A couple other things of note about Drivelogic; the difference in shift speed is really only apparent when you're getting after it. If you're just pootling around in traffic at low speed, it will still shift at a speed that makes sense relative to the throttle input. Secondly, it also dictates what gear it uses when in automatic mode. In D1 mode it may go as high as 5th gear at 30-some mph, whereas D3 will hold 2nd and just barely break into 3rd when you hit 31-32 mph. And uh.... 2nd gear at 30mph and 2500-some rpm (turbos locked and loaded, right on the edge of boost city) is a recipe for disaster if you're not ready for it. Speaking from experience lol
Interesting. I had an e88 135 with DCT and it had a park button and creeped like an auto, so a lot of this seems to be programming specific to the F80. Great channel btw!
I have this habbit of throwing it in neutral before shutting my m4 off. So I start /drive gear then power off. Start button 2x. Good to know! Thanks B!
I have been driving an m2 for a year now and you have still thought me something new :D I did not know it went straight to park if you shut car off in drive. I've been stopping in neutral and pressing the start/stop button twice every time.
Partly because the owner'a manual is confusing on this issue. However, I believe even straight from Drive or Reverse, you're supposed to press the Stop button twice to shut down all accessories. Or at least that's what I've been told. I press the button twice everytime on my M2. Just take your foot off the brake on the second press. lol
Great vids, Brian! Just recently bought a 2015 M4 and have learned a ton about BMWs in general from you, and now feel way more comfortable with the DCT! Definitely something to get used to. Thanks man, keep it up!
@@jeremypatino5907just bought a 2017 M4 competition and it’s definitely something to get use to. Still kinda confused on the shifting when I hit the gas
Hi. There is another useful feature of a M DCT. If you're driving in a manual mode and you floor the throttle, the gearbox will not down shift automatically. Instead it waits until you pull the down shift paddle under the steering wheel and then it shifts into the best gear possible (even 3 - 4 gears lower).
Haha I wish I saw this video earlier. I got an M4CS two months ago and every time I've accidentally turned the car off in neutral I start the car back up to put it in gear to turn it off LOL. Appreciate you making my life easier.
I know this vid is old, but i got an f80, i have a gearbox problem, and my fuel is going crazy i would spend about £20 (about $25) within 2 hours of driving in sport (not ragging it or flooring every 2 seconds) please lmk why. I also get around 100 miles half tank and 240-250 miles full tank MAX
Some DCT brands DO have the Parking selector for the gear lever, like Volkswagen, Audi, and in general the VAG group. Also they use to have the parking brake.
Thank you for the vid. I just got a F80 not long ago and it got jerky on me a few times when I give it to much gas. Im worried I’m going to brake something from when it happens. Do you know if I am damaging the engine when that happens ? Any pointers on better use of the low speed assistant and how to get on the throttle better would be much appreciated to
Damn, starting from stop was exactly what I was doing, just press the gas like on normal automatic and he would lunch me so fast I hated it. Ty man, I guess life is there to learn something every day
I’m actually familiar with the Ms transmission, i think they are very interesting. When I park these cars, I just leave them in neutral, and pull the parking brake. The same with manuals 👍🏿 Can’t wait to get a M4!! I want some track time! Drove both, and they both are special. Especially those engine noises, very unique!
Hey, I have a question, Im looking to buy a M4 with DCT but in my country, there are alot of hills. What happens if im standing still and release the break while upwards a mountain? Will the car roll back? Or is there an anti roll back feature on the car?
Hey Bryan, great video as always! Learned some new stuff. I had a request: could you do a video on the different types of bmw differentials and maybe even a video on switching a F30 to a LSD?
Hi, can you tell us, if you are in D1 and you are slowing down...from 50 to 30 let's say...can we put in N in order to accelerate to make noise while running ? and then in D1 back ? Thanks.
For longevity it’s better to go in the 2nd or 3rd setting after just a bit of temp in the transmission. Reason for this is the clutch packs will last longer when they actually have clamping pressure and it’s not trying to slip and be super smooth
Uh ... in the USA, 2011- 2013 135i & 135is were available with DCT as was the 2011 - 2013 335is, and Gertrude, they do have a Park setting in the shift pattern. These DCT do creep slightly at idle with no brake. E80/82/83 M3, F10 M5 & F12/13 F06 M6 had DCT also. Oh well, at you covered the F80/82/83.
I'm about to get an F80 soon and never driven an automatic car before, and definitly never a dct. So thanks for this video, so I don't have to look clueless
DCT should never has auto-rolling function due to its design (to make it possibile clutches are made slither one against the other and it causes premature wearing) although some brands do it btw.
I have a 2013 335is with dct and the first thing I said with no parking break my car has a button I hit ontopnof the shifter knob itself says P I hit it and puts it in parking is this only for the dct for the M3 isn’t it the 7 speed dct same as the 335is?
Kies Motorsports, when you swapped to the carbon fiber shift surround trim, did you notice the drive logic button being a less tactile and shallow than the stock trim? It's the same button but I found when I switched mine, it was different.
lol every time i turned the car off in neutral(accidentally ) I would start it back up, put it in drive, the turn it back off. Didn't know you could just push the button again
Hey bro. Could you please make a same video but on the BMW M8 Competition Coupe? Its M gear stick a bit different than your M3 gear stick. I'm waiting for that video. Thanks.
Brian I plan to start changing the oil myself my local automotive store is having a sale on ramps a Jack kit set and a 1/4 and 1/2 inch torque wrench with adjustable settings but they are not electric can I do the job with these items I'm on a budget but if you think that this is alright to start of with please let me know and also can I drain my oil properly if the car is on ramps only on the front.
I watched this video a long time ago and I drove my first M4 dct the other day and remembered what you said about the missing park option! Your embarrassment made sure that I did the right thing! Thank you very much sir! And what an awesome driving machine that is!
Yeah nobody told me when I got my m2 comp . I drove an hour and thirty minutes back to my county and had to figure it out . It definitely made me feel a little silly.
Sometimes when I'm in D and accelerate with over 50% throttle (but not full kickdown) the transmission will remain in 5th until I slow down enough to engage anti stall protection, at the next junction for example. I usually flip the paddles up to 7th and then back to D. Anyone else had this issue with DCT? Other than that I absolutely love it though.
does this DCT gearbox the keep gear system ? i mean can hold the car in a gear just like manual gearbox? like c63 hold the car in first or second gear for drifting or burnout? plz answer
Love this man i need one I live in Corning NY would you be able to help me with any upgrades I'd be interested in doing. I'd drive to you of course. I'm talking turbos etc I can handle basically everything else
A couple other things of note about Drivelogic; the difference in shift speed is really only apparent when you're getting after it. If you're just pootling around in traffic at low speed, it will still shift at a speed that makes sense relative to the throttle input. Secondly, it also dictates what gear it uses when in automatic mode. In D1 mode it may go as high as 5th gear at 30-some mph, whereas D3 will hold 2nd and just barely break into 3rd when you hit 31-32 mph. And uh.... 2nd gear at 30mph and 2500-some rpm (turbos locked and loaded, right on the edge of boost city) is a recipe for disaster if you're not ready for it. Speaking from experience lol
Great tips. When coming from a manual to the DCT you may have to fight the urge to lift the throttle between upshifts.
Just buy an F80
you wont regret it
I didnt :)
I couldn't agree more, I have a F83 and it's the best car I've ever owned in 30 years of driving.
Sure, my brain says yes but my wallet - no...
I bought an e92 m3
@@Motorsports_3 best bmw ever with that natural aspirated v8 with hydraulic steering and not electric!!! A true enthusiast car
@@Motorsports_3 .
Thanks for this tutorial!! First time DST driver; definitely frustrated at the traffic lights until watching this. 2015 M4 vert
Interesting. I had an e88 135 with DCT and it had a park button and creeped like an auto, so a lot of this seems to be programming specific to the F80. Great channel btw!
I have this habbit of throwing it in neutral before shutting my m4 off. So I start /drive gear then power off. Start button 2x. Good to know! Thanks B!
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great video, in the next video switch your auto to a DCT lol, side note a video on doing a transmission oil change on the automatics
They gotta change the wheels on that f80
How to switch the dct to sport driving mode?
3:24 By pressing the switch on left side transmission, second from top.
Wait wait wait... You press the button to pull the ebrake up? Don't you just pull it. 🤔
Jeansox it’s to put the car in park you turn it off and it goes to park of your in drive it still has a traditional ebrake
DCT transmissions are stupid bmw already have a great automatic transmission
I’ve own both, DCT is a lot more fun than automatic, but less fun than manual
The switch is upon us guys, he's dropping hints
I have been driving an m2 for a year now and you have still thought me something new :D I did not know it went straight to park if you shut car off in drive. I've been stopping in neutral and pressing the start/stop button twice every time.
Same!!!
Partly because the owner'a manual is confusing on this issue. However, I believe even straight from Drive or Reverse, you're supposed to press the Stop button twice to shut down all accessories. Or at least that's what I've been told. I press the button twice everytime on my M2. Just take your foot off the brake on the second press. lol
Brian, I think it may be time for you to make the switch...
1:17 “ k now you can see that D” 😂
Just bought an F80 and it’s such a learning curve. Super helpful!
Been driving an x5m for two years and I've always thought that drive logic button was a broken shade button lmaoooo
Great vids, Brian! Just recently bought a 2015 M4 and have learned a ton about BMWs in general from you, and now feel way more comfortable with the DCT! Definitely something to get used to. Thanks man, keep it up!
How is your m4 holding up I just bought a 2015 m4
@@jeremypatino5907just bought a 2017 M4 competition and it’s definitely something to get use to. Still kinda confused on the shifting when I hit the gas
some DCTs also start rolling as soon as you release the foot from the brake, it depends on manufacturer.
Hi. There is another useful feature of a M DCT. If you're driving in a manual mode and you floor the throttle, the gearbox will not down shift automatically. Instead it waits until you pull the down shift paddle under the steering wheel and then it shifts into the best gear possible (even 3 - 4 gears lower).
I love you 😍 you answered all my questions ✅❤️ I was lost 🙈😭 thanks 🙏 🤓 new subscriber
On test drive of my M4 i had to google how to put it in park.
Haha I wish I saw this video earlier. I got an M4CS two months ago and every time I've accidentally turned the car off in neutral I start the car back up to put it in gear to turn it off LOL. Appreciate you making my life easier.
Guilty of doing the same with my F87 lol, just learned something new in 2023 🙂
Wait can you explain the “Low speed assist?” So I would just tap the gas? Or feather on it?
Just tap it, it will starting creepin. Tap it some more if necessary like at a stop and go type of traffic situation.
I know this vid is old, but i got an f80, i have a gearbox problem, and my fuel is going crazy i would spend about £20 (about $25) within 2 hours of driving in sport (not ragging it or flooring every 2 seconds) please lmk why. I also get around 100 miles half tank and 240-250 miles full tank MAX
Thought you had an upgrade for a second there.
Didn't know about any of these things.
Some DCT brands DO have the Parking selector for the gear lever, like Volkswagen, Audi, and in general the VAG group. Also they use to have the parking brake.
Thank you for the vid. I just got a F80 not long ago and it got jerky on me a few times when I give it to much gas. Im worried I’m going to brake something from when it happens. Do you know if I am damaging the engine when that happens ? Any pointers on better use of the low speed assistant and how to get on the throttle better would be much appreciated to
Alright, thanks! Now I just need an F80
Whatsup with the first gear being jerky? I cant get used to it lmao. Someone on fb posted about a gts gearbox flash fix? You know anything about that?
Damn, starting from stop was exactly what I was doing, just press the gas like on normal automatic and he would lunch me so fast I hated it. Ty man, I guess life is there to learn something every day
Am I right in thinking you should be off the gas when you downshift? Think I heard somewhere it's kinder to the box?
What does it look like on a road with an incline? Does it roll down when I take my foot off the brake or does it have a starting aid?
Drove my buddies F80 for the first time last night, had to ask Google how to put that bitch into P haha
Every dct car has the gas tapping assistance... don't give the credit to bmw engineers...
I’m actually familiar with the Ms transmission, i think they are very interesting. When I park these cars, I just leave them in neutral, and pull the parking brake. The same with manuals 👍🏿 Can’t wait to get a M4!! I want some track time! Drove both, and they both are special. Especially those engine noises, very unique!
Just purchased M6 F06, thanks for the video... It all makes sense now 😀
What if I come to a stop but want to keep the engine running? How do I put it in P in that case? Thanks!
What should I do if I just want to jump out my car quickly without turn off the car?
Just do yourself a favor and buy a E92. Or a F10.
I just got my f80 lol so now i just have to learn on how to drive it properly at time its jerky
Do you have to activate low speed assist every time you stop like at a stop light or stop sign??
Been saving up for a m4 for a bit & sold my n54. I like DCT but im definitely getting a manual 😬
goochslayer m4 is designed with dct in mind. It’s the better choice
@@BigBoss-ps6vk love my manuals but DCT just seems like the future and look super fun to drive.
Very educative,my first time in an M3 competition was blissful.
I'm thinking about test driving a couple of these soon. I don't want to feel like an idiot 😀
i did not know the tap feature i will try it on the test drive i have in a few days
Hey, I have a question, Im looking to buy a M4 with DCT but in my country, there are alot of hills.
What happens if im standing still and release the break while upwards a mountain?
Will the car roll back?
Or is there an anti roll back feature on the car?
it will roll back, but you just have to tap the throttle lightly to enable the low speed assist and youll be fine.
how are you getting 341miles in a full tank?
It took me a good minute to figure this thing out when I test drove the M4 for the first time. Even the salesman was a little confused 😂😂😂
lol, it happens!
Is this what Sean McVay does in his free time?
How do you park the car and keep engine running?
Hey Bryan, great video as always! Learned some new stuff. I had a request: could you do a video on the different types of bmw differentials and maybe even a video on switching a F30 to a LSD?
You get used to it but it’s a bit annoying daily
About to buy an M3 competition and this was extremely useful. Never driven an auto so this was invaluable, many thanks
Bryan, I agree with the comment section. Time to go f80 M3 dct... for the channel of course
I have a F06 M6 Gran Coupe, which is a DCT M car by all mean, but it comes with a parking button :p
The new M3 doesn’t have a dual clutch transmission.
How to accelerate from 0-60 fast without jerking?
Launch control
I just now am finding out about the DCT after almost buying an F82 😂😂 seems like a pain in the ass I'm glad I went for the G82 in the end 😂
Hi, can you tell us, if you are in D1 and you are slowing down...from 50 to 30 let's say...can we put in N in order to accelerate to make noise while running ? and then in D1 back ? Thanks.
does anyone know what the longevity on the transmission is like depending on what setting you keep your transmission in?
For longevity it’s better to go in the 2nd or 3rd setting after just a bit of temp in the transmission. Reason for this is the clutch packs will last longer when they actually have clamping pressure and it’s not trying to slip and be super smooth
lol when you make the switch i’ll buy the F30 ;)
Awesome video... very easy to follow but also very informative 😁😁 now let me call my Buddy with an M3... 😅😅
Uh ... in the USA, 2011- 2013 135i & 135is were available with DCT as was the 2011 - 2013 335is, and Gertrude, they do have a Park setting in the shift pattern.
These DCT do creep slightly at idle with no brake.
E80/82/83 M3, F10 M5 & F12/13 F06 M6 had DCT also.
Oh well, at you covered the F80/82/83.
Just bought an F82 today, wish I’d watched this first. I was perplexed 😂😂 It became intuitive after a bit of mild panic
So the manual car looks like more simple
Either manual, or dct/pdk. I'm never getting a slushmatic XD
I'm about to get an F80 soon and never driven an automatic car before, and definitly never a dct. So thanks for this video, so I don't have to look clueless
That's why I leave those c63s for dust lol
DCT should never has auto-rolling function due to its design (to make it possibile clutches are made slither one against the other and it causes premature wearing) although some brands do it btw.
I have a 2013 335is with dct and the first thing I said with no parking break my car has a button I hit ontopnof the shifter knob itself says P I hit it and puts it in parking is this only for the dct for the M3 isn’t it the 7 speed dct same as the 335is?
This was a great video explaining this, I just got a BMW X5 M I was so lost thank you the info. I do see the auto H what is that?
Driving up a hill pose a challenge?
I'll probably never drive, much less own an F80 M3 BMW but I gave a like due to the great information that was provided here.
Kies Motorsports, when you swapped to the carbon fiber shift surround trim, did you notice the drive logic button being a less tactile and shallow than the stock trim? It's the same button but I found when I switched mine, it was different.
lol every time i turned the car off in neutral(accidentally ) I would start it back up, put it in drive, the turn it back off. Didn't know you could just push the button again
my DSG GTI is the same lol
there is one more nice feature in this car: If you are on a hill turn turn on the engine, the M will not roll backwards, just after 3 Seconds...
If you just turn off the regular automatic F11 530d my father drives in gear, It also goes to park.....
Hey bro. Could you please make a same video but on the BMW M8 Competition Coupe? Its M gear stick a bit different than your M3 gear stick. I'm waiting for that video. Thanks.
Brian I plan to start changing the oil myself my local automotive store is having a sale on ramps a Jack kit set and a 1/4 and 1/2 inch torque wrench with adjustable settings but they are not electric can I do the job with these items I'm on a budget but if you think that this is alright to start of with please let me know and also can I drain my oil properly if the car is on ramps only on the front.
owned my M4 Comp for 3 weeks now and I hadn't figured out point 2 properly yet! haha. Thank you!!
My M2 DCT goes to P when I turn the car off in gear. No need to pull the handbreak.
I watched this video a long time ago and I drove my first M4 dct the other day and remembered what you said about the missing park option! Your embarrassment made sure that I did the right thing! Thank you very much sir! And what an awesome driving machine that is!
Great video man thanks 🙏
Yeah nobody told me when I got my m2 comp . I drove an hour and thirty minutes back to my county and had to figure it out . It definitely made me feel a little silly.
I did the exact same thing with the looking for P in my F80 on the first drive
Nice video, but DCT transmission do not have torque converters.
Sometimes when I'm in D and accelerate with over 50% throttle (but not full kickdown) the transmission will remain in 5th until I slow down enough to engage anti stall protection, at the next junction for example. I usually flip the paddles up to 7th and then back to D. Anyone else had this issue with DCT? Other than that I absolutely love it though.
Thanks so much. I’m considering a 2018 M4 DCT. This was a big help.
It gets annoying really quick
-m6 owner
Great vid - definitely learned something. 👍🏻
Anyone know where to find the blue cluster overlays in this video?
hey how come your gages are blue ? did it come like that or u had it done
👏👏👏👏
I guess these tricks are worthless on my 1.3 Ford Fiesta..
does this DCT gearbox the keep gear system ? i mean can hold the car in a gear just like manual gearbox? like c63
hold the car in first or second gear for drifting or burnout? plz answer
Yes. In manual mode it will stay in whatever gear you place it. I'm pretty sure it doesn't automatically upshift at redline either.
Love this man i need one I live in Corning NY would you be able to help me with any upgrades I'd be interested in doing. I'd drive to you of course. I'm talking turbos etc I can handle basically everything else
Mee to mate 😄
Lol this was me!