Phil Jaynes My video copy of this broke some time ago.....I've told the story a few times so now I have psuedo celebrity to back my claim......it's still a little hard to watch.....hope life finds you well Phil.......and kids, once again.....don't do what we did!
I'm curious why the engines were running while docked? They weren't leaving, were they? Morten, I fly twins - since when is #2 started first? We'd alternate when in the King Air. If a particular plane only has one hydraulic pump, that's the engine that's started first.
dieselyeti I can only assume they were pushing the aft end of the ship up to the dock. If you watch closely you can see the rudder turning to starboard.
Ship's propellers is one of my biggest fears. I can't even imagine to see any ship propeller underwater. At least I'm calm I know that there are others who have the same phobia!!
The condition you probably have is Thalassophobia. An intense fear of the ocean and large submerged objects. Submechanophobia is a portmanteau that some people use. It is really just a variant of Thalassophobia, but is used to define a more specific fear of submerged objects that are "man-made". However, to my knowledge, this is not an officially recognized medical condition, and symptoms associated with Submechanophobia are considered to be part of Thalassaphobia. If you were to look for this word on the Oxford Phobia Archive, you would never find it.
Thanks for the correct denomination. It's rare that people take time to share their knowledge on YT. Normally I would have looked up (what turned out to be) this portmanteau before posting my reply, but since the subject is pretty esoteric I boldly assumed "submechanophobia" was correct. I'd also say that there's little to no impetus in trying to classify this specific "phobia" as it arguably is valid as a rational fear and isn't socially inhibiting in any serious way, say unlike agora- or claustrophobia. I've talked to some amateur divers and while they have no problems diving down to a shipwreck in shallow waters the idea of a huge ship of 40,000 tons floating right above them makes them feel uneasy.
In addition to the ships main propulsion gear, there are many other hazards associated with diving an active ship. Specifically, there are many powerful water intake ports located throughout the hull that could injure or kill a diver quickly. I'm surprised you guys didn't start to move when the engines were started, which can clearly be heard happening at 0:55.
No a diver couldn't literally get sucked in as the intake ports are covered with grating, however the suction is powerful enough to easily injure or kill a diver. The intake ports or "sea chests" as they're known are connected to large centrifugal pumps that provide the ships various needs with sea water. They are a known hazard when diving an active ship and is one of the many reasons why that equipment needs to be locked and tagged so as not to operate accidentally whenever divers are down.
Oh ok, wow that is some seriously frightening stuff! Thank you for the response. As much as I am horrified by this I find it extremely fascinating to learn about.
If you look closely you see that these are variable pitch propeller which mean that they are very fast at changing direction. They always spin in this direction weather they pull or push water. The amount of luck in this is incredible.
I'll wager someone got their ass chewed out when you got back on board. Suggestion from a salvage/repair diver that I heard: "If you ever do a dive to inspect a hull, even if it just a sailboat with a 2.5hp outboard, you WILL have the ship's keys on you and the engines disabled by lockout before you go overboard. Do NOT trust word of mouth or written signs in these kind of situations." Someone could have lost their life on that clip. I'm glad you two got out of the way and clear of them.
Mike, Phil *I saw your comments about how you are thankful that you survived and for kid not to do this including your names but I’m not a stalker* I am soooo thankful that you survived that, yes it wasn’t a very good decision, but at least you survived IN ONE PIECE...I hope you have a good day and I hope that no one does this because it is really dangerous!
We had run aground a couple of weeks prior so we wanted to see the damage. If you look close you'll see the paint scraped off the rudder. I'll post the footage of the damaged bow when I get a chance.
If I was the one in charge of such maintenance and qualified to dive, I would first lock out the controls, then do my work and unlock said controls when done.
buddy of mine was diving not far away from a ferry terminal, he didn't realize but he ended up making his way underwater around the breakwater and into the part where the ferry comes in and goes out. Next thing he heard was a loud rumbling getting closer and closer until he looked up and saw the 2 massive screws from the ferry passing over his head.
Those propellers looked like control pitched propellers, and they also looked like they were in a neutral position if so when they spin they wont create any kind of thrust to suck in the divers so they were lucky
Not quite as Hollywood-intense as the prop scenes in Indiana Jones 3 or Speed 2:, but that's pretty much enough to never, ever, ever get me into hull cleaning or inspection.
That was awsome I wish he would have turned the camera back to see them both turning. A turning prop in the water is the most Fastinating thing I would have swam away by and get blow back by the wash. I love a propeller in the water. I bet the second guy shit when he finally saw the prop start.
The reason the propeller is running is beacause they are constant speed / variable pitch propellers and only spin in one direction but the blades change pitch. You can spin them all day at zero pitch and not move.
Was there something in your opinion that the first diver could have done? It's not like he can yell to he's friend and trying to signal with body movements seems kinda fucking retarted anyway since your friend propably can see by your panic filled type of swimming.
The thing is that they are variable pitch propellers so they always turn like this, except that they might change the angle in the wrong direction so they get sucked in.
Dude , when i dive i stay away from any propeller, ships or juste ANY BOAT i love diving, but Boats are my phobia. Not when IM in the boat, but when i'm diving next to a boat i'm reeeeally scared. I'll never do what you've done. Just the start of this video scared me. I was saying in my head: "imagine if that big sharp blade start to turn, imagine if that big thing shred this diver..." when suddently i saw it start. Just this video scared me
should have known what was happening when that rudder started moving. all ships do that before departing the dock. they check for rudder response and wheel wash.. We didn't do that once before departing darwin, australia and only realized days later we didn't have a port propeller.
Wow you were REALLY lucky, Not trying to be rude, but you should always let the bridge of a boat know if you are diving beneath. Hell that is my worst nightmare lol... great video though, thank you for uploading.
@@montiro8999 The biggest propeller ever made had a diameter of about 12 meters. Although still very, very big, a propeller with a diameter of 9 meters like you mention is not that uncommon in the biggest cruise ships.
The very stuff of my nightmares. I have no idea why, since I've never even been close to a running ship propeller, but I'm scared to death of them. Even seeing one in a dry dock, or even on a ship in a goddamn museum will give me the creeps.
Of course, this is a very dangerous situation, but as long as the CP propeller is set to 0% pitch, as it seems here, there are good chances to get away without being sucked in it.
Good thing those props went into forward thrust!!!!!! Not sure you would be alive being that close had they gone into reverse. WOW!!!!! NIGHTMARE FOR SURE!!!
Captain of the Jade told us how much tension is on those lines while tied to the dock….. why was propulsion turned on WHILE still docked? Those propellers should never be turning while those lines are tied and tensioned. What I was told when I asked a crew member about this video.
My question is, the air bubbles forming bcs he’s swimming or from the running propeller? Bcs if it is coming from that propeller, I’ll be scared af if that thing would suck me in and I’m chop chopped. The worst thing I think could happen to me when I’m diving. Thank god I don’t even know how to swim. Don’t wanna be near that thing that could probably get me kill. Lol
Dogsboll Ox: If you haven't seen it ck out: ""Rollie's Segment--from Dive Emergency Procedures"" T-5:54, concerning:> a missed communication between divers and ships machinery operations, some shipboard personnel not alert to diver safety regulations or needs, and the serious consequences of a breakdown anywhere in the chain of those involved.
he was EXTREMELY lucky the port side propeller started first
the prop would blow him away
@@Deezorz It would not. At least the port side one is running in reverse.
@@Alexander470815 No it's not spinning in reverse. But I cant tell if the blades can rotate to change thrust direction.
yes they can
@@nikolatesla1296 Starboard is the right side.
Giaant underwater spinning turbines are my worst fear
Rustic poptart2174 same ship propellers scare me
Same
Same
submechanophobia
SAME!!! I’m afraid to be in the water near the ship just because
If anyone is still wondering, I'm alive.........and yes we were stupid for being there, kids don't do what we did.......
Dogsbol Ox This you Mike? I was wondering how long it would take for you to see this online.
Phil Jaynes My video copy of this broke some time ago.....I've told the story a few times so now I have psuedo celebrity to back my claim......it's still a little hard to watch.....hope life finds you well Phil.......and kids, once again.....don't do what we did!
Dogsbol Ox Hey Mike, life finds me well with a wife and two boys. It still makes me nervous to watch. Hope life has been good to you.
Phil Jaynes awwwww you guys just now clicking back up ?
+Dogsboll Ox Yes, you were. At least you admit it and learned your lesson in one piece.
A lesson to all swimmers: never swim under cruise ships; they have propellers.
Erik Weseman i think its no cruise ship.
Not true... Jetboat?
Nicholaus Ewing-Pistelak he said ships not boat!
Nicholaus Ewing-Pistelak a jet boat isn't a ship is it huh?
There are ships powered by water jets (HSS Discovery).
Well THAT will teach you not to dive docked ships without an ok from the bridge...
Nightmare fuel. Yikes.
dieselyeti Do you think the bridge would have given us permission? Not......we were young and stupid.....but I'm still alive 24 years later.....
Sure. And lucky it was the portside prop that started turning and not the starboard side..
dieselyeti I have always wondered if the guy in the engine room had a choice........
I'm curious why the engines were running while docked? They weren't leaving, were they?
Morten, I fly twins - since when is #2 started first? We'd alternate when in the King Air. If a particular plane only has one hydraulic pump, that's the engine that's started first.
dieselyeti I can only assume they were pushing the aft end of the ship up to the dock. If you watch closely you can see the rudder turning to starboard.
omg, right out of my biggest nightmare/phobia! I hate ships and other manmade things underwater! You guys are the bravest to dive there!
ohh i agree thats sooo fuckin scary.......
TwoSevenElevenEighty
Holy crap. I thought I was the only one to
I absolutely love Marine Propellers but at the same time I am shit scared of them! This is my worst nightmare on video!
Yeah.The ship propellers scare me so much D:Being next to them would be my greatest nigthmare.
Ship's propellers is one of my biggest fears. I can't even imagine to see any ship propeller underwater. At least I'm calm I know that there are others who have the same phobia!!
what is it called when you have a huge fear of propellers? like I just shiver seeing a propeller in the water. deep sea things freak me out.
submechanophobia
McLarenMercedes Mk.. Thanks
The condition you probably have is Thalassophobia. An intense fear of the ocean and large submerged objects.
Submechanophobia is a portmanteau that some people use. It is really just a variant of Thalassophobia, but is used to define a more specific fear of submerged objects that are "man-made". However, to my knowledge, this is not an officially recognized medical condition, and symptoms associated with Submechanophobia are considered to be part of Thalassaphobia. If you were to look for this word on the Oxford Phobia Archive, you would never find it.
Thanks for the correct denomination. It's rare that people take time to share their knowledge on YT. Normally I would have looked up (what turned out to be) this portmanteau before posting my reply, but since the subject is pretty esoteric I boldly assumed "submechanophobia" was correct.
I'd also say that there's little to no impetus in trying to classify this specific "phobia" as it arguably is valid as a rational fear and isn't socially inhibiting in any serious way, say unlike agora- or claustrophobia.
I've talked to some amateur divers and while they have no problems diving down to a shipwreck in shallow waters the idea of a huge ship of 40,000 tons floating right above them makes them feel uneasy.
xxFalconArasxx I have it
In addition to the ships main propulsion gear, there are many other hazards associated with diving an active ship. Specifically, there are many powerful water intake ports located throughout the hull that could injure or kill a diver quickly. I'm surprised you guys didn't start to move when the engines were started, which can clearly be heard happening at 0:55.
mosipd You can also see the rudders turning.
What he means is before that you can hear the diesel power plant start up.
Only asking cause I don't know anything about ships at all but could an intake port suck a diver in or something?
No a diver couldn't literally get sucked in as the intake ports are covered with grating, however the suction is powerful enough to easily injure or kill a diver. The intake ports or "sea chests" as they're known are connected to large centrifugal pumps that provide the ships various needs with sea water. They are a known hazard when diving an active ship and is one of the many reasons why that equipment needs to be locked and tagged so as not to operate accidentally whenever divers are down.
Oh ok, wow that is some seriously frightening stuff! Thank you for the response. As much as I am horrified by this I find it extremely fascinating to learn about.
So let me get this straight: you went diving near the stern without telling the Bridge? That was foolish; you're lucky it wasn't a lot worse.
skotiskiller
lol
But they won’t let you dive if you ask first.
@@nocalsteve they have a good reason for not allowing it tho
There in lies the problem. Fool!
It’s their job idiot
25% chance of dying sliced like a sashimi. Lucky the starboard prop didn't start first and wasn't in reverse mode.
Start wouldn't be the problem I guess since the diver would be blown away to safety. But turning backwards would ended up in diver sashimi.
and another 50% chance to be lucky and be sucked in to left proppeler
He was at the side of the ship's propellers so if they started the right propeller it wouldn't end well for him
If you look closely you see that these are variable pitch propeller which mean that they are very fast at changing direction. They always spin in this direction weather they pull or push water. The amount of luck in this is incredible.
I'll wager someone got their ass chewed out when you got back on board.
Suggestion from a salvage/repair diver that I heard: "If you ever do a dive to inspect a hull, even if it just a sailboat with a 2.5hp outboard, you WILL have the ship's keys on you and the engines disabled by lockout before you go overboard. Do NOT trust word of mouth or written signs in these kind of situations."
Someone could have lost their life on that clip. I'm glad you two got out of the way and clear of them.
That is my worst fear whenever I go out in the water
Me too, it's so horrible
+TOXIC GAMES nope, scary as it is, there's worse...!
Then don’t swim near large ships!
Submechanophobia I have it major
It picked up speed so fast! I thought a prop this big would pick up speed more gradually.
You ever hear of the Titanic's sister ship Britannic ? Long story short 23 people sucked into the propeller
+John Tortorella *Britannic
britannic
Seriously? Not the ideal way to go. ugh Speed 2. haha.
Derek Ortiz That movie scared the shit outta me when I was a kid because of that. That's why I have a kayak.
The crazy horse in "The Ring" XD
I wonder how many large fish gets blended everytime these monster boats cross oceans.
Michael Björk probably none they are fast enough to get away and they are smart enough not to go near the giant spinning blades
@@JessJess347 r/wooosh
StarWarsMarvel There’s no joke, so your whoosh is invalid.
@@johnwesleyhuss2327 There is no joke here you idiot. Seems like a genuine question to me, at the least a rhetorical one.
Captain: turn on propeller 1, turn on propeller 2.
First officer: do you hear that?
Captain: hear what?
(Muffled screams below)
Another near death situation caused by someone forgetting to ...think.
they did think. they thought that nothing would happen or go wrong
@@TwiGuy4 😂they didn't thinking that the propeller can turn on at anytime they will never thought😂😂
1:50
Fish: Yo man that was crazy! You good bruh?
Diver: 👌🤿
Mike, Phil *I saw your comments about how you are thankful that you survived and for kid not to do this including your names but I’m not a stalker* I am soooo thankful that you survived that, yes it wasn’t a very good decision, but at least you survived IN ONE PIECE...I hope you have a good day and I hope that no one does this because it is really dangerous!
Oh would you look at that? Someone opened up a big ol can of nope and left it sitting here
We had run aground a couple of weeks prior so we wanted to see the damage. If you look close you'll see the paint scraped off the rudder. I'll post the footage of the damaged bow when I get a chance.
Phil, I was wondering: Did any of you feel any sort of suction at any point? And if so, how severe was it?
@@michaelcaplin8969 7 years ago bro this may not even be his account anymore
@@-_deploy_-doesn't hurt to ask hehehe, have a good day
One word...submechanophobia...
Damn! I'm glad both of you were okay! This is nightmarish.
lol, that is messed up! WOW
The port prop looked like it was backing, so it would have been creating a current pulling you in toward the prop.
this was one of the most shocking things i've ever seen..
then never google goatse, lemon party, or blue waffle.
you must be new to the internet.
Lea Klingen damm u aint seen shit
25EllisDee25
O...M...G... lmao
It reminds me of those mechanics who say " The only way you'll get me under your car, is with the keys in my pocket".
I knew that was gonna happen. Being in the water that close to a large ship is one of my biggest fears. No way
well somebody was lucky the right prop wasn't the first to start expecially in reverse ............😨
Omg i thought im gonna witness a man getting blenderized by a propeller.
U were lucky
There are buoys and markers near the docks at Cozumel now. Our dive briefing was very specific about this, LOL.
This could have ended badly. Aren't divers and ship crew supposed to keep each other informed of such activities?
If I was the one in charge of such maintenance and qualified to dive, I would first lock out the controls, then do my work and unlock said controls when done.
Only people with brains do this
I'd guess they didn't make the ship's crew aware and/or just came in at random. If they were contracted divers, then yes, the crew would be aware.
buddy of mine was diving not far away from a ferry terminal, he didn't realize but he ended up making his way underwater around the breakwater and into the part where the ferry comes in and goes out. Next thing he heard was a loud rumbling getting closer and closer until he looked up and saw the 2 massive screws from the ferry passing over his head.
And that's why you never assume when dealing with dangerous machinery. Good thing no one was hurt, though.
Those propellers looked like control pitched propellers, and they also looked like they were in a neutral position if so when they spin they wont create any kind of thrust to suck in the divers so they were lucky
Not quite as Hollywood-intense as the prop scenes in Indiana Jones 3 or Speed 2:, but that's pretty much enough to never, ever, ever get me into hull cleaning or inspection.
I couldn't even swim near the front of a ship without crapping my pants. I love ships, but having to get up beside one scares the crap out of me.
In Malta, one diver was not so lucky when he was investigating a bow thruster on a cargo ship.
Once again Never Assume, Thank goodness you guys are alright .
1:50 the fish is like, "I see scarier things then that ALL the time, wuss".
That was awsome I wish he would have turned the camera back to see them both turning. A turning prop in the water is the most Fastinating thing
I would have swam away by and get blow back by the wash. I love a propeller in the water. I bet the second guy shit when he finally saw the prop start.
1:20 Everbody Gangsta til the Propeler begins to run
Good thing they didn't put it in full reverse
Bro, if the propellers are on or off the boat I would get the hell away from it anyways
I have a legit phobia of ship propellers. This is my nightmare.
So i'm not the only one which has this as worst nightmare everytime i swim arround or under a ship - big or small..
The reason the propeller is running is beacause they are constant speed / variable pitch propellers and only spin in one direction but the blades change pitch. You can spin them all day at zero pitch and not move.
This man graduated from the Prometheus school of running away from things
I love the way the first diver took off like a rocket and left his pal near the right rudder, talk about a great buddy!!
I mean yeah, but at the same time, what the hell could he really do? He was several meters away.
Was there something in your opinion that the first diver could have done? It's not like he can yell to he's friend and trying to signal with body movements seems kinda fucking retarted anyway since your friend propably can see by your panic filled type of swimming.
yo dude. this is some good footage, glad u uploaded it from 91
The thing is that they are variable pitch propellers so they always turn like this, except that they might change the angle in the wrong direction so they get sucked in.
I am so shit scared watching this! Yet I cannot look away.............
So lucky that the left propeler started first You didnt have any communication with the bridge before you dive?
Dude , when i dive i stay away from any propeller, ships or juste ANY BOAT i love diving, but Boats are my phobia. Not when IM in the boat, but when i'm diving next to a boat i'm reeeeally scared. I'll never do what you've done. Just the start of this video scared me. I was saying in my head: "imagine if that big sharp blade start to turn, imagine if that big thing shred this diver..." when suddently i saw it start. Just this video scared me
i need to know, does the propeller suck you in or push you away
should have known what was happening when that rudder started moving. all ships do that before departing the dock. they check for rudder response and wheel wash.. We didn't do that once before departing darwin, australia and only realized days later we didn't have a port propeller.
how do you not realise you are missing a whole damn propeller. isn't the thrust literally halved
I know a lot about propellers and if you was on the other side you would have been turned into chease pasty
Ok this vid was already scary. And then the propeller started rotating and I shat myself.
how do I find out who owns the copyright for this?
Gotta love that angelfish on the bottom there just chillin like "Welcome to our world, huuuman..."
I can see I am not the only one scared of sumerged ships
Wow you were REALLY lucky, Not trying to be rude, but you should always let the bridge of a boat know if you are diving beneath. Hell that is my worst nightmare lol... great video though, thank you for uploading.
you're lucky as hell not to have been on the other side of that propeller, those blades had to be at least 12-14ft
ill bet that propeller had to have been at least 12-14ft in diameter
the largest propeller ever build is around 30 feet in diameter
@@montiro8999 The biggest propeller ever made had a diameter of about 12 meters. Although still very, very big, a propeller with a diameter of 9 meters like you mention is not that uncommon in the biggest cruise ships.
I'm not sure what the world record 100 yard dash in fins is, but someone should measure this one to see how it compares!
Title didn't disappoint!
Licky that that they didn’t started both at once.
The bravest human on the planet.
The very stuff of my nightmares. I have no idea why, since I've never even been close to a running ship propeller, but I'm scared to death of them. Even seeing one in a dry dock, or even on a ship in a goddamn museum will give me the creeps.
In a Aussie voice "Oh hey look, a giant blender. Let's touch it!"
I love my phobia Damm...
Me too & i over came it one very strange night.......
Just imagine if the caption decided to put power to the propeller the guy was swimming next to
That's pure luck that he didn't
Of course, this is a very dangerous situation, but as long as the CP propeller is set to 0% pitch, as it seems here, there are good chances to get away without being sucked in it.
What is up with divers going so close to props? I would keep a very wide margin for exactly this reason...
"SUBMECHANOPHOBIA FOLKS REPRESENT!"
I remember you showing me this years ago... terrifying!!
In that video the propeller has a role of being a giant meat grinder
The fish that are there are like "lol look at those humans struggling. Screw ya humans. We can f'cking swim without any problems!!"
Amazing how many people stated more or less the same in that video.
Good thing those props went into forward thrust!!!!!! Not sure you would be alive being that close had they gone into reverse. WOW!!!!! NIGHTMARE FOR SURE!!!
. . . . and if the ship had started in reverse for whatever reason?
Captain of the Jade told us how much tension is on those lines while tied to the dock….. why was propulsion turned on WHILE still docked? Those propellers should never be turning while those lines are tied and tensioned.
What I was told when I asked a crew member about this video.
People watching this video with Submechanofobia: 😶
Deep water scares me, but as long as I'm near the bottom of the water and still see the light above me, I'm fine.
those propellers are sharp as hell.
Not at all, just look at some other videos of propeller inspection, but they are powerful enough to roughly slice you into two or more chunks.
As a person with submechanophobia, i died inside a total of 200 times watching this.
They are lucky as hell that ship wasn’t reversing they would have been sucked into those props
I'm going to guess this was before lock out tag out was a thing. Thanks OSHA
No, lock out tag out was in force but these fools had no business being there.
This video literally makes my hands shake.
That dude is still swimming his ass off right now(and he's on land already).....
Lol oh my gosh you made it! Those props, pull a lot of water
Dives, doesn't think to tell the bridge.
Hears the engines start, doesn't react.
Sees the rudder move, doesn't react.
Inexperienced.
This could have been much more graphic
My question is, the air bubbles forming bcs he’s swimming or from the running propeller? Bcs if it is coming from that propeller, I’ll be scared af if that thing would suck me in and I’m chop chopped. The worst thing I think could happen to me when I’m diving. Thank god I don’t even know how to swim. Don’t wanna be near that thing that could probably get me kill. Lol
Dogsboll Ox: If you haven't seen it ck out: ""Rollie's Segment--from Dive Emergency Procedures"" T-5:54, concerning:> a missed communication between divers and ships machinery operations, some shipboard personnel not alert to diver safety regulations or needs, and the serious consequences of a breakdown anywhere in the chain of those involved.
And how brown was the water afterwards?
If it starts and is in forward gear it will push you back out of the way ,if it's in reverse it will draw you in ,
It was in reverse, watch the way their air bubbles are moving.
"Hey dude I'm PADI certified! I'll inspect your boat no prob!" Navy Divers: SMDH
I react the same way when someone turns on a ceiling fan.
what was the brown trailing liquid the diver left on his way out of there.. sorta looked like a giant squid! :D
Old video, but damn. That was pretty silly to do. Very lucky.