USMNT: September failures & no identity | Now winless in last four matches | Morning Footy
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- The Morning Footy discuss this latest international window for the USMNT and everything that has gone wrong. The team is winless in their last 4 matches now and only scored two goals total in their last two friendlies against Canada and New Zealand. Yes, Mauricio Pochettino is now official, but that doesn't speak for what has been transpiring as of late. Charlie Davies weighs in on the differences between this current team vs when he was on the USMNT. Is it lack of leadership? Are the players just not good enough? Who is to blame? The group then chat about Gregg Berhalter and what he was able to accomplish during his stretch at the helm.
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Media overhypes then criticizes the players. Can’t make this up.
Especially pulisic and reyna. All their life they’re always on the bench. How are these players considered “world class” is beyond anybody guess.
The media and USMNT social media overhype any young player playing in Europe even if they haven’t done anything. They could be 21 years old playing for Dortmund II and get hype.
Agreed and I think it's just not the media but the federation and the brands that sponsor each player that magnify the hype. With the exception of Pulisic non of these players has achieved a level of success that warrants the hype but brands want to sell product and the federation wants to sell tickets so they create artificial hype. Give me a team full of guys as talented and hungry to win as Clint Dempsey and watch how far we can go.
stop sayin' this is a golden generation, just because they play in european clubs doesnt mean they're stars or phenomenal players, hundred of average players from south-america/north-america are now playing in europe
Belgium has their golden generation and they haven't won anything
It's a term relative to the talent level of the current pool
This is definitely our golden generation
@@FumarMota From 1988-2016, Belgium qualified for one Euros. This generation put them in the quarters twice. After having missing the WCs in 2006 and 2010, they made the quarters in 2014 and finished 3rd in 2018. They haven't won, but have been far more competitive for far longer than Belgium has historically. This US generation has worse results than the one that existed a decade ago. They are no worse than 50-50 to finish this year with a losing record. Also, the US pool does not have an elite goalie. Howard, Friedel, and Keller were. The US has had one for almost all of this century. That is far from insignificant when assessing the pool. If the "more talented" attack still struggles to put up a crooked number, and the goalies aren't great to erase mistakes, then then the team isn't that good.
This team got out of group and has won every tournament in CONCACAF
But that's besides the point the term golden generation is relative to talent in the player pool not accomplishments
We've never had a collection of talent like we do now hence golden generation
The hope is that dovetails into world dominance but that's not always the case
Belgium lost to Wales in Euros that doesn't make them not a golden generation
@@FumarMota The whole decade of being in contention in every competition they have been when that is far from the norm for a country of less than 12 million people makes them a special generation of players. That country knows it is far from likely they have another Hazard, Lukaku, De Bruyne, Vertonghen, Witsel, and Coutois come along at the same time for them.
This US team lost at home to Panama to get eliminated in the group. They scored three goals in four games at the last WC. They have also split the past two Gold Cups, which is basically par for the course regardless as to what caliber of team gets sent. You cannot compare the performances for this team to the one that made the semis of the 2016 Copa and lost in extra time to Belgium a decade ago in a tournament where they could actually score in a tougher group. Those teams played better, and got better results.
This is by no means a golden generation. Our players in Europe (excluding CP ) are scrubs and can barely get any playing time.
Nico hit it on the head (without saying it directly). This team plays really hard when they are all driven to beat a team like England, and then lack that hunger against other opponents. They have to have that intensity, drive, and hunger when playing top teams AND lower teams - and they don't.
Golden generation 😂😂😂that’s a disgrace to all the other generation of USMNT
Last time the US had a run like this (4 straight games winless with at least 3 losses) was Oct/Nov 2018.
The difference? Their opponents were Italy/England/Peru/Colombia. This time it is Panama/Uruguay/Canada/NewZealand. Stark difference in the competition they are losing to.
I would like to see how Scally/Fossey would do in a similar situation that Emma Hayes uses Fox/Rodman. Fox is the typical RB that often stays with the CBs acting as a back 3 as the team builds out and Dunn/Rodman were more of wingbacks with ability to create in the attack. Scally I feel has done a lot to impress defensively and when we look at the CB situation I think we get a lot out of shifting him like this.
I Agree. He could actually be a decent CB, especially in a Back 3. He has athleticism and is technical enough to be good in that position. I actually hope he gets more reps in the CB role
Moving to CB for any player is a massive task. You would need him first to at least play that on his club team. But they love him at Wright back. So I don’t see him shifting to Center back for the national team. Though it would be nice because I trust him more than any of our current Center back pool. Which is sad considering that’s not his position.
@@MaximusTheChosenOne players get moved around positions without previously playing the position before. If you have a good coach that can get the role across and a willing player, then that would be enough. We have already seen Scally handle some of the best attacking threats in South America this year - the complaints are about what he provides going forward. This could take a player that has some good strengths and is very young, then allow him to strengthen one of our weakest areas of the roster.
We’ll be fine once we get Dest and Jedi back
@@RickyRicardo84 they are even bigger beneficiaries of doing something like this though. both are very useful further up the field and Scally has been a more consistent defender than most of the CBs have
USNMT is 🤏 outside of CONCACAF.....
Amén 🙌
It’s that simple we are the worst confederation besides Oceania 😂
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@@aceriggs what’s the difference 😂 we are both down bad. USA is BEYOND overrated and y’all had to find out the hard way
@@Tonynotsoprano the difference is we own Mexico. It's just funny Mexico is like "haha your team is so bad". You mean the team you haven't beat in like five years?
Berhalter isn’t to blame for the mediocrity and passiveness of the squad?!
Charlie WTH are you on??
He was in charge for six years, that kind of culture permeated into the team.
Charlie says that it isn't fair to blame Berhalter for the lack of leadership and drive on this team and in the same segment he says the team played there best under BJ. Um, hello Charlie... the difference in their play was the COACH! He was a very inspiring manager while Berhalter was very drab.
Drab? Are you serious?
Ok I agree. 😂 But still... Mr. Executive seminars seemed to struggle with a bit more than that.
There is no leadership, no accountability, no passion, no grit, no desire
Hope Pochettino brings that out of them
This is the biggest challenge he has ever faced in his coaching career
Shouldn’t be too hard.. a lot of these guys are actually coached by great talent at their clubs.. they’re just used to seeing USMNT international breaks as summer camp because of Berhalter. They’ll get in line real quick once Poch comes in.
You always say that the U.S. team, under Berhalter did really well right up until after the World cup in 2022, winning all big tournaments.
Actually, the U.S. team only tied 4th place Costa Rica for points in the all important qualifiers for that World cup, while Canada finished #1.
Of course all countries had to play home & away in the qualifiers, so the U.S. struggled playing on the road (they didn't even qualify in 2018). Luckily 95% of their matches are played at home & almost 100% in all other tournaments since that World cup & that huge advantage will continue through the World cup in 2026.
I legitimately can't tell the difference between the complete and incomplete passes on the graphic 😂 could you consider making the colors more diverse on that graphic next time for the color deficient among us?
Winless in their last 4 matches!!! HOORAY!!!
I HOPE they keep that streak going! 🙏
You guys nailed the many variables of what is wrong...hoping the new coach can turn it around.
This team's real first important game under Pochettino will be the 2026 fifa world cup. Nations league and gold cup don't count in my view.
This team has no leader let's be honest no one to hold everyone accountable.
Picking on Joe Scally's offensive contributions vs. Canada when he was up against their best player (Alphonso Davies) and when the US midfield was overall poor seems unduly harsh.
Thank you Jesse Marsch 🇨🇦
It is dumb the compare scally and fossey when fossey had a weaker team to play against
Standard U.S pundits, this is why U.S futbol culture doesn’t get taken serious. People like this make us look bad
Also a different playing tactics, Scally lined up against Davies…
"Golden Generation" no, more like "Fool's Gold Generation."
That attitude when talking about who New Zealand play in World Cup qualifying is what’s wrong with the men’s national team. They have an arrogance that is not earned. Stop making the team out to be better than what they actually are. The missing players would not make a difference. The same bs attitude was there when those players were there. Get rid of these spoiled players and bring in hungry players
The missing players would not have made a difference? You really think Adams, Mckennie, Robinson, Dest, and Reyna would have made no difference. Have you watched Antonee Robinson play in the lat year?
You really think we aren’t on a different level than New Zealand when we are healthy and have a coach?
How on earth do you have Davies on here and not Jimmy Conrad?!? Davies is a wet blanket
lol what
Can’t believe this conversation lol
I don't understand the desire for Pepi to start over Balogun who was our best player at Copa America. How many chances did Pepi miss against Bolivia and Panama? Loads. Pepi hasn't earned a start at the 9 - it's simple.
Balogun is just as bad
@@MaximusTheChosenOne No he's not, we literally have data from the Copa to prove it. Balogun was our most dangerous player and any threat to score against Uruguay ended when he left the pitch in the first half due to injury. Pepi on the other hand squandered numerous easy chances the first two games and made no difference against Uruguay. I do love Pepi and he may have the highest ceiling amongst our 9's, but he needs a loan that sees him get into rhythm.
When you say stop playing out of the back if you are having trouble breaking the other team’s press, what specifically would you do? Long kicks by the goalkeeper and long goal kicks? Anything else? Maybe focus on rapid counter-attack. It’s hard to tell from watching on TV because you can’t see the whole field, but I thought a lot of the fault when we lost the ball was on the target player rather than the passer. It seemed like the forwards coming back for the ball didn’t make enough space to have time to control or pass the ball before the pressure arrived. The opposing defenders ran faster toward the ball than our target forwards and put them under immediate pressure. Perhaps the team just needs to practice on coordinating the runs back by the attackers with the passes from the defenders - have some understanding between forwards and defenders before the game about exactly where the forwards players will show for the ball. And then it is the forward’s responsibility to get there well before the opponent. Like for example - as often as possible Balogun will start from kickoff spot and run back diagonally at full speed to the right side of midfield. And when Fossey sees him do that he will always sprint toward the sideline where Balo will be able to quickly drop him the ball. Know where each player is going to run to give the teammate a quick outlet. And if the defender seems to be anticipating Balo’s run so that the team needs to adjust, have it agreed in advance which player will give some signal and then Balo will shift his run to starting the same diagonal back run but then turn quickly and go long, so the defender can drop the ball in behind. I wonder if individual groups of 2-3 players, when in or near the same cities, could get together some times outside of the formal camps to work on talking and walking through these systems as a way to try to overcome the limit on team time in camp. Opponents know now that we struggle to break the press, they will usually press us. So do some extra work to prepare for this. And if one guy does the extra work, he starts over the guy that doesn’t. And if in practice somebody fails to be in the agreed spot when needed, he does a ball buster sprint. That is one thing I’d focus on if I were coach. That and have both U.S. soccer and individual highly paid stars put in some money to identify talent at six years old and then give “scholarships” sponsoring underprivileged promising kids to travel to good training and competition.
Thought pepi had a terrible window lmao
Charlie's part right they need a leader, not just Poch, Adams or a McKennie need to become Poch's Roy Keane, the guy that demands better from his teammates and isn't afraid to get in people's faces if they're letting the side down
Bro the USMNT media and US Soccer media overhype any American player, if they play for the second team of a European team the US Soccer media will be glazing them
@@Dominic_Zuom. do you not think the English media does the same with their players?
@vinylhorror I know the English media does the same thing with their players aleast England have a history of producing world class talent and legendary players, so for them to hype up the young English is fine cause some of the players actually go on to be a world class player and impactful one to meanwhile the US just don't
You Americans talk too much about your below average team.
Humble yourselves. STOP talking about your weak team like they're top tier.
I’m not sure who’s worse Alexi Lalas or Charlie
Too much blame being put on the caretaker. He is blamed for something he didnt even sign up for. He isnt there to change things, he is there to give everyone minutes, no more no less. In fact i would only criticize him if he tried to change something, waste everybody’s time for a week. only for poch to tell them hey forget everything he said. Blame the players if they dont fight. They’re adults
😂😂😂😂😂 our son: U$A
😂 USA owns your country
who's the drunk?
Stop calling this trash shitty ahh team a Golden Generation. Let me give the definition of Golden generation. A Golden Generation is a team of that is filled with world class players at every position and are considered an Elite team and win major competitions and make deep runs at major tournaments. The usmnt have no world clas players they are not considered an elite team and they don't make deep runs an major tournaments they are terrible and the US Soccer media overhype this team way to much just cause they beat a weak team like mexico, but when they go up against stronger comp they get treated like children
When professional players fail, I don’t think commentators and fans should say they were not trying. How would you know? Maybe the coach or teammates could address that. But usually when a fan says someone is not trying it just means the fan is disappointed that the player was not effective on that day. I really don’t think, when the USMNT fails to win, that it is likely caused by a widespread player lack of effort. There are skill levels, speed, conditioning and injury issues, tactics and other things that affect outcomes. Effort is essential,but not sufficient, and lack of success does not necessarily indicate lack of effort. If it makes people feel good to complain about the effort level, fine, but I don’t think that such complaining is likely to have much benefit. Do you think that all it would have taken for the U.S. team to perform better in this window is more effort? There are other issues to address.
No one on earth is saying the only reason we played poorly this window is because of effort. And if you actually watch this team play every game, you can clearly see the intensity difference that has occurred over the last year (unless we're playing Mexico). Maybe some casual viewers say that because a player wasn't effective, but anyone who follows this team regularly over the years can easily tell how things have changed. Most people are complaining about it because they aren't new here. I can't speak for the ones who are.
The real answer for this usmnt is you guys have to bring back coach bladly n you have to do it now going to thus wc are forget about wc bradly knows usa team in n out young n old players he,s the man to coach them
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You guys have rose colored glasses for sure.
Tyler Adam’s being a leader my god Charlie stop glazing bro
I'm so hopeful for Poch I think he will change the roster and he will make revision.🙏🇺🇲
I know it’s a trend, but they should really banned mugs & cups from the table it looks so unprofessional especially when they start drinking when the camera is on them. Hide it under the table everyone is so lax nowadays
Boot licker
These guys are clowns
Considering the idiotic things said on this show they should probably check what they are drinking in those mugs 😂
It was a meaningless window and the players knew it. The fact you're trying to take it so seriously is actually funny.
wtf are you talking about. The players knew this was a chance to showcase themselves before the October window to the new coach.
@@MaximusTheChosenOne I guarantee you 100% Poch already knows who's in his initial squad. This camp isn't influencing jack.
😳🤔, Pochettino Mindset towards the United States 🇺🇸 Team will be the timeless African Proverb- It better to be a Lion 🦁 for a day then a Sheep 🐑 all your life 😳🤔
Has the USMNT ever had a better more talented group of players??
The answer is clearly NO...which makes this our golden generation
This isn't rocket science or brain surgery its pretty cut and dry
Being a golden generation is mutually exclusive from achievement and accomplishment although in most cases the two are concurrent
Again Belgium is in the tail end of their golden generation and they haven't won a single trophy
We've won TWO Nation's League trophies and are dominating the region and have our A squad all in Europe
You have to perform Olympic level mental gymnastics to argue this isn't our golden generation
Tyler adams aint no leader man you have to be on the field to be a leader
True but Davies is not wrong, there are zero players in this pool that will get in another players face
Tyler Adams was the youngest team captain in the last World Cup.. of course he’s a leader.. he just can’t lead this team because he’s made out of glass.
@RickyRicardo84 it literally means nothing when you look at the options
It's not like ramos is walking through that door or pepe. You have the likes of him zimmerman and matt turner as competition for captaincy
@@ozukabeats2456 lol I’ll agree with that.. this team is so soft.
😳🤔, Pochettino Mindset towards the United States 🇺🇸 Team will be the timeless African Proverb- It better to be a Lion 🦁 for a day then a Sheep 🐑 all your life 😳🤔