I like to imagine a whole whole civilisation shaking in fear as the counter gets closer and closer to finishing. No records left of what it was actually counting, but maintained over the time.
That'll be 0.00000000000128 unified crypto coin adjusted for inflation. That's also 0.000000000000000000000000003 standard crypto credits btw. Art it undeniably is.
An idea why they all start at 6: These counters are fundamentally based on RS flip flops. Theoretically an RS flip flop would start in a random undefined state, but the silicon might be manufactured in such a way that one of the negative feedback paths is slightly shorter and therefore it always latches into the same state after power up. If the binary counter inside the chip is layed out in such a way that it latches to 0110, it will start at the number 6. I have seen similar non-random behavior with SRAM.
@@awaywithwords9650 I'd say likely not (im not an expert) if the manufacturing of the chip really does make it so that "one of the negative feedback paths is slightly shorter" Its safe to say that out of the 1000s of chips they manufacture some of them would have differently sized "negative feedback paths" (biased towards 6 being the shortest negative feedback paths but having some outliers like the 7s that did appear)
Oh yeah about those 6's. It's a well known bug with the 4026B chip where if you power up a certain number of them at the same time you open up a momentary portal to Hades. it's nothing to worry about.
by the time it gets to 1000,000,000,000,000,000,000, we'll have a working time machine & we can send it back into the distant past, maybe far enough so that we can watch it finish.
When you demonstrated the audio out, my little standalone hamburger-style bluetooth speaker (with a grippy base) started to walk across the table as if it was running away. I've never seen it do that before. Fantastic work.
You should add: 1) an ending message 2) some kind of memory protection in case it rans out of power so it can continue from where it was when power comes back 3) plans, circuits and any document needed for replacement parts... it will need a lot of plastic replacement, at least every 1000 years 4) timed control, I think miliseconds... in a millon years no one would be able where counting started
In one million years. "We don't know who built it but this device has come to unite humanity through the eons as successive generations tend to its maintenance. It's now 100 stories tall and counts much faster but it's still based on the original design. Whoever this person was, he or she was a visionary and we honor him or her with great celebrations and festivals. Since, we've solved world hunger, poverty and made contact with countless civilizations throughout the galaxy. Thank you for visiting the Museum of Everything Else and the gift shop is on your way out."
Just use “them”. Most people accept it as a singular pronoun. If you want to be more “grammaticaly correct” you can use the old-ish English word “thon”. And, since this is meant to be a post from the future, language had most likely developed to completely accept “they” as a completely grammaticaly correct singular pronoun.
@@jjb0nks You're right. I should get more used to doing that. It crossed my mind but it didn't seem right in this case. I'll make more of an effort in the future.
This is quite possibly the most important thing we'll witness this year. That's an absolutely amazing artifact. Super cool idea and an awesome culmination of your life's work.
I would highly recommend makeing the thing air tight with a silica packet or two in the bottom of it to help prevent dust and corrosion in all honesty moisture is going to be what kills this thing over time
Literally makeing history. This will 3nd up in a museum one day amd probably outlive humanity. I typed this around 9:80. XD glad he decided to put it in a museum
You made me laugh🙃😜 thank you (my joke extension ==>) 1million ah ah ahhh 1billion ah ah ahh 1trillion ah ah .... the Count has to take a short nap children
I'm learning about circuitry and electrical engineering this year, and now this channel's videos make a little bit more sense. I love learning about engineering.
The cool part about this is that if you can build another counter and connect them, then the counter will be squared. If you build two of them, so that you have three, then it'll be cubed.
But we know the answer to life the universe and everything, it's 42, we just don't know the question, that's why we exist, we are the computer calculating that question.
@@Ireallywouldrathernot Not quite - the ultimate question was discovered to be - "What is 6 x 9".......prompting the remark "I always thought something was fundamentally wrong with the universe" :)
@@Steve-hm8ze But they also talked about how humans would only have a corrupted version of the answer but this is where my detailed memory ends so Im actually not sure which was supposed to be the correct question.
Reminds me of the clock of the Long Now, a mechanical time piece that endeavors to keep time for 10,000 years, and also has a musical element in its unique chimes. Thats a hell of an engineering feat as it has no ship of theseus factor, its set in motion and will run the entire duration, but I have no idea if it will be more successful than this with its ongoing maintenance plan. The race is on!
Me too! Going to visit that clock is on my bucket list. I love it that Sam has thought so carefully about maintenance and backup power with his counter. I believe the Clock of the Long Now requires someone to "wind" it occasionally, and this Googol counter seems to have no equivalent regular needs, but of course the maintenance is a key issue, especially with electronics.
Yes! also: Neal Stephen's "Anathem". An excellent book about one of those clocks. Which also reminds me: let the clock turn off the display, when the power goes low :)
@@lyqide8123 ... that would get, one hundred, thousands views, possibly. Especially since so many people, watch twitch streams, of people doing, what ever. this would be like the counter, one of the Berlin school of technology students built, back in the early, nineteen seventies. It's still going, the thing never shut off. It's powered by a solar panel, the size of an air craft carrier. Look it up, it's intensely mental.
Wow. I'm in love with this. I love how everything is so modular and servicable. I love how there are rows of identical boards, it looks so neat and tidy. Now *this* is how you design a product! I'd rather replace a component twice a year on a product where replacement is an option, than have a product that can't be serviced that lasts for 10 years.
Aaah this brings back memories from my engineering college days.... Frequency dividers and 7 segment displays. But I hate to be a buzz kill, but when a counter burns out you have lost that number! And the further you get in the array the longer it takes to have that reach back the point where it failed. And be sure you have an A+B power feed into your house :) We bought over a company once and they'd their servers all connected with redundant power they said. I look at those racks and I go like... Yeah you basically have redundant powersupplies. But if one breaks and shorts all goes black in here, as you have everything connected to one mains line. No we need to procure an extra B feed from the energy company, because this is "lame redundancy".
lol I've seen that so many times! They spend 10s or 100s of thousands of dollars making the hardware redundant and then putting them all on the same power
Have to admit ... while working with numbers all day long ... throwing around scientific notation for this or that science and math ... I've not really played with the number Googol. You start with your 1kHz clock (I think you said) ... convert to minutes ... to hours ... to days ... to estimated years ... and you're still left with one whopper of a huge number. I appreciate the video and for sparking some thoughts. I also liked your addressing of rigorous robust electronics. Best of fortune here with your goal, and may the number you see on your machine be a big one. Thanks.
I once met somone who was driven insane by numbers. She would not stop saying ergonomics. We all thought she was just a crazy lady. Turned out she used to work for Darpa as an engineer. Ergonomics..... yea. Numbers are interesting.
8:45 hopefully we get faster and faster clocks that'll speed up the process more and more. I kinda wanna make an incrementing game that requires you to count to a googol before you finish, but you can get faster clocks and you have to repair certain sections at times as to keep the clock going. Ultimately the game would probably be unbeatable as googol is a large number, 10^100
How about blowing some components when moving up the count, like an SMD diode or resistor? Basically to use it as a kind of physical memory that can be used to restart the count if it is ever needed. You are awesome and the projects are incredible! Keep up the great work!
This reminds me of a project published in an electronics magazine in the mid-1970's. The first 1-farad capacitor had just been released and they wanted to come up with a project for it. What they came up with was a timer. You pressed the "start" button when your child was born, and on the day that child reached retirement age (65) it would sound a buzzer. Of course, it wasn't a serious project, but it was cool to see the prototype.
People mention how funny it would be to have it be found in the future and the fear of what they think would happen when it finishes counting, much like the Mayan Calendar. The funny part is that if the Mayans made that machine, it wouldn't even be halfway the second row!
Im a vet builder. I wish I payed more attention when my dad was teaching me electronics. You sir are an Electro wizard! I feel you are an engineer from a cyber punk neon future. Mad cool!
You could also carve all the chematics for all elements of the counter into the avrylic itself so it is not only a monolith, but gets that "Rosetta Stone" vibe to it. At some point one day this will be an ancient schematic of ancient technology that nobody is capable of recreating anymore all just carved into the surface of the red monolith. :D
suggestion : you could use each 7 segment display as a 128 counter , this would reduce the number of 7 segment display , it would make the contraption a lot less decipherable wich might add to the eldritch feel of it
@you'll have a stroke reading this , not possible. Because he is using a circuit design where the 7 segment display driving is done for him inside the 4026 device. It contains an integrated 7 segment decoder. He would need a completely different design.
There is a piece of music so long it has been, being played for 100s of years and a note happens every couple of years. On an organ in a church in Germany. It was finally interrupted buy covid I believe. This reminded me of that
@@thomasstone1363 as slow as possible is the one! Either kudos on the good memory or the expert googling. These weird random facts that take the place in my head, where useful information should be stored are hard to Google. But the name brought it back to me. I remember now that I first heard about it in an adam neleely video. Highly recommended channel BTW. Thanks for settling the brain worm tho
This is a fabulous project!!! We need a page, so we can view it at anytime. If you need any help with it just reach out the the electronics community..!! One of my favourite videos.. take care Sam!
I can imagine in the distant future, when this is in an international museum, some trainee maintaining it, goofs up something and then manually setting the count to the last number and not telling anyone :D
Thanks To My Patreons for supporting outlandish projects like this! the next livestream is tomorrow night :- www.patreon.com/posts/look-mum-no-2nd-46964864 Backing song from this vid and samples of the audio from the counter here! :- www.patreon.com/posts/46915256 VIDEO ANSWERING QUESTIONS ON THIS :- ruclips.net/video/OAD3pc7TjcY/видео.html also ill be sharing gerber files and Schematics tomorrow here :- www.lookmumnocomputer.com/projects#/googol-counter picked up my broken sm7b and didnt realise till the end of shooting the vid. what a plonker For the doubters there are some things to bear in mind. The clock was purposeful made to be jnnacurate so it's impossible to predict milestones.. the acrylic enclosure is its first case I have focused on making something cool looking as time goes on I will make it more bombproof as it gets more important to me.
This is a great idea. It reminds me of an old saying, society improves when men plant trees they will never sit in the shade of. You're thinking about more than your lifespan, that's a rare thing these days.
Hello,interesting countdown, how long do you estimate the count got to the tenth top row? (one row equals 1 billion but 10 ... i think it may take years).
Might be worth looking at using a master stable clock circuit, like one from a CDDA DAC external clock anti jitter module, 44. or 96. KHz etc, as 555 chips and op-amps chips have a habit of clipping (stalling with power supply bounce & interferance). Or just use a Fluke (Philips) frequency generator as the master clock. Keep up the crazy good work. Like to go to the museum of all your items.
hey i built in on purpose to not be stable, i like the idea of it being hard to predict, makes it less interesting to me it being stable hence not going for a crystal or what not, and just a crappy 555 :D
Man this brings back old memories... My first counter only went to 9999... Built from an old clothes iron, tape deck, and car stereo, and powered by whatever battery I felt like hooking to it at the time.
I’ll bet people around at the time of the last tick will gather from far and wide just to hear the message recorded by the ancients and be just as thrilled with the result as they were in Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy when they were told the answer to The Question
I like to imagine this monolith ticking away, floating on in space long after Earth's star has been depleted of fuel, being cared for by some alien who turned their food replicator into a synthesizer.
You know what I was here when this started, hope I find this comment back in a few years when he’s explaining his new power supply system and replacing broken chips
So... you build the LMNC Cloak... Technically I can tell you: "Hey, lets meet up at 10010 LMNC" and this time is absolute. No matter who you are and where you live, no translation from imperial, metric or other historical hangover. That makes you a revolutionist. You did what 195 Countries never could do on a political way. Bravo Majestro!
I never thought my depression could become depressed but finding out my life is about the length of the 14th number ticking over twice if I’m lucky, just did that.
Instead of making it go to zero when hitting one google you should make it count down back to zero again! Then make a time-lapse so we can watch it bounce back and forth! ;)
IRON Maiden!!!!!! Man, you have such an energy level, as an old dude I am envious but man, its super cool. This is a super cool idea as well, I hope you make a spare parts bucket to leave for your successor! What an amazing thing to think of where this may end up!
Imagine, in 50 to 100 years from now on, it will be like: "On the 31 of January 2021, while a Global Pandemic is still crashing the Economys of the modern World, history was written, by one single man... and his name is: LOOK MUM NO COMPUTER .
When this finally reaches googol, a Big Bang restarts the universe, creates a Sam thought form made from pre atomic elements of the counter, travels backwards through time and space, enters its creator Look mum no computer, with instructions to build itself.
"the paterons that made that possible" [things turning on makes only sixes] mate i think satan may be one of your patreons, considering this is a project on eternety... that's pretty cool
Negative-bias Temperature Instability will eventually kill all devices built with a CMOS process....including your CD4026s 🥺🥺. Especially devices that are on and static for long time periods. Basically, the gate threshold voltage on the PMOS transistors slowly goes up over time because charge gets "stuck" in the gate dielectric layer. The gate electric field then has to be stronger to create inversion in the channel and turn the device "on". Eventually, the PMOS transistors in those CD4026s will have their gate threshold voltages increased to the point they never turn on and the circuit no longer functions :'( This will likely take a very long time though as these are "big" transistors as this is an old chip. I think the smaller the gate area the more NBTI impacts it (??) Any how, it's an interesting process. The detailed device physics are over my head but look it up if anyone is into semiconductors!! Great video btw :)
Yeah all good! Like I said in the vid it's designed to be adapted and modified as technology moves on so in 100 years the cards might be something completely different :) just gotta make sure it counts ALLL the numbers ha
Just imagining how it would be if it lost power for one second after 30 years or so. Damn, this could seriously f* you up. I mean imagine you are an old man, going back to the museum, outside is a thunderstorm, you are so freakin old you can hardly walk, and then it flashes outside and the counter resets. Bad bad dream. Could you use some MRAM or other nonvolatile circuit to keep the state in case of a power failure?
yeah i agree, you could have one parrallel MRAM chip per module board. Could be as simple as just storing the driven led segments, 1 7-segment in byte 0 in the mram chip. Using an MR256A08B for ex, this is like 3.5€ per chip, pretty much more expensive than the bom of 1 module... but kind of easy tohardwire it in write mode, and just save the status of the LED driver pins to the address 0 and clock both the CD and the ram chip from the clock (with a good enough delay (cd4033 says propagation delay from clock to decode out is 250ns with vdd=10v so that should be measured and solved with a few chained schmidt triggers ) )... IMHO this is the only way to do it in a way that is compatible with the project but it is expensive a bit. Doing it by row (ie serially with address 0 for module 0, address 1 for module 1, etc) would be harder since you would have to scan through the 10 modules on the row and the row's fastest module would only be saved every 10 cycles. While acceptable for the lowest ranks, the "fastest" clock on the higher ranks is one every millenia so... you want to save that... No saved BOM, no cutting corners :p also i think that reliability engineers tend to want to reduce the number of parts as much as possible... this is kind of an interesting intellectual exercice...
No, the way the "clock" timer works is it puts a certain voltage (I think 5 volts in this case) through a wire, then waits for a bit, then puts 0v through the wire, waits for a bit, puts 5v through the wire, waits for a bit...you get the picture. all the chips are doing is waiting for their input to go up to 5v. when it sees that, the chip adds 1 to its counter, and waits for its input to go to 5v again. It does not matter if it takes 1000 years to go to 5v, as long as the chip itself is still working after all that time it will still increment.
I was thinking the same, upon hotswap, especially on the first cells, how to stop the clock and the hotswapped cell when you put in back would have missed it clock overs, mis-synced. So some sort of master clock halt on hotswap a cell or memory is needed. I wouldn't matter to much on latter 2nd 3rd line much. But also if hotwapped cell had say 3 clocks, when you fix and put it back it be on zero, so manual adjust or memory from previous needed. Say instead of serial mode clock on off to next cell, a ten step mode is needed ie serial voltage ramp or pararel mode a/d out d/a in. I think a voltage ramp clock out from a cell would be simpular. Also time taken to complete count would be calculated from the master clock, so whats the fastest stable clock those chips can take ? 1hz or 1Mhz or 100Mhz or even 5Ghz ?
I like to imagine a whole whole civilisation shaking in fear as the counter gets closer and closer to finishing. No records left of what it was actually counting, but maintained over the time.
And they can't agree whether to turn it off or not, so they put it on the Moon to be safe.
And when it eventually finishes it will just go back to 0 and start again
Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy vibes
[Laughs in Mayan]
Well ......that moment has been prepared for
Now you have to end every future video with a little shot of where the googol counter is at.
Unironically throwing my full support behind this idea
Yeah, you're kind of locked in now bud. Gotta have a counter shot in the conclusions now.
Great idea.
But now we’ll know when he recorded the video/created it. The counter wil be used as the new epoch
good idea
Seriously man this is an INCREDIBLE art project. Somebody is going to buy this at Art Basel in 100 years for 200 billion dollars.
That'll be 0.00000000000128 unified crypto coin adjusted for inflation. That's also 0.000000000000000000000000003 standard crypto credits btw. Art it undeniably is.
Yes. GET ROYALTIES.
or 1.5 bitcoin
Actually it sold for 206.4 Billion
@@spldrong yeah i saw it too at my noiralink show hehe
An idea why they all start at 6: These counters are fundamentally based on RS flip flops. Theoretically an RS flip flop would start in a random undefined state, but the silicon might be manufactured in such a way that one of the negative feedback paths is slightly shorter and therefore it always latches into the same state after power up. If the binary counter inside the chip is layed out in such a way that it latches to 0110, it will start at the number 6. I have seen similar non-random behavior with SRAM.
Does the fact that all the other rows weren't all 6's to begin refute your hypothesis?
@@awaywithwords9650 I'd say likely not (im not an expert) if the manufacturing of the chip really does make it so that "one of the negative feedback paths is slightly shorter" Its safe to say that out of the 1000s of chips they manufacture some of them would have differently sized "negative feedback paths" (biased towards 6 being the shortest negative feedback paths but having some outliers like the 7s that did appear)
@@michaelmadden3012 * shrugs * I'm definitely *not* an expert so there's that . . .
When it reaches a googol, it will reset and just display 42.
This is the way
Zaphod? Zat you?
"you can now play as luigi"
I got this reference.
Always bring your towel
Dude, make a 24/7 livestream of it, I'd check in every now and then
I'd catch with it every now & then, on fast forward LOL..
Yes!
I third this motion! Doom clock on twitch is a must!
Yeah it'd a bit like the Pitch Drop Experiment. I missed the drop in 2014...I was very sad. Next drop probably won't be for another 8 years.
I’d love to help with the web dev/design part
Oh yeah about those 6's. It's a well known bug with the 4026B chip where if you power up a certain number of them at the same time you open up a momentary portal to Hades. it's nothing to worry about.
I see this as a total win.
ITS THE MAGIC SMOKE MANNN
we'll have to launch it into space as the sun fades
Haha if this thing lasts longer than a week 😂
I didn't check, but I have a feeling we have to launch it out of space-time, because of the heat death/big crunch of the universe.
@@juschu85 yes the universe started once so it will stop to nothing is forever
@@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER LOL
by the time it gets to 1000,000,000,000,000,000,000, we'll have a working time machine & we can send it back into the distant past, maybe far enough so that we can watch it finish.
Sam: _builds an electronic personification of existential dread_
Also Sam: How awesome is that!
This is the first video I've seen from this creator, but this is great
I love it
I seem to have misplaced my existential dread decades aco.
Seeing on how it's not an abstract concept made into human form but a machine, perhaps you mean manifestation of rather than personification of?
@@SomeSickDingus That's just what machines _want_ you to think.
When you demonstrated the audio out, my little standalone hamburger-style bluetooth speaker (with a grippy base) started to walk across the table as if it was running away. I've never seen it do that before. Fantastic work.
You should add:
1) an ending message
2) some kind of memory protection in case it rans out of power so it can continue from where it was when power comes back
3) plans, circuits and any document needed for replacement parts... it will need a lot of plastic replacement, at least every 1000 years
4) timed control, I think miliseconds... in a millon years no one would be able where counting started
A secret end song for fun would be kind of cool for a message
@@calebhall4620 either that or some very deep long message to somthing, I don't know
@@calebhall4620 Waiting for the world to end seems a good fit for that....
42...
Memory would be cheating, it should count to gooogl without an interruption.
Like the ending message tho
I love that none of us are going to see the third row change.
Ha
neither the Sun
Speak for yourself. I plan on not missing that
@@Danbatio The sun will... 100 million years isn't anything for the sun
@@SylasTheGreat at 10 KHz it will take 300 billion years (300 x10^9) to complete the second row. That is 20 times the age of the Universe.
In one million years. "We don't know who built it but this device has come to unite humanity through the eons as successive generations tend to its maintenance. It's now 100 stories tall and counts much faster but it's still based on the original design. Whoever this person was, he or she was a visionary and we honor him or her with great celebrations and festivals. Since, we've solved world hunger, poverty and made contact with countless civilizations throughout the galaxy. Thank you for visiting the Museum of Everything Else and the gift shop is on your way out."
Just use “them”. Most people accept it as a singular pronoun. If you want to be more “grammaticaly correct” you can use the old-ish English word “thon”. And, since this is meant to be a post from the future, language had most likely developed to completely accept “they” as a completely grammaticaly correct singular pronoun.
@@jjb0nks You're right. I should get more used to doing that. It crossed my mind but it didn't seem right in this case. I'll make more of an effort in the future.
@jj b0nks AI's are smart and therefore don't care about critical theory so it is unlikely.
@@Erbmon what?
Solved world hunger and poverty? Haha. Don't make me laugh.
Life doesn't work like that.
There ain't no rich without the poor.
Power consumption idea:
Have each module's display off until it's counter is greater than zero.
may aswell leave them unplugged till the time comes 🙄
It'd help for a little bit at least, though in the long run, it won't matter.
@@legendgames128 When the long run is few hundred years, it will absolutely matter
@@tomasotto8980 When the long run has 20 or more times the digits, it will absolutely not matter.
That was the first thing I thought of.
Little did he know that by doing this he had finally set an expiry date for the existence of our universe.
This is quite possibly the most important thing we'll witness this year. That's an absolutely amazing artifact. Super cool idea and an awesome culmination of your life's work.
It's kind of sad how none of us here will ever be able to see the counter finish, but I love the idea! Reminds of the "eternal flame" for some reason.
The clock speed is arbitrary though. Time will pass no matter what. It's passing a googol right now.
a kit of 30 of the single cells would be a cool gift
I would highly recommend makeing the thing air tight with a silica packet or two in the bottom of it to help prevent dust and corrosion in all honesty moisture is going to be what kills this thing over time
Literally makeing history. This will 3nd up in a museum one day amd probably outlive humanity.
I typed this around 9:80. XD glad he decided to put it in a museum
The Count from Sesame Street would worship this.
Googol! Ah Ah Ah!
XD XD XD
You made me laugh🙃😜 thank you (my joke extension ==>)
1million ah ah ahhh
1billion ah ah ahh
1trillion ah ah .... the Count has to take a short nap children
We need much more of your kind of craziness in the world, Sam. And much less of the other kinds.
I'm learning about circuitry and electrical engineering this year, and now this channel's videos make a little bit more sense. I love learning about engineering.
The cool part about this is that if you can build another counter and connect them, then the counter will be squared. If you build two of them, so that you have three, then it'll be cubed.
"I've added an audio output" - massive 🎶
3000 years later: did we get the answer to life the universe and everything ??
No, but we got really high on this counter.
But we know the answer to life the universe and everything, it's 42, we just don't know the question, that's why we exist, we are the computer calculating that question.
Naaaah, not so high. 3000 years is not even the end of the second row
@@almostanengineer If you read a bit further you'll find the question is "What is 6 x 7". What we don't know is why.
@@Ireallywouldrathernot Not quite - the ultimate question was discovered to be - "What is 6 x 9".......prompting the remark "I always thought something was fundamentally wrong with the universe" :)
@@Steve-hm8ze But they also talked about how humans would only have a corrupted version of the answer but this is where my detailed memory ends so Im actually not sure which was supposed to be the correct question.
Reminds me of the clock of the Long Now, a mechanical time piece that endeavors to keep time for 10,000 years, and also has a musical element in its unique chimes.
Thats a hell of an engineering feat as it has no ship of theseus factor, its set in motion and will run the entire duration, but I have no idea if it will be more successful than this with its ongoing maintenance plan. The race is on!
And the third contender in those never-ending-song projects is Martin Molin's MMX (Marble Machine X) on his Wintergatan & Wintergatan2 channels.
Me too! Going to visit that clock is on my bucket list. I love it that Sam has thought so carefully about maintenance and backup power with his counter. I believe the Clock of the Long Now requires someone to "wind" it occasionally, and this Googol counter seems to have no equivalent regular needs, but of course the maintenance is a key issue, especially with electronics.
Yes! also: Neal Stephen's "Anathem". An excellent book about one of those clocks.
Which also reminds me: let the clock turn off the display, when the power goes low :)
Came here to post this!
@@macronencer The time-keeping element I believe will function without winding, you need to wind it to be shown the time though, and hear the chimes.
How about a live count somewhere on the internet we can see? Ok maybe a trip to the museum of everything else is in order !
like a twitch channel called googol counter.... why not....
Best idea!
Hoping he will read this comment!
Smells like a job for OCR and python3
@@lyqide8123 ... that would get, one hundred, thousands views, possibly. Especially since so many people, watch twitch streams, of people doing, what ever. this would be like the counter, one of the Berlin school of technology students built, back in the early, nineteen seventies. It's still going, the thing never shut off. It's powered by a solar panel, the size of an air craft carrier. Look it up, it's intensely mental.
There is one.... it called the National debt counter, but that one has a 70 year head start.....
Oh cool, you made a real time counter of Jeff Bezos' income!
Wow. I'm in love with this. I love how everything is so modular and servicable.
I love how there are rows of identical boards, it looks so neat and tidy.
Now *this* is how you design a product!
I'd rather replace a component twice a year on a product where replacement is an option, than have a product that can't be serviced that lasts for 10 years.
Aaah this brings back memories from my engineering college days....
Frequency dividers and 7 segment displays. But I hate to be a buzz kill, but when a counter burns out you have lost that number! And the further you get in the array the longer it takes to have that reach back the point where it failed. And be sure you have an A+B power feed into your house :)
We bought over a company once and they'd their servers all connected with redundant power they said. I look at those racks and I go like... Yeah you basically have redundant powersupplies. But if one breaks and shorts all goes black in here, as you have everything connected to one mains line. No we need to procure an extra B feed from the energy company, because this is "lame redundancy".
lol I've seen that so many times! They spend 10s or 100s of thousands of dollars making the hardware redundant and then putting them all on the same power
Have to admit ... while working with numbers all day long ... throwing around scientific notation for this or that science and math ... I've not really played with the number Googol. You start with your 1kHz clock (I think you said) ... convert to minutes ... to hours ... to days ... to estimated years ... and you're still left with one whopper of a huge number. I appreciate the video and for sparking some thoughts. I also liked your addressing of rigorous robust electronics. Best of fortune here with your goal, and may the number you see on your machine be a big one. Thanks.
I once met somone who was driven insane by numbers. She would not stop saying ergonomics. We all thought she was just a crazy lady. Turned out she used to work for Darpa as an engineer.
Ergonomics..... yea.
Numbers are interesting.
At this rate, he is making a computer... LOOK MUM, MY COMPUTER
hahaha
74 series logic. Not far from it.
Add a few flip flops and you have a computer
It is computing
current = current + 1
So technicially it is a computer, but it just conpute current + 1
his mom didn't want that he used a computer
so he built his own
You deserve a million subs dude, yet another awesome project!!
8:45 hopefully we get faster and faster clocks that'll speed up the process more and more. I kinda wanna make an incrementing game that requires you to count to a googol before you finish, but you can get faster clocks and you have to repair certain sections at times as to keep the clock going. Ultimately the game would probably be unbeatable as googol is a large number, 10^100
How about blowing some components when moving up the count, like an SMD diode or resistor? Basically to use it as a kind of physical memory that can be used to restart the count if it is ever needed. You are awesome and the projects are incredible! Keep up the great work!
Smart! Like Fuse-bits that were used in PAL architecture.
This thing is gonna end up in a museum being treasured and maintained by the science community for years to come
You mean centuries to come. ;)
100% - this should be in a museum - amazing idea and execution and I love the idea there should also be a sister project counting down from a google.
Exactly like the pitch drop experiment :D
He needs to check out "The clock of the long now". Meant to run for 10,000 years !
Indeed!
This reminds me of a project published in an electronics magazine in the mid-1970's. The first 1-farad capacitor had just been released and they wanted to come up with a project for it. What they came up with was a timer. You pressed the "start" button when your child was born, and on the day that child reached retirement age (65) it would sound a buzzer. Of course, it wasn't a serious project, but it was cool to see the prototype.
People mention how funny it would be to have it be found in the future and the fear of what they think would happen when it finishes counting, much like the Mayan Calendar.
The funny part is that if the Mayans made that machine, it wouldn't even be halfway the second row!
10,000 years later...LOOK, A MUMMY COMPUTER ; )
I love the quality mic with gain adjusted to reinstate distortion otherwise absent on less organic channels... brilliant!
echo cancelation, of course digitaly
@@jirioto6089 no echo cancellation i just picked up a broken sm7b out of the pile didnt realise till after shooting the video
@@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER interesting experience then
Amazing
wheyy!! i built this to count the amount of synths you have and its growing at an ever increasing rate hahah :D
Haha! yeah
Nice to see you here!
Reminds me of the infinite gear box....where the last gear is cast into cement and will never turn before the end of the universe.....awesome work!
There needs to be a 24/7 live stream of this like the pitch drop, or the centennial lightbulb
Im a vet builder. I wish I payed more attention when my dad was teaching me electronics. You sir are an Electro wizard! I feel you are an engineer from a cyber punk neon future. Mad cool!
You could also carve all the chematics for all elements of the counter into the avrylic itself so it is not only a monolith, but gets that "Rosetta Stone" vibe to it. At some point one day this will be an ancient schematic of ancient technology that nobody is capable of recreating anymore all just carved into the surface of the red monolith. :D
Now that is a real time capsule! That's amazing this needs to hit MSM and it needs to be protected to make sure it keeps counting
suggestion : you could use each 7 segment display as a 128 counter , this would reduce the number of 7 segment display , it would make the contraption a lot less decipherable wich might add to the eldritch feel of it
@you'll have a stroke reading this , not possible. Because he is using a circuit design where the 7 segment display driving is done for him inside the 4026 device. It contains an integrated 7 segment decoder. He would need a completely different design.
There is a piece of music so long it has been, being played for 100s of years and a note happens every couple of years. On an organ in a church in Germany. It was finally interrupted buy covid I believe. This reminded me of that
could be either of these you're thinking of -
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longplayer
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Slow_as_Possible
@@thomasstone1363 as slow as possible is the one! Either kudos on the good memory or the expert googling. These weird random facts that take the place in my head, where useful information should be stored are hard to Google. But the name brought it back to me. I remember now that I first heard about it in an adam neleely video. Highly recommended channel BTW. Thanks for settling the brain worm tho
This is a fabulous project!!! We need a page, so we can view it at anytime. If you need any help with it just reach out the the electronics community..!! One of my favourite videos.. take care Sam!
You just saved reality from collapsing in upon itself until the counter goes off! Thank You🙏🏻🙏🏻 Your saving of humanity will be mythologizied
came for the furby organ, stayed for the world rocking beginning of the count that will echo through generations
I can imagine in the distant future, when this is in an international museum, some trainee maintaining it, goofs up something and then manually setting the count to the last number and not telling anyone :D
Thanks To My Patreons for supporting outlandish projects like this! the next livestream is tomorrow night :- www.patreon.com/posts/look-mum-no-2nd-46964864
Backing song from this vid and samples of the audio from the counter here! :- www.patreon.com/posts/46915256
VIDEO ANSWERING QUESTIONS ON THIS :-
ruclips.net/video/OAD3pc7TjcY/видео.html
also ill be sharing gerber files and Schematics tomorrow here :- www.lookmumnocomputer.com/projects#/googol-counter
picked up my broken sm7b and didnt realise till the end of shooting the vid. what a plonker
For the doubters there are some things to bear in mind. The clock was purposeful made to be jnnacurate so it's impossible to predict milestones.. the acrylic enclosure is its first case I have focused on making something cool looking as time goes on I will make it more bombproof as it gets more important to me.
nah, you're doomed the devil is after ya and your chip friends gave you intel :D
This is a great idea. It reminds me of an old saying, society improves when men plant trees they will never sit in the shade of. You're thinking about more than your lifespan, that's a rare thing these days.
@@skywatchernorth yep reminds me on that as well. This is kind of a digital tree :D
Hello,interesting countdown, how long do you estimate the count got to the tenth top row? (one row equals 1 billion but 10 ... i think it may take years).
@@leo197777 the first row a few weeks, the second row a few billion years. and so on
The moment you realize you wont live to see even a little bit of the 2nd row completed lol
Might be worth looking at using a master stable clock circuit, like one from a CDDA DAC external clock anti jitter module, 44. or 96. KHz etc, as 555 chips and op-amps chips have a habit of clipping (stalling with power supply bounce & interferance). Or just use a Fluke (Philips) frequency generator as the master clock.
Keep up the crazy good work. Like to go to the museum of all your items.
There are also atom clock on chip I think... Not sure how much those cost though
hey i built in on purpose to not be stable, i like the idea of it being hard to predict, makes it less interesting to me it being stable hence not going for a crystal or what not, and just a crappy 555 :D
Man this brings back old memories... My first counter only went to 9999... Built from an old clothes iron, tape deck, and car stereo, and powered by whatever battery I felt like hooking to it at the time.
The audio output made my cat freak out 😹
When it finally finishes counting, i'd love it if it played portals "still alive".
And then started counting all over again.
It's got a fart sample loaded
I’ll bet people around at the time of the last tick will gather from far and wide just to hear the message recorded by the ancients and be just as thrilled with the result as they were in Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy when they were told the answer to The Question
I like to imagine this monolith ticking away, floating on in space long after Earth's star has been depleted of fuel, being cared for by some alien who turned their food replicator into a synthesizer.
You know what I was here when this started, hope I find this comment back in a few years when he’s explaining his new power supply system and replacing broken chips
I seriously don’t understand 98% what you’re saying...but I’m on the edge of my seat.
I like how you sometimes repeat what you just said a minute ago you just repeat what you just said, i really like that.
The Long Now project is well worth checking out, too. Awesome thinking in the extra- long term!
That project looks awesome. Hopefully I'll get to see it finished someday.
are you going to put it on a permanent live stream so everyone can watch
I have a feeling this will literally be legendary...
So... you build the LMNC Cloak... Technically I can tell you:
"Hey, lets meet up at 10010 LMNC" and this time is absolute. No matter who you are and where you live, no translation from imperial, metric or other historical hangover.
That makes you a revolutionist. You did what 195 Countries never could do on a political way. Bravo Majestro!
You are a pure genius with plenty of time to do these remarkable feats of engineering very professional.
I never thought my depression could become depressed but finding out my life is about the length of the 14th number ticking over twice if I’m lucky, just did that.
Might have been better to run it in base 8.
Instead of making it go to zero when hitting one google you should make it count down back to zero again! Then make a time-lapse so we can watch it bounce back and forth! ;)
Imagine a calander being made in the future around this machine.
A.S after Sam
welcome to unix time
Pretty sure that's what the Mayans were attempting
You are MAD , that's a compliment
IRON Maiden!!!!!! Man, you have such an energy level, as an old dude I am envious but man, its super cool. This is a super cool idea as well, I hope you make a spare parts bucket to leave for your successor! What an amazing thing to think of where this may end up!
here a week after launch,will be back when I'm a grandpa.
Imagine, in 50 to 100 years from now on, it will be like: "On the 31 of January 2021, while a Global Pandemic is still crashing the Economys of the modern World, history was written, by one single man... and his name is: LOOK MUM NO COMPUTER .
Was anyone else super scared that it would fall over in the last shot?
When this finally reaches googol, a Big Bang restarts the universe, creates a Sam thought form made from pre atomic elements of the counter, travels backwards through time and space, enters its creator Look mum no computer, with instructions to build itself.
"or in a vacuum"
Sir, you just brightened something up on me.
Very nice idea, would be interesting to see a similar counter in binary
"the paterons that made that possible"
[things turning on makes only sixes]
mate i think satan may be one of your patreons, considering this is a project on eternety... that's pretty cool
Negative-bias Temperature Instability will eventually kill all devices built with a CMOS process....including your CD4026s 🥺🥺. Especially devices that are on and static for long time periods. Basically, the gate threshold voltage on the PMOS transistors slowly goes up over time because charge gets "stuck" in the gate dielectric layer.
The gate electric field then has to be stronger to create inversion in the channel and turn the device "on".
Eventually, the PMOS transistors in those CD4026s will have their gate threshold voltages increased to the point they never turn on and the circuit no longer functions :'(
This will likely take a very long time though as these are "big" transistors as this is an old chip. I think the smaller the gate area the more NBTI impacts it (??)
Any how, it's an interesting process. The detailed device physics are over my head but look it up if anyone is into semiconductors!!
Great video btw :)
Yeah all good! Like I said in the vid it's designed to be adapted and modified as technology moves on so in 100 years the cards might be something completely different :) just gotta make sure it counts ALLL the numbers ha
"It really makes you feel relatively small. HOW AWESOME IS THAT! :D"
That's existentialism!
This is really cool to see. Looking forward to seeing this on Blue Peter in 50 years.
Sees that APC unit: oh dear, we know what's gonna fail first. Good thing it has another power input!
Excellent Build, Kudos. 8:37 "approx. 1000 cycles per second"(?)... Now I thought you would do 1cycle/sec(but heck, NOW fruitflies can enjoy it too{
"It doesn't use a computer..."
But IT IS A COMPUTER!
this needs it's own 24/7 live stream
needs to go into a EMP proof case.
Just imagining how it would be if it lost power for one second after 30 years or so. Damn, this could seriously f* you up.
I mean imagine you are an old man, going back to the museum, outside is a thunderstorm, you are so freakin old you can hardly walk, and then it flashes outside and the counter resets. Bad bad dream. Could you use some MRAM or other nonvolatile circuit to keep the state in case of a power failure?
yeah i agree, you could have one parrallel MRAM chip per module board. Could be as simple as just storing the driven led segments, 1 7-segment in byte 0 in the mram chip. Using an MR256A08B for ex, this is like 3.5€ per chip, pretty much more expensive than the bom of 1 module... but kind of easy tohardwire it in write mode, and just save the status of the LED driver pins to the address 0 and clock both the CD and the ram chip from the clock (with a good enough delay (cd4033 says propagation delay from clock to decode out is 250ns with vdd=10v so that should be measured and solved with a few chained schmidt triggers ) )... IMHO this is the only way to do it in a way that is compatible with the project but it is expensive a bit. Doing it by row (ie serially with address 0 for module 0, address 1 for module 1, etc) would be harder since you would have to scan through the 10 modules on the row and the row's fastest module would only be saved every 10 cycles. While acceptable for the lowest ranks, the "fastest" clock on the higher ranks is one every millenia so... you want to save that... No saved BOM, no cutting corners :p also i think that reliability engineers tend to want to reduce the number of parts as much as possible... this is kind of an interesting intellectual exercice...
Or a UPS?
@@ciarfah 8:15 that *is* a UPS
@@ciarfah UPS can fail
Let’s start a cult around this mashine
Church of the Counting Clock reporting in
Him making this is kind of revolutionary
I’m getting a lot of Colin Furze Vibes from the voiceover
Sony: "We are deeply sorry, but we dont have enough Chips for the PS5"
Sam: "Lets build a machine that can count to Googol!"
Hahaha
Could there potentially be a point where the chip doesn’t recognize any clock at all since the clock is so slow?
No, the way the "clock" timer works is it puts a certain voltage (I think 5 volts in this case) through a wire, then waits for a bit, then puts 0v through the wire, waits for a bit, puts 5v through the wire, waits for a bit...you get the picture. all the chips are doing is waiting for their input to go up to 5v. when it sees that, the chip adds 1 to its counter, and waits for its input to go to 5v again. It does not matter if it takes 1000 years to go to 5v, as long as the chip itself is still working after all that time it will still increment.
@@andrewrominger2537 Interesting, thanks for the info!
If your time keeping chip burns out, you'll lose some data unless you add memory.
each digit has its own memory
I was thinking the same, upon hotswap, especially on the first cells, how to stop the clock and the hotswapped cell when you put in back would have missed it clock overs, mis-synced. So some sort of master clock halt on hotswap a cell or memory is needed. I wouldn't matter to much on latter 2nd 3rd line much. But also if hotwapped cell had say 3 clocks, when you fix and put it back it be on zero, so manual adjust or memory from previous needed.
Say instead of serial mode clock on off to next cell, a ten step mode is needed ie serial voltage ramp or pararel mode a/d out d/a in. I think a voltage ramp clock out from a cell would be simpular.
Also time taken to complete count would be calculated from the master clock, so whats the fastest stable clock those chips can take ? 1hz or 1Mhz or 100Mhz or even 5Ghz ?
10:45 - "It's holding on by a Fred" Don't let go, Fred!
Huh?
The livestream of the googol counter is offline. Dataplicity says port 80 is closed
The counter is actually timeless. There is no way to tell when the counting has started.
... you could calculate it back!
All those chips would be better with a bit of crispy cod