Cereal Rye Food Plots For Deer Hunting
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2020
- Looking for a cheap food plot seed that practically grows anywhere? Is your previously planted food plot looking pretty sad right before the season opens? Are you looking to get into no-till food plotting and need a great winter cover crop? Have poor soils that you're trying to improve?
Look no further than Cereal Rye Grain!
Although the nutritional value of cereal rye isn't as high as other food plot varieties, it is by far the most versatile seed for deer hunting plots. In this video we discuss why you might want to start considering cereal rye for your deer hunting food plots!
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Over-seeding rye into a plot that is emerging is fine, but casting it on the top of bare soil risks loss due to birds, squirrels and drought. I can't drill; so, I need to get that rye covered with dirt to insure some growth. However, after a drag to cover the rye, I'll have to broadcast the clover, then cultipack.
Another very helpful video! Thanks again.
Very welcome :) Thanks for watching
Great video and information, I just put out 150 lbs out last week, it’s already 4 “ inches
Thanks Mike! Your deer will be thanking you. The stuff grows fast and just about anywhere! I always buy a few hundred pounds as “just in case” seeds and find places to throw it out each year.
You're a good man and make good videos. 👍 planted northwoods whitetails sweer feast in 5 plots this year with one failure. Unsure why. But cant have failure going into fall so planting rye and tillage radish this weekend there(labor day) to salvage it. Good luck this season.
Thank you Adam! I've had great luck with John's seeds, he does a great job and always performs germ tests so I'm not sure why the 1 plot failed. I have failures too but most of the time I chalk it up to something I did wrong or the weather not cooperating, rarely the seed itself. We're so dependent on the darn weather!
Good luck this season man!
Great info, Thanks
Thanks Chris!
Whitetail habitat solutions has got a lot of great information on cereal rye as well thanks for the video
You’re welcome! And I agree. He puts out a lot of great information!
Great job. I just picked up 180 acres in KY and needed a food plot fast. Sprayed twice and spread cereal rye.
Wa-lag... we got a food plot.
Boom! That should draw them in! Definitely the best last minute seed. And depending on what your future plans for that plot, you could frost seed perennial clover into the rye and you’d have a pretty weed free clover plot after you terminate the rye.
Awesome that you’re in sw michigan . We bought land here and are putting in plots in the spring.
Nice!! That was the first thing we implemented on this property when we bought it as well. One thing I would also recommend, not habitat related, is talking to your neighbors and see what their hunting goals are and sharing yours as well. Depending on the size of your parcel, having neighbors with similar goals will help keep the younger bucks alive as the young bucks will wander around during daylight much more than their older brothers.
@@whitetailevolution so yea, the property across my road is owned by some great folks and they are habitat improvers. He only hunts a couple days a year here and will only shoot a trophy buck. The other parcel around me is 160 acres and that was just purchased by some fellas that will only shoot 8’s and up. On the other side its leased year to year to different hunters.
That’s a great neighborhood to be a part of! You guys will love having being close to hunters with similar mindsets.
Here in Alabama I plant oats, clover, brassicas or whatever early on. Then I come back a few weeks later and spread cereal rye. I find that the plants that need more growth time to establish do well and then the rye gives them a new tender crop of rye.
That's a great strategy Jeremy! We have a very similar approach!
Great video and info on rye! Few questions I've had on rye you can probably help me with.
If broadcasting into brassica around mid to late September to add tonnage how many pounds per acre do you recommend?
If you have a standing cover crop of rye around 5ft tall can you mow that in early September to promote new tender growth or will it kill the rye at that late stage?? Thanks in advance. Glad i iust stumbled across your channel.
Q: due to heavy/persistent rains, I haven't been able to work my plots let alone plant anything thus far. Clover/chicory is going into half of each plot- late! What are you recommending for the seeding rate on rye, when mixing with the clover for that early Aug planting?
My cereal rye has been greening. Up for 10 days now 25 miles north of oscoda. I believe that everyone should broadcast 50lbs min of rye every labor day on every acre.
50lbs minimum is right! Couldn’t agree more! Great root system, suppresses weeds, tons of organic matter when terminated and winter food for the deer! Cereal rye is solid all around.
The turkeys might even start showing up with those fresh green shoots coming up 🦃
Two questions for you. Have you ever broadcast rye into a existing clover plot and have you had success with that? Second with a clover plot how late into the year does that seem to be attractive once it’s established?
Absolutely! We broadcast both our fall blends and our cereal rye into our clover plots. Seed the fall plots in early August, then mow the clover to the ground right before a rain. Some years it does better than others, all depends on moisture. The rye goes down labor day weekend. We just seed it right into the clover / fall plot stand. Nothing special after, just seed before a rain. In the spring the rye will come back in full force and we terminate it around memorial day. We just Mow the rye to terminate. I think I have a video showing the rye in late spring. Check out the video "How To Plant Clover Food Plots" and jump to 15:40 in that video, there's a couple clips the rye about shoulder height.
With my clover plot I have lots of action up to the end of bow season. Maybe a little into muzzle loader. That's what brought me to this video on rye bc i want somthing to keep them coming into rifle. I'm in Northern NY and there is 5-8 deer in the plot morning and night all growing season its only about half an acre and by muzzle its pretty sparse. I'm going to expand my plot and include rye this year
Nice vid and info , how much #rye , should be put on smaller 1/4 acre or smaller plots?
Thanks Mike! I make it easy on myself and just put down 100lbs of rye per acre. So for a 1/4 acre plot I would put down 25 pounds or half of the 50 pound bag.
Whats your thoughts on planting cereal rye by itself? We have an area that doesnt grow brassicas too well, so my attention turned to rye. Looking to create a nice plot for my dad to hunt over for October and November here in Michigan and I keep hearing about cereal rye. This area is partially sun, partially shaded. Would a rye-only plot be a good one you think for bow season and gun season? Thanks!
Very good video, lots of info. I do have a question that wasn’t covered. What about the biggest concern, attractiveness? As you know deer prefer some plants over others, they will walk past radishes and chicory to get to peas. Even though cereal grains may grow anywhere and look pretty, and be fool proof, if deer don’t beat a path to it, it’s a waste of time. Just wondering what results you have had with it.
That's a great question and you're absolutely right. Some crops are more attractive than others. I personally feel that rye is one of the more least attractive / least nutritious in the food plot world. Now that doesn't mean it's not attractive and very important. Rye continues to grow well into the low 30s when other crops have gone dormant, giving a food source when there might not have been one. It also grows in low PH soils / sandy soils (fool proof like you said) and this gives guys a great option if they don't have the best dirt. I also love the amount of biomass it produces in the spring and the options it gives you for starting or continuing a no till program.
Overall I would say I am pleased with the amount of deer use I have gotten from adding rye to compliment our food plots. The deer use the plots on a regular basis and I like to think that the rye is one of the reasons. Not the only reason, but one of them depending on what they're in the mood for.
But to really know if the rye makes any difference in attractiveness I'd probably need throw it on one side but not the other and monitor the activity.
@@whitetailevolution yes I agree it definitely has its place in the food plot world. Thank you again for the insight and sharing your knowledge. 👍
what type of fertilizer should i use for it?
I lke to see your son helping you out . 1st new to rye was going to mix oats with it , will rye kill it and and 2nd Cereal Rye vs winter wheat what is best ?
You can plant rye and oats together, the rye should not kill the oats.
Cereal rye is more tolerant of poor soil than winter wheat and cereal rye continues to grow in colder temperatures. They are both great cover crops though. I tend to use cereal rye every year because of the reasons I just listed and because of the amount of biomass Rye puts on the following spring. When it terminate the rye, all of that biomass feeds / builds my soil.
I want to plant cereal rye this year. Where is the cheapest place to purchase? And are there local places to purchase at cheaper prices? thanks. I'm in Central Kentucky, by the way. Keep the great videos coming. Great info!!!
I would contact your local farmers elevator, where your farmers buy their seeds. They’ll have it the cheapest there. I’d buy at least 100lbs per acre.
And thank you!!
@@whitetailevolution Thanks so much!
I just kept checking Craigslist until I found a farmer trying to get rid of their leftovers
I’m also in S/W Michigan. I don’t plant Rye till the holiday weekend, but even with that planting it seems to get really tall by the hunting season and the deer won’t touch it. I follow up with my last application in the last weekend of sept. My question is this: Do you ever mow the standing rye so it has new fresh growth for the deer??
I absolutely agree with that. The years that we need more rye for one reason or another, I’m putting it down throughout September right up to the start of October. Last year was one of those years on this property. I think the the last round of 100lbs / acre we put down on September 22nd. They were in there most of the season and throughout the winter when the snow would melt. To answer your second question, you can definitely mow rye grain to get new tender growth. I’ve never done it but you could. The deer here don’t respond well to vehicles so I wouldn’t want to push them away so close to the season opener.
would cereal rye be better for summer than buckwheat?
Great video! Fellow michigander here....What are your thoughts on me using rye as a cover crop/precursor to switchgrass!? Ideally i would like to take advantage of frost seeding switchgrass after season so wondering if i would have to kill off the rye at that point or if it would naturally die off allowing me to just broadcast switchgrass seed over the area? If i did have to kill it off at the end of hunting season, any suggestions? Thanks for your time and your video!
Hey Anthony! I think your best bet with frost seeding switchgrass is to spread it on bare ground. Switchgrass cannot outcompete much when it's young. Rye comes back really thick in the spring and I'm afraid your switch would have a hard time making it's way to the dirt. If it does, the rye would outcompete it and the switch would die. Rye also has allopathic properties that stop other plants from growing, this also could affect the switchgrass. Cereal rye is a great weed suppressor, but unfortunately I think it would also suppress your switchgrass..
If I was going to plant something as a precursor to frost seeding switchgrass with would probably be soybeans. You'd have a good fall plot and in the spring you're left with bare ground ready to frost seed. Switchgrass seed is on the more expensive side. I'd do everything you can to get a great weed free seed bed before your initial planting.
@@whitetailevolution Thanks for the quick reply! I appreciate the insight, ill look more into the soybean idea. Did alot of research and still end up with plenty of unanswered questions so thanks again! Liked and subscribed for future videos!
Fall planted rye will survive to spring but must be spray killed in early May so it doesn’t shade out the switch which germinates in June.
What number do you set you broadcaster to when planting the rye?
I put down so much that I just open the gate as wide as it will go. Spread the bag and reload.
Is it necessary to spray a field with herbicides before plating cereal rye or can I just spread the seed into the field as is? I just have native grasses/plants/weeds that I bush hog a couple times a year, nothing has ever been planted and never been sprayed with herbicides. Can I just throw the cereal rye seed out or should it be sprayed with herbicides first? Thanks
I would spray. Depending on what you're seeding into, the grass or thatch might be too thick for your rye. Mow everything down a few weeks prior, come back to spray the plot, let the herbicide dry, seed the rye. Or if you have to do it all in one day, spray everything, let it dry, then seed. But honestly I have never tried to just seed into standing vegetation and walk away so I cannot say for sure.. I'm sure some would do fine but you'd have greater success if you tried to control the weeds / grass.
Quick question, I have new 40 acre property of mostly hardwood timber and I’m establishing some new food plots. I’m planning this month (August) to plant mixed rye grain with clover on those plots. In spring time, I will have to terminate the rye grain? If I crimp the rye and spray with glyphosate, will this kill the clover?
Sorry, forgot to mention that I’m in northern Michigan.
That's a great question and yes, you will run the risk of killing the clover. The mat of rye might offer some protection and sometimes clover can be resistant to glyphosate as long as the mix is not too strong but I would not recommend that if you are trying to keep the clover. If the goal is to have a clover plot next year I would plant the clover in August, rye in early September then next spring around memorial day, mow down the rye as it start to develop seed heads. This will kill the rye and you'll be left with a clover plot. After that it's just maintenance on that clover plot with mowing or spraying selective herbicides. Hope that answers your question!
Do you allow winter rye to seed prior to rolling or crimping in the spring or do u broadcast buckwheat into your rye prior to it seeding and then roll? I think I know the answer I just want some confirmation from an experienced hand
I terminate the rye prior to the crop going to seed. This will result in less volunteer rye in my summer plot. Not the end of the world if you let it go to seed but I tend to terminate the crop prior to it going to seed. So for buckwheat, I would seed into the standing rye, roll / crimp, follow with an application of glyphosate.
@@whitetailevolution thanks buddy, I very much appreciate your response
What setting do you have your Earthway at for Rye?
Honestly for cereal rye I just open it up as far as it can go and crank it. Because you’re normally putting down multiple 50# bags on the same plot I try to get it out as fast as I can.. my son gets a bucket to throw out and sometimes just dumps it all in a pile haha.
Great video. I put out 100 pounds during a good rain on September 28. I have not noticed any seed sprouting. I’m starting to think I got some old seed. I even put some seed close to the road and watered. Nothing! I was really excited to get it down when I did. From what I’m reading it should’ve germinated in 7 days. Do you think it’s to late to put more seed down? I live in Kentucky.
Yeah you should have definitely noticed germination by now. I would put more down if I was you just in case. Cereal Rye will germinate into the low 40s so you’ll be fine in Kentucky. We can get away with planting in early to mid October here in Michigan so you will definitely be ok. The deer prefer it more when it’s young anyways so new young growth would be more attractive.
Thanks I just picked some up. I’m out of town right now but this store just got a pallet of cereal rye in yesterday. I would’ve loved to be home today getting it on the ground, we’re getting some much need rain from Delta right now.
Seed is seed, get some buddy's go to your feed store buy the seed by the bag and split your seed up, alot cheaper, and they have alot of info
Totally agree. I get mine from the local farmers elevator. I'll get some "buck on the bag" seed every now and then as gifts and they work well but not much better than the cheap seed down the road.
I bought 6 bushels from a farmer for $60. I don't have enough dirt for that much at my place but figured what the heck..
do you add milk first or after for your cereal rye? Im more of milk first add the amount cereal you want afterwards.
Ha we’re old school 😎 just add water
I’m in ky. Where are you buying your cereal rye. Thanks
I buy my rye from the local grain mill. A lot of feed and seed stores will have it as well.
If these will grow anywhere, will they eliminate male pattern baldness? Asking for a friend... 🙄
Ha! Just need good seed to soil contact and a little moisture 😉
do u think its bad to plant on top of Austrian Peas
No that wouldn't be a bad idea at all. A lot of people plant the two together. Great companion crops!
Good question, I was wondering that too
is cereal rye and plain grass rye the same thing?
NO!!!
This is just funny. Everybody says "plant rye!..its a miracle"
I planted rye, and the deer walk right over it to my field grass to graze. They hardly ever touch it!
A complete fail to.get the deer where.i wanted.them.
I'll be interested to see if they graze it when they are starving later this winter.
It.is NOT what everyone says it is. The deer here skipping right.over.it.
I find it hard to imagine the deer would pass up cereal rye or any grain to feed on grass.. Deer rarely eat grass but you might've had something else within that grass that they liked! Try to figure out what it is and plant more of it.
@@whitetailevolution that could be...clover maybe. I'm gonna put out a time lapse camera to see.
Look for dandelion plants..had deer in the yard ,looked like grazing cattle..only thing there to eat besides lawn grass ,we're dandelion plants..first thought clover,but none around..so there's gotta be a seasonal plant growing nearby the deer prefer..