The best moment is when Ibrahim walks among his greek sculptures and sees himself as a God. You can see how arrogance is slowly taking him over and later becomes his downfall. In comparisment to Sultan, who repeatedly puts effort in staying humble which makes him stronger, wiser and keeps him on the throne.
not even slowly, he's been like that from the beginning, from this actor'S interpretation of the role, and in the worst way. Makes one skin crawl with distaste.
One, I can't imagine why they paid the actress who plays Hürrem less than he who played the sultan; she should obviously have been paid more than he, as she has much more of the show on her shoulders, and many more scenes and more intense acting to do...And two, I think that the actor who plays Subul here must have been a professional dancer in his earlier days; he is so concious of the movements of his part that I suspect he himself created, and moves with great control and grace. And I hope he read this comment as well; as an ex-ballerina, it is a pleasure to see his art.
The actress was wore out by this part, it affected her health, even her pregnancy. I was so sad she left the show because of all this and her failed relationship. That was a lot to take on through this whole production.
ibrahim asking gritti and bali bey to shake hands and make peace has to be the most hilarious moment 😂 also matrakci is the most goofiest harmless character in this series, he's hilarious but adorably so😂❤ the mighty, valiant and brave bali bey running away from joshua effendi's home is hilarious, good thing he's got those looks or else this entire bit is creepy 😂
When Hurrem tried to save Hatice's baby, you can clearly see the doll baby with full red hair while Hurrem is holding by the feet. Hurrem to the rescue. Queen mother warned about the sculptures ti be bad luck. The Poets warned about the sculptures to be bad luck. Ibrahim is growing more and more selfish and greed for power thats about to be the beginning of his downfall
ibrahim could've just said suleiman has forbidden me to talk about it and he is aware that i visit the lodge, come on, ibrahim is devious but not dumb. also hatice is all beauty and no brain. hurrem and ibrahim might be the subjects of ottoman empire, making them her subjects, but the way she yells without actually considering the gravity of accusation is simply impulsive
@@XxsyaX me too. It is so obviously "off" --do remember that in this interpretation, Ibrahim was clearly Suleyman's pretty (sic, as he isn't very much that...) boy from the earliest days of 10 years old and counting. He is insanely jealous of Hürrem, a woman, who took Suleyman's attention away from him, and abusive and deeply violent towards the women in general, as well as the viril men who love them -- without a second' thought. Real s and m stuff, sad. Why the fine Nigra Kalfa has even the slightest interest in such is beyond comprehension...
I agree Ibrahim is devious but i totally disagree with Suleiman for naming his son just because it's his sister's son. He is crossing the line here even though Ibrahim requested for it, Suleiman should have declined. Who agrees?
@@lovelydove8770 yes they did, and some of the story lines were stupid! "Faruze" for one... I never understood why the ruined her friendship with Hatice either, they could still find plenty to have drama about. It still would have been a great story line just with her battles with Ibrahim.
Hatice is too obsessed and explosive and scared and she can't run of what she's scared of, she's scared of something happening to the baby and it does happen and then she's scared she will lose Ibrahim and that also happens...Also I don't think the poison from the notebook killed the baby, they said who touches the notebook directly not who touches someone that touched the notebook, either way, it's just fiction 😅
Is this girl the same that plays Halime Sultan in Magnificent Century Kosem ( time frame 19:40)? She looks just like her but younger and skinnier. It would make sense since years passed between the two shows.
If this princes who tried to escape in the forest by foot really think she would make it? I think if she was a smart one she would have use the horse it would have been a lot better!!!
1:32:15 Mustafa needs more of the reprimanding(actually long overdue) however I think the main reason of Suleyman's anger was because his ego got a hit after Isabella's continued resistance towards him and said she'll rather die than stay there. Good on her. Suleyman needs to be pulled back in line. Not all women want him or find him attractive. He needs to be humbled. Love Hurrem like he said he does and maintain a monogamous relationship. He appears to be a great leader but he is definitely not a great romantic partner
A true ruler or Sultan is one whose subjects love him and not someone whose subjects fear him, even firmness is necessary to be exercised when the circumstance demands it. Humbly sharing my opinion ...
Hatice being so negative affected her relationship with ibrahim, can't even let ibrahim speak before go in full rage.. Those words hurt ibrahim's soul, her reaction and questioning was so Overacting as if Ibrahim cheated on her before 🙄
I don't understand one thing. Does Hurrem realize Ibrahim could have produced leo before Suleiman and this would have destroyed her and her children? Leo obviously knew what he was getting into. He would have faced death either way. Ibrahim would have spared him Suleiman would have killed him. His exposure would have ruined hurrem. And in times like those reputation of women was held in high regards.
That doesn't change the fact that what Ibrahim did was sadistic in and of itself. And he still killed an innocent man and threatenes children's lives. 'It could have been worse so be grateful' is a defence that abusers use.
Ibrahim give the poison to kill Leo. Hurrum never were unfaithful to suliman she told Leo to leave because she have children's and in love with suliman.
Valide should know more, as a sultan running an empire is not easy and not a kind of game that you can say TIME OUT... Everyone changed when its needes
Hmmm, of course Hatice doubted Ibrahim. She's in a society where the women have little respect for their persons, there is non stop lying or refusal to even consider a woman worthy of any attention to their personal, human needs or life or their rights and responsability for freedom and Choice in their life. And in a society where depth is discouraged and replaced by many relationships in order to stop any deep real consistant contact, which would empower both the women and men to step out of the servitude and own their lives directly. Plus, as she mentioned with more tact than he, he is a little upstart, power hungry and resentful, and she smells it behind all his attentions...
The one playing Princess Isabella is the lousiest and most boring annoying actor. Need a better actor to play the part. I know writers, producers and directors always go for the look but if they are not skillfully talent to play the part there is no use and sense to displaying their looks to sell their images out to the world. Its killing the story
And also it is annoying that we could hear two languages spoken at a time like literally cannot be understood. They could have just let Isabella speak her language and just put Turkish and English subtitles..
Is the Isabella part true to history? What was she doing sailing on a ship in the medierranean anyhow? Where was she her journey supposed to be taking her?
@@KUKIZOtahchanu ...Just to let you know in real life,after Sultan Orhan reign,for almost 600 years the harem was in continuous turmoil,and it was all the time "solved" by evil actions taken either by Valide Sultan,or one of the wives or the "favorite" of the Sultan!
He died of poison Ibrahim was absorbing through his diary. No curse or anything. Infants body stood no chance . Therefore Hurrem freaked out when she realized a child was exposed to poison. Bc she did not aim to kill a boy but Ibrahim
@@izabelayoung1815It was not clearly stated as to why the baby died. The baby was premature so his immune system was weak. The poisones book might be one factor why the baby is ill and then Hatice's negligence
@@2012asteryess u and me totally same answer .coz hatice maid want to touch hatice son but hurrem decline .. i thing the one factor hatice son dies because of the poison that ibrahim touch her son 😢 poor baby ..she is innocent 😭
Horrible, in islam is forbidden to have a prostitute how malko coglu has. It is totally prohibited to even look at woman who is not your wife or family. It is punishable for the men who touch unpermissible woman.
All women are owners of their own bodies and sacred...there are no "unpermissable" women, though clear what you meant here. But don't keep perpetuating the system that destroys real relations between women and men...as the two brothers of muslimism do also, xtianity and their older brother....same family, and it shows -- and not well either.
@@gwirgalon3758 I agree with where you're coming from but according to Sharia law a man is allowed to bed with a slave even if they are not married. That system has a lot of benefits for the woman involved but I forgot all of them.I will look through my notes if you want to know more
In Islam - it's what your right hand possesses. In the Gulf there are concubines and women slaves (and men too) up to this day. And those slaves could be tortured or killed. They are the property of the master.
@jennylolo5179 Nah, she's supposed to be native Spanish too because why would a random ottoman slave learn Spanish? It makes more sense for her to be a Spanish woman captured by pirates and sold to the Ottomans.
How fast Ibrahim and Hatice forgot that Hürrem saved their baby's life!
Because now day poeple fast forgot what we have done to them..
I have noticed that in all the Turkish stories they always forget the good deeds done to them but always after revenge.
@@gloriasantiague8901 this is based in true story so i guess people are like that in reality
hurrem made their baby sick cause of blackmagic too lol
@@tinaoppo408, you right, it’s what have you done for me lately?
The best moment is when Ibrahim walks among his greek sculptures and sees himself as a God. You can see how arrogance is slowly taking him over and later becomes his downfall. In comparisment to Sultan, who repeatedly puts effort in staying humble which makes him stronger, wiser and keeps him on the throne.
not even slowly, he's been like that from the beginning, from this actor'S interpretation of the role, and in the worst way. Makes one skin crawl with distaste.
I feel like Valide sometimes lowkey wants to side with Hurrem’s shade when she goes up against Mahidevran 😂😭
If there was a jewelry store that sold replicas of all the jewelry in this series, I would shop there all the time! 😊
In my country(Croatia) they had..it was called "Hurrem colecttion" try to google and you will find:)
Me too! Thanks
There is. Weebsite
Etsy, I just discovered, has some excellent reproductions, and most quite reasonable as well...!
You can go to Jaffa, Israel and they sell many of those things. Some are real :) @@lela8081
One, I can't imagine why they paid the actress who plays Hürrem less than he who played the sultan; she should obviously have been paid more than he, as she has much more of the show on her shoulders, and many more scenes and more intense acting to do...And two, I think that the actor who plays Subul here must have been a professional dancer in his earlier days; he is so concious of the movements of his part that I suspect he himself created, and moves with great control and grace. And I hope he read this comment as well; as an ex-ballerina, it is a pleasure to see his art.
I know, it’s like him floating on water.❤️
The actress was wore out by this part, it affected her health, even her pregnancy. I was so sad she left the show because of all this and her failed relationship. That was a lot to take on through this whole production.
@@angcould And they won't won't pay her more to top it off.
I would look out my window too for Bali Bey
I think better with a thinner 'stache.
😅😅😅😅 me too
Sultan standing there like, "what did he saaaaaayyy??"
ibrahim asking gritti and bali bey to shake hands and make peace has to be the most hilarious moment 😂
also matrakci is the most goofiest harmless character in this series, he's hilarious but adorably so😂❤
the mighty, valiant and brave bali bey running away from joshua effendi's home is hilarious, good thing he's got those looks or else this entire bit is creepy 😂
When Hurrem tried to save Hatice's baby, you can clearly see the doll baby with full red hair while Hurrem is holding by the feet. Hurrem to the rescue. Queen mother warned about the sculptures ti be bad luck. The Poets warned about the sculptures to be bad luck. Ibrahim is growing more and more selfish and greed for power thats about to be the beginning of his downfall
And what was in his mouth anyway?
They are all fantastic actors to work with that ridiculous rubber baby
"PETITION TO RELEASE THE BEHIND THE SCENES OF THIS SCENE!!" 😂😂😂
ibrahim could've just said suleiman has forbidden me to talk about it and he is aware that i visit the lodge, come on, ibrahim is devious but not dumb.
also hatice is all beauty and no brain. hurrem and ibrahim might be the subjects of ottoman empire, making them her subjects, but the way she yells without actually considering the gravity of accusation is simply impulsive
Suleyman again with a woman😡. Will it ever end?? Hurrem must really leave and teach him a proper lesson. Hopefully then he will come to his senses!
I'm starting to hate Mustafa 😅 and it's really uncomfortable looking at Ibrahim and hatice together, they're just 'eh'
I thought I am alone felt this way. 😂 whenever I watched Ibrahim and hatice I forward 2x speed
@@XxsyaX me too. It is so obviously "off" --do remember that in this interpretation, Ibrahim was clearly Suleyman's pretty (sic, as he isn't very much that...) boy from the earliest days of 10 years old and counting. He is insanely jealous of Hürrem, a woman, who took Suleyman's attention away from him, and abusive and deeply violent towards the women in general, as well as the viril men who love them -- without a second' thought. Real s and m stuff, sad. Why the fine Nigra Kalfa has even the slightest interest in such is beyond comprehension...
Sultan is such a casanova
I agree Ibrahim is devious but i totally disagree with Suleiman for naming his son just because it's his sister's son. He is crossing the line here even though Ibrahim requested for it, Suleiman should have declined.
Who agrees?
It’s okay since the father asked him to name the baby. It’s customary. I saw it in Ertugrul.
It's a blessing for the Sultan to name your baby.
The West knows and called him as "Süleyman the Magnificent"
After 3 sons Ibrahim call Hurrem ( Hatun) but himself called him Pasha right after getting Seal . His ending was obvious and must
I hate suleiman he is crazy at every girl he saw, I am happy only when he is with hurrem ❤❤
Me too
Don't worry Sultan Suleiman was monogamist with Hurrem Sultan, he destroyed his Harem to he with her only. The show added other women for drama.
@@lovelydove8770 yes they did, and some of the story lines were stupid! "Faruze" for one... I never understood why the ruined her friendship with Hatice either, they could still find plenty to have drama about. It still would have been a great story line just with her battles with Ibrahim.
A Sultan with a harrem,
Hatice is too obsessed and explosive and scared and she can't run of what she's scared of, she's scared of something happening to the baby and it does happen and then she's scared she will lose Ibrahim and that also happens...Also I don't think the poison from the notebook killed the baby, they said who touches the notebook directly not who touches someone that touched the notebook, either way, it's just fiction 😅
Lord...!!! I was biting my nails and clutching my pearls this whole episode!!😬😓😮💨
Love Hurrem ❤️
Bali Bey becomes so playful around Armin🥲
Is this girl the same that plays Halime Sultan in Magnificent Century Kosem ( time frame 19:40)? She looks just like her but younger and skinnier. It would make sense since years passed between the two shows.
No, it's not the same actress. She favors the actress who plays Halime, Aslıhan Gürbüz, but it's not the same woman.
I notice the same actress this new servant of Hurrem who stole the notebook later play Nurbahanu and Selim daughter in the end?Anyone else
If this princes who tried to escape in the forest by foot really think she would make it? I think if she was a smart one she would have use the horse it would have been a lot better!!!
Kosem is beautiful..I watched the whole show
1:32:15 Mustafa needs more of the reprimanding(actually long overdue) however I think the main reason of Suleyman's anger was because his ego got a hit after Isabella's continued resistance towards him and said she'll rather die than stay there. Good on her. Suleyman needs to be pulled back in line. Not all women want him or find him attractive. He needs to be humbled. Love Hurrem like he said he does and maintain a monogamous relationship. He appears to be a great leader but he is definitely not a great romantic partner
Why name his nephew the same name as his son? 🤔 (more specifically Hurrem's son, he knows her and Ibrahim aren't really on the best terms😅🙂)
As soon as he named him mehmet I was like ‘uh oh’ none of the mehmets seem to do well or survive very long :(
Sultan Sulaiman is inlove again😂
19:10 seems like the baby is offended on being named mehmet 😂😂
Love hurrem🎉
A true ruler or Sultan is one whose subjects love him and not someone whose subjects fear him, even firmness is necessary to be exercised when the circumstance demands it. Humbly sharing my opinion ...
Did the writers have a different plot for Isabella in regards to her being freed, sent home- what the Sultan wanted?? Any thoughts
Hatice being so negative affected her relationship with ibrahim, can't even let ibrahim speak before go in full rage..
Those words hurt ibrahim's soul, her reaction and questioning was so Overacting as if Ibrahim cheated on her before 🙄
I don't understand one thing. Does Hurrem realize Ibrahim could have produced leo before Suleiman and this would have destroyed her and her children? Leo obviously knew what he was getting into. He would have faced death either way. Ibrahim would have spared him Suleiman would have killed him. His exposure would have ruined hurrem. And in times like those reputation of women was held in high regards.
That doesn't change the fact that what Ibrahim did was sadistic in and of itself. And he still killed an innocent man and threatenes children's lives. 'It could have been worse so be grateful' is a defence that abusers use.
@@hurremsultanasloved this comment.
@@gracemitchell698 Thank you.
@@hurremsultanas quite.
Ibrahim give the poison to kill Leo. Hurrum never were unfaithful to suliman she told Leo to leave because she have children's and in love with suliman.
They somehow lost Isabella's horse in the forest 😅
This episose marks the begginning of Ibrahim's downfall
Bali Bey did something that would have gotten most men either shot or in jail for being creepy.
Hatice and her other sisters, and Mahidevan aski g Mother / crying to mother for everything
Valide should know more, as a sultan running an empire is not easy and not a kind of game that you can say TIME OUT... Everyone changed when its needes
Hmmm, of course Hatice doubted Ibrahim. She's in a society where the women have little respect for their persons, there is non stop lying or refusal to even consider a woman worthy of any attention to their personal, human needs or life or their rights and responsability for freedom and Choice in their life. And in a society where depth is discouraged and replaced by many relationships in order to stop any deep real consistant contact, which would empower both the women and men to step out of the servitude and own their lives directly. Plus, as she mentioned with more tact than he, he is a little upstart, power hungry and resentful, and she smells it behind all his attentions...
Gul aga sumbul aga fight so funny😂
The one playing Princess Isabella is the lousiest and most boring annoying actor. Need a better actor to play the part. I know writers, producers and directors always go for the look but if they are not skillfully talent to play the part there is no use and sense to displaying their looks to sell their images out to the world. Its killing the story
And also it is annoying that we could hear two languages spoken at a time like literally cannot be understood. They could have just let Isabella speak her language and just put Turkish and English subtitles..
@@2012asterthat would make sense.
Is the Isabella part true to history? What was she doing sailing on a ship in the medierranean anyhow? Where was she her journey supposed to be taking her?
So the baby had a teeth in his mouth!??
I wish they would've said what it was
It was a plug of mucus
I forget the scientific name, but it's essentially placenta/mucous from being in utero
Can hurrum got thank you for helping with the baby
Evil Hurrem strike again..she's evil inside and outside. Her acting vulnerable to suleiman but behind his back shes pure evil...
U sure are mahidevil in reality if u consider hurrem evil 😂😂
@@KUKIZOtahchanu ...Just to let you know in real life,after Sultan Orhan reign,for almost 600 years the harem was in continuous turmoil,and it was all the time "solved" by evil actions taken either by Valide Sultan,or one of the wives or the "favorite" of the Sultan!
@@Globetrotter-jz2uw who cares just tell me r u hurrem fans or mahidevil fans only that matters🤣🤣
@@KUKIZOtahchanu ...Valide Sultan!
Is Hatice son died because Ibrahim touched that book and then him?Like some curse that astrolog did for Ibrahim?
He died of poison Ibrahim was absorbing through his diary. No curse or anything. Infants body stood no chance . Therefore Hurrem freaked out when she realized a child was exposed to poison. Bc she did not aim to kill a boy but Ibrahim
No , Hatice was breastfeeding and fall asleep- basically she suffocated her own child
@@izabelayoung1815It was not clearly stated as to why the baby died. The baby was premature so his immune system was weak. The poisones book might be one factor why the baby is ill and then Hatice's negligence
@@2012asteryess u and me totally same answer .coz hatice maid want to touch hatice son but hurrem decline .. i thing the one factor hatice son dies because of the poison that ibrahim touch her son 😢 poor baby ..she is innocent 😭
Why nobody's talking abt ibrahim's family where r they?
29:45 - 30:22 😂
Horrible, in islam is forbidden to have a prostitute how malko coglu has. It is totally prohibited to even look at woman who is not your wife or family. It is punishable for the men who touch unpermissible woman.
Maybe they were slave women which would make it permissible..?
All women are owners of their own bodies and sacred...there are no "unpermissable" women, though clear what you meant here. But don't keep perpetuating the system that destroys real relations between women and men...as the two brothers of muslimism do also, xtianity and their older brother....same family, and it shows -- and not well either.
@@gwirgalon3758 I agree with where you're coming from but according to Sharia law a man is allowed to bed with a slave even if they are not married.
That system has a lot of benefits for the woman involved but I forgot all of them.I will look through my notes if you want to know more
In Islam - it's what your right hand possesses. In the Gulf there are concubines and women slaves (and men too) up to this day. And those slaves could be tortured or killed. They are the property of the master.
@@olegovchinsky6177 there are no more slaves anymore
Ибрагим моя❤
Princess Isabella spanish accent and her servant not knowing a word of spanish drives me crazy
And the girl that is supposed to teach her Spanish aswell, she speaks so bad 🤣
@@Beautiful_Chaos 🤣 yea but okay she is supposed to not be native of spanish but the Princess and her servant 🤦🏻♀️
@jennylolo5179 Nah, she's supposed to be native Spanish too because why would a random ottoman slave learn Spanish? It makes more sense for her to be a Spanish woman captured by pirates and sold to the Ottomans.
@@DMp-xp6mj truee
Hatice has post partum doesn't she?
நான் இப்ராஹிம் the converted crying child of
Mahidevran is one the most beautiful in the show...😊😊😊😊😊😊team Mehidevran❤❤❤❤❤
Mahidevran is more beautiful then hurrem.
Yes she is...❤❤❤❤