The green one is that MB O303 13HD, the standard European deck height, 13m long with is like our 40 footers. But the red one is an odd one. Coach builders in Europe back then would buy frames and build up their own body. It has a bit of Drogmueller. Those that this inclined floor front to back and various styles of inclined windows, some from the front, all the way to the back. Those were the Comet models, E series (like an E330). But the since Mercedes ships their frames with the bumper, grill, headlights, tailllights (which are from an S class W116, and later the W126). The red one does have a lot of Neoplan Cityliner in it too. So, either the manufacturer of the model kitbashed a bus, and just made it a random mix of elements, OR, which may be equally likely is that its a small coach builder that actually made that thing. And from what Ive seen, with the mixing of parts, to me would be more something Greek. Sarakakis might have a model (they made A LOT of buses models that were prototypes they sold off as one off models). Ive tried documenting the Greek coach makers and its near impossible. Other than Elvo (written more like an EABO) the rest were so small they would make two or three buses yearly, each wildly different. At one point they had 40.000 coach building companies in one year! So tracking them down is impossible, since most were scrapped, the companies gone, records gone. All that might pop up is a photo, where I struggle to do the forensics of figuring out what in the heck it was! lol Thanks for the shoutout. Whenever I do a video, Ill give you a shoutout too.
The green one is that MB O303 13HD, the standard European deck height, 13m long with is like our 40 footers. But the red one is an odd one.
Coach builders in Europe back then would buy frames and build up their own body. It has a bit of Drogmueller. Those that this inclined floor front to back and various styles of inclined windows, some from the front, all the way to the back. Those were the Comet models, E series (like an E330). But the since Mercedes ships their frames with the bumper, grill, headlights, tailllights (which are from an S class W116, and later the W126).
The red one does have a lot of Neoplan Cityliner in it too. So, either the manufacturer of the model kitbashed a bus, and just made it a random mix of elements, OR, which may be equally likely is that its a small coach builder that actually made that thing. And from what Ive seen, with the mixing of parts, to me would be more something Greek. Sarakakis might have a model (they made A LOT of buses models that were prototypes they sold off as one off models). Ive tried documenting the Greek coach makers and its near impossible. Other than Elvo (written more like an EABO) the rest were so small they would make two or three buses yearly, each wildly different. At one point they had 40.000 coach building companies in one year! So tracking them down is impossible, since most were scrapped, the companies gone, records gone. All that might pop up is a photo, where I struggle to do the forensics of figuring out what in the heck it was! lol
Thanks for the shoutout. Whenever I do a video, Ill give you a shoutout too.
Man! You are an encyclopedia on European built buses!
@@T-JoesModelBusesandMore1210 LOL. Yeah. I did learn a lot about them from my time there.