Totally agree with the Prince Phantom 100X 305 is an absolute joy to use. Coupled with a good soft poly the spin generation is insane and has improved my game so much. Plus its so arm friendly for me as well!
What do you recommend for tension and string thickness for heavy topspin? My racket of choice you didn't mention Yonex vcore 100 L and the (vcore Feel) but I think it's too lightweight please feedback on all three questions.
I used the Wilson clash for a couple of years. Unbelievable spin. I could just pound at it as hard as I could and it would go in, but after a while my elbow started to hurt. So I switched to head gravity mp/tour. No elbow issues anymore. To generate top spin is harder, but doable.
Have you ever measured the generated spin of a spin racquet vs a non-spin racquet, realizing they do still generate spin from body mechanics? I’m curious on how much more spin spin-racquets provide, if at all?
I generally hit with a lot of spin and when I hit with a racket for flat hitters like the prestige and stuff the ball definitely flies lower over the net and jumps lower too, but when I play with my Vcore 98 (same as in the video) many people even complain how much spin there is and how high the ball jumps.
@@sebastianondas3073 some of that is string pattern and launch angle and some of it is mechanics. If you set up a prestige with Hyper-G or Volkl Cyclone you will see greater spin but the launch angle will not change.
The player is the base and the setup (racket, string(s) and tension(s), and modifications to weight, balance, and swing weight) will help and hinder various aspects of the players personal game. For example, if you have no power and can't serve even a pure drive won't give you this. If your swing mechanics and so on don't generate many rpms even a heavy spin oriented racket like the pure aero won't give you spin (it will give you a higher launch angle though). Likewise, if an advanced modern heavy topspin baseliner wants to go all in on spin, using a very spin oriented setup is something that player will likely adopt. This goes for good local club players all the way to elite topspin pros like Nadal, Berretini, Casper Ruud, and so on. A heavy spin oriented setup will indeed help the user generate a noticeable and perhaps useful difference in spin if the player is strong enough in this area. Take a pure aero paired with rpm blast. The Rpm blast string helps bite the ball significantly more than many other strings, so more spin with the right player. The beam shape of the pure aero is designed to swing faster. It has a thick stiff beam and an open stringbed with a 100 inch head. If you were to capture on video in slo mo the ball pushing into the strings when a player strikes it, the ball would extend further/push the strings back further than with an 18/20 blade 98. More launch, and more spin, player dependent. And many pros where heavy spin plays a huge, game defining role in their games use this kind of racket (Ruud an extended length Ezone 100, Berretini a head extreme, Nadal an original aero pro drive and so on). This goes for all aspects. Another example. Using a blade 98 doesn't give you accuracy and control if you don't have any. But if you're say a high risk/reward advanced player who has very large swings, probably more through the court opposed to heavy rpms and height, a blade 98 can help you play closer to those lines and risk a little less when playing with risk, as well as work against your swing to keep more balls in.
Hard to have a conversation about spin racquets without mentioning the Wilson Steam 99s. It's just on another plane of spin generation compared to anything I've hit with (a lot of racquets!).
@@Fred_P Yeah it occurred to me, but I don't work for the industry and thus I don't care. I put this comment in here for people interested in the racquets with most spin. And this racquet is easily available.
@@Fred_P No offense, but you don't sound like you know much about the tennis community with that comment. Did you know Andy Murray (and many other pro's) play with a 20 year old racquet? Go read the forums at Tennis Warehouse and find out the huge variations in tennis buying decisions, lol. Anyway, you can find that and almost any racquet new or lightly used in many places including ebay or tennis warehouse classifieds.
Hi, thx for the video, very interesting. Started to play tennis when i was young and 8 years before I get back to it. This 8 years i've been playing table tennis whitch its all about top spin and i was wondering what kind of rackt will be the best for it. My question is, what do you think about the Head Extreme MP abd the Vcore 100? I'm using right now an old artengo, 100square inches 285g and i dont whant to change to a much heavier racket, and this 2 are about 300g. Thx and don't forget to play some Tennis!
I have the DR98+ set up with Hyper-G at 55 lbs and its produces a ton of spin. String set up cannot be ignored in this category and I believe is almost as important as the string pattern. The biggest difference to me in the 16x19 or 18x20 debate is launch angle and life of the string.
I play with Head TiS6 with a very heavy top Spin. Do you recommend switching to Babolat or ripstick? I like my current racket due to it's light weight and oversize size.
Should try the Vcore 95, pre update if you can find one as its cheaper and better imo. I bought 2 during runout and its my "feel good" racket when i am practicing. So precise and great feel.
You mentioned that Babolat got the mould for the Pure Aero from Pro Kennex ... What's the story with that? Pro Kennex seem to be a much smaller player in the tennis racket market than they used to, but they still make some rackets. Why not make something to like a Pure Aero themselves (or had they in the past)??
fun fact: ezone 98 appears amazingly comfortable with tons of control and some power. But if you're unlucky and have weak arms I guess, it sneakily will destroy your arm (right AND left if you have a two-handed backhand) fairly quickly.
Ezone would be my suggestion and string it with a hybrid or "soft" poly if you have any arm issue at all and you will be fine. I have an elbow issue and use Volkl Cyclone 16g @ 55lbs and I'm fine but that's just me.
When I reviewed it the first time, I liked the Pro more, but when I revisited the racquets for the NITE paint job, I preferred the Tour with 2g lead at 12 and 5g lead in the handle.
Angell TC97 16x19 provided an amazing amount of spin for me and is a better quality frame. Surprised you didn't mention any Angell frames in this post.
I think it's out dude! Isn't that 98L www.tennis-warehouse.com/Yonex_VCORE_98L/descpageRCYONEX-VCR98L.html I got vcore 98 but due to injury I can't try it out yet! It's torture. Atleast I demoed it
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Totally agree with the Prince Phantom 100X 305 is an absolute joy to use. Coupled with a good soft poly the spin generation is insane and has improved my game so much. Plus its so arm friendly for me as well!
What is a soft poly mean??
What do you recommend for tension and string thickness for heavy topspin? My racket of choice you didn't mention Yonex vcore 100 L and the (vcore Feel) but I think it's too lightweight please feedback on all three questions.
Love to see the MKBHD shoutout, and thanks for the racquet info! Very much a spin-dependent player so I found this video very helpful.
Hello! Wilson Blade 98s is an absolute monster, especially for spin production! Strung with a control-oriented like Luxilon 4g and never looked back..
agreed. love it with head hawk touch and rpm blast rough
@@kevinle5460 Yes! Very good options too! What tension do you string?
I used the Wilson clash for a couple of years. Unbelievable spin. I could just pound at it as hard as I could and it would go in, but after a while my elbow started to hurt. So I switched to head gravity mp/tour. No elbow issues anymore. To generate top spin is harder, but doable.
How is it possible to get elbow pain from a clash lol
Have you ever measured the generated spin of a spin racquet vs a non-spin racquet, realizing they do still generate spin from body mechanics? I’m curious on how much more spin spin-racquets provide, if at all?
I generally hit with a lot of spin and when I hit with a racket for flat hitters like the prestige and stuff the ball definitely flies lower over the net and jumps lower too, but when I play with my Vcore 98 (same as in the video) many people even complain how much spin there is and how high the ball jumps.
@@sebastianondas3073 some of that is string pattern and launch angle and some of it is mechanics. If you set up a prestige with Hyper-G or Volkl Cyclone you will see greater spin but the launch angle will not change.
@@jasonshoffner1089 I know but the rackets were strung the same and it definitely had less spin than my vcores
The player is the base and the setup (racket, string(s) and tension(s), and modifications to weight, balance, and swing weight) will help and hinder various aspects of the players personal game.
For example, if you have no power and can't serve even a pure drive won't give you this. If your swing mechanics and so on don't generate many rpms even a heavy spin oriented racket like the pure aero won't give you spin (it will give you a higher launch angle though).
Likewise, if an advanced modern heavy topspin baseliner wants to go all in on spin, using a very spin oriented setup is something that player will likely adopt. This goes for good local club players all the way to elite topspin pros like Nadal, Berretini, Casper Ruud, and so on. A heavy spin oriented setup will indeed help the user generate a noticeable and perhaps useful difference in spin if the player is strong enough in this area.
Take a pure aero paired with rpm blast. The Rpm blast string helps bite the ball significantly more than many other strings, so more spin with the right player. The beam shape of the pure aero is designed to swing faster. It has a thick stiff beam and an open stringbed with a 100 inch head. If you were to capture on video in slo mo the ball pushing into the strings when a player strikes it, the ball would extend further/push the strings back further than with an 18/20 blade 98. More launch, and more spin, player dependent. And many pros where heavy spin plays a huge, game defining role in their games use this kind of racket (Ruud an extended length Ezone 100, Berretini a head extreme, Nadal an original aero pro drive and so on).
This goes for all aspects. Another example. Using a blade 98 doesn't give you accuracy and control if you don't have any. But if you're say a high risk/reward advanced player who has very large swings, probably more through the court opposed to heavy rpms and height, a blade 98 can help you play closer to those lines and risk a little less when playing with risk, as well as work against your swing to keep more balls in.
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He's got an Arthur Ashe Comp II in the background!
Love how you separated the spin categories. We’ll done.
Hard to have a conversation about spin racquets without mentioning the Wilson Steam 99s. It's just on another plane of spin generation compared to anything I've hit with (a lot of racquets!).
i hit with the wilson Juice 100S(16x15). I would say it has more spin than the steam. I have hit with both
It didn't occur to you that he only mentions racquets that are produced and sold as new today?
@@Fred_P Yeah it occurred to me, but I don't work for the industry and thus I don't care. I put this comment in here for people interested in the racquets with most spin. And this racquet is easily available.
@@bwiz6514 Easily available unused? Most people aren't interested in buying someone else's beat up old racquets.
@@Fred_P No offense, but you don't sound like you know much about the tennis community with that comment. Did you know Andy Murray (and many other pro's) play with a 20 year old racquet? Go read the forums at Tennis Warehouse and find out the huge variations in tennis buying decisions, lol. Anyway, you can find that and almost any racquet new or lightly used in many places including ebay or tennis warehouse classifieds.
Hi, thx for the video, very interesting. Started to play tennis when i was young and 8 years before I get back to it. This 8 years i've been playing table tennis whitch its all about top spin and i was wondering what kind of rackt will be the best for it. My question is, what do you think about the Head Extreme MP abd the Vcore 100? I'm using right now an old artengo, 100square inches 285g and i dont whant to change to a much heavier racket, and this 2 are about 300g. Thx and don't forget to play some Tennis!
Prince TT310 should have made this list
20% of this video is an ad
Correction, 40%. Didn’t realize there were more advertisements coming
Great video as always Jonas!
I get a pretty good amount of spin out of my ezone98 setup with hyper-g low 50's tension.
I have the DR98+ set up with Hyper-G at 55 lbs and its produces a ton of spin. String set up cannot be ignored in this category and I believe is almost as important as the string pattern. The biggest difference to me in the 16x19 or 18x20 debate is launch angle and life of the string.
I play with Head TiS6 with a very heavy top Spin. Do you recommend switching to Babolat or ripstick? I like my current racket due to it's light weight and oversize size.
What about the blade 98s?
I want a control racquet. Am thinking about the Yonex Ezone 98 pro.
Should try the Vcore 95, pre update if you can find one as its cheaper and better imo. I bought 2 during runout and its my "feel good" racket when i am practicing. So precise and great feel.
Ezone is not control based my friend. Ezone is like a pure drive. The vcore pros are the control in the yonex line
Pure aero is best for making spin 🎾 try it with allu power or babolat rough rpm or solinco torbite your not gonna be regret
You mentioned that Babolat got the mould for the Pure Aero from Pro Kennex ... What's the story with that? Pro Kennex seem to be a much smaller player in the tennis racket market than they used to, but they still make some rackets. Why not make something to like a Pure Aero themselves (or had they in the past)??
Between ezone 98, vcore 98 (2021) and pure drive 2021 which one has more control and is more arm friendly?
fun fact: ezone 98 appears amazingly comfortable with tons of control and some power. But if you're unlucky and have weak arms I guess, it sneakily will destroy your arm (right AND left if you have a two-handed backhand) fairly quickly.
Ezone would be my suggestion and string it with a hybrid or "soft" poly if you have any arm issue at all and you will be fine. I have an elbow issue and use Volkl Cyclone 16g @ 55lbs and I'm fine but that's just me.
Ezone 98 is most arm friendly between these tree
Is the head extreme tour the same as the pro (yellow and black version) I’m considering getting the older version compared to the new one
Can u do control power rquets
can u do a jannik sinner racket review?
Which one would you recommend for a beginner tennis player?
I would say the aero
I thought you liked the Extreme Tour. In this video you say Extreme Pro is your favorite?
When I reviewed it the first time, I liked the Pro more, but when I revisited the racquets for the NITE paint job, I preferred the Tour with 2g lead at 12 and 5g lead in the handle.
Angell TC97 16x19 provided an amazing amount of spin for me and is a better quality frame. Surprised you didn't mention any Angell frames in this post.
I’ve been dying to try the new Vcore 98. I’m torn between buying one now or waiting until the extended length version comes out and trying that one
I think it's out dude! Isn't that 98L
www.tennis-warehouse.com/Yonex_VCORE_98L/descpageRCYONEX-VCR98L.html
I got vcore 98 but due to injury I can't try it out yet! It's torture. Atleast I demoed it
@@brana1646 The 98l is the light weight version. New plus version should be out soon
Without watching I’m assuming head extreme and pure aero will be inside
Why top spin is more effective on clay?
Awesome
Ezone with hyper G at 48 lbs.
You should have added the new babolat pure drive as well! 🤔
I am able to create an good topspin with my ezone 100.
well topspin is majority technique so 👍
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Any racquets from tecnofibre that are good for spin? Just wondering
Why do some spin players like Thiem and Edmund use 18x20?
It provides a lot more control, however, you lose spin for it on the downside.
Because control
Because they can impart their own spin&power.... The 18/20 helps control the balls placement.
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