so I think handler Walter is visiting a dealer who has human bodies in storage because his previous squad was wiped out in the last mission, or just used to fulfill the mission. the dealer asks him to fill him in on what happened to them and mentions he’s helping clear his inventory suggesting he has quite a bit of humans in stock. near the foot of the operating table, if you look closely, the red substance being pumped into the subjects brain has a similar red segmented glow like the coral explosions from the reveal trailer. I think the coral is being used to forcibly upload the mind of the human pilot to the ac leaving the body lifeless or in a vegetable state. the bodies could possibly also be stored somewhere inside the ac during combat in order to keep the connection. any ac or machine with red lights with a vertical light bloom could have also undergone this procedure. the voice speaking during the mission is an operator who helps coordinate missions/ reports damages. it could be a computer or person. the pilots can not speak I believe. walter’s line to 621 he’ll give him a reason to exist, also indicates possibly 621’s body has been storage for a long time and that Walter himself has a purpose he wants to achieve on the planet
This new trailer could serve as the game's introduction. The previous gameplay trailer depicted C4-621's first mission after he was awakened and landed from orbit. There are a lot of similarities between this story and Human Plus from Gen1. Keep Dying and get into debt -$50,000 6 times. Your body is shown being experimented on. C4- 621 is us, the player. 6+2+1 = 9 NINE-BALL and "C4". Nineball was Consciousness Number 4. No way that's a coincidence.
Holy hell that's awesome if true! Love Nineball and that would be a sick reference. Now that you mention it, I definitely did get the Human Plus vibes from this.
This also supports the Human Plus theory in that, in AC1, when you acquire Human Plus, your name is reassigned to "Rebel" with a 3 digit number afterwards.
Wait, when was Nine Ball reffered to as "Conciousness 4"? If anything I thought they could be talking about the 4th stage of developmemtal consciousness, freedom/autonomy.
@@TheBroGamer14082 Nine-Ball is the first AC to be depicted as an A.I. controlled AC unit. He is the poster child of Armored Core, just like Kazuya from Tekken.
Seems to me at least mostly like 621 is being purchased as a replacement for the loss of 617 619 and 620 after they where wiped out completing that mission, that the “giving you a reason to exist” is basically in reference to taking you off that table to fight and maybe earn a name for yourself rather then being a glorified piece of refrigerated meat waiting to be purchased or expire
@@Shadow-swordI'm starting to think Fromsoft is subtly introducing an important perhaps secret enemy here. After all, they go out of their way to give the one in the trailer and the one on the table different numbers.
To be fair, a lot of ac games have you as a slave or disposable asset or have some serious players like that. Like human + made you a god pilot but you become s slave to an ai or have a high risk of going crazy. Or in 4A where your stuck doing wars on the surface of a polluted planet while the people in charge float above it. Plus you always hand some handler since atleast 2.
I sort of agree, but in the Gen 1-3 games it was more like you were recruited into a group that gave you access to weapons and parts while taking on missions. If you didn't pull your weight then you'd go into debt and well...they would find other ways for you to pay them back. AC6 looks like you won't be cooperating with this Walter guy and instead be doing whatever order he tells you to just like a trained dog. I'm just curious now where does Walter gets his hounds from...
My guess is each time the "pilot" dies, the number goes up. We never seen 621 in this trailer, so what if 621 is all thats left of 617, reformated as a new person?
We see 621 at the end. He is the one being woken up and told to get ready. If you watch the other trailer we see that 621 is in orbit and is sent down to carry on the missions. Also 617 isn’t dead. He is the one who reports that the mission is complete.
@@Prockski Im aware but my theory is they are all fragments, and 617 619 and 620 died, they used the fragments to create 621, since using 617 619 and 620 wouldnt make sense, as others assume theyre dead.
What I understand so far is that the game is basically corperate warfare mecha Dune .... This handler Walter is probably a scientist who builds AC's for any of the corporations fighting for a powerful resource on this dead planet...we will probably be playing as this scientifically enhanced human pilot ("Augmented human") controlled by Walter and the corps to do whatever the fuck they want
Not sure about the reading of the trailer but you play 621. The others are hounds that went before but were taken out except 617 who survives to tell the mission was complete. He also seems to be the one on the cover. It looks like 621 was sent down to help. 621 did not take part in the battle. You can see on that overview map that it’s 617, 619, and 620.
Hmm...so do you think when the narrator says "621...I'll give you a reason to exist" means 621 is existing to do something for 617 like revenge or to heal 617?
@@btgplay I’m not sure what you mean. You don’t seem to be disagreeing with me. We watch the other mechs and then are shown our character at the end as it’s being activated to get down to Rubicon. The other trailer before this showed 621 being activated in orbit.
@@Prockski I mean if I'm understanding you correctly and that's 617 on the table, then I'm trying to understand why the guy at the end says he'll give 621 a reason to exist if he did not take part in the battle. Your reasoning makes sense, I'm just not understanding that part.
@@btgplaymaybe they are just „inventory“. only called up to do the handlers bidding hense have only a life if he wills it. so giving them a reason to exist could be interpreted as they are trash otherwise
@@btgplay I am saying that’s 621 on the table. 621 is the character we will play as in the game and we are watching them being prepared while Walter tells the Doctor what happened to the others.
It's interesting looking at these trailers and how people reacted to them after release. I saw an analysis of the reveal trailer that aged like milk, the person who made it was way off. Can't say I'm surprised as likely nobody was expecting it to be a reboot.
Given that C4 621 is the label on that core hanging above the body, they don't even give names to the 'pilots' or 'hounds', they just refer by their Cores. Which leaves it open for 617's 'CPU' to have been on the table, salvaged and put into C4 621. It would, after all, give them a reason to continue to exist. Edit: Thought I just had, the final boss of Verdict Day made a big deal out of war being the reason for it's existence. "There is no place for me other than the battlefield. To live as I please, and die a senseless death. That is who I am. Not a mere man of flesh. War is part of my existence." - J. Seems like Walter takes that view of C4 621's CPU. The phrase 'Human Debris' comes to mind in the worst way...
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so I think handler Walter is visiting a dealer who has human bodies in storage because his previous squad was wiped out in the last mission, or just used to fulfill the mission. the dealer asks him to fill him in on what happened to them and mentions he’s helping clear his inventory suggesting he has quite a bit of humans in stock. near the foot of the operating table, if you look closely, the red substance being pumped into the subjects brain has a similar red segmented glow like the coral explosions from the reveal trailer. I think the coral is being used to forcibly upload the mind of the human pilot to the ac leaving the body lifeless or in a vegetable state. the bodies could possibly also be stored somewhere inside the ac during combat in order to keep the connection. any ac or machine with red lights with a vertical light bloom could have also undergone this procedure. the voice speaking during the mission is an operator who helps coordinate missions/ reports damages. it could be a computer or person. the pilots can not speak I believe. walter’s line to 621 he’ll give him a reason to exist, also indicates possibly 621’s body has been storage for a long time and that Walter himself has a purpose he wants to achieve on the planet
The sound design.... Jesus.
This new trailer could serve as the game's introduction. The previous gameplay trailer depicted C4-621's first mission after he was awakened and landed from orbit.
There are a lot of similarities between this story and Human Plus from Gen1. Keep Dying and get into debt -$50,000 6 times. Your body is shown being experimented on.
C4- 621 is us, the player.
6+2+1 = 9
NINE-BALL
and "C4". Nineball was Consciousness Number 4. No way that's a coincidence.
Holy hell that's awesome if true! Love Nineball and that would be a sick reference. Now that you mention it, I definitely did get the Human Plus vibes from this.
This also supports the Human Plus theory in that, in AC1, when you acquire Human Plus, your name is reassigned to "Rebel" with a 3 digit number afterwards.
Wait, when was Nine Ball reffered to as "Conciousness 4"? If anything I thought they could be talking about the 4th stage of developmemtal consciousness, freedom/autonomy.
what does nineball mean and what's the connection to this C4? idk much of the story of the previous games.
@@TheBroGamer14082 Nine-Ball is the first AC to be depicted as an A.I. controlled AC unit. He is the poster child of Armored Core, just like Kazuya from Tekken.
Seems to me at least mostly like 621 is being purchased as a replacement for the loss of 617 619 and 620 after they where wiped out completing that mission, that the “giving you a reason to exist” is basically in reference to taking you off that table to fight and maybe earn a name for yourself rather then being a glorified piece of refrigerated meat waiting to be purchased or expire
No 617 is alive and well just the ac is just damage he still aliive
@@sonnysunny975 perhaps, the other two are for sure dead, 617 is a bit ambiguous
@@Shadow-swordI'm starting to think Fromsoft is subtly introducing an important perhaps secret enemy here. After all, they go out of their way to give the one in the trailer and the one on the table different numbers.
@@kieranadamson3224 not to mention the odd skip over 618, where are they? Already dead? Important for later? Why aren’t they on this mission?
@@Shadow-sword it appears 618 got taken out before entering phase 2 of the mission whether they are dead or disabled is unknown
To be fair, a lot of ac games have you as a slave or disposable asset or have some serious players like that. Like human + made you a god pilot but you become s slave to an ai or have a high risk of going crazy. Or in 4A where your stuck doing wars on the surface of a polluted planet while the people in charge float above it. Plus you always hand some handler since atleast 2.
I sort of agree, but in the Gen 1-3 games it was more like you were recruited into a group that gave you access to weapons and parts while taking on missions. If you didn't pull your weight then you'd go into debt and well...they would find other ways for you to pay them back. AC6 looks like you won't be cooperating with this Walter guy and instead be doing whatever order he tells you to just like a trained dog. I'm just curious now where does Walter gets his hounds from...
My guess is each time the "pilot" dies, the number goes up. We never seen 621 in this trailer, so what if 621 is all thats left of 617, reformated as a new person?
A human Armored Core made from a salvaged pilot...wtf that's wild. I like it though.
We see 621 at the end. He is the one being woken up and told to get ready. If you watch the other trailer we see that 621 is in orbit and is sent down to carry on the missions. Also 617 isn’t dead. He is the one who reports that the mission is complete.
Why would you think that when 617, 619, and 620 were all on the same squad fighting together?
@@brodofraggins4688 what if theyre all fragments of the same person?
@@Prockski Im aware but my theory is they are all fragments, and 617 619 and 620 died, they used the fragments to create 621, since using 617 619 and 620 wouldnt make sense, as others assume theyre dead.
They are mercenaries but sometimes always in some company that they work for
What I understand so far is that the game is basically corperate warfare mecha Dune .... This handler Walter is probably a scientist who builds AC's for any of the corporations fighting for a powerful resource on this dead planet...we will probably be playing as this scientifically enhanced human pilot ("Augmented human") controlled by Walter and the corps to do whatever the fuck they want
That does seem to be where we start. But post playthrough 1, I suspect that won't remain so...
@@Sorain1You thinking multiple protags?
Not sure about the reading of the trailer but you play 621. The others are hounds that went before but were taken out except 617 who survives to tell the mission was complete. He also seems to be the one on the cover. It looks like 621 was sent down to help. 621 did not take part in the battle. You can see on that overview map that it’s 617, 619, and 620.
Hmm...so do you think when the narrator says "621...I'll give you a reason to exist" means 621 is existing to do something for 617 like revenge or to heal 617?
@@btgplay I’m not sure what you mean. You don’t seem to be disagreeing with me. We watch the other mechs and then are shown our character at the end as it’s being activated to get down to Rubicon. The other trailer before this showed 621 being activated in orbit.
@@Prockski I mean if I'm understanding you correctly and that's 617 on the table, then I'm trying to understand why the guy at the end says he'll give 621 a reason to exist if he did not take part in the battle. Your reasoning makes sense, I'm just not understanding that part.
@@btgplaymaybe they are just „inventory“. only called up to do the handlers bidding hense have only a life if he wills it. so giving them a reason to exist could be interpreted as they are trash otherwise
@@btgplay I am saying that’s 621 on the table. 621 is the character we will play as in the game and we are watching them being prepared while Walter tells the Doctor what happened to the others.
It's interesting looking at these trailers and how people reacted to them after release. I saw an analysis of the reveal trailer that aged like milk, the person who made it was way off. Can't say I'm surprised as likely nobody was expecting it to be a reboot.
Refer to the Gameplay Reveal trailer with that context. Then put 2 and 2 together.
Just went back and watched it, 100% makes sense now.
Given that C4 621 is the label on that core hanging above the body, they don't even give names to the 'pilots' or 'hounds', they just refer by their Cores. Which leaves it open for 617's 'CPU' to have been on the table, salvaged and put into C4 621. It would, after all, give them a reason to continue to exist.
Edit: Thought I just had, the final boss of Verdict Day made a big deal out of war being the reason for it's existence. "There is no place for me other than the battlefield. To live as I please, and die a senseless death. That is who I am. Not a mere man of flesh. War is part of my existence." - J.
Seems like Walter takes that view of C4 621's CPU. The phrase 'Human Debris' comes to mind in the worst way...
I'm imagining you're an enhanced debt slave like the old Human Plus shit. So were all the pilots who died in the trailer.
Get it right people, its actully wanzers!
Still have AC1 for the PS1