Hi Douglas, Thank you for a great video. How did you toggle from one to the other setup? Also, would it be possible to do an Intro video explaining the differences/ advantages between DR Color Managed and ACES? Thanks again. Best.
Plesso can you give us more info about why you use ACES instead of the “more usual” with two CST nodes, the first beeing the camera color Spaces to DWG+gamma and the last one beeing from DWG+gamma into rec709+gamma ? What advantages you are finding using ACES ? Thanks. PS: I’ll be in Paris this week end … suggestions about events ? 😂
Hey David! Actually using Aces in this specific way is the standard way to use it. Using nodes is a different approach of the exact same protocol. Also it can be easy to do something wrong when using nodes so if you're at beginning of your grading journey, I'd recommend to stick to colour management. Now about events in Paris you can check websites such as "parisbouge" or even "mairie de paris" to see what's going on ;)
Hey Doug! I think it's not very practical to teach beginners that ACES is a 'look' despite being partially true. There is a much bigger picture to both ACES as a workflow, and DRTs as a means to get an image to display. Both of these are now severely ignored in understanding why you need such tools and get labelled as something you just pick because it looks nice. While there are tehnical differences, the look is never supposed to soley come from a DRT. Rather the ideal DRT is one that can make any look possible while grading underneath.
Hey bro! Hoping you're doing well :) I think your point is totally valid and I recognise that I took shortcuts in my explanation. My intent wasn't to talk about the Aces colour management framework here but only the characteristic look that its DRT has. Having said that, I know that some people will pick a specific DRT to grade underneath depending on how close of a starting point from the look they're trying to achieve it provides. It all comes down to personal preference imo.
If iam working in rec 709 color space how to trim pass in dci p3 for cinema..plz can u make tutorial on trim pass how to do trim pass rec 709 to dci p3 or dci p3 to rec 709
@@thedouglasdutton I definitely recommend and expect you to do this because when I use the magic mask, I still get small flicker errors. Other than PW, I haven't found a good explanation. I've heard of people solving this issue with a deflicker effect, but I haven't found a video related to it. Regards and best wishes.
@apagstudios1962 Was working in Yrgb which is no color management. But if you want to do this workflow, set your output color space to "none" and you'll be able to do the same thing
Depends a lot about what kind of CS your vfx assets are in. They'll have to be input in the grade upstream either from camera space or another format like Aces
Thank you for this informative video ! I wanted to know why you activate the "use custom Max.input? Why don't you leave it unchecked ? In your demonstration, is the look built between the DW709 name and the ACES output conversion node ?
Thank you! I activate it manually because I'm used to do it like this. Although leaving it by default should give you the same results. In my demo, the look should be built in DWG prior to the first CST if you're used to work in that mode
Sorry but this is complete nonsense!!! You didn't follow any of the ACES VWG discussions, did you? You absolutely have no clue what you are talking about in this video!
I'm sorry but this is a way to implement the Aces 1.3 drt in a dwg pipeline and I believe it's technically sound. What feels like nonsense to you? I'm curious?
Aces isn't a "look"
I would argue Aces is a colour management framework but Aces drt's definitely have a look.
Hi Douglas,
Thank you for a great video. How did you toggle from one to the other setup?
Also, would it be possible to do an Intro video explaining the differences/ advantages between DR Color Managed and ACES?
Thanks again.
Best.
Sure man! That could be a cool topic to talk about :)
I toggled between the 2 using the play still feature from the gallery
Also, maybe show us your color management tab in your project settings please....
Thanks
Plesso can you give us more info about why you use ACES instead of the “more usual” with two CST nodes, the first beeing the camera color Spaces to DWG+gamma and the last one beeing from DWG+gamma into rec709+gamma ? What advantages you are finding using ACES ? Thanks.
PS: I’ll be in Paris this week end … suggestions about events ? 😂
Hey David!
Actually using Aces in this specific way is the standard way to use it. Using nodes is a different approach of the exact same protocol. Also it can be easy to do something wrong when using nodes so if you're at beginning of your grading journey, I'd recommend to stick to colour management.
Now about events in Paris you can check websites such as "parisbouge" or even "mairie de paris" to see what's going on ;)
Would love to see a complete breakdown of coloring in ACES.
Coming this week
Thanks for the Tutorial. I had a bit of a play around with some VLog footage I had, and it definitely has a more filmic feel to it 😎👍
Ah fantastic to hear that!
Amazing Info
Thanks buddy!
Thanks a lot! More on ACES, if you please!
More to come!
Hey Doug! I think it's not very practical to teach beginners that ACES is a 'look' despite being partially true. There is a much bigger picture to both ACES as a workflow, and DRTs as a means to get an image to display. Both of these are now severely ignored in understanding why you need such tools and get labelled as something you just pick because it looks nice. While there are tehnical differences, the look is never supposed to soley come from a DRT. Rather the ideal DRT is one that can make any look possible while grading underneath.
Hey bro! Hoping you're doing well :)
I think your point is totally valid and I recognise that I took shortcuts in my explanation.
My intent wasn't to talk about the Aces colour management framework here but only the characteristic look that its DRT has. Having said that, I know that some people will pick a specific DRT to grade underneath depending on how close of a starting point from the look they're trying to achieve it provides. It all comes down to personal preference imo.
Loved the video ! Well done Douglas ! :)
Many thanks!
If iam working in rec 709 color space how to trim pass in dci p3 for cinema..plz can u make tutorial on trim pass how to do trim pass rec 709 to dci p3 or dci p3 to rec 709
Great bro
Thank you! Sure ill add it to the list :)
@@thedouglasdutton I definitely recommend and expect you to do this because when I use the magic mask, I still get small flicker errors. Other than PW, I haven't found a good explanation. I've heard of people solving this issue with a deflicker effect, but I haven't found a video related to it. Regards and best wishes.
Can you show us how to GRADE in aces in the next video?
Tysm
Hey, quick question why did you picked the DWG instead of the camera space? Is it already transformed to DWG under the hood?
I think he converted the footage to DWG at frist in the color management page then he did that DWG to Aces in the color page .
@@MEZCOLORIST Exactly! Thats because I am working in that CS most of the time :)
@thedouglasdutton in that case, what was your output colorspace in the color management page?
@apagstudios1962 Was working in Yrgb which is no color management. But if you want to do this workflow, set your output color space to "none" and you'll be able to do the same thing
@@thedouglasdutton then I assume you already used camera space to DWG node on the clip or pre-clip level.
Douglas are you planning create video about color grading some drone footage?
I'll add it to the list :)
@@thedouglasdutton pinky promise?😄
Awesome... How will CG Plate fit into the workflow?
Depends a lot about what kind of CS your vfx assets are in. They'll have to be input in the grade upstream either from camera space or another format like Aces
@thedouglasdutton will you be doing any video on it soon? Thanks
Thank you for this informative video !
I wanted to know why you activate the "use custom Max.input? Why don't you leave it unchecked ?
In your demonstration, is the look built between the DW709 name and the ACES output conversion node ?
Thank you! I activate it manually because I'm used to do it like this. Although leaving it by default should give you the same results. In my demo, the look should be built in DWG prior to the first CST if you're used to work in that mode
@@thedouglasdutton Concerning the emulation film in your tutorial, where should I put it in this process ?
how did you get your nodes shape changed like that rectangular?
hey question ! best monitor for color grading on mac?
Sorry but this is complete nonsense!!!
You didn't follow any of the ACES VWG discussions, did you?
You absolutely have no clue what you are talking about in this video!
I'm sorry but this is a way to implement the Aces 1.3 drt in a dwg pipeline and I believe it's technically sound. What feels like nonsense to you? I'm curious?