Real Photos From Lusitania's Sinking | These Pictures Survived the Disaster
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- Опубликовано: 29 май 2024
- On May 7th, 1915 the Cunard luxury liner Lusitania was torpedoed and sunk off the coast of Ireland. 20 year old wireless operator David McCormick stopped to take some photos of the scene and his photos were long thought lost - except that the damaged film was published in an issue of the 'Daily Sketch' magazine at the time. Liam Sharpe, researcher and 3D modeler, has recently reviewed the film in close detail and thinks there may be more to this 110-year old ruined media than meets the eye.
Oceanliner Designs explores the design, construction, engineering and operation of history’s greatest vessels- from Titanic to Queen Mary and from the Empress of Ireland to the Lusitania. Join maritime researcher and illustrator Michael Brady as he tells the stories behind some of history's most famous ocean liners and machines! 
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I didn’t even know that there were pictures taken of Lusitania’s sinking! Another brilliant video as usual Mike!
Why did the duck cross the road?
The chicken was on vacation
I genuinely checked it out thinking it would be Mike sardonically taking apart another one of those ‘Newly recovered film footage of the disaster!’ Clickbait videos.
Same I was completely shocked
"Everyone" can be translated differently to some people.
@@gamerxt333 all of the ones.
What is frustrating is that there are only these low quality prints of the film. I am certain that if one could scan that same film today, we could make out a lot more.
Exactly. This is like 72 DPI print. A standard photograph would be over 4 times that. It's almost like a joke. "Hey, can you make out what's in the film? Small issue, though, we only have my 2 year old daughter's drawing of it".
My Lithuanian grandmother and great grandmother arrived at Ellis Island in the spring of 1912 aboard the Lusitania. So I'm always thrilled to hear any coverage of that ship. Thank you, Oceanliner Designs!
Same time as Titanic. Wow. Cool story.
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@@Ansset0 Sorry you haven't accomplished much in life but only you can change that.
@@Ansset0”im different because i dont like cool stories” what a dick😂😂
“what a snap this will make” bro is an icon for saying that
*ship is LITERALLY sinking beneath his feet*
"What a snap this will make"
Ladies and gentlemen, what we have here is history's first Instagrammer...
McCormick had great presence of mind to even take pictures during the sinking and not give in to the panic such an event induces. Haunting images that are visible thanks to your recreation and viewing at a distance without the interference of newsprint-a shame the original negative is lost, apparently.
It's kinda human nature. Now that everybody has cameras on their phones how often do we get hundreds of people photographing disasters and tragedies around the world as if they're casually observing as an outsider? This was just before everyone and their dog had one.
Photos of disasters are very important to take.
Consider Robert Landsburg. When Mount Saint Helens erupted in 1980 he knew he had no chance of escape. He took pictures for as long as he could, and threw himself on top of the camera and/or film when the pyroclastic flow came for him. He provided priceless data for geologists and historians.
While at present we seem to be headed into a digital dark age where little is recorded in media that lasts, it might not be so. Can you imagine how valuable it would be to have a collection of selfies or Tiktok videos preserved in the future? If Mr McCormick's photos survived intact they would have been some of the most famous pictures from the early 20th century.
A lot of older people are annoyed at kids these days for their selfies and such, but not I. I always have my phone ready too, because I wish I had more pictures from when I was younger. I thought polaroids were a marvel, and now we don't even have to wait a few minutes or buy photo paper! Take more photos I say, but be careful which you share online.
Good advice.
i LOOOVE coming to this channel to learn more about these ocean liners
I know! You don’t get this anywhere else 🥰
The funnels creating suction and drawing people in has always given me chills.
I think one lady (Mrs Goyer??) was belched back out with the rush of soot roaring upwards. Truly a miracle
Mrs Margaret Gwyer was sucked into one of the funnels along with Herber Taylor and William Pierpont, and all three were blasted out of it. Gwyer kept her corset cover/camisole as a relic, and it's actually in London's Imperial War Museum.
Her husband also survived, and when they reunited he didn’t recognize her because she was covered from head to toe in soot.
@@nathanviebranz9111 yes I remember reading that part also.
@@erikkosick3898 Gwyer that’s it! I remember reading about the camisole.
My theory is this is what happened to the Titanic's senior officers who were never recovered- down into the first funnel hole
Fascinating! As a hobbyist film photographer and maritime history nerd, it's always awesome to see these two worlds collide!
Absolutely fascinating. I wonder, does the original damaged film strip still exist in an archive somewhere…? It’d be interesting to see if today’s technology could help restore it at all!
Even the pre-sinking images; I've never seen them before. They must surely exist in a known location without the newspaper dot patterns?
Definitely frustrating to consider that much of the film may be partially salvageable today, but all we have to go on is a copy of a newsprint photograph.
Mike what always strikes me is your respect, both to the subject and your audience. Absolutely superb video as always.
I've always wondered about this. In Diana Preston's book, "Lusitania, An Epic Tragedy" she writes of two known accounts of photos being taken during the sinking. I always thought the photos were lost and never recovered. I had no idea about this damaged filmstrip. Well done!
Does the film still survive today in a museum? Would be cool to see HI res photos of the that isn't from an old newpaper print.
And to get some multi spectrum analysis on it to extract every bit of detail available
Thanks for another amazing video. I think this is actually the first time I've heard of McCormick's pictures. I'm guessing the original film no longer exists? It's a shame because we might be able to get more from the film itself, especially with modern computer technology.
Mike, I can’t get over how you can make the subject of ocean liners so interesting and entertaining! Your enthusiasm and professionalism are amazing! Also, love the 3-D animations!
If only someone on Titanic in first class had one of these on a lifeboat. Not sure if the nighttime exposure would have shown much though
Maybe on deck with the lighting, but during the final moments, not likely
There was a second man who was seen taking photos at about the same time as telegraph operator David McCormick. His name was Patrick L. Jones is name and he worked for the International News Service. He was seen taking pictures with two separate cameras. He did not survive and though his body was recovered no mention was made of a camera being found on him, so they ended up on the bottom of the Irish Sea.
About the video of the Lusitania leaving on it's last voyage: Because of German spies; who were operating on the docks in New York harbor, as well as potential saboteurs, a person or several people with a movie camera could not simply go and film the Lusitania on any of her previous voyages during the war. This was Cunard property and any camera men had to be met outside of Cunard property and escorted through security check points to get to the filming location next to the ship. The morning May 1, 1915; when Lusitania sailed from New York, those camera men were met and escorted by the head of Cunard's New York office. It seems highly unlikely to me that this would have been a regular occurrence.
Also, Captain Turner is identified on the Starboard wing of the bridge as she pulls out. Though Turner was the master of the Lusitania from 1908 into 1912, the final voyage of the Lusitania was Turner's first voyage on the Luci as her captain during the war. The previous captain of Lusitania; Daniel Dow, was much more heavyset than Turner and had a bushy mustache.
There are also some printing aspects to take into consideration here. Back in the day the newpapers usually preferred "thin negatives" (underexposed film) to make cliches from. The process also affected the sharpness when they got into print. Your decoding of the film is amazing, but I think the originals told us slightly more. Besides, an old method of saving a camera that had been exposed to saltwater was to put it in a bucket of fresh water.
Yes, I don't know what the chemistry of film in saltwater is, but theoretically film shouldn't really have a problem with getting wet, should it? But in any case, I guess the upshot is basically, if you've got pictures on film and you're going in the drink, the final thing you should do is advance the film all the way to the end!
@@krugerdave The problem with this film, which is evident in the photo of it, is that the emulsion would have stuck to the backing paper once it got wet. The dark areas of the film are where the emulsion was pulled off the celluoid when the film was unwound.
What’s with all my fav creators releasing new content at the exact same time? Thank you all. And get well soon, Mike. Covid sucks. It seems to have made a comeback. Have a good week ahead, O.L.D family!
Who are your favs?
@@86BBUB ooh, hard question! This one, Mentour Pilot, Kelsey of 74 Gear, and a true crime channel That Chapter drops his latest on Patreon on Sundays (also called Mike, that sometimes confuses things haha) how about you?
Unfortunately, it has.
@@laratheplanespotter those are all my favorites as well, so Sundays are a gift!
Thaaanks - too many to list but most likely same as you - cars - planes - boats- photography - wasting my life on youtube - lol !
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An interesting follow-up would be on tracking down the original roll of film... did McCormick give it to that newspaper? Did he keep it? Does it still exist? Who did it end up with? Scanning that role of negatives with ultra-high-res cameras and then playing around in Photoshop would definitely reveal a hell of a lot more.
I honestly never knew that the sinking of Lusitania was captured on film. Good thing that you made a video about it.
There was also a photo taken of Britannic sinking, but it was sadly destroyed during World War II.
Flat out incredible, even damaged as they were these photos are hypnotic. Must have taken seriously cool (as remarked) temperament.
Thank you, again, Mike.
this was absolutely fascinating! I always wondered about how many passengers on board would have had those small cameras and how many pictures were lost. and if any survivors in the lifeboats may have had them too. Not just for the Lusitania but also the Titanic. cameras lost. film destroyed and significant recordings of history banished to the sea. but what if other images did exist. hidden away in family albums. hidden in attics. hidden away lost to memory. etc.
I doubt any photos were taken of Titanics sinking, it was just too dark. Maybe there are some unknown cameras that survived the voyage and made it into the lifeboat, but we have already lucked out once with Father Browne's photos.
I can tell you right away that there would not have been any photos of Titanic's sinking, at least not any that aren't pitch black.
Photographic films of that time were quite insensitive, 50 to 100 ISO, many even less than that. These are best suited for strong sunlight. They were also mostly sensitive to only blue light, so the reddish lights on ships of the time wouldn't have even showed up on short exposures.
Brownie style cameras also usually had no exposure controls, IIRC only a simple aperture control that sets it to f/22 (for very strong sunlight). There were advanced foldable cameras with controls for everything, but you would still need to hold it perfectly still for a few minutes.
In order to take a proper night photograph back then you would have needed a sheet (or plate) camera with a tripod, you had to keep it perfectly still while you hold the shutter open for a while (upwards od ten minutes even). If something moved in the frame during that time, that area would be a blur.
@@masterkamen371 but lets not forget pics of the interiors during the time of the sinking. people sitting around in lifejackets in the GYM or lounges. many didn't think the ship was in any trouble. music was playing. etc. pics may have been taken during this time before the real panics start to set in. and images may have been taken immediately outside of the ship by the entrances to the staircases. there would not have been red or dim/ lighting or pitch black or people would not see where they were walking. anything is possible and cameras were in vogue then. so chances are that image MAY HAVE been taken in 1st or 2nd class during this time. we may never know.
I remember 40 years ago a film was discovered that shows Just for few seconds the first member crew from the Titanic enlinghting the boat deck and a few men running to the boats and open it.
The film was taken thanks to the bulb's lights on an exit/entrance to boat promenade deck.
I don't if that was true material but i was very convincing for me as a photographer.
Hundreds of cantera were lost on that tragedy. Just imagine if we haved all these pinturas lost how it will chance all with all that information.
We know that the 99.5% of pictorical material showned as Titanic, infact was Olympic material.
There's no images from the departure in Southampton. All those are from Olympic. And mysteriously.....there's no more photografic material from Olympic after the "Titanic" Disaster...... that's very STRANGE from a BOAT NAMED "OLD RELIABLE" WITHOUT PICTIRES FROM THE 20'S OR 30'S
VERY VERY VERY STRANGE
There were no Titanic sinking photos - though they did find a drawing of Kate Winslet's boobs.
It's a shame photography wasn't invented sooner. It may have been possible to create primitive photographs with renaissance era technology if only someone knew how. Imagine all the people and historical events that could have been photographed.
Always had a interest in these great vessels, but after watching your channel has grown in respect and fascination for them, their crews and designers. Well done Mike!
It's amazing how technology has advanced so much that now we can finally see some of the last images thought lost due to sea damage from Mccormick's camera. Amazing truly amazing
No new technology was actually used on the images themselves. They are only seen as printed in a newspaper from the time of the event. If the original film was available, better images could be achieved today but it's probably lost.
Sort of interesting how some people misunderstand things because they never listen to a video properly, either intentionally or not. Although I guess equally irrelevant.....usually.
That's a pretty amazing discovery.
It's a pity that the source material is not the original film so resolution is automatically lost, but even so, that's pretty neat work to pull out of it what you did. Wow!
Watching this, I wondered the same thing. Simply having the damaged film instead of the screened newspaper image would have been much better.
That is truly wonderful! A fantastic video as always, Mike!
Amazing what can be found on a 2nd glance!!! Truly amazing that this can be seen after all this time, and thank you for bringing back to light!!! Great video...AGAIN!
7:00 It’s virtually impossible to launch lifeboats from the opposite side of a listing ship.
This is why the Titanic’s pump/ballast operators worked to their deaths. If it wasn’t for them, Titanic would have listed and the death toll would have been much higher.
Lusitania didn’t have this option because, it listed so quickly after the explosion.
Is there still no solution to the listing lifeboat problem? I remember the Costa Concordia having this very issue.
I dont think so. I have read somewhere that ships now have life boats for more than half the passengers per side , and rescue islands or floats dont care for the list, they just get thrown in.
I think he has a video about this exactly, and modern ships are supposed to pump water to balance out the ship to prevent listing. I think Costa Concordia was just a clusterfuck of negligence so no procedures were followed
Does the original film still survive? It was obviously still around for that newspaper article.. I thought you were going to tell us it had been rediscovered and examined with modern technology. It's hard to see anything as all you really see are the dots from the newspaper printing.. thanks anyway. Your videos are very interesting and I appreciate the work you put into each of them.
That fade into the real photo at 11:13 made me audibly gasp. VERY well done Mike!
Amazing video Mike! Thank you so much for sharing, it's so fascinating! I could watch these for hours.
Absolutely amazing work you’ve done! Love your videos and keep up the great work!
Im here to stop anyone from saying first, btw, i feel like David McCormick is a very forgotten character of the lusitania sinking, and should get more recognition, especially because he made the only records of the lusitania sinking
I watched one of your videos from 2 years ago recently, and the difference in that time is astonishing. You truly are becoming a master of the craft, and I am enjoying the ride!
What a harrowing experience that must have been. Thanks for sharing Mike.
Mike back with another absolute banger. Keep up the good work brother, your passion is tangible.
I've grown to love this channel. Thanks for sharing mike
What an amazing video as always I’ve had an obsession with the Lusi and Maure for a while now so I was glad to see this weeks video about one of them keep up the fantastic work Mr. Brady
Despite the fact that I could not make out much in those pictures you still manage to make great content.
Another fabulous & visually beautiful video, congrats to the team
This was awesome!!! As a history geek and analogphotography lover, I loved it. I have Kodak Browne Model F, and I have so much fun taking photos with it.
Love your channel Mike . Very well done . So proud of you .
Thanks. I'm proud of you too, user-ET
Great content and research, always look forward to your postings.
Another fantastic video, thank you.
Looking at the photos from far off, it’s easier to make out what you described. The middle one and right one you can especially make out. So fascinating, and unbelievable that these are not mentioned more by historians. I’m sure somebody would be able to clean them up to some extent and try to extract the scenes they captured the best they could.
There isn't any way to really clean the film up. If the original strip of film still exists, then maybe, but the image from the newspaper is about as good as you could get. The only thing you could do with it is what was done in the video, and that is try to guess where the picture was taken and then overlay with a 3D model, or illustrate over the existing image. The fact that the guy remembered where he took pictures is really the only thing that made this video possible, otherwise it would be nearly impossible to figure out what you are looking at in the film.
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Oh I didn’t realize that the original film didn’t exist anymore. Is this newspaper the only thing that exists of it then?
@@connorpusey5912 I don't know if it still exists. I'm just presuming that it doesn't.
If someone had a good scan of the original newspaper, the half-tone dots of the reproduction process could be filtered out with Fourier transforms, which would make it a little clearer, but you would still have issues with the color depth and information lost in the original transfer
Very cool! Didn't think i'd ever really find just old ocean liners interesting, but you make this really entertaining!
Thank you. Appreciate the Knowledge.
Love your videos mate, keep up the good work.
Well done as usual, Mike !
Whoa, this is seriously freaky and I LOVE IT. Just imagine for a moment if Titanic (which had sunk 3-4 years earlier) had pictures akin to this!
Lusitania, I'd argue, had a story just as tragic as Titanic
Fantastic video as always!
Thank you once again for an important video.
I never knew about this! Thank you for bringing this up.
I had no idea about this. Thanks. You guys do great work.
I have housework and food prep for the week to get to but now that this video is available, my evening plans are set. I want to watch it without distractions. Thanks, Mike!
That really is amazing thanks again for your amazing uploads :) ❤
Thanks so much legend :)
I love your videos! A lot of speculative leaps here, however. Keep up your OUTSTANDING work!
🇺🇸😱LUSITANIA‼️Great Scott! The torpedo is about to hit us!!!🚢💥🌊
This was a shocking experience to know that RMS LUSITANIA was being photographed during her sinking, I would’ve thought the photos were greatly preserved but not 90% damaged. It’s quite hard to figure out the details on that damaged photo with just a little bit of hints, by examining the figures and objects that existed on the damaged photo!
Mike Brady, Thank you so very much for sharing us LUSITANIA once again with more information and remember Mike someday in the year 2025 I planned on creating a Beauty and the Beast influential story on board LUSITANIA with excitement, fantasy and drama, but also the British film A NIGHT TO REMEMBER (1958) will be incorporated into my story as well. Thanks again mate!
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How much time did it took to write this?
❤ great video and also extremely informative
This channel is so good I’m into the video a few seconds and already know I’m going to love it, Mike and the team are amazing
I want wrong it was another quality video
The production quality of this video blew me away. Good lord this was stunning
Thanks for another banger, hope everything is right with you Mike ;)
That's really interesting, and breathtaking when you closely look at it.
Wow! This is my new favorite channel
SAAAWWEEEET!!!!!! Another well done video from Mike!
You make such great and interesting videos I really enjoy watching them
I so look forward to you Sunday morning videos Mike. Another great presentation! 👍❤️😎
Edit: I love my Oceanliner Designs T-shirt
What a great video! Chapeau!
Incredible indeed. Good eye for details...
Amazing. Always amazing!
This video is terrifying but amazing thank you for the video mike I didn't know about the photos!
Wow... wonderful research guys... The Lusitania haunts me to this day, and Im not sure why.... Your animations of all three disasters are just so well done and captivating. Heartbreaking and real, they make you feel like you were there.. The Lusitania and Empress of Ireland, make Titanic look like slow motion... 💔
Thanks so much! Our animator Jack is extremely talented and our 3D modellers put a lot of work into making the ships as realistic as possible. Really appreciate the feedback!
The 3D model by Felis Leopard and animation by Jack Gibson work is put to great use here with Mike's well written narration
Mike is a GREAT story teller... As a yank, I still love any of the Commonwealth accents...lol @@3UZFE
Awesome animations!
Absolutely incredible! You have to wonder if the actual negatives were scanned if any enhancement could be achieved. A long shot of course, but you have to wonder.
Kudos to you and your team, Mr. Brady. I always look forward to your videos. It is obvious that you put great effort into depicting the reality of these amazing historical machines and the people aboard them. Thank you.
The fact that there are photos of that day is amazing. Besides the eyewitness testimony, there is photography proof.
9:39 If you pay attention, you can see the funnel in the left corner of the photo, and the clearest part on the right is perhaps the water rising
Another great video Mike! I've seen accounts of a woman and two other men taking photographs in different areas as the Lusitania sank, but it seems like neither the photographers or their film survived the wreck. In 1982 there was also a recovery of a reel and some other loose strips of the film 'The Carpet from Bagdad', but it's too warped and brittle to run or even roll out, and only some of the frames are still recognizable.
A completely intact camera was also recovered from the 1918 wreck of the Princess Sophia but it and its contents disintegrated before it was ever properly preserved.
I love your channel! Each DAY a new surprise to learn.
Mike Brady + RUclips = an IQ of 130.^^
Never stop doing all that. It leaves each time a legacy to history.
Brilliant as usual
Great video about a tragic story.
That was very interesting thx for making a video about this
Always an interesting watch
Had never known about these photos or drawings, very interesting Video
Always enjoy your commentary.
You are nothing else but a true genius 😀 I love your vids 😀 greetings from Denmark 😀
Fascinating !
That $17.50 pocket camera today would be $514.53 Quite a sum of money.... Thanks for your time and work. Great narration.
Amazing content Mike; I had no idea!
I’ve heard of these photos. So amazing to see them
Wow. That is amazing.
Oh You sound sick Mike I hope you’re ok. Awesome vid mate. As usual.
COVID round 3 :(
@@OceanlinerDesigns oh wow. Sorry to hear that dude. Rest up!
Cool video thank you 😊
I get so excited when I get notifications for this channel lol
Really fascinating stuff.
Always happy to have a new video at work 😁
One important correction: Lusitania's bow did _not_ collide with the bottom until after she left the surface. She sank in a very odd manner, where her stern dropped and she sank on an almost even keel, with her funnels and masts being the last to disappear.
You can see it on the wreck, where- unlike the Britannic, a ship which _did_ impact the bottom- her bow is relatively intact. You can also see it in the illustrations of the sinking, one of which you shared, which show her funnels as the last to go down, narrowly missing one of the lifeboats.
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