@@Fixologist1I kind of like Ubuntu is pretty easy to install too and if you can even when you're installing it Make it dual boot alongside a windows so that you can boot either or and it'll make its own hard drive partition during installation
Damn, i did way too many upgrades like this in my life. Anyway: - That's way too much thermal paste. Putting too much paste may be actually detrimental to the thermics of the cpu, since when squeezed between the die and the thermal block it will end up everywhere on the cpu and end up heating pcb parts of the cpu that wouldn't heat otherwise (or would be cooler than the die anyway) - Missing pins are a good indicator, but there is a little triangle on one of the corners of the socket. There is also a little triangle on the cpu itself. The triangle on the socket shows you which way should the triangle on the cpu go. - I usually clean the thermal paste using some rubbing alcohol and some q-tips. You don't want to leave any of the old paste still there, as it will mix with the new one and degrade it's performance. On machines this old the thermal performance is really important. More work on CPU means more heat, more heat means you reach thermal throttling sooner, and thermal throttling is performance killer. - As said by many before me, upgrade to ssd, it will be like day and night situation. - You might also want to replace these thermal pads you have around your CPU. These cool down the regulators that provide power to the cpu. They degrade over time and do not conduct as they should. I had problems with my PC just shutting down due to heat and replacing these fixed my issues (also stopped the cpu itself for thermothrottling).
you should swap out your harddrive with an ssd your speed and load times will increase upto 5x faster or switch to linux which is a fast operating system
@@Fixologist1 Watching this on 2008 Macbook Unibody with 8 GB RAM running Monterey thanks to OCLP, it is utterly ridiculous what people spend their money on. I picked up this laptop a year and a half ago for 40 bucks at Goodwill. When I can no longer get updates for Monterey (coming later this year for sure), I may just keep running Monterey until I can't get browser updates (three more years probably), or switch the laptop over to MX or AntiX and use it for another five years.
Thats becuz defaultly windows turned on "turn on fast boot" on control panel power settings. When this feature turned on the system closes all softwares and hibernates the kernel softwares. At that time of restart, The System fully flushes out all the softwares and corrects the registry databases and of CPU Details Registry-Path: Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DESCRIPTION\System\CentralProcessor\0
Hello Brad. I have followed the Guitologist channel for some years now and just discovered the Fixologist channel. I worked as a computer hardware repair technician going back to the1970's with Apple II, original IBM PC's and CP/M based systems. I found this video interesting. It's was a very good idea to clean off the old compound on the heat pipe/cooler assembly before applying new heat compound. . After removing the bulk or the compound, you should clean the copper portion of the heat pipe with alcohol, which will easily remove old compound and any remaining residue. The idea being that the cleaner the two surfaces are, the better the heat transfer will be. As for new heat compound, you only need to use a bead about the size of a small pea on the CPU and GPU. Hopefully you cleaned the old compound off the graphics CPU, which I assume you did, but didn't show in the video, before you applied new compound. As for orientation of the cpu, you'll see a yellow triangle printed in the top face of the cpu that corresponds to the corner with the "missing pin". You'll also see a corresponding triangle embossed in the cpu socket (to the right of the locking screw), Just match up the triangles and you're good. While upgrading the CPU an memory will certainly result in a performance boost, you might consider replacing the mechanical hard disk drive with a solid state one. This would result in a best possible boost in overall system performance -- much more than the CPU change. A high quality 500GB solid state drive, like a Samsung 870EVO is under $60 (on Amazon as I write this) and will SIGNIFICANTLY improve the system overall speed as well as lengthen battery life a bit. Good luck and thanks for the videos!
I just installed a 256GB SSD today. It was about $30. Installed Linux Mint and I think it's good for a while. Still a useful machine instead of slow trash, which is what it was before.
@@Fixologist1 Perfect. SSD's are at reasonably priced and have been for at east the last year or so...I think you'll find that $30 goes a long way to improving system performance -- especially with the ram and CPU upgrades. God luck with it!
I did the same thing with a thinkpad, swapped the i5 it had for an i7 from aliexpress, the performance was better although the cooling isn't the optimal.
great to see laptops kept from going to the landfill...you could get a bit more bang for your buck by installing Linux on it, which is 100% free. Installing and using Linux is not as intimidating as it once was. Some distributions are almost indistinguishable from Windows, and many are made to run on minimal hardware. Linux Mint and Zorin OS are two distributions that are geared toward people transitioning from Windows.
I like the older ones that let you swap out the cpu for a much faster one. Nowadays they’re soldered to the mobo along with the hard drive, and all you can do is add memory…
The older del were tanks. Hell for stout. Upgraded a few of them through the years. Very good video and informative. Might be a couple of years ago but relevant still. Thanks for sharing. I was lucky enough to to have a little brother to walk me through it over the phone. Wish a manufacturer would come out with one with a 20 year guaranteed upgradable.
I have a lenovo ideapad that I bought back 7 years ago and about a few years ago I upgraded the ram and put a ssd in it and the performance was way better than it was before.
Hey Brad. Is that a flattened/bent copper bar for heat transfer from the processors to the fan? A fan just blowin on a bar? Doesn't sound real heat efficient! At least it works though, good job! I wonder if my hp laptop running xp is upgradable?
Sweet Jesus that’s way too much thermal paste my bro! About a 3rd of that is needed. More is not better, it will make your processor run hotter so it will hit the heat threshold quicker and that means a slower computer
I thought user replaceable CPU is a thing of the long past on laptops. RAM and Drive, sure but this is only doable on a minority of the machines. Still, for the ones, it’s super useful.
Jeez dude, get an SSD. You're only 10 years late for this. Also, this machine can most likely take 16 GB RAM. Depending on what you do with it, it may or may not be worth it.
@@Fixologist1 I'll probably also buy this exact model and will be comparing it to E6410, Dell's equivalent to this HP. Been E6410 user for years. Probably won't install Linux tho.
@@Fixologist1 I'm not sure. The TV you're in, all in a computer monitor is hard to look at for me, but also there is some issue with frame rate or video quality where the your movements aren't fluid, seemed slowed down and it all makes me a bit nauseous. Bizarre.
After re-watch I see what you are saying. It's like what I would call jump cuts. Several are obvious but quite a few that seems like a split second was cut and it's kinda jumpy and doesn't flow. I honestly didn't notice it the first time around. I know there were a few edits I could tell were on purpose but I wonder if maybe the others are an artifact from compression or from the TV overlay? I don't know how all that works but just a guess. It still doesn't bother me but I can see how it can effect some people.
Unfortunately, many laptops have the CPU soldered to the mobo these days.
Changing from a spinning hard drive to SSD will improve speed, space and reliability as well... usually more applicable to desktops
Just installed an SSD 256GB tonight. It was about $30. Installed Linux Mint, and now she's rocking.
@@Fixologist1I kind of like Ubuntu is pretty easy to install too and if you can even when you're installing it Make it dual boot alongside a windows so that you can boot either or and it'll make its own hard drive partition during installation
Damn, i did way too many upgrades like this in my life. Anyway:
- That's way too much thermal paste. Putting too much paste may be actually detrimental to the thermics of the cpu, since when squeezed between the die and the thermal block it will end up everywhere on the cpu and end up heating pcb parts of the cpu that wouldn't heat otherwise (or would be cooler than the die anyway)
- Missing pins are a good indicator, but there is a little triangle on one of the corners of the socket. There is also a little triangle on the cpu itself. The triangle on the socket shows you which way should the triangle on the cpu go.
- I usually clean the thermal paste using some rubbing alcohol and some q-tips. You don't want to leave any of the old paste still there, as it will mix with the new one and degrade it's performance. On machines this old the thermal performance is really important. More work on CPU means more heat, more heat means you reach thermal throttling sooner, and thermal throttling is performance killer.
- As said by many before me, upgrade to ssd, it will be like day and night situation.
- You might also want to replace these thermal pads you have around your CPU. These cool down the regulators that provide power to the cpu. They degrade over time and do not conduct as they should. I had problems with my PC just shutting down due to heat and replacing these fixed my issues (also stopped the cpu itself for thermothrottling).
you should swap out your harddrive with an ssd your speed and load times will increase upto 5x faster or switch to linux which is a fast operating system
Helpful info Tkx Brad!
When they stop taking new updates its time for the bin, that's me anyway after a while.
My 14 year old hp desktop is out on the porch right now, windows 7 pro, 16 gb ram, amd 2.8 ghz cpu, 256 gb ssd. I don't even want the parts back.
Install Linux Mint 23 and you're back in business with that laptop dude.
@@Fixologist1 Watching this on 2008 Macbook Unibody with 8 GB RAM running Monterey thanks to OCLP, it is utterly ridiculous what people spend their money on. I picked up this laptop a year and a half ago for 40 bucks at Goodwill. When I can no longer get updates for Monterey (coming later this year for sure), I may just keep running Monterey until I can't get browser updates (three more years probably), or switch the laptop over to MX or AntiX and use it for another five years.
Thats becuz defaultly windows turned on "turn on fast boot" on control panel power settings. When this feature turned on the system closes all softwares and hibernates the kernel softwares.
At that time of restart, The System fully flushes out all the softwares and corrects the registry databases and of CPU Details
Registry-Path: Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DESCRIPTION\System\CentralProcessor\0
long time no see. hope you been good Bradley.
Hello Brad.
I have followed the Guitologist channel for some years now and just discovered the Fixologist channel. I worked as a computer hardware repair technician going back to the1970's with Apple II, original IBM PC's and CP/M based systems. I found this video interesting. It's was a very good idea to clean off the old compound on the heat pipe/cooler assembly before applying new heat compound. . After removing the bulk or the compound, you should clean the copper portion of the heat pipe with alcohol, which will easily remove old compound and any remaining residue. The idea being that the cleaner the two surfaces are, the better the heat transfer will be.
As for new heat compound, you only need to use a bead about the size of a small pea on the CPU and GPU. Hopefully you cleaned the old compound off the graphics CPU, which I assume you did, but didn't show in the video, before you applied new compound.
As for orientation of the cpu, you'll see a yellow triangle printed in the top face of the cpu that corresponds to the corner with the "missing pin". You'll also see a corresponding triangle embossed in the cpu socket (to the right of the locking screw), Just match up the triangles and you're good.
While upgrading the CPU an memory will certainly result in a performance boost, you might consider replacing the mechanical hard disk drive with a solid state one. This would result in a best possible boost in overall system performance -- much more than the CPU change. A high quality 500GB solid state drive, like a Samsung 870EVO is under $60 (on Amazon as I write this) and will SIGNIFICANTLY improve the system overall speed as well as lengthen battery life a bit.
Good luck and thanks for the videos!
I just installed a 256GB SSD today. It was about $30. Installed Linux Mint and I think it's good for a while. Still a useful machine instead of slow trash, which is what it was before.
@@Fixologist1 Perfect. SSD's are at reasonably priced and have been for at east the last year or so...I think you'll find that $30 goes a long way to improving system performance -- especially with the ram and CPU upgrades. God luck with it!
I did the same thing with a thinkpad, swapped the i5 it had for an i7 from aliexpress, the performance was better although the cooling isn't the optimal.
great to see laptops kept from going to the landfill...you could get a bit more bang for your buck by installing Linux on it, which is 100% free. Installing and using Linux is not as intimidating as it once was. Some distributions are almost indistinguishable from Windows, and many are made to run on minimal hardware. Linux Mint and Zorin OS are two distributions that are geared toward people transitioning from Windows.
I'm so far behind I have Windows 7 on my tower and a laptop that I don't know how to work Windows 10 it doesn't look anywhere nearly the same
I like the older ones that let you swap out the cpu for a much faster one. Nowadays they’re soldered to the mobo along with the hard drive, and all you can do is add memory…
Yep. Wonder why they did that... hmmm...
The older del were tanks. Hell for stout. Upgraded a few of them through the years. Very good video and informative. Might be a couple of years ago but relevant still. Thanks for sharing. I was lucky enough to to have a little brother to walk me through it over the phone. Wish a manufacturer would come out with one with a 20 year guaranteed upgradable.
They will loose money..that will never happen..they only care about the bottom line
I have a lenovo ideapad that I bought back 7 years ago and about a few years ago I upgraded the ram and put a ssd in it and the performance was way better than it was before.
way to much coolpaste dude 😃
You're probably right.
i had that same shirt and lost it at the beach. sad moment.
You walked home shirtless?
Were you accosted by the fruity fraternity?
Hey Brad. Is that a flattened/bent copper bar for heat transfer from the processors to the fan? A fan just blowin on a bar? Doesn't sound real heat efficient! At least it works though, good job!
I wonder if my hp laptop running xp is upgradable?
Yeah, this thing runs hot. The fan isn’t great. What model is your laptop?
Damn, Brad! Have a little CPU with your thermal paste 😂 a pea sized amount is almost too much on that little die
Sweet Jesus that’s way too much thermal paste my bro! About a 3rd of that is needed. More is not better, it will make your processor run hotter so it will hit the heat threshold quicker and that means a slower computer
Always research your machine. I have an old amd laptop that has early sata and an ssd does not speed it up.
If you don't swap the mechanical disk with an ssd, no upgrade is going to fix the performance
True. The disk is slow as Christmas.
Brad change to linux get rid of windows ! I run ubuntu 24.04 lts 10 years of free support and updates.
I thought user replaceable CPU is a thing of the long past on laptops. RAM and Drive, sure but this is only doable on a minority of the machines. Still, for the ones, it’s super useful.
This is correct on newer machines, yes.
This is correct on newer machines, yes.
How can I get amp repair from you
Until Win 11 is needed.
Linux after that.
I have put in Ram it's not that hard just thinking about it makes my brain hurt
I despise laptops
Jeez dude, get an SSD. You're only 10 years late for this. Also, this machine can most likely take 16 GB RAM. Depending on what you do with it, it may or may not be worth it.
Tell you what, let's order an ssd and do some meaurements on how long it takes to complete some tasks before and after. We'll install Linux too.
@@Fixologist1 I'll probably also buy this exact model and will be comparing it to E6410, Dell's equivalent to this HP. Been E6410 user for years. Probably won't install Linux tho.
The intro to this video is hard to watch.
Why?
I did not find it difficult, quite the opposite. Kinda nostalgic. But I'm a child of the 70s
@@Fixologist1 Im younger than most here and found it just fine. lol
@@Fixologist1 I'm not sure. The TV you're in, all in a computer monitor is hard to look at for me, but also there is some issue with frame rate or video quality where the your movements aren't fluid, seemed slowed down and it all makes me a bit nauseous. Bizarre.
After re-watch I see what you are saying. It's like what I would call jump cuts. Several are obvious but quite a few that seems like a split second was cut and it's kinda jumpy and doesn't flow. I honestly didn't notice it the first time around. I know there were a few edits I could tell were on purpose but I wonder if maybe the others are an artifact from compression or from the TV overlay? I don't know how all that works but just a guess. It still doesn't bother me but I can see how it can effect some people.
Oh sh*t, what a waste of thermo paste - you don't need to use it all.
that mic is so fall down your throat I can hear your heartbeat.. annoying..
I just swapped those for deez in my old machine.
The deez i used was my nuts.
👌 made you look.