And as long as the DA has Helen interfering in agreements made by the gnu there will never be any progress. Even ff+ said they could not work with da due to Helen.
@trueblu-f2r we are talking about ANC corruption not Helen Zillie. Yes she needs to go but that will not stop ANC corruption. Corruption is part of the ANC DNA. THEY CAN'T HELP THEMSELFS DESPITE THE ZONDO COMMISSION.
It always tickles me when people say "on the brink" when speaking of the failed state in which we live! We are no longer on the brink - we are down the shitter! Get real!
Not the first time! Ancient Rome, a city then of over 2 million, was conquered by the Huns, sabotaged the water supply, and shrunk to some 60k inhabitants!
Rand water once world class slowly being broken down, mismanaged riddled with corruption, all covering up on the bad maintenance and poorly managed projects.expertise emmigrating as it gets stressful and high risk.
It also show that it never was theirs...as claimed. Why would you destroy something that you worked to build up for the greater good? Same goes for the rest of the country😢
Talking about it won't help..paying for it" won't work either..we deal with a crisis talked and warned about by PW Botha..He said everything they touch turns to decay.i quote " consume they can..produce never
Ian Smith the Prime Minister of Rhodesia then said that there'll come a day when the blacks will walk in their own shyt and think its normal...how true his words have come..
Excuse me .. That's the only action that will save SOUTH AFRICA .. PRAYER😮🙏 SA was always a praying Nation until the unbelievers took over ANC praying to ancestors and not THE GOD of Abraham Isaac and Jacob .. then cutting of the Apple of God Almighty's eye .. ISRAEL 😮🙏 "Return first, to Me and I will Heal your Land!"🙏🙏🙏
You are talking about that satanic man who moved people from their own land that they were using before he and his evil satanic friends came to rape and murder them. How can you produce where you are not allowed to. In places like in the homelands where people could freely farm they did very well but of course you are not interested in that piece of information.
We have had no water since Sunday. Water came on today but intermittently. Then goes off. Now it is 9.30 pm no water. Haven't done washing for the whole week.
Kader Asmal clearly did not have a grasp at all. Ooh it will bite them in the bum. The chickens are coming home to rooste. They are not racional these people. Power and arrogance far surpasses function and service delivery.
The Rand Water problem does not only affect Joburg. It affects the whole network, all the way to Secunda, Bethal and beyond in the West of Mpumalanga, on a regular basis. Intermittent potable water supply to the Sasol Secunda Plant - a National Key Point installation, and the supplier of much of the Inland fuel. The supply was interrupted to the whole area once every few months, now it is is almost daily. JoJo and similar must be making a killing with all the tanks being installed. Civil infrastructure takes decades to degrade. It also takes decades to restore. We are screwed, and unlike electricity, there is not much one can do about an alternative source. Very recent report from DWS (September 2024) is that for Joburg, up to 45% of pumped water is not paid for, and just over 35% of water runs to waste. Both shocking stats. So, you over use the infrastructure to account for the leaks and then you don't get payment for it. 5:39 What a brilliant summary.
Where is Lesufi he must sort it out, your promises is hitting you hard. Come sort your mess out, it is past 100 days, and everything is worse, how disappointing for everybody in Gauteng! Come Lesufi sort out the problem with the water, sort out the problem it is urgent!! The. People need water, snap clap and give it urgent attention😮😮😮😮😮
Voters are too ignorant and should take responsibility. You get what you vote for. Surely your decaying city should speak for itself and yet you vote the same expecting something different. I remember being taught in junior school in the mid 60s about the Losotha Water Highlands Project and it still has not reached its fruition with supplying the water needs of Guateng.
Lesufi seems to think water is a national problem. Hes not in the least concerned that the ppl of Lesufi country will not have basic human rights like water. He did not put pressure on national gov to rectify it either. He therefore probably does not see a long career for hself with the prov.
That's the hard truth about the matter (the truth one has to avoid for the sake of such consensus is still possible, I think): the trouble started _under_ Mandela. Whatever his own personal practical contributions add up to with hindsight, he had ministers with all the confidence on Earth, but often lacking in matching ability. It's the kind of thing that if the ordinary voter just faced up to enough to just see it's so, that could lead to changes in a direction in which there's at least some hope. It's all good and well finally acknowledging the disastrous quality of the Zuma government, but it doesn't help imagining we can go back to the ways of "better times" under Mandela and Mubeki (Robert Gabriel Mubeki, I mean - for all his virtues). These "good times" didn't really exist. What we need is a completely new approach, not a reconstitution of a fictional ANC that "governed well", when really it didn't. Remember how all the teachers got retrenched (up to a slight exaggeration)? That happened before the millenium. Remember how Eskom got rid of even technicians? Same thing. And senior managers with experience, too, replaced by a tenfold increase in the most senior posts, not all filled by people with even basic competence. Remember the "grey man" story that was true for quite a lot of people? Too many years on the job to be able to move to a position of the same level in another organization, but with pension still quite a long way off, and future prospects of advancement cancelled. So be the "grey man" who does the actual work, keeps things running, while someone else gets the salary and gets good at doing lunch, and never learns how to actually run things. That was a long time ago. I think that phenomenon had passed by the time of Zuma, even? The unexpected benefit of that time was that the country gained a lot of new businessmen with families that needed them to succeed, and the old "job for life" gone forever - not part of the ANC master plan, but it probably helped slow the decline. A bit of luck for the country as a whole - like the world economic high tide that floated everyone's boat, and made things look better than they really were was in some respects a bit of luck, too. The point of this is that there isn't some "better ANC" we can go back to. Apart from that it's just history. That's how things worked out. Leave it there. Water under the bridge. All we need to make of it is to work from a realistic understanding of what went before (weighed as one of the options for _where to go next_ ). We don't need to mothball training institutes forever again. We don't need to leave building new dams to the next administration again. We don't need to go turning over more farms making R30 million old-rands profit into R30 million loss makers. We just need to make sure we understand that there's no road backwards that leads to anywhere good. We need to move forward instead, and just make the best of what we have left after all this destruction.
Cities in the wrong place? Jozi is where it is because of mineral wealth. To profess cities on the coast do better, ignore the disastrous situation of us on the Hibiscus coast of KZN, a strip of country RWJ knows well. For years we have no sustained water and the problem has not been addressed with any urgency or competency
One can see who took the accolades for the Lesotho highlands project, anc had very little input, they let rsa down, maintenance is nt mentioned in any manifesto , too busy with corruption
Why do these fools think joburg was maid to stay in For Ever? No. It was build kilometres awy from any water . Water had to pump from the dam too joburg. This was during the gold rush. No one is rushing for gold now. Its water. There is none. So? Joburg will collapse!
There is water. That’s why the Lesotho Highlands water scheme was put in place. Some cities in the desert survive because they have water infrastructure. Johannesburg had that too.
The problem with you people is that you suffer from selective amnesia. CT has been having the same problem for years now and it happens there you lot choose to SEARCH for a reason why that it and never blame it on the DA. Fotshek man Foooootshek
Why would they if they never had infrastructure. They are incompatible with reality😢 thats why it is so easy for globalists to capture SA and let them dismantle it for them. Its in their nature to divide and rule.
Water, globally, cannot become "more scarce". Geographic distribution and water cycles can change (because of climate change), but overall volume remains constant.
You clearly do not understand the situation.. There is only so much water to go around.. the population is increasing year on year and nothing is being done about that. We lose 50% of our water in Gauteng from old leaking pipes.. we pollute our rivers & dams with sewage. Gauteng will soon become uninhabitable within 10 years, the people will either die from poisoned water or they will have to leave.
Alec, when will you & others with platforms start to publicly ask very direct questions to the ruling elite? You for example have been far too gentle on guys like Mashaba. Their mismanagement & shameless arrogance must be exposed to the voting public.
Consumer awareness on using water more sparingly. it is an essential step forward, towards realizing that when you open the tap you become more aware of the resource coming out the tap. Some taps, for example your lever tap can waste a lot of water given it's design and the water pressure flowing through it. A concerted awareness of this problem by the end user will have a significant impact on water supply.
What IQ is DA? People rejected anc and da chose to return them to power in return for blue lights and are now part and parcel of the feeding frenzy. Your organisation agreed to a bloated cabinet and deputy ministers and agreed to not take part in future impeachment action of Phalaphala, Shut up now
Exactly true,it was a good thing to give more people service's,but they just cut the pie in smaller pieces and not making a bigger pie, no planning and using god given brain's.
ONLY HIGHWAYS THRIVING TO ACCOMMODATE LUXARY VEHICLES TO ALLOW TRAVEL CITY TO CITY.. WHO KNOWS WHO PAYS FOR THE CARS AND PETROL.. FAST FOODS SUCH AS KFC NO2.. AND LIQUOR STORES.. WILL FLORISH.
First off great journalism. Secondly, I thnk Joburg is too big to fail and eventually, potentially at the last possible minute, it will turn around through the influence of the many powerful stakeholders in the city, a city that represents about a third of South Africa's economic output.
@@davidkotze4140 Why do you hope so? Most Cape Townians are gleefully happy when they hear of Joburg's woes. It provides them with a sense of feeling better that they live in CPT and not in JHB. It's their "I told you so" moment when they hear about Jozi's woes. So I'm genuinely interested in your motivations why you hope so.
As long as the ANC is in charge corruption and incompetence rules.
And as long as the DA has Helen interfering in agreements made by the gnu there will never be any progress. Even ff+ said they could not work with da due to Helen.
@trueblu-f2r we are talking about ANC corruption not Helen Zillie. Yes she needs to go but that will not stop ANC corruption. Corruption is part of the ANC DNA. THEY CAN'T HELP THEMSELFS DESPITE THE ZONDO COMMISSION.
Imagine what Cape Town would have looked like. Thank goodness ANC is out years ago 🙏🙌🙏
Yhoo imagine😳
It always tickles me when people say "on the brink" when speaking of the failed state in which we live! We are no longer on the brink - we are down the shitter! Get real!
Not the first time! Ancient Rome, a city then of over 2 million, was conquered by the Huns, sabotaged the water supply, and shrunk to some 60k inhabitants!
Love this putting people in of incompetence but nothing is changing and we are still keeping them there.😅😅😅
The GNU government has to get involved in the sad situation in Gauteng (Joburg and Pretoria)
Rand water once world class slowly being broken down, mismanaged riddled with corruption, all covering up on the bad maintenance and poorly managed projects.expertise emmigrating as it gets stressful and high risk.
BEE on top 😂😂😂
We are fucked
The World Class African City, totally broken because they got it for free!! 😂😂😂
It also show that it never was theirs...as claimed. Why would you destroy something that you worked to build up for the greater good? Same goes for the rest of the country😢
Evil can only corrupt and destroy what good forces have made or invented.
They....who the F are they? Are your parents siblings?
@@Lyndon-q4d they, your brothers and sisters
Always thought it is an oxymoron of note😂
Talking about it won't help..paying for it" won't work either..we deal with a crisis talked and warned about by PW Botha..He said everything they touch turns to decay.i quote " consume they can..produce never
Ian Smith the Prime Minister of Rhodesia then said that there'll come a day when the blacks will walk in their own shyt and think its normal...how true his words have come..
Excuse me .. That's the only action that will save SOUTH AFRICA .. PRAYER😮🙏
SA was always a praying Nation until the unbelievers took over ANC praying to ancestors and not THE GOD of Abraham Isaac and Jacob .. then cutting of the Apple of God Almighty's eye .. ISRAEL 😮🙏
"Return first, to Me and I will Heal your Land!"🙏🙏🙏
@@TheYodellingqueen... its called greed my dear.. nothing to do with religion.
You are talking about that satanic man who moved people from their own land that they were using before he and his evil satanic friends came to rape and murder them. How can you produce where you are not allowed to. In places like in the homelands where people could freely farm they did very well but of course you are not interested in that piece of information.
We have had no water since Sunday. Water came on today but intermittently. Then goes off. Now it is 9.30 pm no water. Haven't done washing for the whole week.
Amandla
Kader Asmal clearly did not have a grasp at all. Ooh it will bite them in the bum. The chickens are coming home to rooste. They are not racional these people. Power and arrogance far surpasses function and service delivery.
Kadre would have been a perfect human Iraqi shield like Winnie !
Well, the arrogance of so-called stalwarts like Asmal surely returned to bite the ANC, and all the accolades bestowed upon Asmal being a huge lie
Where is populist Panyaza lesufi? All he does is changing street names, apparently sandton drive is been debated 😢😢😢.
Hes useless, just like his uselss comrades
The Rand Water problem does not only affect Joburg. It affects the whole network, all the way to Secunda, Bethal and beyond in the West of Mpumalanga, on a regular basis. Intermittent potable water supply to the Sasol Secunda Plant - a National Key Point installation, and the supplier of much of the Inland fuel. The supply was interrupted to the whole area once every few months, now it is is almost daily. JoJo and similar must be making a killing with all the tanks being installed. Civil infrastructure takes decades to degrade. It also takes decades to restore. We are screwed, and unlike electricity, there is not much one can do about an alternative source.
Very recent report from DWS (September 2024) is that for Joburg, up to 45% of pumped water is not paid for, and just over 35% of water runs to waste. Both shocking stats. So, you over use the infrastructure to account for the leaks and then you don't get payment for it.
5:39 What a brilliant summary.
Where is Lesufi he must sort it out, your promises is hitting you hard. Come sort your mess out, it is past 100 days, and everything is worse, how disappointing for everybody in Gauteng! Come Lesufi sort out the problem with the water, sort out the problem it is urgent!! The. People need water, snap clap and give it urgent attention😮😮😮😮😮
Lesufi cant run a bath.😂😂😂
I doubt it whether Lesufi would be able to sort out the raisins from amongst a peanut / raisin mixed snack
Voters are too ignorant and should take responsibility. You get what you vote for. Surely your decaying city should speak for itself and yet you vote the same expecting something different.
I remember being taught in junior school in the mid 60s about the Losotha Water Highlands Project and it still has not reached its fruition with supplying the water needs of Guateng.
Voting doesnt help,look at what happend in Pretoria
Lesufi seems to think water is a national problem. Hes not in the least concerned that the ppl of Lesufi country will not have basic human rights like water. He did not put pressure on national gov to rectify it either. He therefore probably does not see a long career for hself with the prov.
That's the hard truth about the matter (the truth one has to avoid for the sake of such consensus is still possible, I think): the trouble started _under_ Mandela. Whatever his own personal practical contributions add up to with hindsight, he had ministers with all the confidence on Earth, but often lacking in matching ability.
It's the kind of thing that if the ordinary voter just faced up to enough to just see it's so, that could lead to changes in a direction in which there's at least some hope.
It's all good and well finally acknowledging the disastrous quality of the Zuma government, but it doesn't help imagining we can go back to the ways of "better times" under Mandela and Mubeki (Robert Gabriel Mubeki, I mean - for all his virtues). These "good times" didn't really exist. What we need is a completely new approach, not a reconstitution of a fictional ANC that "governed well", when really it didn't.
Remember how all the teachers got retrenched (up to a slight exaggeration)? That happened before the millenium. Remember how Eskom got rid of even technicians? Same thing. And senior managers with experience, too, replaced by a tenfold increase in the most senior posts, not all filled by people with even basic competence.
Remember the "grey man" story that was true for quite a lot of people? Too many years on the job to be able to move to a position of the same level in another organization, but with pension still quite a long way off, and future prospects of advancement cancelled. So be the "grey man" who does the actual work, keeps things running, while someone else gets the salary and gets good at doing lunch, and never learns how to actually run things. That was a long time ago. I think that phenomenon had passed by the time of Zuma, even?
The unexpected benefit of that time was that the country gained a lot of new businessmen with families that needed them to succeed, and the old "job for life" gone forever - not part of the ANC master plan, but it probably helped slow the decline. A bit of luck for the country as a whole - like the world economic high tide that floated everyone's boat, and made things look better than they really were was in some respects a bit of luck, too.
The point of this is that there isn't some "better ANC" we can go back to. Apart from that it's just history. That's how things worked out. Leave it there. Water under the bridge. All we need to make of it is to work from a realistic understanding of what went before (weighed as one of the options for _where to go next_ ).
We don't need to mothball training institutes forever again. We don't need to leave building new dams to the next administration again. We don't need to go turning over more farms making R30 million old-rands profit into R30 million loss makers. We just need to make sure we understand that there's no road backwards that leads to anywhere good. We need to move forward instead, and just make the best of what we have left after all this destruction.
Cities in the wrong place? Jozi is where it is because of mineral wealth. To profess cities on the coast do better, ignore the disastrous situation of us on the Hibiscus coast of KZN, a strip of country RWJ knows well. For years we have no sustained water and the problem has not been addressed with any urgency or competency
We moved out of home of 18 years because of continuous water & electricity outages. It broke our hearts.
One can see who took the accolades for the Lesotho highlands project, anc had very little input, they let rsa down, maintenance is nt mentioned in any manifesto , too busy with corruption
Squirrels priority is Squirrel and not rocking the ANC boat he is weak.
He doesn't run the ANC who does? Msyve Gwede I dont know but I dont think Vyril has power
Globalists run the ANC, Rama and the ANC are puppets...those who pay the piper calls the tune.
Why do these fools think joburg was maid to stay in For Ever? No. It was build kilometres awy from any water . Water had to pump from the dam too joburg.
This was during the gold rush.
No one is rushing for gold now.
Its water. There is none. So?
Joburg will collapse!
There is water. That’s why the Lesotho Highlands water scheme was put in place. Some cities in the desert survive because they have water infrastructure. Johannesburg had that too.
RW Johnson you wanted and pushed ANC to govern South Africa?
...Anc build nothing but destroyed everything
🌚
True
Was this man one of those that supported the anc before 94, as he was in the Helen Suzmann foundation?
ANC culture
The problem with you people is that you suffer from selective amnesia. CT has been having the same problem for years now and it happens there you lot choose to SEARCH for a reason why that it and never blame it on the DA. Fotshek man Foooootshek
@@kabelontobo303Cape Town works, Johannesburg does not!!! Joburg is a big toilet.
The begging and burning tribes are not that good at infrastructure stuff !
Why would they if they never had infrastructure. They are incompatible with reality😢 thats why it is so easy for globalists to capture SA and let them dismantle it for them. Its in their nature to divide and rule.
Yes Lusufie should make contack white afriform about the water problems
There was an appetite for desalination of sea water during Mbeki era. Japanese aid tried to help plug leaks in the 2000s
Because Jo'burg has such lovely beaches...
We had good growth during Mbeki years but then ANC got Super greedy and as they say the rest is history
So disappointing...
WE PREDICTED WATER SCARSITY IN GAUTENG 40 YEARS AGO
Spot on! If you are not self-sufficient in SA you are beholden to a to a bunch of criminals.
Will SOUTH AFRICA SURVIVE if JOHANNESBURG goes completely 😢
People and businesses will migrate.
People who can afford it are already leaving.. either going overseas or moving to Cape Town.
Johannesburg is finished.. Sandton is next.
Oranja will be one standing out whole of SA
Cape Town is currently Heaving. Everyone is moving here😣
Another city will benefit as business will move there.
Water, globally, cannot become "more scarce". Geographic distribution and water cycles can change (because of climate change), but overall volume remains constant.
You clearly do not understand the situation..
There is only so much water to go around.. the population is increasing year on year and nothing is being done about that.
We lose 50% of our water in Gauteng from old leaking pipes.. we pollute our rivers & dams with sewage. Gauteng will soon become uninhabitable within 10 years, the people will either die from poisoned water or they will have to leave.
The Rime of the Ancient Mariner will tell you differently.
_"Water, water everywhere, nor any drop to drink..."_
@@Jonathan_Strange "Rhyme", if we're going to quote literature.
@@wernerstapela4616 Okay that just demonstrated your ignorance (on two occasions). Google it.
@@wernerstapela4616 Alright, that just demonstrated your ignorance. Google it.
Alec, when will you & others with platforms start to publicly ask very direct questions to the ruling elite? You for example have been far too gentle on guys like Mashaba.
Their mismanagement & shameless arrogance must be exposed to the voting public.
Consumer awareness on using water more sparingly. it is an essential step forward, towards realizing that when you open the tap you become more aware of the resource coming out the tap. Some taps, for example your lever tap can waste a lot of water given it's design and the water pressure flowing through it. A concerted awareness of this problem by the end user will have a significant impact on water supply.
Have to chuckle at the shear amasement within the interview. Look beyond the borders of South Africa, there lies the clues.
Lool look thay have no IQ man this anc🤔
What IQ is DA? People rejected anc and da chose to return them to power in return for blue lights and are now part and parcel of the feeding frenzy. Your organisation agreed to a bloated cabinet and deputy ministers and agreed to not take part in future impeachment action of Phalaphala, Shut up now
Exactly true,it was a good thing to give more people service's,but they just cut the pie in smaller pieces and not making a bigger pie, no planning and using god given brain's.
Coming for your wife's pie
We never voted for a coalition
SA IS BEYOND REPAIRS..... TOO LATE TO ATTEMPT....
ONLY HIGHWAYS THRIVING TO ACCOMMODATE LUXARY VEHICLES TO ALLOW TRAVEL CITY TO CITY.. WHO KNOWS WHO PAYS FOR THE CARS AND PETROL.. FAST FOODS SUCH AS KFC NO2.. AND LIQUOR STORES.. WILL FLORISH.
First off great journalism.
Secondly, I thnk Joburg is too big to fail and eventually, potentially at the last possible minute, it will turn around through the influence of the many powerful stakeholders in the city, a city that represents about a third of South Africa's economic output.
I agree will not fail. Water tankers will save us.
As a Capetonian...I really hope so ! 🙏
@@davidkotze4140
Why do you hope so?
Most Cape Townians are gleefully happy when they hear of Joburg's woes. It provides them with a sense of feeling better that they live in CPT and not in JHB. It's their "I told you so" moment when they hear about Jozi's woes.
So I'm genuinely interested in your motivations why you hope so.
Anc incompetent
Can RW Johnson retire already… 😮
No! With age, wisdom. Surely an old gentleman is not a treat to you
How rude !
He retired long time, he just come to share his knowledge because we need it.
RSA almost finished