Intel Marketing HQ Unknown Person 1: What this idiots like this days? Intel Marketing HQ Unknown Person 2: I hear they like that strange game... PUBG. Google it mate. Intel Marketing HQ Unknown Person 1: Got it. That's how that slide was made.
Well that’s probably the fault of your wifi card. If you connect through ethernet you could probably get above 100 mbps. My isp promises up to 400 mbps. I get around 15 to 25 mbps with my wifi card but around 450 mbps when connected through ethernet.
So basically the 10th gen could've remained on the Z170 chipset with LGA1151 from 6th gen, just like the 9th, 8th and 7th gen before it... Thx Intel -.-
Toby M These boards were designed for PCI 4 but since they had problems with PCI 4 they dropped it instead of increasing the cost to make it work. Too late, they already had the boards in production.
you're baisically right. On the other hand, we will have 11th gen compatible to z490 on LGA1200 (and maybe even supporting PCI4.0 on them. 11th gen would probably not be able to run on a 1151 socket.
You can actually run 8th gen for sure and therefore most likely 9th. Now it does involve editing your bios and some other fun stuff. But it has been confirmed to work
Because intel stupid... AMD currently disables support due to BIOS Memory issue... which made me realise... RIGHT intel has like 20 cpus per gen while AMD like 10 or less... so... technically 1151 could have been 4 gens? Sadly Mobo manufacturers don't do "unique" Bioses... hell I would pay for that shit as long as I could upgrade to new gen CPU... Intel wasting money on extra useless CPUS... now they're behind on tech advancement.
@@gamerdweebentertainment1616 well you can only store so much inside of 32MB though most are 8MB or 16MB so it makes sense that AMD will have to drop support for older CPUs or split up BIOS support between them. Intel does it by just having not to many CPUs per motherboard that can run them. The resaon for the small size is it is quicker to run through 8MB then a bigger chip size like the 1GB chips on DDR and NAND Flash has even higher densities than that. The thing is do you want your computer to boot in seconds OR do you want a big data chip that can hold more than you will need on your motherboard? Intel does the "replace your entire system" thing most likely for 2 reasons. 1 They make more money but also 2 they have more CPUs per gen and putting 60 CPUs mircocode onto a signle firmware chip will be to much unless they require manufactures to go to the 32MB version of the chip which is logically slower than the 8MB and 16MB versions of the chip. Then you have that they will also have to require them to move back to the BIOS design of the interface from the modern design to save on space used. Then i just thought of a 3rd one. Intel wants to segment the market more than AMD so they have more CPUs per segment and all segments have to be in the firmware on the motherboard. They also come out with new ones and some security patches so the manufacture has to leave some space for updates making the space they can use even less. 1 work around would be to have the UI we say is the UEFI be on a different chip with all these CPUs mircocode and more on it then have the profile we are using moved over to a smaller chip that is actually used during boot but it being a one way send and not able to receive anything from the boot chip. As I thought of it I am sure some one smarter than me also has and there most likely is a problem with it. Most likely how to make it work electronically so it is a one way circuit and no feedback to come but still have firmware updates be a thing you can do and not have a ROM chip instead of a EEPROM chip for the UEFI. EEPROM allows you to update it ROM well doesn't. It will prevent any and all the firmware hacks that are being found in the boot sequence but it will carry with it its own complications too.
Sooooo they thinned the die further and used solder, but didn't use solder from Ivy-Bridge onward because the die was too thin/too small and could crack? Intel. You have some 'splaining to do.
Yeah it was bs all along. No mater how small AMD went they still soldered and were even upfront about not soldering the Ryzen APUs. I kinda wish they had done it sooner. People wouldn't have to liquid metal their CPUs then.
@@Inf1niteDreams That's how literally every corpo works. They are too big to know what's going on everywhere. Every year must be better than before, and growth must be infinite. Menagers don't know anymore what's going on around them cause they hired a lot of peoples to do work for them. It works untill it don't.
Thanks again for running this channel bilingually! I'm Czech and I made the poor choice of French rather than German when I was 11yo. It's not too late to learn German, but it would take way more willpower now. Even as a non-native speaker I can hear some slight accent in your English, but that's okay. Your pronunciation is very clear and your English is great. While I'm not much into overclocking, I'm interested in your reviews of PC hardware, you have great insight.
pretty much, this worthless lame slideshow crap wouldnt even make it past some random forum if these guys werent making videos about it, no one would even notice, cause there's nothing to tell
@@katech6020 I hear you - but like you said, "agreements". These RUclipsrs would be the first to call foul if their independence was questioned - having agreements in place only adds to those questions.
at 12:22 an other observation is the symetry in the component complex which could indicate they use 2 chiplets for the 10900k? so maybe also 2 numa nodes? like sandwitching 2 5core 10 thread cpus in one package?
Bear in mind that it takes a long time to develop, engineer, and test these new product introductions, so rather than a blow-for-blow, I see this as a hedge decision made in the past anticipating a delayed 10nm launch, but that they knew that the new chipset would be ready earlier. Rather than penalizing the chipset group, they created this hybrid as a bridge to when the two product roadmaps sync up again.
It's $30 RRP higher than a 3900X for 2 less cores and 600MHz higher single-core boost clock, but it's got a 20W higher TDP which is likely to reduce multi-core boost clock in practice. Intel's reference memory speed is 2933 vs. AMD's 3200, and they still don't have PCIe 4.0 support. For now it seems like a bit of a toss-up as to whether the 10900K or 3900X is a better value proposition. My suspicion is that benchmarking will show similar performance between the two on air cooling, probably tipping slightly towards AMD for multi-threaded loads, and the key differentiating factor for buyers will be motherboard prices.
Roman, The new board was originally designed for PCI 4 but since it had voltage ripple problems Intel decided to use PCI 3 instead. It would have cost more money and time to repair the ripple problem. The boards were ready to start production.
After 5 years of getting to know Adobe Premiere I also don't want to change. Simply because it's too much time and effort to work myself into a new software
@@der8auer I was not talking about you but INTEL through their marketing just valuing Adobe Premiere with their strange performance improvement :) Enjoy the rest of your week though!
Don't you think its too much big of a coincidence that Adobe software optimizes for more threads whenever Intel releases higher core count CPUs but the optimization doesn't leverage more cores than the Intel offering?
I wonder after that delid with a makeshift mount and using a thinner IHS with LM would we go back to temps or the same reduction in temps as delidding an 8700k/7700k. I am sure that will probably come up at some point.
I don't care if that PGA cpu was a bulldozer cpu, that hammer had me clawing at my head as much when Steve started POURING thermal paste in the mobo socket
this really sucks, i spent big on my z390 motherboard a year ago because i expected it to support 10th gen cpu's. thanks intel... guess i won't be buying your 10th gen cpu and when its time to upgrade again i think i'll go amd
Oof, that's a tough lesson to learn the hard way Don't forget though, AM4 is only going to be around for one more product cycle, so you won't have an upgrade path if you invest into AM4 with a Zen 3 CPU. I'm sure what you have has more than enough performance to last two more product generations, but, as a fellow enthusiast that always wants much more power than required(about to upgrade my 2600 to a 3700x today - definitely don't need it, definitely still want it...), I know how that scenario sucks. But, AMD has a long history of socket life cycles & backwards/forwards compatibility, as they have with AM4, as they did with AM3, and so on. So, although we don't have anything official about the next socket and it's forwards/backwards compatibility, I think it's pretty safe to say that it should also last 4 product cycles/generations, just like AM4 has/will. Just some food for thought
*walks by and looks at the 9900k owners and laughs in z270* And you guys thought intel cared.. Intels in this to make money not friends. Just ask any 7700k owner that bought new in jan/feb 2017. We have little sympathy and a buncha Itoldyouso's.
Do you think voltage/freq scaling will be similar across the board to the binned 9900KS this time? That would be interesting for undervolting and potentially much better power consumption at the same performance.
Question: I have a 9900k in a ASUS 370 Prime A-II. When I run a benchmark the cpu temperature instantly jumps from 35c to 93-94c. I think the board sensors produce an improper readout of the core temps. Also the max temp threshold in the bios Q Controller is 73c. Therefore the cpu temp exceeds the max limit of the bios and i think causes the system to shut down. I have it in a semi stable state to where i can run cinebench but during benchmark, the mouse becomes inoperative and the rgbs on the computer freeze during the test. Sometimes results in a bluescreen. Any ideas? Im beginning the board cant handle the 9900k. Just purchased the 9900 less than a week ago to replace a 8100 in a build for my wife I started a year ago.
First off have you updated the BIOS? The processor is supported starting BIOS 0602 released 2019-03-28 but may have needed several updates since for stability. Also clear the CMOS RAM after changing the CPU, refer to manual "Clear RTC memory" for instruction. Second off it's difficult to judge which temperatures you are supposed to get, i mean 94°C at benchmark load can be normal... but if it's instant then it definitely isn't. What cooler are you running again? It depends on the set power limit, i mean at 95W and a semi reasonable cooler, you should be able to avoid climbing that high. Just above 100°C, the CPU may power off for safety. Look at HWInfo or something for temperatures reported by individual CPU cores, they are mainboard independent. I don't think it's at all likely that mainboard temperature sensor is reporting wrong. I think you're really running hot.
Can you answer how high are you being able to go clocks/voltage wise with your bin? Or even if it is having a higher overclocking headroom over the 9900KS.
49 additional pins for making extra money by selling more motherboard chipsets of course! I f**king hate Intel. Their response to Zen 2 is pathetic, and Zen 3 will drive it into the ground. ETA 4 months.
not related to this vid,but would it be possible to use an industrial water cooler with its cooling fluid like R134A with a cpu cooling block,will it work or not? also i forgot you speak english :)
I keep hearing "Rocket League", and thought "Why tf would you want more VCore ground pins for Rocket League, this game doesn't quite require any OC...".
I assume the socket change was supposed to be needed but then they dropped pci gen 4 from the cpu due to design issues so rather then redo either the socket or the cpu they just hobbled out another meh product to just get cycled over in a year with the proper release.
But bottomline: even if intel doesnt bring something for gamers and especially the consumer market its doesent matter. Intel earns a lot of money on other sides. And i think thats the reason why they dont emphasise on beating amd and ryzen.
Desktops at 24 lanes is absurd these days. 8 for the PCH/chipset, 16 for GPU and 12 or 16 for storage makes sense. 40 or 48 lanes would be sensible. TR to 96 or 128. Epyc to 192 or 256.
If they'd made all the skylake derivatives compatible with Z170 onwards, I'd buy a 10-series CPU. But, since i have to change my mobo anyways in this system, I'm probably gonna go AMD. I have 2 240 rads in this case (which I like), and I run an x80 ti GPU. I don't think I have the headroom to cool a 10-core skylake. But I can handle a 12 or even 16 core Zen2 (and hopefully zen 3 later this year), so I expect by the end of the year I'll have a 3080 ti and an R9 4900X or something like that.
thanks great video, it makes you wonder , are intel in collusion with the motherboard manufacturers, really pi""ed that we now have to buy another motherboard, got to say it, im quite happy with amd at the min, no plans to massively spend any money with intel untill they stop this crap. thanks again,really informative.
Another thing to keep in mind: don't expect the marketing team at Intel to be able to answer technical questions. They just don't have enough knowledge and the presentation slides just tell the same story.
They ended early because there were questions they can't and don't want to answer. They want to avoid too much talk about their fill-in products up until they have something somewhat competitive from both performance/price pov. This is something I would do if I would be in their place.
G'day Roman, That intro with Steve was Awesome 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, So the outcome is small improvements on a new platform that wasn't necessary, the reason I will not be bothered upgrading my Intel PC for another generation, I am really sick of Intel making unnecessary platform changes in the name of greed
In all honestly who wants balls to the wall gaming rig this cpu is excellent and you could even upgrade to next gen i9 finally with pcie gen 4. Amd am4 socket is on its last legs too (besides 300 and 400 series support fiasco) so if i would want The best gaming rig and dont care about cpu heat/operating noise i would get 10900k. I currently have 3700x with x570 CH8 and looking forward to 4950x.
i need that shirt you are wearing! the extra pins are for future upgrades (software) they will be able to run PCIe4.0 with a chipset update. only one way to be certain..break out the logic analyzer haha
Looking at the intro, if you want to test how's your multicore CPU is working for a heavy single threaded demanding game (+ 7 optional used threads) just run Arma 3 Tanoa scripted mission (like Old man) in 4K at max setting and watch you GPU idling at 30%, while one CPU thread is screaming à 95%, (others are chilling at 0-35% btw). It is one of the only game who can put Intel turbo boost a total garbage, because other core are "slighlty" used thus limiting the whole rendering process. At least you may enjoy that your overclocking can speed up your FPs from 27 to 31FPs and call it your day.
These mobile game ads are really becoming too much, man!
Man, really miss the old RUclips. I miss not being bombarded with Shadow Raid ads 24/7.
@@EvilWiffles android can help u with that
heheheheehe
@@branchprediction9923 vanced
uBlock Origin works great, I don't know what an ad is.
The additional 49 pins are used for money.
Haha
They used a screenshot from PUBG Mobile lmao
hahaha completely missed that
Just another proof that these slides are made by marketing guys that doesnt know anything about gaming or computers in general
Hahaah hahaha
Intel Marketing HQ Unknown Person 1: What this idiots like this days?
Intel Marketing HQ Unknown Person 2: I hear they like that strange game... PUBG. Google it mate.
Intel Marketing HQ Unknown Person 1: Got it.
That's how that slide was made.
phones with sockets!
Intel 2021: Here is the new i9 11900K with up to 16% more RGB lighting performace
Now support 7x more color
Actually Q4 2020 :P yes Intel pulls another KabyLake here. In just 6 months it would have new CPUs and Z590 chipset.....
Intel 14++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
i9 11900k will support RGB on the IHS, because the marketing team don't know how to sell their shit.
x6 less daltonism (over previous generations)
Up to²³ 6 Times³ More********
(see last page for testing configuration printed upside down grey on white in fontsize 2)
"Up To" sounds like my isp, up to 100mb/s, delivers 1mb/s
It's like guys bragging about their pp. It is up to 7 inches XD
it's so they can't be sued. It's like Pick Up as soon As Today. It's not a promise. It Just shows the possibility.
Well that’s probably the fault of your wifi card. If you connect through ethernet you could probably get above 100 mbps. My isp promises up to 400 mbps. I get around 15 to 25 mbps with my wifi card but around 450 mbps when connected through ethernet.
So basically the 10th gen could've remained on the Z170 chipset with LGA1151 from 6th gen, just like the 9th, 8th and 7th gen before it...
Thx Intel -.-
duh
"We need new cpu"
Intel:"someone say new chipset?"
Toby M
These boards were designed for PCI 4 but since they had problems with PCI 4 they dropped it instead of increasing the cost to make it work. Too late, they already had the boards in production.
you're baisically right. On the other hand, we will have 11th gen compatible to z490 on LGA1200 (and maybe even supporting PCI4.0 on them. 11th gen would probably not be able to run on a 1151 socket.
You can actually run 8th gen for sure and therefore most likely 9th. Now it does involve editing your bios and some other fun stuff. But it has been confirmed to work
They're used to make people buy a new motherboard
Exactly, was going to say the same thing!
I'm up to it, I'm gonna upgrade from a 2600k at last. I have no problem buying a new mobo, this PC lasted me 10 fucking years lol.
@@c.james1 A new month, a new socket. 👍
To be fair to Intel... I'm sure the motherboard manufacturers LOVE them a LOOOOOT more than they love AMD...
@Filipe dos Reis 10900k= most security flaws hardware patched. Much lower pricing.
AMD : MAKE THE NEW PROCESSOR ON THE SAME SOCKET
INTEL : MAKE THE SAME PROCESSOR IN THE NEW SOCKET
so, AMD is basically the opposite of intel?
Because intel stupid... AMD currently disables support due to BIOS Memory issue... which made me realise... RIGHT intel has like 20 cpus per gen while AMD like 10 or less... so... technically 1151 could have been 4 gens? Sadly Mobo manufacturers don't do "unique" Bioses... hell I would pay for that shit as long as I could upgrade to new gen CPU... Intel wasting money on extra useless CPUS... now they're behind on tech advancement.
@@gamerdweebentertainment1616 well you can only store so much inside of 32MB though most are 8MB or 16MB so it makes sense that AMD will have to drop support for older CPUs or split up BIOS support between them. Intel does it by just having not to many CPUs per motherboard that can run them. The resaon for the small size is it is quicker to run through 8MB then a bigger chip size like the 1GB chips on DDR and NAND Flash has even higher densities than that. The thing is do you want your computer to boot in seconds OR do you want a big data chip that can hold more than you will need on your motherboard?
Intel does the "replace your entire system" thing most likely for 2 reasons. 1 They make more money but also 2 they have more CPUs per gen and putting 60 CPUs mircocode onto a signle firmware chip will be to much unless they require manufactures to go to the 32MB version of the chip which is logically slower than the 8MB and 16MB versions of the chip. Then you have that they will also have to require them to move back to the BIOS design of the interface from the modern design to save on space used.
Then i just thought of a 3rd one. Intel wants to segment the market more than AMD so they have more CPUs per segment and all segments have to be in the firmware on the motherboard. They also come out with new ones and some security patches so the manufacture has to leave some space for updates making the space they can use even less. 1 work around would be to have the UI we say is the UEFI be on a different chip with all these CPUs mircocode and more on it then have the profile we are using moved over to a smaller chip that is actually used during boot but it being a one way send and not able to receive anything from the boot chip.
As I thought of it I am sure some one smarter than me also has and there most likely is a problem with it. Most likely how to make it work electronically so it is a one way circuit and no feedback to come but still have firmware updates be a thing you can do and not have a ROM chip instead of a EEPROM chip for the UEFI. EEPROM allows you to update it ROM well doesn't. It will prevent any and all the firmware hacks that are being found in the boot sequence but it will carry with it its own complications too.
Not gonna lie I actually would like to have 6x the soldiers. Except I already play Total War on the highest amount of soldiers anyway on my Ryzen CPU.
Sooooo they thinned the die further and used solder, but didn't use solder from Ivy-Bridge onward because the die was too thin/too small and could crack?
Intel. You have some 'splaining to do.
"...no no no, you don't understand, we TOTALLY had a technical breakthrough... ...no, really, we promise..."
Yeah it was bs all along. No mater how small AMD went they still soldered and were even upfront about not soldering the Ryzen APUs. I kinda wish they had done it sooner. People wouldn't have to liquid metal their CPUs then.
1.5% faster than 9900k lol
but +100watt consumption😂
@@Deegan_Prashanth Isn't it more like +230W at one point?
@@will3641 thats for additional 1% 😅
How much faster from 9900x?
@@wadimek116 Intel:. This is fast buy
Tired of slow editing? Too few soldiers? Buy an AMD CPU and you're ready for battle!
"Don't get MAD get AMD" It exists in their website
More cores more soldiers.
LoL that's case related to amd
@@amyrenavion5175 I'd even expect Intel to have a contract for making core utilization Intel-Only in games lmao
@@laurencebarnes5361 well they did manage to do stuff similar to that with different software in the past, before they were taken to court over it.
Underrated comment spotted.
3:56 They used PUBG Mobile screenshot.
Thats Intel's marketing. High Quality made by trainee
@@Inf1niteDreams That's how literally every corpo works. They are too big to know what's going on everywhere. Every year must be better than before, and growth must be infinite. Menagers don't know anymore what's going on around them cause they hired a lot of peoples to do work for them. It works untill it don't.
They already screwed me over with LGA1151 revision 2, happy to be on AM4 now
You know it is all BS when they have to put an Asterisk next to the very first point on their slides. Especially when that is the CPU frequency.
Two asterisks. One at "Upto" and another at the frequency.
Me: How fast is it compared to a Threadripper?
Intel: You can have more soldiers and "up to" (insert meaninless numbers here)
They still have to figure out how to compete with the 3950x first...
Fuzzy Electronics They are completely different platforms.
@@wysetech2000 Ok. How about 3950x?
As soon as someone confirms 5.3 on all cores I am totally going to still buy an AMD CPU
Thanks again for running this channel bilingually!
I'm Czech and I made the poor choice of French rather than German when I was 11yo. It's not too late to learn German, but it would take way more willpower now. Even as a non-native speaker I can hear some slight accent in your English, but that's okay. Your pronunciation is very clear and your English is great.
While I'm not much into overclocking, I'm interested in your reviews of PC hardware, you have great insight.
Your community should just ignore these marketing events - like you say - until you have hard figures
They can't because they have agreements with intel
pretty much, this worthless lame slideshow crap wouldnt even make it past some random forum if these guys werent making videos about it, no one would even notice, cause there's nothing to tell
@@EspHack People are negative on Intel so why would they supply any more info for people to tear apart?
@@katech6020 I hear you - but like you said, "agreements". These RUclipsrs would be the first to call foul if their independence was questioned - having agreements in place only adds to those questions.
@@roryodonnell they have agreements to cover new stuff and to not show anything before release date. That's all. it won't affect the review.
if they'd kept the socket i'd buy one, but I'm not getting rid of my z390 Dark for such a small upgrade.
the best thing in this video was your t-shirt, I see Thomas has been working out during lockdown
Thomas the JACKED Engine.
at 12:22 an other observation is the symetry in the component complex which could indicate they use 2 chiplets for the 10900k? so maybe also 2 numa nodes? like sandwitching 2 5core 10 thread cpus in one package?
this was definitely one of the greater intros, made my day. By the way does Roman have a cat?
You need to have a cat as a youtuber
OMG.. the first minutes of this video already Freakin' GOLD!
"Thanks to Steve for joining in and confirming that you're an Intel schill".
OK, shots have been fired
Loved the intro! Laughed so much
(After the WTF moment)
Hell yeah! Just what I wanted: MORE SOLDIERS!
Bear in mind that it takes a long time to develop, engineer, and test these new product introductions, so rather than a blow-for-blow, I see this as a hedge decision made in the past anticipating a delayed 10nm launch, but that they knew that the new chipset would be ready earlier. Rather than penalizing the chipset group, they created this hybrid as a bridge to when the two product roadmaps sync up again.
omg that 1min10second intro was so brilliant. I love it! Will ask all my pals to watch this!
The math gif meme in the GN vid made my day
It's $30 RRP higher than a 3900X for 2 less cores and 600MHz higher single-core boost clock, but it's got a 20W higher TDP which is likely to reduce multi-core boost clock in practice. Intel's reference memory speed is 2933 vs. AMD's 3200, and they still don't have PCIe 4.0 support. For now it seems like a bit of a toss-up as to whether the 10900K or 3900X is a better value proposition. My suspicion is that benchmarking will show similar performance between the two on air cooling, probably tipping slightly towards AMD for multi-threaded loads, and the key differentiating factor for buyers will be motherboard prices.
Roman, The new board was originally designed for PCI 4 but since it had voltage ripple problems Intel decided to use PCI 3 instead. It would have cost more money and time to repair the ripple problem. The boards were ready to start production.
Thank you for being transparent not like the others. You are the best.
The 5.3GHz clock is "Thermal Velocity Boost" only. Aka, only works if under 70°C. So basically never under a real load.
Kinda sad these people still don't value Da Vinci Resolve, such a great video editing software...
After 5 years of getting to know Adobe Premiere I also don't want to change. Simply because it's too much time and effort to work myself into a new software
@@der8auer I was not talking about you but INTEL through their marketing just valuing Adobe Premiere with their strange performance improvement :)
Enjoy the rest of your week though!
Alone the subscribe model of Adobe should be reason enough to get rid of them.
@Karol or 'Yo, Ho, Ho edition'.
@@Keckegenkai Linus did a good video on Adobe just now
Thanks for the info. Looking forward to your benchmarks results.
rip to the cpu that got smashed by a hammer
What if intel is paying off devs to gimp amd again?
Don't you think its too much big of a coincidence that Adobe software optimizes for more threads whenever Intel releases higher core count CPUs but the optimization doesn't leverage more cores than the Intel offering?
This new platform and CPU seems entirely pointless and just a money grab
Wait? You said six TIMES more soldiers, not just six more soldiers? MUST HAVE.
I wonder after that delid with a makeshift mount and using a thinner IHS with LM would we go back to temps or the same reduction in temps as delidding an 8700k/7700k. I am sure that will probably come up at some point.
What's bad, Alder Lake (next one after Rocket L.) do not pass into lga1200, so again new socket...
I don't care if that PGA cpu was a bulldozer cpu, that hammer had me clawing at my head as much when Steve started POURING thermal paste in the mobo socket
Up to 50% more expensive. I can't wait for ampere announcement.
this really sucks, i spent big on my z390 motherboard a year ago because i expected it to support 10th gen cpu's.
thanks intel... guess i won't be buying your 10th gen cpu and when its time to upgrade again i think i'll go amd
Oof, that's a tough lesson to learn the hard way
Don't forget though, AM4 is only going to be around for one more product cycle, so you won't have an upgrade path if you invest into AM4 with a Zen 3 CPU. I'm sure what you have has more than enough performance to last two more product generations, but, as a fellow enthusiast that always wants much more power than required(about to upgrade my 2600 to a 3700x today - definitely don't need it, definitely still want it...), I know how that scenario sucks.
But, AMD has a long history of socket life cycles & backwards/forwards compatibility, as they have with AM4, as they did with AM3, and so on. So, although we don't have anything official about the next socket and it's forwards/backwards compatibility, I think it's pretty safe to say that it should also last 4 product cycles/generations, just like AM4 has/will.
Just some food for thought
same
Jake
Byeee!!!
Why would you expect that? Intel has supported only 2 generations per socket for ages.
*walks by and looks at the 9900k owners and laughs in z270* And you guys thought intel cared.. Intels in this to make money not friends. Just ask any 7700k owner that bought new in jan/feb 2017. We have little sympathy and a buncha Itoldyouso's.
Do you think voltage/freq scaling will be similar across the board to the binned 9900KS this time? That would be interesting for undervolting and potentially much better power consumption at the same performance.
Question: I have a 9900k in a ASUS 370 Prime A-II. When I run a benchmark the cpu temperature instantly jumps from 35c to 93-94c. I think the board sensors produce an improper readout of the core temps. Also the max temp threshold in the bios Q Controller is 73c. Therefore the cpu temp exceeds the max limit of the bios and i think causes the system to shut down. I have it in a semi stable state to where i can run cinebench but during benchmark, the mouse becomes inoperative and the rgbs on the computer freeze during the test. Sometimes results in a bluescreen. Any ideas? Im beginning the board cant handle the 9900k. Just purchased the 9900 less than a week ago to replace a 8100 in a build for my wife I started a year ago.
First off have you updated the BIOS? The processor is supported starting BIOS 0602 released 2019-03-28 but may have needed several updates since for stability. Also clear the CMOS RAM after changing the CPU, refer to manual "Clear RTC memory" for instruction.
Second off it's difficult to judge which temperatures you are supposed to get, i mean 94°C at benchmark load can be normal... but if it's instant then it definitely isn't. What cooler are you running again? It depends on the set power limit, i mean at 95W and a semi reasonable cooler, you should be able to avoid climbing that high. Just above 100°C, the CPU may power off for safety.
Look at HWInfo or something for temperatures reported by individual CPU cores, they are mainboard independent. I don't think it's at all likely that mainboard temperature sensor is reporting wrong. I think you're really running hot.
wonder if anyone would try modding the socket keying to see if 10th gen cpus would work in lga 1151 mobo, with a modded bios like lga 771 in 775 board
Will we get LGA1200 to LGA1151 mods like we had LGA771 to LGA775 mods?
That intro is priceless, love it.
Can you answer how high are you being able to go clocks/voltage wise with your bin? Or even if it is having a higher overclocking headroom over the 9900KS.
One guess is that Intel wants to pre-seed LGA1200 motherboards for the next-generation processor?
The socket change is necessary because of the power draw and OEM's. ;)
49 additional pins for making extra money by selling more motherboard chipsets of course! I f**king hate Intel. Their response to Zen 2 is pathetic, and Zen 3 will drive it into the ground. ETA 4 months.
That intro man..just perfect! The romance continues :D
They are really getting desperate now...
This launch is gonna be a meme :D
*edit* Hadn’t seen the chipset specs yet. What a joke...
Robin Reekmans I don't see Intel being desperate since they had record sales in Q1 2020.
@@wysetech2000 Record sales in what though? Intel makes a lot of money, most of it is not from cpus like the 9900k.
not related to this vid,but would it be possible to use an industrial water cooler with its cooling fluid like R134A with a cpu cooling block,will it work or not? also i forgot you speak english :)
INSTRUCTION SET WRITTEN ON THE DIE THAT HELPS WITH ARTIFACTS, sorry for all caps
The intro was fantastic 😂😂
I need more soldiers
Corsair icue now work with 12 dimms!
What is mean by the "IPC"? To me, it is the inter-process communication.
Anyone got a link to the advertising clip? I haven't seen it
They might need the new socket for increased power delivery. +2 cores, increased TDP, increased clocks - the increased power draw must be non-trivial.
What architecture size are they, surely still not 14nm, what is it now 14++++
I keep hearing "Rocket League", and thought "Why tf would you want more VCore ground pins for Rocket League, this game doesn't quite require any OC...".
I have almost 7 year old PC, i7-4770k how much % improvement will I get?
should i buy the 10900k to have 6 times more soldiers or wait 11th gen to have even more soldiers ?
Improved out of the box thermals
I assume the socket change was supposed to be needed but then they dropped pci gen 4 from the cpu due to design issues so rather then redo either the socket or the cpu they just hobbled out another meh product to just get cycled over in a year with the proper release.
Intro was freaking awesome :D hahahaha
Is it possible to do direct die cooling on this new cpu
But bottomline: even if intel doesnt bring something for gamers and especially the consumer market its doesent matter. Intel earns a lot of money on other sides. And i think thats the reason why they dont emphasise on beating amd and ryzen.
Desktops at 24 lanes is absurd these days. 8 for the PCH/chipset, 16 for GPU and 12 or 16 for storage makes sense. 40 or 48 lanes would be sensible. TR to 96 or 128. Epyc to 192 or 256.
it hurts seeing a procesor getting destroyed
If they'd made all the skylake derivatives compatible with Z170 onwards, I'd buy a 10-series CPU. But, since i have to change my mobo anyways in this system, I'm probably gonna go AMD. I have 2 240 rads in this case (which I like), and I run an x80 ti GPU. I don't think I have the headroom to cool a 10-core skylake. But I can handle a 12 or even 16 core Zen2 (and hopefully zen 3 later this year), so I expect by the end of the year I'll have a 3080 ti and an R9 4900X or something like that.
Please tell me that was a Sempron being wrecked.
great intro once again
also: i like your shirt.
my heart kinda stopped when i saw the cpu getting hammered.
Move on from 14nm, or just keep overclocking the CPU until the lights dim and the IHS melts?
thanks great video, it makes you wonder , are intel in collusion with the motherboard manufacturers, really pi""ed that we now have to buy another motherboard, got to say it, im quite happy with amd at the min, no plans to massively spend any money with intel untill they stop this crap. thanks again,really informative.
Another thing to keep in mind: don't expect the marketing team at Intel to be able to answer technical questions. They just don't have enough knowledge and the presentation slides just tell the same story.
waiting for your 10900k delid video!
The intro was so funny :D
They ended early because there were questions they can't and don't want to answer. They want to avoid too much talk about their fill-in products up until they have something somewhat competitive from both performance/price pov. This is something I would do if I would be in their place.
where can I buy that shirt ?
Best. Intro. Ever. That is all.
What is Jesus doing in your video?
G'day Roman,
That intro with Steve was Awesome 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣,
So the outcome is small improvements on a new platform that wasn't necessary, the reason I will not be bothered upgrading my Intel PC for another generation,
I am really sick of Intel making unnecessary platform changes in the name of greed
At last! Roman has full led tile wall!
OK, I clicked thumbs up right after the intro. Now, let's see the rest of the video.
In all honestly who wants balls to the wall gaming rig this cpu is excellent and you could even upgrade to next gen i9 finally with pcie gen 4. Amd am4 socket is on its last legs too (besides 300 and 400 series support fiasco) so if i would want The best gaming rig and dont care about cpu heat/operating noise i would get 10900k. I currently have 3700x with x570 CH8 and looking forward to 4950x.
This codename "Rocket Lake" sounds like "Rocket League". Lmao.
6x more cars!
@@zarmaanful *up to
@@flame2385 Sorry, I forgot that asterisks are the new thing XD
Can't wait until they come out
thanks Roman for this Info!
i need that shirt you are wearing! the extra pins are for future upgrades (software) they will be able to run PCIe4.0 with a chipset update. only one way to be certain..break out the logic analyzer haha
When is the intel Core i9 D launching?
Loved it! Make more videos like this, please 😁😍😍
I can't wait for a Jimmy Neutron making Thomas The Tank review!
Looking at the intro, if you want to test how's your multicore CPU is working for a heavy single threaded demanding game (+ 7 optional used threads) just run Arma 3 Tanoa scripted mission (like Old man) in 4K at max setting and watch you GPU idling at 30%, while one CPU thread is screaming à 95%, (others are chilling at 0-35% btw). It is one of the only game who can put Intel turbo boost a total garbage, because other core are "slighlty" used thus limiting the whole rendering process. At least you may enjoy that your overclocking can speed up your FPs from 27 to 31FPs and call it your day.