a Friday evening along with 1000s of others in Leeds and, indeed, millions of others all over Great Britain - your opinion is that she WAS doing something wrong. If that was the case, and I don't concede the point for one moment, the normal response to such an issue would be a visit from the social services not to be murdered by some lunatic. It's a shame that this supposedly idyllic upbringing you had in the 70s didn't imbue you with any sense of decency, moderation in language, or respect for women.
@@mavisenderby8991 her kids were weeks from being taken off her for good,they’d already been taken off her twice before,lived in squalor whilst she pissed money up the wall..leaves a 7 year old in charge of 3 younger children 🤬🤬despicable mother
@@mavisenderby8991 I'm also a child of the 70s and agree with you 100 per cent. Devious cunning Sutcliffe was seeking to bolster up his defence and make his crimes more relatable. The need to instantly categorise Wilma as a good time girl did nothing to help solve the case or really engage the community. What if Sutcliffe actually socialised with Wilma that evening or on other occasions? Well never know but perhaps there could have been an earlier resolution with a more open minded categorisation of the crime.
2.45, what I don't understand is killing baraba at the very height of yrs he attacked, the police should've been patrolling manningham, city centre,uni area Leeds Rd, lsterdyke area, Clayton area all ov it, stopping cars, but he casually drove up past uni at 1am in morning at killed her yrds from houses,people having parties etc,. He was so lucky doing this,. With miss hill and miss walls was the same,. He was attacking then cos his urge was so strong he could not help himself,!! Then the demise he was caught,again in vunerable place in Sheffield,. I bet his mind set was. I'm never gunna be caught!!
He should have been caught long before that. His tyre marks were found at the Richardson murder scene at Roundhay park but the investigation was called off halfway through with Sutcliffes car on the remaining list to be checked. Probably the most luckiest serial killer ever
I used to deliver to the girls school there in my job and I once said to the staff there you do realise who was caught up Melbourne Avenue don’t you.. They had no idea and were gobsmacked....
Thank you! I am not British so it will be some time before I can return but I should be able to get there. I have had a request to include Halifax as well.
Saville was questioned by police numerous times and at thought he may have been the ripper, he was seen many times around red light areas all over the country too.
On Barbara killing, I worked out,if she had not turned left into that Rd,he would ov followed her still on main Rd adjacent opposite uni, attacking her there, also he was luck to be able to drag her down the side ov house cos all the rest are terraced,also windows were open across the same Rd with a party going on,. He didn't exactly know a side walk was next to the house were he attacked her,just when he followed her up the street,the attack happened adjacent to walk way bin area out the back,. He would've left her on the pavement other wise
I lived around the corner from Garden Lane, on Crofton Rd. We used to often walk around to Sutcliffe’s house in the dark. It’s so intriguing that Sonya still lives there. It’s really creepy. It was Bradford’s wealthiest suburb in its time. They must have had a bit of money to buy there in the 70’s
The victim was found in the park on the *opposite side of the road* from Savile's apartment. Try to get the details right or maybe you're not interested in doing so.
@@KTSDRE-n1r Soon after he was caught someone put the front windows through,pointless really as that dickhead sutcliffe didn't live there anymore,so it was just upsetting her
@@enlighten274 She was diagnosed with schizophrenia early in their relationship and recovered to become a teacher. It's been suggested that Sonia's illness enabled him to feign the symptoms of schizophrenia leading to his diagnosis which was rejected by the jury. .
@@enlighten274 Yes the jury didn't believe his defence. However several years after the trial he was again diagnosed with the same illness. Very strange.
Richard Mortimer Jean Jordan is buried about 150 metres from where she was murdered,her murder location is the overgrowth in the 1st picture top centre left.
Very interesting. i believe Sutcliffes wife Sonia still lives at that house. Shame to see theyve put a gate across the alleyway at Ashgrove presumably to stop people looking at the murder site.
+Sea Of Sin Youd be surprised. Thats why you were there wasnt it? 15 metres past that gate and to the right under stairs was where the body was left. Id go to look if I could. Same reason people still go on Jack The Ripper tours..to see the actual spot :)
Adam Walsh Work Fair point though I still disagree :) I find the unsolved murders that were linked to him more interesting such as the murder of Debra Schlesinger in Leeds in April 1977.
those 'alley gates' are to prevent burglaries, a lot of uk towns and cities have them, where i live in middlesbrough every single back alley in the town centre has them at every entrance.
yes he definitely did debra schlesinger r.i.p. itvs silent victims documentary proves it,very good post the atkinson murder flats look very eerie R.I.P. those poor women.
You clearly don't know about Peter sutcliff you only cover the parts you think stand today but you missed also april 1979 in Halifax near the old hospital. my grandma once dated him and had a lot to say about him when she was alive . He ain't normal in anyway. RUclipsr live free visited out side the jail in 2020 check it out.
If I were to add an eighth site it would be Halifax. I have never visited the town. I understand it was a park and I'd have to guess the exact location. Of the other sites I think Reginald Park is quite different to how it appeared at the time.
@@cranmeyer if you’re on Facebook go on a page called On The Trail of The Yorkshire Ripper, it’s shows exactly where the murders happened..if you google Reginald Street and Jayne MacDonald spot is more or less the wooden bench/seating nearest to the house on the right.
he had really small feet. police had found a size 6 footprint at crime scene but never each time he was interviewed they never asked him his shoe size (or connected the facts)... there were so many times Sutcliffe should have been caught....
@@dj.culture6590 I was amazed at how tiny he was. As a child in the 70s, I always expected some huge beast of a man and when you saw the arrest coverage where he was covered in a blanket he looked so small. Must have been powerfully built or driven by rage and full of adrenaline at the time of the attacks. Those poor women and their families 🙏 😢..
@@annoldham3018 you're right Ann, really sad situation for all - especially the women... There were so many times the police had an opportunity to stop the madman but failed... P.s all our family have for years lived in Oldham (live in Australia now). lol
@@JCStorm76 that we know of. The murder of Renee McGowan, a 55 year old woman, was murdered in her flat in Bradford in 1975. Although it seems to have been discounted it was during the rippers reign of terror and it is reported McGowan was strangled. Although Sutcliffe had a typical pattern he also varied his attacks on occasion.
@@eliseidurancea6820 his wife Sonia still lives there.given the crime of its occupant Mr Sutcliffe,it was still granted one of those protected property listing thing... u know the type that can't be demolished as she lives there.
Will Scarlett This article 2015 says still at Garden Lane. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3298893/I-want-truth-come-Yorkshire-Ripper-s-wife-vows-reveal-ends-30-years-silence-man-killed-13.html
He was arrested outside my school n my friends grandad was on the arresting squad 👍🏼
Wow Millie...What a conversational starter.. all I got is my pops built planes during the war...
But, jokes aside... your pops is a bloody legend...Thank goodness they caught him cause I doubt he would have stopped...😁😁
@@dj.culture6590 hahah thnkyouuu x
Really hated how the working girls were not seen as human, almost like the community and police believed they deserved what they got. The anger and blame towards them when Sutcliffe's started targetting ANY woman was unreal.
That's exactly what I felt watching the documentary on Netflix! The population only got angry when he killed a "young and innocent" girl, as if the prostitutes deserved what they got. Unbelievable!
I couldn't agree more; fucking disgrace really. Working girls did what they did to put food on the table just like anybody else; it shows the narrow minded, ignorant attitude of the West Yorkshire Police, and sadly the general public too.
he always targetted any woman/young girl ( Tracy Browne 14).Prostitutes just happened to be an easier target.
They found Maureen Long behind my parents work place and they all got questioned as they were working a night shift in a factory. Maureen survived the attack, barely.
I seen that area the other week, its got fencing around it ,a council tip,but then it was rough ground area, left is the layby he parked at, the high walls adjacent with caravan traveller homes still there.
These young women would be in their 50's, 60's and 70's + today. Their parents, children, partners, friends, the police and the journalists, the witnesses, the people who lived in those areas, would also be at the least middle aged or retired or no longer with us.
Probably grandma's, looking forward to their retirement, etc. Those who were students, school leavers, at the beginning of their careers, etc would probably be looking back on the last 40-45 years, celebrating their 40th or 50th wedding anniversaries, etc etc.
Everything stopped for them at the moment they came across that sick and evil predator who caused so much pain, devastation, sadness and fear.
It's sobering to think how quickly the years fly by, and how quickly a lifetime or half of a lifetime can seem to pass.
It also shows that a random meeting, a choice between going for a night out or to stay at home, taking a shortcut, etc can make the difference between crossing the path of a murderer and a completely normal night in a person's life.
Yes. Jean Jordan is one year older than me. She was about to get in a car with someone else when she saw the Yorkshire Ripper and decided to go with him instead.
He is reliably believed to have killed about 20 more victims before and during the period that he was officially active . The police work in this case was so bad , it was unforgivable. They should have caught him half a dozen times before his actual arrest !
not wrong there..
He had a handwritten letter in his lorry above his rear- view mirror saying something like "in this van is a man whose a genius and must be kept sleeping - don't wake him"
Police had seen this and must have just thought he was harmless cause he weighed 85 lbs wet..
No it’s no reliably believed he killed 20,Keith Hellawell said he could’ve been responsible for another 10 attacks/murders that were all done within the County boundary.. most of those 10 were attacks,2 or 3 more he POSSIBLY did but not Realiably.
How do you know this and why is that incriminating? Just sounds like playful writing.
The Police worked hard but the leadership made some distress strategic errors. Remember computers were in their infancy and not available on this investigation, and no DNA, mobiles, CCTV or other forensic advantages like they have today.
@@starwood213 The biggest mistake apart from them focusing too much on the Newcastle accent and prostitute victims being the only victims was different police forces not sharing or comparing intelligence .All the dots were there but no one was able to join them. Police forces in different jurisdictions would not co-operate with one another and share vital information .Also consider that thousands of cases have been solved without those modern tools mentioned by good police work.
Interesting fact? The body of the poor girl killed in Manchester was found by the chap that played Les Battersby in Coronation Street.
There is a video of Bruce Jones talking about it.
fasthracing Wow! I liked him in Corrie
fasthracing Jean Jordan is buried about 160 metres from where she was murdered.
Richard Mortimer it’s in section GG R/C of Southern Cemetery.. around 15 metres from the front about in the middle of that section. Millward is section I R/C,middle of the section(there’s a sort of walkway in the middle and 1/4 of that section if your facing towards Princess Parkway(Millward now has a headstone but it’s not on her grave,her grave is next to it unmarked.
@@darrenfield7060 Thanks. I will try to visit next time I get to Manchester.
Glad that the focus is on the victims, and not on him.
Also today is the day that he died, so hopefully today will give the surviving victims and the other victims' families Some sense of closure.
Can't understand why Jayne MacDonald took that route to walk home on her own in the early hours from the City Centre to Scott Hall Road through a dimly-lit warren of terraced houses and back alleys etc. slap bang in the middle of a notorious red-light district. She could have stuck to main roads where it was likely that she could have flagged down a passing taxi. And what was her male companion doing leaving a young girl of 16 all on her own in the centre of Leeds at that time of night during the height of the Ripper killing spree.
Baffles me why she took the long route home..
Please don't victim blame.its not called for.she lost her life a16 to one of the most evil men in uk history.she felt safe she was near her home
By the time Jayne was murdered she was only the fifth woman killed ( that isnt supposed to sound dismissive ) , one previous one had been in Bradford and although the three first ones were not that far from the area of Leeds was walking through they were all labelled as sex workers ( even though that might not have been fair or correct ) and the assumption was that the killer ( he wasnt yet known as the Ripper ) was only targeting prostitutes and not ' innocent women ' ( that is genuinely the way the police referring to the first victims as if they were partly to blame ) . Jayne probably thought she was safe as she wasnt a prostitute .
@@cathrynhesketh5703 Victim blaming is to suggest that MacDonald was in some way at fault for what happened to her.
It is not advisable to walk alone through an unsafe, poorly lit area in the early hours of the morning but the fault for the murder lies solely with Sutcliffe.
It is chilling reading some of these comments about living near the murder sites at the time etc. It must have been so terrifying living in West Yorkshire / Manchester at the time. I'm sure people must have nightmares to this day. My sympathies to everyone who lived through this.
My poor mum had to walk through Roundhay Park for her night job and as a small child (8 years old in '78) I was terrified she would become his next victim. I can't remember if one of his victims had been found there at the time but yes, it really was a scary time.
He also had a few misses ...like on Abbey street in Derby...the bit that always got me was Wilma McCann's kids went looking for her on the streets in the early hours coz they knew where she worked and never came home at the usual time..they had no idea but feared the worsed...can you imagine having to tell them what happened to their mum?
On the first murder site at Prince Philip Playing Fields, one of the houses just over the fence is where Wilma McCann lived. I don't believe a word of what Sutcliffe said about killing her. He obviously gave her a lift and offered to 'walk' her up to the back gate of her house. Probably lagged behind her and attacked from behind her without her even realising. Forget all that stuff Sutcliffe told the police about her offering sex and lying down on the grass. He said that to put her in as bad a light as possible. Because of their attitude to 'prostitutes' West Yorkshire police lapped it up.
I actually used to play Football on the Prince Philip fields believe it or not
Put her in bad light🤔 you mean this despicable mother who left a 7 year old in charge of 3 younger kids,100% certain she thought she was going to fu@k that night whether on that slope or in her house and don’t give us this bullshit she was down on her luck as it was the 70’s,me and 3 brothers were brought up by just my mother but she didn’t resort to getting pissed instead of providing for us🤬
@@darrenfield7060 A very interesting response which, by the way, I do not thank you for. You refer to yourself as a child of the 70s - just like myself - and, in fact, it was not at all unusual for a mother to go out for an evening and leave the children in the care of the eldest. No-one saw anything wrong with that back then and it is a rather 'millenial' attitude that prevails today suggesting that children are, somehow, in danger inside their own home. With regard to your suggestion about Wilma's intentions that night - which I can't even bring myself to repeat - she was a single woman, she was separated from her husband and there is no reason why she shouldn't seek male company - if this had been a man exhibiting the same behaviour, he would have been considered a 'bit of a lad', nudge, nudge, wink wink. I don't like using modern buzz words like 'sexist' but there is no other way to describe your attitude on that issue. Was Wilma doing anything wrong in going out to the pub on a Friday evening along with 1000s of others in Leeds and, indeed, millions of others all over Great Britain - your opinion is that she WAS doing something wrong. If that was the case, and I don't concede the point for one moment, the normal response to such an issue would be a visit from the social services not to be murdered by some lunatic. It's a shame that this supposedly idyllic upbringing you had in the 70s didn't imbue you with any sense of decency, moderation in language, or respect for women.
@@mavisenderby8991 her kids were weeks from being taken off her for good,they’d already been taken off her twice before,lived in squalor whilst she pissed money up the wall..leaves a 7 year old in charge of 3 younger children 🤬🤬despicable mother
@@mavisenderby8991 I'm also a child of the 70s and agree with you 100 per cent. Devious cunning Sutcliffe was seeking to bolster up his defence and make his crimes more relatable. The need to instantly categorise Wilma as a good time girl did nothing to help solve the case or really engage the community. What if Sutcliffe actually socialised with Wilma that evening or on other occasions? Well never know but perhaps there could have been an earlier resolution with a more open minded categorisation of the crime.
People should lay flowers there to respect the victims
NO, they should lay condoms, as most were prostitutes....lol
@@greenfingersgardener822 your just a troll
@@greenfingersgardener822 ur a prick
His house is as creepy as he is .
@Mohammed Ali the g Read Somebody's Husband, somebody's son, you'll find out he was very normal.
That BACK ASHGROVE paint sign is still there today.
Yes,still there
2.45, what I don't understand is killing baraba at the very height of yrs he attacked, the police should've been patrolling manningham, city centre,uni area Leeds Rd, lsterdyke area, Clayton area all ov it, stopping cars, but he casually drove up past uni at 1am in morning at killed her yrds from houses,people having parties etc,. He was so lucky doing this,. With miss hill and miss walls was the same,. He was attacking then cos his urge was so strong he could not help himself,!! Then the demise he was caught,again in vunerable place in Sheffield,. I bet his mind set was. I'm never gunna be caught!!
He should have been caught long before that. His tyre marks were found at the Richardson murder scene at Roundhay park but the investigation was called off halfway through with Sutcliffes car on the remaining list to be checked. Probably the most luckiest serial killer ever
I literally walk on Melbourne avenue everyday
I used to deliver to the girls school there in my job and I once said to the staff there you do realise who was caught up Melbourne Avenue don’t you.. They had no idea and were gobsmacked....
Wow who was ur grandad
What about Huddersfield and Helen Rykta?
If I could identify the spot I would go there. I wanted to include her because she was so scared and offered his money back.
Kathryn wake i love you will fookin you marry me ?
@@cranmeyer the spot is easily identifiable. The timber yard is still a timber yard and the area is still Huddersfield’s red light district. HD1 6BR
@@bittu209_ haha! Just making sure my hometown is included lol
Thank you! I am not British so it will be some time before I can return but I should be able to get there. I have had a request to include Halifax as well.
I wonder if Peter got his Jim'll fix it badge... Jim fixed it for him to meet Frank Bruno
Saville helped him with at least two of the muders.
Grahame Steele Savile had nothing to do with any of the murders just conspiracy bullshit
Saville was questioned by police numerous times and at thought he may have been the ripper, he was seen many times around red light areas all over the country too.
@@MrSteeleification bollocks he was a sexual deviant not a killer I mean Jimmy savile
@@placidrenegade one of the bodies was found across his penthouse flat in roundhay park.
On Barbara killing, I worked out,if she had not turned left into that Rd,he would ov followed her still on main Rd adjacent opposite uni, attacking her there, also he was luck to be able to drag her down the side ov house cos all the rest are terraced,also windows were open across the same Rd with a party going on,. He didn't exactly know a side walk was next to the house were he attacked her,just when he followed her up the street,the attack happened adjacent to walk way bin area out the back,. He would've left her on the pavement other wise
I lived around the corner from Garden Lane, on Crofton Rd. We used to often walk around to Sutcliffe’s house in the dark. It’s so intriguing that Sonya still lives there. It’s really creepy. It was Bradford’s wealthiest suburb in its time. They must have had a bit of money to buy there in the 70’s
i thought it was a nice big house did sonya work as well is she still there
@Lord Rupert it will be a hard sell is it near bradford city center
It is in Heaton, a suburb of Bradford a few kilometres out of town.
@@cranmeyer thank for reply
DNA and computers. He would have been caught. Has 9 Oak Ave been demolished and replaced?
Jimmy saville was a suspect in one of the murders, the victim was found by savilles penthouse.
That's just bullshit conspiracy nonsense.
The victim was found in the park on the *opposite side of the road* from Savile's apartment.
Try to get the details right or maybe you're not interested in doing so.
@@neilrogers6767literally not
Peter's house has hardly changed since 1981.
And it's still occupied by his ex wife Sonia. Although I believe she's remarried. Weird.
I live about 10 miles from here only started watching the rippers documentary’s recently I took a drive past his house last night
Number 6 garden lane (heaton) Bradford bd17 incase anyone wants a look
@@KTSDRE-n1r Soon after he was caught someone put the front windows through,pointless really as that dickhead sutcliffe didn't live there anymore,so it was just upsetting her
It’s bd 9
I feel so bad for his wife
I don't. I can't believe she didn't suspect something.
@@starwood213 wasn't she ill? As in had some sort of mental disorder?
@@enlighten274 She was diagnosed with schizophrenia early in their relationship and recovered to become a teacher. It's been suggested that Sonia's illness enabled him to feign the symptoms of schizophrenia leading to his diagnosis which was rejected by the jury.
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@@starwood213 ugh what a coward of a man.firstly kills each of these innocent women then hides behind his wife's illness.destroyed many lives .
@@enlighten274 Yes the jury didn't believe his defence. However several years after the trial he was again diagnosed with the same illness. Very strange.
On the Bruce Jones Ripper video it shows the Jordan murder scene in old TV news footage. The Atkinson flats look derelict.
Thanks, I am sorry I did not have good info about Jean Jordan. Atkinson flats set for demolition.
Do you mind of I ask you if that is the only photo of Jean that exists?
+GriefTourist This is the only one I have seen.
Apparently he was a very good hgv driver
Richard Mortimer Jean Jordan is buried about 150 metres from where she was murdered,her murder location is the overgrowth in the 1st picture top centre left.
It needs a bit of music.
Music added.
Very interesting. i believe Sutcliffes wife Sonia still lives at that house. Shame to see theyve put a gate across the alleyway at Ashgrove presumably to stop people looking at the murder site.
I doubt that's why they put a gate there - it was donkey's years ago and there would be nothing to see anyway.
+Sea Of Sin Youd be surprised. Thats why you were there wasnt it? 15 metres past that gate and to the right under stairs was where the body was left. Id go to look if I could. Same reason people still go on Jack The Ripper tours..to see the actual spot :)
Adam Walsh Work
Fair point though I still disagree :)
I find the unsolved murders that were linked to him more interesting such as the murder of Debra Schlesinger in Leeds in April 1977.
those 'alley gates' are to prevent burglaries, a lot of uk towns and cities have them, where i live in middlesbrough every single back alley in the town centre has them at every entrance.
yes he definitely did debra schlesinger r.i.p. itvs silent victims documentary proves it,very good post the atkinson murder flats look very eerie R.I.P. those poor women.
Thanks thats interesting. You will have to do the other ones.
thanks for the post
You clearly don't know about Peter sutcliff you only cover the parts you think stand today but you missed also april 1979 in Halifax near the old hospital. my grandma once dated him and had a lot to say about him when she was alive . He ain't normal in anyway. RUclipsr live free visited out side the jail in 2020 check it out.
If I were to add an eighth site it would be Halifax. I have never visited the town. I understand it was a park and I'd have to guess the exact location. Of the other sites I think Reginald Park is quite different to how it appeared at the time.
Bit bizarre that you’re going for Sutcliffe one-upmanship.
@@cranmeyer yeah please do cover the rest I'm happy to get you the locations if you need 👍
@@LceOnline right !
@@cranmeyer if you’re on Facebook go on a page called On The Trail of The Yorkshire Ripper, it’s shows exactly where the murders happened..if you google Reginald Street and Jayne MacDonald spot is more or less the wooden bench/seating nearest to the house on the right.
The police only caught him due to a fluke. It's better to be lucky than good I suppose.
Tehui1974 But they'd interviewed him several times before they got lucky.
he had really small feet. police had found a size 6 footprint at crime scene but never each time he was interviewed they never asked him his shoe size (or connected the facts)...
there were so many times Sutcliffe should have been caught....
@@dj.culture6590 I was amazed at how tiny he was. As a child in the 70s, I always expected some huge beast of a man and when you saw the arrest coverage where he was covered in a blanket he looked so small. Must have been powerfully built or driven by rage and full of adrenaline at the time of the attacks. Those poor women and their families 🙏 😢..
@@annoldham3018
you're right Ann, really sad situation for all - especially the women...
There were so many times the police had an opportunity to stop the madman but failed...
P.s all our family have for years lived in Oldham (live in Australia now). lol
He killed patricia Atkinson on my street
The only murder that happened indoors
@M P Economical but it’s never really looked nice
@M P the flat was involved in a fire a long time ago and never got restored, it just got abandoned we use to sneak in there as kids for a laugh
@@JCStorm76 that we know of. The murder of Renee McGowan, a 55 year old woman, was murdered in her flat in Bradford in 1975. Although it seems to have been discounted it was during the rippers reign of terror and it is reported McGowan was strangled. Although Sutcliffe had a typical pattern he also varied his attacks on occasion.
@@starwood213 I honestly don’t believe he did that one but we will never know for sure
His house is round the corner from mine
does someone live there now?
@@eliseidurancea6820 his wife Sonia still lives there.given the crime of its occupant Mr Sutcliffe,it was still granted one of those protected property listing thing... u know the type that can't be demolished as she lives there.
Do you ever see Sonia?
I like the music, what is it called my good sir
It is from the RUclips library. I do not recall the title.
Crikey has Richard Mortimer got a knighthood???
He was a very good hgv driver
He got sick of constantly changing gear all day long so he decided to kill a few prostitutes !
Rest in peace
U mean rot in hell
I was texting about the poor women he killed not him.
But real rippah enjoyzz the hunt
Can anyone tell me what the piano song is in the background?
It is from the RUclips library. It's so long ago I do not remember the title.
I thought the Ripper house was torn down?
+Will Scarlett Maybe when his wife dies it will be.
Richard Mortimer+ I don't think his wife (or ex-wife I heard) lives there anymore. I read somewhere she moved down south in the 80's.
Will Scarlett This article 2015 says still at Garden Lane.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3298893/I-want-truth-come-Yorkshire-Ripper-s-wife-vows-reveal-ends-30-years-silence-man-killed-13.html
Richard Mortimer+ Thanks for that. I didn't know she was still living there.
The Wests house in Gloucester was demolished