I’m a Newcastle fan and totally admire the honesty of the lads.When you are working class and see players getting paid for doing nothing it’s utterly disgraceful and don’t understand the passion of the fans and what it means to community.The players don’t get this at all.Good luck for the future lads.
Waffling . You were there for the taking. We should of scored three. Easy finishes but we are in transition. You can always trust a snake toon fan to try and give sympathy. The most vile fans who got beaten in the league cup final. How about winning when it matters. You scored two headers, one a deflection so jog on mate. We will be fine unlike you play burn, debravka,trippier all bum players.
I remember us going down in 74. It wasnt great but we went down fighting. We wasnt getting dicked at home like this. A fan for 55 years ive never known Manchester United players so passionless. Laughing and joking with each before kick off. We are in deep shit and theyre totally oblivious to it. Not a fuck given. Its breaking my heart.
It's took almost 20 yrs for the Glazers to drag us into this position, even Fergie struggled. I remember going down and started attending games that season...it was like a home game every game...and at home, it was like being at Wembley...loads of working class...Yorkshire and Scotland included. I've said for last 4 yrs our traectory was downward, and but for moments fc we would have been 18th or so...now the moments have ceased...and we are near the relegation zone. I think in Feb or March we play the bottom teams...will that month decide our fate. It will if we cannot start picking up some pts, especially at home. I agree with video narrator...we need to ship out around 8 players...raise money for most important players we need...top players...then make up with the Academy. I fhtie rminutes are shared lads like Gore can play 30 minutes here and there...and do us proud. This lot won't. Feel sorry for Zirkzee...but should not have been signed...we needed a top CF a few yrs back. Murtough and co and Woodward and co are responsible for this...and Ten Hag...this squad just needs tweaking...deferring reset...shoving Ralf thro door...and the recruitment...and letting go of players, De Gea especially...dismal. Then basically taking it out of poorest staff and fans...stinks...BIG TIME
the players aren't good enough. amorim seems to be the right coach. this is on the owners. The glazers, but also ineos for backing ten hag bringing in his players. Now these players are getting slaughtered, because of the ownerships' shitshow. but these players need to pull their fingers out too. Garnacho for example. everyone raves about him. I'd love to see garnacho do the basic thing expected from a man utd winger, even a competent winger - run past a defender. Not run into them for the 100th time, lose the ball, and look like a fkin donkey. And the same can be said for rashford. and hes 27. what a joke. I may as well start laughing at my own team
@@rhyso_ I know management accountants tend to rule the roost these days, but I'd get rid of around 8 players...raise what you can, buy the most important players, ensuring that they are top class...then fill in with the Academy. We have to cut out the crap asap, it is dragging others down the longer it festers.
I nearly melted into the sofa 🛋️ watching that first 20 minutes. Never in 40 years have I seen as bad. They got absolutely dog walked around old Trafford.
Considering the enormous investment in this squad it has to be the worst value for money football team on the planet ever. The players are absolutely atrocious and extremely embarrassing.
I agree with Tony, it’s not Amorim’s fault and I’m tired of seeing the media blaming him. He’s trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear with them players. Only people to blame are INEOS!
@@jimmydbt1976 lads this team stopped a city double last year and beat Liverpool on the way. They are not that bad. We have swapped one system manager for another one with a different system
@@BrettRiverBoat1 Exactly. I'm not a United fan so I have no interest in Ten Hag conversations, but even Ruud did better. Unfortunately, the players have all the power, barring contract constraints. If they want to sack a manager, they can. United's managers need to be coddlers lest they upset the dressing room. And, that is the club's fault--that's what Rangnick spoke about.
Newcastle totally sat off and let Man Utd have the ball second half, their job was done in 20 minutes or the first half, they just preserved their energy and sat back second half to protect their lead. Outstanding game management from Howe.👏🏼
Probably the biggest put down and embarrassment about the whole situation. Howe and Newcastle never remotely felt like there was a chance of United coming back into the game. To the extent that after half an hour they were already looking to their next game, managing and keeping United at arms length and taking players off in the second half.
People in the club are losing their jobs just before Christmas and at the same time club paying that group of "players" 200 million per year.... Shocking! Players must take their responsibility for this.
West Ham fan here..the parallels with us are unreal…nothing in the middle of the park…every team needs a pair of athletes in the middle who can put it about a bit…we have a few slow, lumbering lumps in the middle…lose the battle every week and we pay the price And the system…we don’t have the players to fit the system the manager wants to play.. Damage limitation for you lot this season, get it done, weed out the shit, and get the players in that your manager needs and you will be a different side next season
@@DiMi-r4c it not about sacking ten hag it about bring the f shit coach the replace the worst coach that what happening 😛😛😛😛 look at Wolves manager and Lester city manager VNL make an impact
@@workmail725 why ? Not but we have all player so far the best coach you need to bring the best out of your group of players you don’t play with toy mates if you don’t like buy anew one each time if you thing like that you r f
Been a utd fan before the coming of fergie, and i agree, even then they played hard fighting football, these overpaid mercenaries are just pathetic, i dont even watch utd play again... since the semi final (non) win against coventry...
Die hard Newcastle fan here and honestly couldn’t believe what I was watching in that first half.. all I can say is if you guys play like you did in that first half there is going to be a lot more pain down the line. I’m in my mid 30’s and have never seen such a poor Man Utd team as I have tonight. Mainoo is your future only 19 and a shame he’s in such a car wreck of a team but he is real quality
He doesn’t have the work rate/legs for a high intensity team. He’ll do ok elsewhere in a less physically demanding system, but not in a Liverpool system, a City system, and of course what Amorim wants to play.
@ take him. He’s technically decent on the ball, but he doesn’t have the defensive work rate or speed, not good when your a team getting transitioned on. It’s horses for courses, just because someone is a decent player in one system, doesn’t mean they will be in another system. I’m not being oblivious to this stuff just because he’s an academy player for years like we were with Rashford and Lingaard, need to judge them to the same standard. If ‘he’s only 19’ then why is he trying to get a bumper contract literally right now? This is literally the sort of stuff the club has messed up with over the years. Its never was simple as ‘he’s a decent player’.
I am a Newcastle fan and we eased off after 19 minutes, basically seen the game out. Eriksen and Casemiro no pace whatsoever, as I say the second half was only because we eased off and seen it out.
You didn't ease off, Man United brought on Mainoo in the midfield which mean't we had a midfield that wasn't just two pensioners. Before that you were running through us like a whore but not after.
@@johnclegg4993 the manager picks the team and the formation, dalot on the left, again, rasmus playing target forward with no runners behind him or attacking midfielders close to support him, its crap and will get us relegated. Sort ot out rubin this isnt portugese league.
The midfield was the game changer, look at the passion your captain Bruno has for your badge! Celebrating a throw in with 3 minutes left, he was scrapping till the very end and I respect that from him. Joelinton and Tonali were also brilliant with their fight and effort, sadly our players don't have that bar amad and ugarte usually and potentially mazaroui the rest just have no desire or passion for this massive club it's a disgrace and it's been going on for a long time. Well done to your boys easy win for them 👏🏼
Looks that way now these players are absolutely shocking all off them give the young lads a chance because we are actually getting worse as a squad and a team something seriously wrong with the team absolutely horrific there again tonight should be ashamed of themselves all of them that's a fact Newcastle must have ran at five Miles more than us and that's being kind should never wear the jersey again a lot of them robbing a living that's a fact ffs
The youth doesn't suit this system. You have to let them train on it for at least three years. Otherwise you're just screwing them over and potentially ruining their career.
@@wolf3522 At least three years? What are you on about? If we have 18/19 year olds who have to be trained for THREE YEARS on a different formation, then they don't deserve to wear the shirt. Three year 😂 They're professional footballers.
He should of come in the summer or next summer, gotta have a preseason at manutd. As a Liverpool fan, I think Amorin is a good coach, however manutd have buy mediocre players pass 8years
Sincerely this team is so bad that even if we hire artificial intelligence (AI) to coach this team sincerely AI go get problem.i don’t know y this players simply don’t want to learn sincerely
@@martynmcnulty782 Ten Hag needed to go just for the mistake of buying Onana (amongst many others)! If we still had De Gea we'd probably have 5 or 6 points more, just because of that. Half the time he doesn't even attempt to make a save.
The main problem with the squad is that none of those players in the squad are naturally gifted. Every time a player gets the ball, the opponents know what will happen next. None of our midfielders can get the ball, turn, and dribble and do something that makes sense. Each time they get the ball, they pass it anywhere their nose is. None of the players can tackle, they're not smart, and their awareness is in the cemetery. I wish we had committed players. These players are just mercenaries.
Those are my very thoughts every single word, my wife rarely watches Football but she said last night “ your team look so slow and seem to play towards the wrong goal “ enough said
One to blame. Just one: Jim Ratcliffe. Simple as that. Re-sign ETH only to fire him 3 months later. Purchase NUFC TD only to fire him 5/6 months later. Not letting RvN, who thank God was winning (imagine us without those points), finish the season. Want Ruben? Ok let him come when he can get some work in during the Summer… now he lost the locker room as well. Jim Ratcliffe has made a huge mess of this wonderful football club. I am going to leave out the ticket prices and the horrible decisions regarding ex players and current staff. As a former football executive, I can tell you people like Jim will ruin every club. They have no empathy for the culture of the club or those who are truly important and those who are just people passing by… you see them everywhere… Jim is there for his ego and notararity, he could give a rats a$$ about MUFC
I've took untold stick for saying Eric Tin Pot should have git the bullet the minute the whistle went in the cup final. I'm still speechless they kept him. When we all know they really wanted rid of him. Huge humongous bollock dropped.
Mag here and always like to see the opposition view of the match. Respect for an honest and genuine review of the game from a proper fan. My personal view of Man U is that the whole structure of the club has changed. Back in the day Man U didn't pay the highest wages because the players were there for the kudos of playing for such a great team. The players now are on crazy money and only signed for ££ not the club the of old ..having players who dont buy into the club are useless no matter how much they earn. No manager can change the culture there in the short term!
In the pre match build up only the two academy players were taking it seriously all the others were laughing and joking they are refusing to work The academy players need to Play
Tony has seen it all. You get it ! We’re old school. We knew there were seats at the back of the Stretford and what the United Road meant. No shame with this squad.
WOW, Tony NAILED it with this analysis. Everything he said is spot on. No need to listen to anything or anyone else (though I have). Tony summed it up perfectly.
Only looking backward in time....they are the most experienced and skilled passers in the squad....we could have picked a different team and the score would have been 0-3....then that would have been the wrong decision too
I think Amorim knows but he has to convince Ineos and the board the players they signed like Zirkzee are poor and need to go. He needs reinforcements quickly and maybe wanted to showcase this before the transfer window.
@nota8386 Who would you've played? Casemiro is our only 6 when Ugarte is out, Mainoo was poor against Wolves, Collier is a kid, Mount is injured, and the manager explained to you why he started Zirkzee. It's easy to play Captain hindsight
Liverpool fan .i said this when he came .crazy decision to insist he came in middle of season. He wanted to wait anyway.ruud would have been more than happy to carry on till May , absolutely crazy
Tony, I fully agree with your comments. I was 14 when we were relegated in 1974 and as a young lad that was difficult to accept. The current rubbish is actually much worse and I can’t see it getting better for some time and may as well have thrown my season ticket money down a drain!
I am watching this from Spain being Dutch and see people reacting for years now criticizing players and or the manager. "It's Van Gaal, It's Mourinho, It's Moyes, or any player, it's Casemiro, it's Zirkzee, it's Bruno, It's Rashford, etc, etc, etc..." Now go for instance to Madrid and ask fans what they think of Casemiro. The reaction would be 100% positive. Great player, one of the best, etc... How is that possible? Well I know, it's not the manager, it's not an individual player, there is something completely wrong at the club and it's fans. They want to buy success, and then claim the cup with mercenaries and think they did it themselves. It's the soullessness, the attitude without love that is at the club and it's fans that is the problem. Big money destroyed professional football in general, but it's nowhere so obvious as at MU.
@@pietjemol3420 I know why he isn,t playing well his use by date is up.More power to Real for off loading him at the perfect time. PS."Get it" pull your head in before someone knocks it off for you.
I feel like Man U and Ajax Amsterdam went through the exact same thing. Rested on their laurels while football was getting more professional, went into a downward spiral, wage budget got out of control, players got into the habit of waiting out failing a manager, now every manager fails. Ajax seems a season ahead, they looked in actual danger of relegating last year and are getting their shit together now. I'm a fan of neither team but both clubs are a fascinating watch rn
The only uplifting moment was listening to the pre match singing. As long as we can still sing this way, even if we are eventually relegated, there will always be a seed that can regrow, there will always be a Manchester United! Keep singing lads!
I’m expecting a minimum of 20 league defeats and honestly the club deserves to go down, it will be a blessing actually, it’s the reset we need because I’m not seeing any urgency to change our fortunes the way Chelsea, Liverpool or Arsenal have shown. Get relegated and weed out the overpaid and underperforming mediocrity and play the academy plus some smart purchases of players who want to fight for the badge. Build a winning mentality against weaker opposition and win the championship. Clubs in the toilet right now.
Also hope this reset weeds out all the glory hunters who can’t get behind the team when needed , they find their voices when booing Zerkzee but generally just sit there expecting OUR average team to entertain them, we need our 12th man right now and loyal supporters.
@@paulhegarty8380 but that was exactly what ten hag did, change his philosophy to win some trophies but got sacked anyway so no, just relegate and overhaul the whole club and get ritt of the glazers
A training game for Newcastle tonight, so easy for them. As Tony says Liverpool will not take it easy. Dreading Sunday, can't see where a goal is coming from, never mind a win
Is that the Tony O’Neil of the Red Army and Men in Black? I’m not a Man U fan but I have read his books. Thats a pretty good match summary. He is spot on.
Relegation is the big reset Utd needs. The Glazers deserve everything they get. The fanbase is too weak to protest enough by boycotting matches, if it was Barca or Madrid the stadiums would be empty until they get what they want. Ruben is not good enough for the PL, neither are the players. It’s not going to turn around. We all know this. Go down, we can only rely on the players to hurt the Glazers. INEOS are in a mess. The away games would be great for the fans in the Championship, the tourists would stop getting tickets so there will be a spare here and there for the lads again.
Go and get in your safe-space you clown. These guys are made millionaires by Manchester United so they need to perform accordingly, if not then what are they doing?
@ mainoo has shown what he can do he’s proved himself Zirkzee looks as if he should be playing Sunday league let’s be honest I was shouting get him off before the game started he’s rotten
We need British grown players like the class of 92 to bring the culture and heart back into United. It’s completely lost its soul. You get that heart and chemistry between the players with time.
Amorim's pick for the 1st half was puzzling and we looked like deers in headlights... Eriksen and Casemiro in midfield with Zirkzee ahead of them was never going to quell the marauding North Easterners and we were lucky not to be 4 or 5 goals in arrears. The first 30 minutes was a new low in a season of new lows (I was sure we were playing with 10 men such was the battering we took.) Amorim made changes and Mainoo's inclusion steadied the rocking ship and on another luckier day we could have found ourselves at 2-2 with a couple of decent chances for Hojlund and Casemiro. Second half we competed but our issue for 2 seasons has been scoring goals. Amorim must pick his best and strongest team to start and not leave us chasing lost causes. Today could have been a 6 goal drubbing by the Geordies. Lets use the 2nd half performance to kick start our season and what better way than to shock Liverpool away? Lol We can but dream. Come on United!!! #glazersOUT
@@UrbnBarz agreed. Booing zirkzee was bang out of order, our squad is fragile and he was poor but so were the other 10 utd players. Fans need to get a grip as do the players
Fair play to the review and the vast majority of the comments. Lots of people talking rubbish or trying to wind people up about how Man Utd controlled the 2nd half because we never had a shot on goal but as you’ve said we just contained you as we never had to push for more goals. Great game management by Howe and the players
I don't think Zirkzee was being booed, I think they were booing the situation Zirkzee was put in, Amorin messed up and should have started Mainoo, every Utd fan knows it, thats what it was about
Tony spot on as usual. We get outfought, outworked, outrun week in week out. This is 20 years of Glazer mismanagement home to roost. Poor recruitment, no direction, too many square pegs in round holes and above all else, too many not suited to the pace, hard work and physicality of the premier league. Could easily see 6 plus players moved on and we’ve somehow got to replace them and build upon the squad. Monumental work ahead for us as a club.
Imagine English teacher asking a class of kids how to describe Man Utd now? They would soon come up with all the negative adjectives and words in the English languages. If they talk like Mark Goldbridge, poor teacher would faint!
Goldbridge is a dick. No respect for people who don't go to the games. How can you have an opinion if you don't support your team. Watching online and slagging the players off is poor. Spend your money supporting your team then your opinion is worth something
I'm NUFC and have been to Old Trafford 8 times, first time when we were promoted early 80's. 6 defeats there and the only victories were against Spurs/Sheff Utd in FA Cup semis. First time ever for Man U away I was sure we would win - so was every other NUFC fan I spoke to. That lad there, Tony, called it - we knew the toons midfield would boss them, Isak/Gordon/Jacob r on form and the defence had kept 3 clean sheets. Its these stories about charity payments stopped/Ferguson off the payroll etc that shock me -love or hate Man U they always had class. If u have an Ashley/Sports Direct there I feel sincerely sorry for your hard core, lifelong support.
Last time we were relegated it was fun for the fans and the feel of the club was, let’s get our arses out of this. Keep the players with that mentality and bin the rest!
At the end of the day we were playing in a back 4 under Erik, conceding less goals and creating 10x the chances that we are now. If Amorim is so good then why can’t he come in like Erik did and hit the ground running in the same way. Not to mention the fact he doesn’t seem to rate Mainoo or Garnacho who were exceptional at times under Erik. All we had to do was hold out for the goals to start going in under Erik and instead we’ve bottled it and now we’re playing a back 5 with a manager thats learning about his squad half way through a season. The only reason I can think they didn’t give Erik till the end of the season is because they thought he was going to be successful again come the end of the season and they secretly didn’t want him. Either way it was a brain dead decision and were now exactly where I thought we would be.
I thought the same when he was sacked. Games against palace and West Ham we looked deadly out the blocks, just couldn’t finish. But we were playing football. Once ugarte had been match fit for ETH we would have been some team.
@ I agree and again the fact that Ugarte was such a key position to get sorted for this season yet they didn’t get him in for Erik till very late in the window is also very poor from INEOS. How did they not see we were playing well whilst new singings were still getting up to speed and we’d of become stronger as the season went on.
People keep talking about "the system" but the system has nothing to do with Utd players not marking players in the box, not wanting to get hurt when a cross comes into the 6 yard box and needs heading clear, not running back, not closing down anthony gordon to stop the cross coming into the box in the first place.. if this were a team of 15/16 year olds the coach would be blasting these players for not trying, rather than talking up some magic 3-4-3 system that will change everything.. it's nonsense.
Because every fan would take every ashworth signing at united right now! He’s also not associated with a sh!t show anymore. Fans all saying he should have gone because he wanted Southgate or to stick with ten hag instead of Amorim? Amorim hasn’t done anything yet.
@@ShaquilleOatmeal730 why are you so hostile you utter 🔔end? Jim sacked him for backing Erik and now that "Jim'll Fuck It" got his way, we're a prick hair away from a relegation battle. I'd be laughing my bollocks off as well.
@ his behaviour over the whole Ashworth saga should be a warning to Man u fans. He clearly doesn't have a clue about how to run a club. We had a similar issue where Ashley kept stating the previous owners shafted him - when he hadn't done basic DD to assess the debt position of the club. And then once the fans turned on him he became bitter and basically was happy to let the club stagnate. So many warning signs here. Just Ask Rangers fans where Ashley only had a 10% holding and still shafted the club and fans.
I've been a fan for over 60 years. That first half against Newcastle was an embarrasment. I'm dreading the Liverpool game. We need amirical. Come on United.
There was only one “united” team on that field. I really admire the manc fan with his honesty of the interview he knows exactly what was talking about. Manc is a spent force arguably spoilt by the Ferguson years. (As were Newcastle United fans in the Keegan years)
You're looking for excuses not to bash Amorim! That's ridiculous, he sent this team onto the field, a weak midfield, De Ligt not central, Amad doesn't know where to go. Two old men in midfield, that's not possible! Once again the system is flawed, fine in Portugal, but the system doesn't work here, you just have to be honest. If you're all happy with it, fine, but then you shouldn't complain about losing almost every match. Amorim has made the players insecure with his system, and you can certainly blame him for that.
Totally agree,does not work with this group,i understand this is not his team and he only arrived at awkward time in the season but now amorim said he won't change his system even in a relegation battle,surely as a manager you must change systems playing against certain teams and play your best 11 to try and stay in the league, i wasn't a fan of ten hag but some of the players played better than they are now for hag,they are collapsing under amorim by the looks of things
We’ve had most of this team and attitude for years! A manager comes in with an idea and a plan and he won’t melt under pressure! I like that! Are these defeats a shock not at all it’s exposing these players for what they are! Not good enough! Over aged! Toothless! Spineless! The list goes on! He said they’d be a storm coz he sees them on the training ground! I’m all for it Iv been a red since 82 9 years old! One love🇾🇪
It’s questionable whether Bruno coming back for the Liverpool game might mean he suddenly gets a mystery illness or injury . His arms will be up more in the 90 mins than the ball at his feet that game !!LFC will probably put Man U to the sword !
2-0 was a miracle the first half , we should of been put to the sword . Second half with Kobbie in was better but we could be out there for 3 hours and wouldn’t score . Scoring is as big a problem as conceding headers . Two more difficult games ahead . Ruben I still back fully he will get this right in the long run . But this is going to be a tough watch until the end of the season . Tony’s frustration is felt by us all . Well said boys . 😈
I'm a Liverpool fan I remember when Manchester United where relegated in the 1973/74 season, they returned back up the following season, but if they go down this season they will find it hard to get back up again.
Same age group as Tony, his comments are so right. I am scared we could go down , I remember 72/3 and 73/4 went to all home games and about 10 away ones each season, we all thought and so did the pundits, we we were too good to go down Difference is now that we think we are so poor, believe me it can happen, away draws are no good now we need to win and win soon. Keep the faith red fans.
I'm a liverpool fan. i agree ManU should blood the youngsters and get loan players. As they will be more hungry for the ball and opportunity. ManU first half was quite pitiful. I've no sympathy for these PROFESSIONALS. Ultimate embarrasement and disgrace is for ManU to be relegated. Your coach knows what he was getting into. Spend the rest of the season staying above relegation but playing around with the lineups. Write it off!!!
Im not particular ManU fan ( Barcelona fan ) but as 33 yo i grew up with the big Manchester United era sad to see what happened with the team. None of this players have even a small amount of "Red Devil" inside of them as players like Scholes, Giggs, Ferdinand, had, they dont diserve to wear this jersey.
The sense of entitlement that the fans, the pundits, the club, the team all have is laughable. This is MAN UNITED, this can’t happen to us. WAKE UP. The Club NOW is a disaster which has been coming for a long long time. The ground is a shambles and falling down. Ratcliffe is a PR nightmare who doesn’t care about the fans. The complacency shown by the club for the last 20 years is biting you on the backside all because you are the biggest club in the world (sic) and it can’t happen to us. It isn’t happening, it’s happened. You are now looking over your shoulder at relegation. Bad decisions, bad recruitment. The Glasers creaming the profits, Fergie leeching £2m a year. Gill £1m a year. Rashford £350k a week. Antony, Zirkzee, Eriksen, Jonny Evans, Casemiro etc. The Club is holding good players like Mainoo and Diallo back from having top careers. I don’t support United but until you lot start getting realistic about who you are, where you are and then develop some humility long may this continue. You are 10 years behind Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and City so start getting used to it.
I lived in Manchester for 25 years in the 90s and into the 00s and that sense of entitlement you talk about is nailed on. Honestly, listening to United fans talk was just super annoying and boring - have to say I love that City are the best team in Manchester. I mean I don’t want to see United go down but to see them in this situation finally after 10 years of a rotating door of managers is actually fun to see.
Unless your on different planet united fans have been protesting glazers out this 20 years, we always knew they were disaster but all fans of other clubs would say is look how much yous spent what yous complaining about, well here we are now near bottom of table and only now fans of other clubs are seeing what mess glazers have created and are shouting it at us like we didn't know🤦
Stop living in the past 12 years since u won the premiership league and all other clubs have more money 💰 now it’s over now and it’s Liverpool turn ha great news 🗞️ and delusional fans 😊
Who decided to play Casemiro, Eriksen & zirkee in the same starting line up? When you have two players who cannot get about the pitch in midfield it was criminal to play Zirkee. The manager hasn’t to take the blame for that! This new manager is untested in the premier & his attacking 343 has never been successful in the premier league. Conte played a defensive version of this but teams figured this out after they won the title. There is nothing to suggest that the 343 formation will work. Amorim is also a major doubt. United fans cannot get hung up on him because there is nothing to say he will do well in the premier league. I genuinely believe Iraola from Bournemouth would have been the better appointment. He plays 4231 plus has had a full season and half in the premier league. Time will tell
Nah mate. He just needs to bring 5-6 players in and maybe he will win a game or two. It's all down to players they say, so what's the point in bringing a new manager in November?
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I’m a Newcastle fan and totally admire the honesty of the lads.When you are working class and see players getting paid for doing nothing it’s utterly disgraceful and don’t understand the passion of the fans and what it means to community.The players don’t get this at all.Good luck for the future lads.
@@geordiedownundernz8116 Class comment from an Irish red. Well played tonight
Waffling . You were there for the taking. We should of scored three. Easy finishes but we are in transition. You can always trust a snake toon fan to try and give sympathy. The most vile fans who got beaten in the league cup final. How about winning when it matters. You scored two headers, one a deflection so jog on mate. We will be fine unlike you play burn, debravka,trippier all bum players.
@@ShaquilleOatmeal730 spit out your dummy 🤡🤓
Yeah and these bum players walloped you so what does that make your lot 😂 sling your hook you entitled rat
@@ShaquilleOatmeal730 hahahahha cope much
I remember us going down in 74. It wasnt great but we went down fighting. We wasnt getting dicked at home like this. A fan for 55 years ive never known Manchester United players so passionless. Laughing and joking with each before kick off. We are in deep shit and theyre totally oblivious to it. Not a fuck given. Its breaking my heart.
Gutless lot
It's took almost 20 yrs for the Glazers to drag us into this position, even Fergie struggled. I remember going down and started attending games that season...it was like a home game every game...and at home, it was like being at Wembley...loads of working class...Yorkshire and Scotland included. I've said for last 4 yrs our traectory was downward, and but for moments fc we would have been 18th or so...now the moments have ceased...and we are near the relegation zone. I think in Feb or March we play the bottom teams...will that month decide our fate. It will if we cannot start picking up some pts, especially at home. I agree with video narrator...we need to ship out around 8 players...raise money for most important players we need...top players...then make up with the Academy. I fhtie rminutes are shared lads like Gore can play 30 minutes here and there...and do us proud. This lot won't. Feel sorry for Zirkzee...but should not have been signed...we needed a top CF a few yrs back. Murtough and co and Woodward and co are responsible for this...and Ten Hag...this squad just needs tweaking...deferring reset...shoving Ralf thro door...and the recruitment...and letting go of players, De Gea especially...dismal. Then basically taking it out of poorest staff and fans...stinks...BIG TIME
United won't get relegated they will spend while other teams around the bottom get shafted by FFP and PPR.
the players aren't good enough. amorim seems to be the right coach. this is on the owners. The glazers, but also ineos for backing ten hag bringing in his players. Now these players are getting slaughtered, because of the ownerships' shitshow. but these players need to pull their fingers out too. Garnacho for example. everyone raves about him. I'd love to see garnacho do the basic thing expected from a man utd winger, even a competent winger - run past a defender. Not run into them for the 100th time, lose the ball, and look like a fkin donkey. And the same can be said for rashford. and hes 27. what a joke. I may as well start laughing at my own team
@@rhyso_ I know management accountants tend to rule the roost these days, but I'd get rid of around 8 players...raise what you can, buy the most important players, ensuring that they are top class...then fill in with the Academy. We have to cut out the crap asap, it is dragging others down the longer it festers.
I nearly melted into the sofa 🛋️ watching that first 20 minutes. Never in 40 years have I seen as bad. They got absolutely dog walked around old Trafford.
Considering the enormous investment in this squad it has to be the worst value for money football team on the planet ever. The players are absolutely atrocious and extremely embarrassing.
I agree with Tony, it’s not Amorim’s fault and I’m tired of seeing the media blaming him. He’s trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear with them players. Only people to blame are INEOS!
@@jimmydbt1976 IF AMORIM MADE THE DECISION HE MADE 6 MONTHS IN, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU WOULD BE SAYING ITS THE MANAGERS FAULT.
@@jimmydbt1976 lads this team stopped a city double last year and beat Liverpool on the way. They are not that bad. We have swapped one system manager for another one with a different system
@@BrettRiverBoat1 Exactly. I'm not a United fan so I have no interest in Ten Hag conversations, but even Ruud did better. Unfortunately, the players have all the power, barring contract constraints. If they want to sack a manager, they can. United's managers need to be coddlers lest they upset the dressing room. And, that is the club's fault--that's what Rangnick spoke about.
Open ur eyes u tard
Amorim hasn't really had it that bad from the media.
Newcastle totally sat off and let Man Utd have the ball second half, their job was done in 20 minutes or the first half, they just preserved their energy and sat back second half to protect their lead. Outstanding game management from Howe.👏🏼
Probably the biggest put down and embarrassment about the whole situation. Howe and Newcastle never remotely felt like there was a chance of United coming back into the game. To the extent that after half an hour they were already looking to their next game, managing and keeping United at arms length and taking players off in the second half.
People in the club are losing their jobs just before Christmas and at the same time club paying that group of "players" 200 million per year.... Shocking! Players must take their responsibility for this.
West Ham fan here..the parallels with us are unreal…nothing in the middle of the park…every team needs a pair of athletes in the middle who can put it about a bit…we have a few slow, lumbering lumps in the middle…lose the battle every week and we pay the price
And the system…we don’t have the players to fit the system the manager wants to play..
Damage limitation for you lot this season, get it done, weed out the shit, and get the players in that your manager needs and you will be a different side next season
Sacking ETH this time of the year is criminal. Bring a new coach is like lamb for slaughter
@@DiMi-r4c it not about sacking ten hag it about bring the f shit coach the replace the worst coach that what happening 😛😛😛😛 look at Wolves manager and Lester city manager VNL make an impact
yeah should've build a clear structure at the club first before sacking eth
Especially when the new manager won't be allowed to buy any new players in Jan.
@@workmail725 why ? Not but we have all player so far the best coach you need to bring the best out of your group of players you don’t play with toy mates if you don’t like buy anew one each time if you thing like that you r f
I totally agree with you mates 😂😮
Worst group of players I think I’ve ever seen at Man Utd.
Been a utd fan before the coming of fergie, and i agree, even then they played hard fighting football, these overpaid mercenaries are just pathetic, i dont even watch utd play again... since the semi final (non) win against coventry...
Spot on
same players ruud won 3 games with.
Die hard Newcastle fan here and honestly couldn’t believe what I was watching in that first half.. all I can say is if you guys play like you did in that first half there is going to be a lot more pain down the line. I’m in my mid 30’s and have never seen such a poor Man Utd team as I have tonight. Mainoo is your future only 19 and a shame he’s in such a car wreck of a team but he is real quality
He doesn’t have the work rate/legs for a high intensity team. He’ll do ok elsewhere in a less physically demanding system, but not in a Liverpool system, a City system, and of course what Amorim wants to play.
@@wr9209 he's 19 and your saying he doesn't have the work rate or legs? wow. i'd take him at Newcastle in a heartbeat!
@ take him. He’s technically decent on the ball, but he doesn’t have the defensive work rate or speed, not good when your a team getting transitioned on. It’s horses for courses, just because someone is a decent player in one system, doesn’t mean they will be in another system. I’m not being oblivious to this stuff just because he’s an academy player for years like we were with Rashford and Lingaard, need to judge them to the same standard. If ‘he’s only 19’ then why is he trying to get a bumper contract literally right now? This is literally the sort of stuff the club has messed up with over the years. Its never was simple as ‘he’s a decent player’.
@@jrws89that’s our bell end fan base that we have nowadays mate. Total dick heads
@@jrws89 Mainoo has been the standout player on our last two games against Man UTD
I am a Newcastle fan and we eased off after 19 minutes, basically seen the game out. Eriksen and Casemiro no pace whatsoever, as I say the second half was only because we eased off and seen it out.
You didn't ease off, Man United brought on Mainoo in the midfield which mean't we had a midfield that wasn't just two pensioners. Before that you were running through us like a whore but not after.
Sadly you are right. Fully deserved your win. We are so poor.
@@johnclegg4993 the manager picks the team and the formation, dalot on the left, again, rasmus playing target forward with no runners behind him or attacking midfielders close to support him, its crap and will get us relegated. Sort ot out rubin this isnt portugese league.
You were shit, we should of beaten you even when we were shit. Beat you in the cup like the bums you are. Jog on mate. You didnt ease off.
The midfield was the game changer, look at the passion your captain Bruno has for your badge! Celebrating a throw in with 3 minutes left, he was scrapping till the very end and I respect that from him. Joelinton and Tonali were also brilliant with their fight and effort, sadly our players don't have that bar amad and ugarte usually and potentially mazaroui the rest just have no desire or passion for this massive club it's a disgrace and it's been going on for a long time. Well done to your boys easy win for them 👏🏼
Glazers and Ineos out - I’m fed up of this crap
Ineos? You must be thick
They don,t give a toss because Thick fans still fill Old Trafford.
@@trevorcross7703 you’re right mate
It’s the worst United team I have seen in my 45years on this Earth.
I’ve been on the earth longer than you, but agree with you 100%.
The 1974 team was worse
Far worse Utd teams than this lot.
@@felis1672 Not sure about that...
Only because it's fresh and new. Recency bias at its finest
ETH now looks like a genius winning 2 trophies with this lot
Bring the youth lads in these lot are embarrassing
Agreed, at least they will play with hunger
Yes
Looks that way now these players are absolutely shocking all off them give the young lads a chance because we are actually getting worse as a squad and a team something seriously wrong with the team absolutely horrific there again tonight should be ashamed of themselves all of them that's a fact Newcastle must have ran at five Miles more than us and that's being kind should never wear the jersey again a lot of them robbing a living that's a fact ffs
The youth doesn't suit this system. You have to let them train on it for at least three years. Otherwise you're just screwing them over and potentially ruining their career.
@@wolf3522 At least three years? What are you on about? If we have 18/19 year olds who have to be trained for THREE YEARS on a different formation, then they don't deserve to wear the shirt. Three year 😂 They're professional footballers.
Much respect to you Tony!
I’ve seen Chelsea in a few crisis’s in the last 38 years but never seen United in one as big as this.
35 years since we were this bad mate. When Fergie first came 🤦♂️
Amorin wishes he never set foot in there now . Poor bloke nobody can sort that mess out unless the glazers sell up
He was too sure of himself. Man U are finished. No manager can rescue these players.
Crazy leaving Sporting Lisbon to board the titanic.
He should of come in the summer or next summer, gotta have a preseason at manutd. As a Liverpool fan, I think Amorin is a good coach, however manutd have buy mediocre players pass 8years
The guys got 10 years of mess to clean up 😢the club needs a sort out starting for the top! I hope the quatrain buys the club and rebuilds everything
Sincerely this team is so bad that even if we hire artificial intelligence (AI) to coach this team sincerely AI go get problem.i don’t know y this players simply don’t want to learn sincerely
A Onana is a clown 🤡
Yep onana is an absolute joke! This guy has no idea of goals
Dreadful keeper - does he ever dive for anything. Isak header was straight at him.
You nail it mate
@@martynmcnulty782 Ten Hag needed to go just for the mistake of buying Onana (amongst many others)! If we still had De Gea we'd probably have 5 or 6 points more, just because of that. Half the time he doesn't even attempt to make a save.
@@andym6060£50 million
This is the first united channel that makes sense,well done guys 🙏
I'm a sheffield utd fan this is the level headed utd channel
The main problem with the squad is that none of those players in the squad are naturally gifted. Every time a player gets the ball, the opponents know what will happen next. None of our midfielders can get the ball, turn, and dribble and do something that makes sense. Each time they get the ball, they pass it anywhere their nose is. None of the players can tackle, they're not smart, and their awareness is in the cemetery. I wish we had committed players. These players are just mercenaries.
Hold on a second. You mean to tell me Eriksen is not gifted? Casemiro who won 5 CLs and was at one time the best dm in the world is not gifted?
Those are my very thoughts every single word, my wife rarely watches Football but she said last night “ your team look so slow and seem to play towards the wrong goal “ enough said
100 correct, all they do is pass sideways pass backwards, no thru passes at all no running off the ball
@@MalcolmHughes-de2wd Tell your wife her analysis is spot on, I literally chuckled at the, "your playing towards the wrong goal," comment.
One to blame. Just one: Jim Ratcliffe. Simple as that. Re-sign ETH only to fire him 3 months later. Purchase NUFC TD only to fire him 5/6 months later. Not letting RvN, who thank God was winning (imagine us without those points), finish the season. Want Ruben? Ok let him come when he can get some work in during the Summer… now he lost the locker room as well. Jim Ratcliffe has made a huge mess of this wonderful football club. I am going to leave out the ticket prices and the horrible decisions regarding ex players and current staff. As a former football executive, I can tell you people like Jim will ruin every club. They have no empathy for the culture of the club or those who are truly important and those who are just people passing by… you see them everywhere… Jim is there for his ego and notararity, he could give a rats a$$ about MUFC
I agree with you mate. I said all this few weeeks ago
Couldn’t agree more, really poor decision making since ineos came in
Damn so is basically a broke version of the glazers
I've took untold stick for saying Eric Tin Pot should have git the bullet the minute the whistle went in the cup final. I'm still speechless they kept him. When we all know they really wanted rid of him. Huge humongous bollock dropped.
After we get twatted by the scousers we've got Southampton at home. And they've not won one single away game all season. You know the rest.
Mag here and always like to see the opposition view of the match. Respect for an honest and genuine review of the game from a proper fan. My personal view of Man U is that the whole structure of the club has changed. Back in the day Man U didn't pay the highest wages because the players were there for the kudos of playing for such a great team. The players now are on crazy money and only signed for ££ not the club the of old ..having players who dont buy into the club are useless no matter how much they earn. No manager can change the culture there in the short term!
In the pre match build up only the two academy players were taking it seriously all the others were laughing and joking they are refusing to work
The academy players need to
Play
Tony sums it all up, one of the worst teams ever assembled at Old Trafford, Newcastle visibly dropped gears the second 45.
Tony has seen it all. You get it ! We’re old school. We knew there were seats at the back of the Stretford and what the United Road meant. No shame with this squad.
And pigeons😄
@ haha brilliant
The old metal seats 😂 I remember paying to get in the seats then dropping down onto the terrace because we weren't members
@@LesterAmbientAndroid i was one of those cheeky teenage united road monkeys in the 80s , happy days
Ronaldo too.
The ultimate problem is still the Glazers. Until they're gone, this club will never be great again
the whole club is a complete SHAMBLES 😮
WOW, Tony NAILED it with this analysis. Everything he said is spot on. No need to listen to anything or anyone else (though I have). Tony summed it up perfectly.
Casemiro, Erickson, zirkzee were shocking decisions..Amorin still learning about our league
That was suicide from Amorim tonight
Only looking backward in time....they are the most experienced and skilled passers in the squad....we could have picked a different team and the score would have been 0-3....then that would have been the wrong decision too
I think Amorim knows but he has to convince Ineos and the board the players they signed like Zirkzee are poor and need to go. He needs reinforcements quickly and maybe wanted to showcase this before the transfer window.
@nota8386 you forgot garnacho
@nota8386 Who would you've played? Casemiro is our only 6 when Ugarte is out, Mainoo was poor against Wolves, Collier is a kid, Mount is injured, and the manager explained to you why he started Zirkzee. It's easy to play Captain hindsight
The club forced Amorim to come before time.
He wanted a clean delineation and a full pre season and transfer window.
Do not be surprised if he walks.
He is getting sacked in February
And if he did I couldn't blame him
For his mental health he should walk away. Disgraceful that United are like this.
I hope he walks out.
Liverpool fan .i said this when he came .crazy decision to insist he came in middle of season. He wanted to wait anyway.ruud would have been more than happy to carry on till May , absolutely crazy
Sir Jim has well and truly fixed it now ! 😮
He’s got the club in a nose dive
It begins with 'f' yes
Now then now then... 🏅
You have a trinity of useless decision makers, the Glazers, Ratcliffe and Amorim.
Tony, I fully agree with your comments. I was 14 when we were relegated in 1974 and as a young lad that was difficult to accept. The current rubbish is actually much worse and I can’t see it getting better for some time and may as well have thrown my season ticket money down a drain!
I am watching this from Spain being Dutch and see people reacting for years now criticizing players and or the manager. "It's Van Gaal, It's Mourinho, It's Moyes, or any player, it's Casemiro, it's Zirkzee, it's Bruno, It's Rashford, etc, etc, etc..." Now go for instance to Madrid and ask fans what they think of Casemiro. The reaction would be 100% positive. Great player, one of the best, etc... How is that possible? Well I know, it's not the manager, it's not an individual player, there is something completely wrong at the club and it's fans. They want to buy success, and then claim the cup with mercenaries and think they did it themselves. It's the soullessness, the attitude without love that is at the club and it's fans that is the problem. Big money destroyed professional football in general, but it's nowhere so obvious as at MU.
Ask those Real fans if they want Casemiro back & starting, see how much love for him they have then.
@@cccc9299 That's what I mean. You do not even ask yourself why he isn't playing well... Get it?
@@pietjemol3420 I know why he isn,t playing well his use by date is up.More power to Real for off loading him at the perfect time. PS."Get it" pull your head in before someone knocks it off for you.
@@cccc9299 you just prove me correct.
I feel like Man U and Ajax Amsterdam went through the exact same thing. Rested on their laurels while football was getting more professional, went into a downward spiral, wage budget got out of control, players got into the habit of waiting out failing a manager, now every manager fails. Ajax seems a season ahead, they looked in actual danger of relegating last year and are getting their shit together now. I'm a fan of neither team but both clubs are a fascinating watch rn
INEOS is destroying the club!! We need a walk out and not going to the next game
Blah blah you are seriously clueless
@@richyclubsport5155 that’s because you don’t follow United!
INEOS are butchering the club mate. Killing the culture from within
Blah blah destroying the club, blah blah club is finished blah blah. A penny for everytime I've heard that cliche.
@@MrGts92 results speak for themselves pal. You can hide away from it. Its a relegation battle.
The only uplifting moment was listening to the pre match singing. As long as we can still sing this way, even if we are eventually relegated, there will always be a seed that can regrow, there will always be a Manchester United! Keep singing lads!
im not a man.u. fan but why not sign ed sheeran he,s not a bad singer
I’m expecting a minimum of 20 league defeats and honestly the club deserves to go down, it will be a blessing actually, it’s the reset we need because I’m not seeing any urgency to change our fortunes the way Chelsea, Liverpool or Arsenal have shown. Get relegated and weed out the overpaid and underperforming mediocrity and play the academy plus some smart purchases of players who want to fight for the badge. Build a winning mentality against weaker opposition and win the championship. Clubs in the toilet right now.
Also hope this reset weeds out all the glory hunters who can’t get behind the team when needed , they find their voices when booing Zerkzee but generally just sit there expecting OUR average team to entertain them, we need our 12th man right now and loyal supporters.
There's no guarantee we even win the Championship. Could be stuck down there like Sunderland and Blackburn.
Absolutely!
If United go down they won’t come back up for a while. Be careful what you wish for.
@@paul-ht7fqyou mean all the day trippers and tourists?
So Amorim needs to find a system that these clowns can play to get us through the season without getting relegated.
Billy Smart circus ?
Amorim said he would not change the system.
Exactly
@@paulhegarty8380 but that was exactly what ten hag did, change his philosophy to win some trophies but got sacked anyway so no, just relegate and overhaul the whole club and get ritt of the glazers
To get us through the season. So he can revert back to 3 4 3 again next 😂 problem still there.
A training game for Newcastle tonight, so easy for them. As Tony says Liverpool will not take it easy. Dreading Sunday, can't see where a goal is coming from, never mind a win
Could end in a draw as premier league is the strangest it's ever been
@@alanhull-ii5ipNot a chance
@u-Dramatic_avocado5867 a na a was being daft but a dont trust refs when it comes to man utd that's all
Is that the Tony O’Neil of the Red Army and Men in Black? I’m not a Man U fan but I have read his books. Thats a pretty good match summary. He is spot on.
Relegation is the big reset Utd needs. The Glazers deserve everything they get. The fanbase is too weak to protest enough by boycotting matches, if it was Barca or Madrid the stadiums would be empty until they get what they want. Ruben is not good enough for the PL, neither are the players. It’s not going to turn around. We all know this. Go down, we can only rely on the players to hurt the Glazers. INEOS are in a mess.
The away games would be great for the fans in the Championship, the tourists would stop getting tickets so there will be a spare here and there for the lads again.
@@snaggletooth4585 unfortunately there is too many tourist fans that will fill up those seats
What are you talking about Ruben ain’t good enough plzzzzz
Only thing I disagree with here is Ruben is not good enough for the PL
Why would the Glazers care if we get relegated?
@@MrGts92 classic economics sell low buy high
Disgraceful booing Zirkzee
Why what’s he done to deserve cheers ???
@@Pk-fi5hqWhat have any of these players done to avoid being booed? I’m sure you’d be all against Mainoo being booed, so why another player?
Go and get in your safe-space you clown. These guys are made millionaires by Manchester United so they need to perform accordingly, if not then what are they doing?
@ mainoo has shown what he can do he’s proved himself Zirkzee looks as if he should be playing Sunday league let’s be honest I was shouting get him off before the game started he’s rotten
@Pk-fi5hq Zirkzee was by far not the worst player on the pitch. What do you think you're achieving by booing him?
We need British grown players like the class of 92 to bring the culture and heart back into United. It’s completely lost its soul. You get that heart and chemistry between the players with time.
excellent analysis - much better than anything from the so called pundits on the tele
Amorim's pick for the 1st half was puzzling and we looked like deers in headlights... Eriksen and Casemiro in midfield with Zirkzee ahead of them was never going to quell the marauding North Easterners and we were lucky not to be 4 or 5 goals in arrears.
The first 30 minutes was a new low in a season of new lows (I was sure we were playing with 10 men such was the battering we took.)
Amorim made changes and Mainoo's inclusion steadied the rocking ship and on another luckier day we could have found ourselves at 2-2 with a couple of decent chances for Hojlund and Casemiro.
Second half we competed but our issue for 2 seasons has been scoring goals.
Amorim must pick his best and strongest team to start and not leave us chasing lost causes.
Today could have been a 6 goal drubbing by the Geordies.
Lets use the 2nd half performance to kick start our season and what better way than to shock Liverpool away?
Lol
We can but dream.
Come on United!!!
#glazersOUT
@@UrbnBarz agreed.
Booing zirkzee was bang out of order, our squad is fragile and he was poor but so were the other 10 utd players.
Fans need to get a grip as do the players
Fair play to the review and the vast majority of the comments. Lots of people talking rubbish or trying to wind people up about how Man Utd controlled the 2nd half because we never had a shot on goal but as you’ve said we just contained you as we never had to push for more goals. Great game management by Howe and the players
Wasn’t Tony and his cronies picking on Reds for protesting against the Glazers back in the day? They got the club they deserve.
Tony who ?
Absolute brilliant words Tony. Whole heartedly agree. Bring in the Young Guns. OAPs on the team have to go!!
I don't think Zirkzee was being booed, I think they were booing the situation Zirkzee was put in, Amorin messed up and should have started Mainoo, every Utd fan knows it, thats what it was about
Can't believe Ten Hag thought this keeper was an upgrade. Worst keeper we've had since Roy Carroll
Tony spot on as usual. We get outfought, outworked, outrun week in week out. This is 20 years of Glazer mismanagement home to roost. Poor recruitment, no direction, too many square pegs in round holes and above all else, too many not suited to the pace, hard work and physicality of the premier league. Could easily see 6 plus players moved on and we’ve somehow got to replace them and build upon the squad. Monumental work ahead for us as a club.
Imagine English teacher asking a class of kids how to describe Man Utd now? They would soon come up with all the negative adjectives and words in the English languages. If they talk like Mark Goldbridge, poor teacher would faint!
Goldbridge is a dick. No respect for people who don't go to the games. How can you have an opinion if you don't support your team. Watching online and slagging the players off is poor. Spend your money supporting your team then your opinion is worth something
Can we have cricket rules v the scousers? Maybe Liverpool will declare at half time if they’ve scored enough goals?
If only it was possible to forfeit the match and just hand them a 3-0 win.
Well said tony 👏 back the manager and back this channel! Wheres webby in the canal?😂
Set my alarm for 2-45am for that shite but knew it would happen
Go 442 ! It’s Man Utd DNA 2 out and out wingers and go for it 👍
Amorim said No Rashford, because he has bad [people around him, yet Rashford's on the Bench, So Player Power has Won Again.
I'm NUFC and have been to Old Trafford 8 times, first time when we were promoted early 80's. 6 defeats there and the only victories were against Spurs/Sheff Utd in FA Cup semis. First time ever for Man U away I was sure we would win - so was every other NUFC fan I spoke to. That lad there, Tony, called it - we knew the toons midfield would boss them, Isak/Gordon/Jacob r on form and the defence had kept 3 clean sheets. Its these stories about charity payments stopped/Ferguson off the payroll etc that shock me -love or hate Man U they always had class. If u have an Ashley/Sports Direct there I feel sincerely sorry for your hard core, lifelong support.
Last time we were relegated it was fun for the fans and the feel of the club was, let’s get our arses out of this.
Keep the players with that mentality and bin the rest!
Division one can kiss my arse, we're in division two at last, we don't mind and we don't care, we'll keep the red flag flying there,
You’d need a big fu**ing skip to get rid of the shite that’s destroying Man Utd ….
Why why why do United think their midfield isn’t much worse than most PL sides? Why are they constantly surprised?
At the end of the day we were playing in a back 4 under Erik, conceding less goals and creating 10x the chances that we are now. If Amorim is so good then why can’t he come in like Erik did and hit the ground running in the same way. Not to mention the fact he doesn’t seem to rate Mainoo or Garnacho who were exceptional at times under Erik. All we had to do was hold out for the goals to start going in under Erik and instead we’ve bottled it and now we’re playing a back 5 with a manager thats learning about his squad half way through a season. The only reason I can think they didn’t give Erik till the end of the season is because they thought he was going to be successful again come the end of the season and they secretly didn’t want him. Either way it was a brain dead decision and were now exactly where I thought we would be.
I thought the same when he was sacked. Games against palace and West Ham we looked deadly out the blocks, just couldn’t finish. But we were playing football. Once ugarte had been match fit for ETH we would have been some team.
@ I agree and again the fact that Ugarte was such a key position to get sorted for this season yet they didn’t get him in for Erik till very late in the window is also very poor from INEOS. How did they not see we were playing well whilst new singings were still getting up to speed and we’d of become stronger as the season went on.
Spot on, this is not the MUFC we all know and love, these players are breaking our hearts week in week out!
Man United 1st half 4 shots 0 on target, absolute joke, Zirkzee is never a United player.
Not Zirkzee’s fault Casemiro was spanking it into Row Z all the time
People keep talking about "the system" but the system has nothing to do with Utd players not marking players in the box, not wanting to get hurt when a cross comes into the 6 yard box and needs heading clear, not running back, not closing down anthony gordon to stop the cross coming into the box in the first place.. if this were a team of 15/16 year olds the coach would be blasting these players for not trying, rather than talking up some magic 3-4-3 system that will change everything.. it's nonsense.
Dan Ashworth must be sipping on a glass of Bailey’s laughing his bollocks off.
Why? Tell us mate , break it down since you know it all
@@ShaquilleOatmeal730relegation battle.
Come back to me after Sunday
Because every fan would take every ashworth signing at united right now!
He’s also not associated with a sh!t show anymore. Fans all saying he should have gone because he wanted Southgate or to stick with ten hag instead of Amorim? Amorim hasn’t done anything yet.
@@ShaquilleOatmeal730 why are you so hostile you utter 🔔end? Jim sacked him for backing Erik and now that "Jim'll Fuck It" got his way, we're a prick hair away from a relegation battle. I'd be laughing my bollocks off as well.
Nope, Dan must be kicking himself for leaving Newcastle but he only has himself to blame
Great video tony, love the passion and the honesty pal
Toon fan here. Always enjoy your show lads, tell it like it is. Jim Ratcliffe is a richer, slimmer Mike Ashley. Grim times ahead I'm afraid lads.
Agreed! And he lives in Monaco for tax reasons. So far removed from Manchester in mind and body - he’s going to destroy our club! I feel it!
@ his behaviour over the whole Ashworth saga should be a warning to Man u fans. He clearly doesn't have a clue about how to run a club. We had a similar issue where Ashley kept stating the previous owners shafted him - when he hadn't done basic DD to assess the debt position of the club. And then once the fans turned on him he became bitter and basically was happy to let the club stagnate. So many warning signs here. Just Ask Rangers fans where Ashley only had a 10% holding and still shafted the club and fans.
It truly is breaking my heart to see what has become of MU. There is a genuine possibility of relegation.
Why play Erikson and Casemiro in the middle!? The game was over before it began!
100%. This puzzles me. Why do this ? Stupid call
yep blame the manager for that, was obvious we'd get overran
@@darianharold2228 the truth is no matter who we play... we have a shit team.
@@manvirshergill1739 true
The two of them are finished a long time casimero and Erikson Jesus Christ the whole world 🌎 can see that
Well said very honest, and with common sense.
A big mess,and millions spent on under achievers.
Rashford is a disgrace.
5 at the back at Old Trafford. Id never thought I'd see the day. Just invite the attack! Casemiro wtf are you doing?!
Lol its not Eriksens fault. There's a fucking field completely open, what do you want Eriksen to do lol
I've been a fan for over 60 years. That first half against Newcastle was an embarrasment. I'm dreading the Liverpool game. We need amirical. Come on United.
There was only one “united” team on that field. I really admire the manc fan with his honesty of the interview he knows exactly what was talking about. Manc is a spent force arguably spoilt by the Ferguson years. (As were Newcastle United fans in the Keegan years)
You're looking for excuses not to bash Amorim! That's ridiculous, he sent this team onto the field, a weak midfield, De Ligt not central, Amad doesn't know where to go. Two old men in midfield, that's not possible! Once again the system is flawed, fine in Portugal, but the system doesn't work here, you just have to be honest. If you're all happy with it, fine, but then you shouldn't complain about losing almost every match. Amorim has made the players insecure with his system, and you can certainly blame him for that.
Spot on
Totally agree,does not work with this group,i understand this is not his team and he only arrived at awkward time in the season but now amorim said he won't change his system even in a relegation battle,surely as a manager you must change systems playing against certain teams and play your best 11 to try and stay in the league, i wasn't a fan of ten hag but some of the players played better than they are now for hag,they are collapsing under amorim by the looks of things
You guys just sum up everything so well. Echo your sentiments.
How bad is Zirkzee and he walked off after being subbed,get rid in Jan.Mismatch in midfield until Mainoo came on
Manager picked him and sent him out in a weak formation against good players.. it's on him
@ I agree,baffling why he did that but soon realised it was a mistake and removed him
Amorim said he was adaptable and pragmatic.
Amorim can't keep experimenting.
@@MichaelEnright-gk6yc hes not adapting to the prem or united, he must change it rapid
Well said Tony. Great aftermatch video.
Excellent analysis of the game.
Can we play left footed players on the left and right footed on the right please.
We’ve had most of this team and attitude for years! A manager comes in with an idea and a plan and he won’t melt under pressure! I like that! Are these defeats a shock not at all it’s exposing these players for what they are! Not good enough! Over aged! Toothless! Spineless! The list goes on! He said they’d be a storm coz he sees them on the training ground! I’m all for it Iv been a red since 82 9 years old! One love🇾🇪
Amad ran his socks off
@@MikeD-r2c Like the whole Newcastle team
Newcastle fan, 2 pensioners up against Bruno, Tonali and Joelinton was asking for trouble.
It’s questionable whether Bruno coming back for the Liverpool game might mean he suddenly gets a mystery illness or injury . His arms will be up more in the 90 mins than the ball at his feet that game !!LFC will probably put Man U to the sword !
2-0 was a miracle the first half , we should of been put to the sword . Second half with Kobbie in was better but we could be out there for 3 hours and wouldn’t score . Scoring is as big a problem as conceding headers . Two more difficult games ahead . Ruben I still back fully he will get this right in the long run . But this is going to be a tough watch until the end of the season . Tony’s frustration is felt by us all . Well said boys . 😈
Tony absolute respect,, you are absolutely spot on my brother 👏 💚
I'm a Liverpool fan I remember when Manchester United where relegated in the 1973/74 season, they returned back up the following season, but if they go down this season they will find it hard to get back up again.
The issue now is will the Manager walk , who could blame him if he did
Same age group as Tony, his comments are so right. I am scared we could go down , I remember 72/3 and 73/4 went to all home games and about 10 away ones each season, we all thought and so did the pundits, we we were too good to go down Difference is now that we think we are so poor, believe me it can happen, away draws are no good now we need to win and win soon. Keep the faith red fans.
Honestly looking at the fixtures the only hope is we can beat Southampton
What was happening in the 70s and 80s in football?
Amorim has to take the blame today for picking Casemiro and Eriksen together. Clueless. Stop playing this “system” it doesn’t work!
I'm a liverpool fan. i agree ManU should blood the youngsters and get loan players. As they will be more hungry for the ball and opportunity. ManU first half was quite pitiful. I've no sympathy for these PROFESSIONALS. Ultimate embarrasement and disgrace is for ManU to be relegated. Your coach knows what he was getting into. Spend the rest of the season staying above relegation but playing around with the lineups. Write it off!!!
Im not particular ManU fan ( Barcelona fan ) but as 33 yo i grew up with the big Manchester United era sad to see what happened with the team. None of this players have even a small amount of "Red Devil" inside of them as players like Scholes, Giggs, Ferdinand, had, they dont diserve to wear this jersey.
The sense of entitlement that the fans, the pundits, the club, the team all have is laughable. This is MAN UNITED, this can’t happen to us. WAKE UP. The Club NOW is a disaster which has been coming for a long long time. The ground is a shambles and falling down. Ratcliffe is a PR nightmare who doesn’t care about the fans. The complacency shown by the club for the last 20 years is biting you on the backside all because you are the biggest club in the world (sic) and it can’t happen to us. It isn’t happening, it’s happened. You are now looking over your shoulder at relegation. Bad decisions, bad recruitment. The Glasers creaming the profits, Fergie leeching £2m a year. Gill £1m a year. Rashford £350k a week. Antony, Zirkzee, Eriksen, Jonny Evans, Casemiro etc. The Club is holding good players like Mainoo and Diallo back from having top careers.
I don’t support United but until you lot start getting realistic about who you are, where you are and then develop some humility long may this continue. You are 10 years behind Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and City so start getting used to it.
I lived in Manchester for 25 years in the 90s and into the 00s and that sense of entitlement you talk about is nailed on. Honestly, listening to United fans talk was just super annoying and boring - have to say I love that City are the best team in Manchester. I mean I don’t want to see United go down but to see them in this situation finally after 10 years of a rotating door of managers is actually fun to see.
@@TheAdArchive they couldnt even beat this shit utd team the other week dopey.
Unless your on different planet united fans have been protesting glazers out this 20 years, we always knew they were disaster but all fans of other clubs would say is look how much yous spent what yous complaining about, well here we are now near bottom of table and only now fans of other clubs are seeing what mess glazers have created and are shouting it at us like we didn't know🤦
Shut up you clown
Yes Tony when they blame each other on the pitch what are they doing in training field??? 🤬
Stop living in the past 12 years since u won the premiership league and all other clubs have more money 💰 now it’s over now and it’s Liverpool turn ha great news 🗞️ and delusional fans 😊
Who decided to play Casemiro, Eriksen & zirkee in the same starting line up? When you have two players who cannot get about the pitch in midfield it was criminal to play Zirkee. The manager hasn’t to take the blame for that! This new manager is untested in the premier & his attacking 343 has never been successful in the premier league. Conte played a defensive version of this but teams figured this out after they won the title.
There is nothing to suggest that the 343 formation will work. Amorim is also a major doubt. United fans cannot get hung up on him because there is nothing to say he will do well in the premier league. I genuinely believe Iraola from Bournemouth would have been the better appointment. He plays 4231 plus has had a full season and half in the premier league.
Time will tell
Tony is right bring the kids in season is finish 😢😢😎
I’m from Jamaica and I knew what was gonna happen as well.
The way the team was set up was asking for trouble. That's on the manager. If he doesn't learn soon he won't be here long
Nah mate. He just needs to bring 5-6 players in and maybe he will win a game or two.
It's all down to players they say, so what's the point in bringing a new manager in November?
Don’t worry you get relegated😂