Imperfection and perfection are two sides of the same coin. They can not come separately. In the eyes of the Creator or Consciousness, the so called “imperfection” is allowed. So who says that “imperfection” is wrong??? Who judges something or someone as imperfect?? Ego does! I caught myself many times being disappointed because I haven’t reached the “perfect” state. What “perfect” state??? LOL What is perfection? Who again judges something as perfect or imperfect??? LOL Enlightenment is flowing with life in TOTAL acceptance of what is. Not judging and not analyzing. Exactly!!! That is TRUE HAPPINESS and PEACE. Thank you so much, Surya!!! ❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻
Keep praying everyday to whomever you feel like only for the disappearance of the mind and leave the world to take care of itself.There will be a point when mind will be not distracted by anything else and will be ultimately focused upon this only task.Finding it's own source.When that point comes, your job is done and you wouldnt be able to find any more will to do anything more.Something else will help you and dissolve the mind.Ultimately it's you that removes the mind, but it may feel like it's something from outside that is helping you out.When mind is dissolved all your doubts will vanish.And seeking will stop suddenly.You may still come back to listen to spiritual videos, but there will be no longer any goal for it.If you sincerely pray, the mind will dissolve.I promise.
Yes. Enlightenment gives one thing for sure. No birth again and escape from all sufferings forever.. The present life of prarabdha has to be endured, pain or pleasure. There is no escape from it. Definitely the suffering reduces a lot..
Good Morning! I love that I receive your message to begin my day. I appreciate your candor, and what it really takes to be a human Being. Everything you are saying is refreshing and challenging. And again! Hearing the words about "effort" jreleases something within just now in this moment. It is the very thing I've been saying NO to, but the ego is fighting this understanding. Yet, I have a smile on my face. I experience this being transmitted through your own peaceful nature. Thank you, 🙏
I didn't seek it because I didn't know what it was, only after it happened did I realise I wasn't before and it's certainly not what I would have expected it to be. It's what every religion espouses but can never be obtained through religion, in fact religion stops you from achieving it but once you do then only do you see it IS what the founder of each religion was trying to teach. It is Wu Wei(go with the flow) to the daoist, it is Islam(submission) to the Muslim it is, it is just being and you can only achieve it when you stop trying... the greatest paradox of life
Great topic and very well said, thanks! I never sought "enlightenment" but rather spiritual truth. My ego insisted on following a path through spiritual teachings and practices but eventually I let a lot go. Became more of an observer of my thoughts and life events. Less judgmental of others. Feels like I've come full circle to this moment to feel it for the first time, brimming with aliveness in the stillness. As the world goes topsy turvy, holding peace becomes a priority.❤
Everyone is seeking enlightenment or state of completion/wholeness.Most seek it unconsciously and they don't realize it, those who seek it intentionally are so called spiritual seekers. Consiousness will always seek its original, primordial state of unity.It has never been lost however.It appears to be lost because on the original state of unity mind appeared. Mind is like hallucination.Its not really there but appears to be.Until the original state is established or realized by dissolution of the phantom called the mind, seeking will not stop.
Alright, there are a few things you will lose, and some things you gain after ... I decided to call it "The shift of perspective" . That's all I had. I don't know if this is what people call " enlightenment" or not. I don't care. That's one of the things that will go, you won't care what others think of you anymore. The old you is somehow gone. Yes you are the same, but it all feels like a memory... "this is how it used to be", sort of feeling. You will lose the future. After the shift, plans and goals and all that stuff has very little, perhaps no meaning at all for you. Things somehow become ... impersonal. What you gain... nice and not so nice stuff. After the initial upsurge, things settle down and you are in new territory. There is a period of apathy and a sense of disorientation. And then comes the ugly part, what you have been avoiding all your life will happen. You will have to look into the ugly mirrors you covered all your life. You will meet your dark side. You will meet your Shadow (see C.G. Jung). Not easy, not pleasant, confrontational, painful. The damn thing is a process that never ends. There is always a deeper darker valley you haven't looked into yet. "Enlightenment", will give you what you never expected. Always. And there is NO returning the gift. You will also develop a serious allergy for masks and bulshit. People always wear masks... you will see them, and seeing what is actually a mask, can be an unpleasant experience. It's like when you notice that your mum lies to you with a smile on her face. etc etc etc. This is a Never-ending Story. You will also seek solitude and quiet... interesting stuff.
This exactly is Shivapuranam hymn in thiruvasagam just explains all concepts spritual god awakening enlightment evolution of conciousness in a nutshell, but to really understand it , we need to undergo suffering take life, births after birth to understand that ultimate goal is to attain moksha...
Shankara: 1 "Brahman is real 2 "The universe is unreal 3 "The universe is Brahman" And what if moksha is a proxy goal in the miraculous game called life? It is a game of hide and seek. When two children play hide and seek, finding each other is only a proxy goal. The point of the game is the search itself. 😀 I write this in response to the generally and uncritically shared belief that one needs to escape from samsara, but all one needs to do is awaken. Of course, suffering is the strongest motivation. I feel the same way.
Surya, when your last hour in the manifested world comes and you have to decide only between rebirth or dissolution in Nirvana, how will you decide?🌗 I ask deliberately, because in my life I met a man who from his youth was moving towards one goal. He wanted to know "how IT all IS , whether he liked it or not."🔥 And he succeeded. But unlike many awakened ones who proclaim spiritual awakening as escapism, he valued being a human being .❤ He used to say. "Man has a very sharp self-awareness, which even the gods envy us. But of course it is bought dearly by suffering." (end of quote) If Nirvana were so perfect, there would never have been a need to radiate Samsara the manifested universe.🏵🍀🥀
How to handle the trauma of the past , say, physical, emotional abuse , by near ones, and even after seeking for help, it was not possible. The whole thing remains as the scar that can't be healed after decades too.
It's such a dumb question to be honest. Every second I seem to be facing one problem or another. It seems with my investigations into advaita that all these supposed sages and saints are saying these problems can all be solved by the realization. What do you mean why? that's so dumb
I don’t particularly desire it. I certainly won’t chase it. If it happens, ok. But, if I got it and convinced myself it was from my efforts, I’d probably be an insufferable asshole.
I somewhat disagree with you, Surya in a sense. I live as the Stillness 24/7 as the Paramatma's peace. My mind is still. The Bliss body was experienced in the ascension process to the paramatma - so yes, it was temporary. However, when you are there as the screen, put your attention energetically into the Screen (i.e. non-movement, which I have heard you call Pure Awareness but I call it Pure Consciousness) appearing as the blanket still peace Peace, you will discover the underlying bliss there inside the peace. It is always there inside the peace. While I agree the screen is the ever present peace, the bliss does reside in it.
Imperfection and perfection are two sides of the same coin. They can not come separately. In the eyes of the Creator or Consciousness, the so called “imperfection” is allowed. So who says that “imperfection” is wrong??? Who judges something or someone as imperfect?? Ego does!
I caught myself many times being disappointed because I haven’t reached the “perfect” state. What “perfect” state??? LOL What is perfection? Who again judges something as perfect or imperfect??? LOL
Enlightenment is flowing with life in TOTAL acceptance of what is. Not judging and not analyzing. Exactly!!! That is TRUE HAPPINESS and PEACE.
Thank you so much, Surya!!! ❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻
Keep praying everyday to whomever you feel like only for the disappearance of the mind and leave the world to take care of itself.There will be a point when mind will be not distracted by anything else and will be ultimately focused upon this only task.Finding it's own source.When that point comes, your job is done and you wouldnt be able to find any more will to do anything more.Something else will help you and dissolve the mind.Ultimately it's you that removes the mind, but it may feel like it's something from outside that is helping you out.When mind is dissolved all your doubts will vanish.And seeking will stop suddenly.You may still come back to listen to spiritual videos, but there will be no longer any goal for it.If you sincerely pray, the mind will dissolve.I promise.
Yes. Enlightenment gives one thing for sure. No birth again and escape from all sufferings forever.. The present life of prarabdha has to be endured, pain or pleasure. There is no escape from it. Definitely the suffering reduces a lot..
Wow even with gurus that pain is still there. Your opening line hit to point
Good Morning! I love that I receive your message to begin my day. I appreciate your candor, and what it really takes to be a human Being. Everything you are saying is refreshing and challenging.
And again! Hearing the words about "effort" jreleases something within just now in this moment. It is the very thing I've been saying NO to, but the ego is fighting this understanding. Yet, I have a smile on my face. I experience this being transmitted through your own peaceful nature.
Thank you, 🙏
There is no perfect video. This one my friend is very close. Please continue even if it gets challenging.
Thank you
Thank you🙏
I didn't seek it because I didn't know what it was, only after it happened did I realise I wasn't before and it's certainly not what I would have expected it to be. It's what every religion espouses but can never be obtained through religion, in fact religion stops you from achieving it but once you do then only do you see it IS what the founder of each religion was trying to teach. It is Wu Wei(go with the flow) to the daoist, it is Islam(submission) to the Muslim it is, it is just being and you can only achieve it when you stop trying... the greatest paradox of life
Very well said ! I feel Iam listening to Rupert Spira !!
Very well said Sir🙏
Great topic and very well said, thanks! I never sought "enlightenment" but rather spiritual truth.
My ego insisted on following a path through spiritual teachings and practices but eventually I let a lot go.
Became more of an observer of my thoughts and life events. Less judgmental of others.
Feels like I've come full circle to this moment to feel it for the first time, brimming with aliveness in the stillness. As the world goes topsy turvy, holding peace becomes a priority.❤
Everyone is seeking enlightenment or state of completion/wholeness.Most seek it unconsciously and they don't realize it, those who seek it intentionally are so called spiritual seekers. Consiousness will always seek its original, primordial state of unity.It has never been lost however.It appears to be lost because on the original state of unity mind appeared. Mind is like hallucination.Its not really there but appears to be.Until the original state is established or realized by dissolution of the phantom called the mind, seeking will not stop.
Was just thinking of requesting you do another video of your own experience as there are many new people here
Men cannot be quite because, he has intelligence.
Alright, there are a few things you will lose, and some things you gain after ... I decided to call it "The shift of perspective" . That's all I had. I don't know if this is what people call " enlightenment" or not. I don't care. That's one of the things that will go, you won't care what others think of you anymore. The old you is somehow gone. Yes you are the same, but it all feels like a memory... "this is how it used to be", sort of feeling. You will lose the future. After the shift, plans and goals and all that stuff has very little, perhaps no meaning at all for you. Things somehow become ... impersonal.
What you gain... nice and not so nice stuff. After the initial upsurge, things settle down and you are in new territory. There is a period of apathy and a sense of disorientation. And then comes the ugly part, what you have been avoiding all your life will happen. You will have to look into the ugly mirrors you covered all your life. You will meet your dark side. You will meet your Shadow (see C.G. Jung). Not easy, not pleasant, confrontational, painful. The damn thing is a process that never ends. There is always a deeper darker valley you haven't looked into yet. "Enlightenment", will give you what you never expected. Always. And there is NO returning the gift.
You will also develop a serious allergy for masks and bulshit. People always wear masks... you will see them, and seeing what is actually a mask, can be an unpleasant experience. It's like when you notice that your mum lies to you with a smile on her face. etc etc etc. This is a Never-ending Story. You will also seek solitude and quiet... interesting stuff.
This exactly is Shivapuranam hymn in thiruvasagam just explains all concepts spritual god awakening enlightment evolution of conciousness in a nutshell, but to really understand it , we need to undergo suffering take life, births after birth to understand that ultimate goal is to attain moksha...
Shankara: 1 "Brahman is real 2 "The universe is unreal 3 "The universe is Brahman"
And what if moksha is a proxy goal in the miraculous game called life?
It is a game of hide and seek. When two children play hide and seek, finding each other is only a proxy goal. The point of the game is the search itself. 😀
I write this in response to the generally and uncritically shared belief that one needs to escape from samsara, but all one needs to do is awaken.
Of course, suffering is the strongest motivation. I feel the same way.
Surya, when your last hour in the manifested world comes and you have to decide only between rebirth or dissolution in Nirvana, how will you decide?🌗
I ask deliberately, because in my life I met a man who from his youth was moving towards one goal. He wanted to know "how IT all IS , whether he liked it or not."🔥
And he succeeded. But unlike many awakened ones who proclaim spiritual awakening as escapism, he valued being a human being .❤
He used to say. "Man has a very sharp self-awareness, which even the gods envy us. But of course it is bought dearly by suffering." (end of quote)
If Nirvana were so perfect, there would never have been a need to radiate Samsara the manifested universe.🏵🍀🥀
How to handle the trauma of the past , say, physical, emotional abuse , by near ones, and even after seeking for help, it was not possible. The whole thing remains as the scar that can't be healed after decades too.
It's such a dumb question to be honest. Every second I seem to be facing one problem or another. It seems with my investigations into advaita that all these supposed sages and saints are saying these problems can all be solved by the realization. What do you mean why? that's so dumb
I don’t particularly desire it. I certainly won’t chase it. If it happens, ok. But, if I got it and convinced myself it was from my efforts, I’d probably be an insufferable asshole.
I somewhat disagree with you, Surya in a sense. I live as the Stillness 24/7 as the Paramatma's peace. My mind is still. The Bliss body was experienced in the ascension process to the paramatma - so yes, it was temporary. However, when you are there as the screen, put your attention energetically into the Screen (i.e. non-movement, which I have heard you call Pure Awareness but I call it Pure Consciousness) appearing as the blanket still peace Peace, you will discover the underlying bliss there inside the peace. It is always there inside the peace. While I agree the screen is the ever present peace, the bliss does reside in it.
You're joking right?