After I recorded this video, Putin said that the perpetrators of the attack were Islamic fundamentalists, but that they were somehow sponsored by the United States. It doesn't change my point in the video, but it does show the scope of competing narratives that they are floating. Be aware of attempts at impersonation scams in the comments section. If somebody with my profile picture asks you to contact them on a private service like Telegram or WhatsApp, please don't. It's not actually me.
Regardless, the parallels between this horrific attack and earlier Putin black flag ops from his early days as Russian president is either supremely ironic or telling
I disagree with the assessment... I'm almost positive the FSB posed as ISIS on the web, recruited and supplied another ISIS cell and then quickly picked them up after the hit. Clean and easy... Listen to the interviews with the prisoners! Their answers would fit my theory perfectly! They even name the dude that contacted them!
@@mcbriteAlso the very slow response of the Police Special Forces is very bizarre. They claim it was due to the traffic at the time. Don't they have other transportation means? There are those things called helicopters, I've heard...
Hmmm interesting how some of u really can’t handle how competent the Russians really are. Instead of loosing the war like you all keep saying- Russia slowly but surely is competently seeing their strategy through while Ukraine is showing more and more of their incompetence. The exact opposite of what you Ukraine supporters keep proclaiming.
@mx5am945 Eh, that's a half truth at best. Russia's strategy is working, but at a far higher cost in lives and material than would've been the case otherwise. It has learned from tactical and operational mistakes, but only very slowly. And it's having to use attrition warfare against a relatively poor, Eastern European country that it outnumbers 5:1. Not really anything to celebrate, bud.
Agree. Also, it was clear to me that the Kremlin was stunned into a day or two of silence. If this was false flag they would have been prepared to talk about it from the start.
They had their points ready: blame Ukraine. What happened was the "hired gun" were actual radicals and front ran the regime giving credit to is. Now the regime is doing damage control.
Seems implausible if it was incompetence. They were warned multiple times in advance and their special forces were right there across the street but did nothing for an hour, sorry, were "driving around for an hour". ISIS suspects somehow "captured" but didn't blow themselves up like literally all other ISIS terrorists? ..... Like the school attack, the false flags are attacks that were allowed to happen: not that they were 100% fake. It may not look the gov look "good" but its the response that Putin wants: mobilisation.
In the 2017 London Bridge terrorist attack, an armed group of London policemen (led by an officer with a Polish name if I remember correctly) arrived just eight minutes after the attack began. But in Moscow, it took the police some 90 minutes to arrive - despite the fact that a large police station was just minutes away. That seems very slow
There’s a video of a policeman walking with his k9 during the attack. Everyone was running in panic and him was acting like if was another day on the job.
Indeed. Anders says they aren't just sitting around with their gear on ready to go. In the UK, they certainly aren't just sitting around. They are patrolling. There are vans full of armed police officers driving around London day and night. That's how they were able to respond in eight minutes. That's what competent police forces do.
The Kremlin's refrain reminds me of "Blame Canada, blame Canada. It seems like everything's gone wrong since Canada came along ... They're not even a real country, anyway." That level of detail and opportunism.
(Verse 1) When things go wrong, as they sometimes will, When the news just makes you want to spill, Why look at ourselves, reflecting on our own mistakes? Just find a far-off place and give a shake!(Chorus) Blame Ukraine! Blame Ukraine! With their borscht and their beautiful plains, For all our problems, they're the ones to claim, So let's all point our fingers and Blame Ukraine!
(Verse 2) Is your Internet slow, or your coffee too plain? Does your boss nag you, is it gonna rain? Forget common sense, just take the easy lane, Throw up your hands and loudly exclaim -(Chorus) Blame Ukraine! Blame Ukraine! For the traffic jam and the uncaught train, For every little thing that drives us insane, It's much easier to just Blame Ukraine!(Bridge) Oh, it's not about logic, or being fair or right, It's about finding a scapegoat in plain sight. Why face our troubles, why deal with our pain, When we've got a perfectly good Ukraine?(Chorus) Blame Ukraine! Blame Ukraine! For the lost keys and the unexplained stain, For every hiccup in life's fast lane, Just shrug and simply Blame Ukraine!(Outro) So when in doubt, and you need to explain, Why life's not perfect in your little domain, Don't look to yourself, don't take the blame, Join the chorus, and Blame Ukraine!
Maybe if the terrorists had been holding up blank pieces of paper instead of shooting, then the security police might have jumped on them in less than six or seven hours.
Yes, they took their precious time getting ready. "They have guns? I think I need a shower before I get dressed, you go on ahead..." "No, I have to polish my boots before I get ready..."
There is a phenomenon in Soviet/post-Soviet countries called "inosmi", literally "foreign media". At some point Soviet special services have realized, that no matter what, apart from really low educated people, more educated class does not trust Soviet newspapers and TV. Even a new year TV show has become a laughing stock, because filled with non-fresh propaganda about success of collective farming. And they came up with ingenuine way to address that: introduce "foreign media review" into a closed society. You know, all these communist newspapers around the world, blaming America and praising Soviet Union. Some of them were even created just to look foreign. But people trusted it way more than "Pravda" newspaper. Because it came from abroad. KGB really knew how to use internal protest in their favor. This tactic is utilized in Russia too, when a "famous American expert" "blames America", but likely he doesn't even exist, or more likely, is a Russian expat. Another side of this medal is mentioned in the video: Russian special services are OK with general public believing that the State is evil. "Ryazan sugar" case hasn't been forgotten, and this plays well for the narrative. Russians are allowed to dislike their state, to be afraid of it, to not trust it, occasionally to protest a bit, so that passionaries are visible to KGB. But don't you dare to be not afraid. Once you're not afraid, you're in trouble.
I beg to differ about more educated classes not trusting Soviet media. When I was studying at university the place was infested by rather intelligent people who otherwise blindly believed everything Soviet media published and were very busy parroting it to anyone who would listen.
Interesting take. Now the NYT et al publishing pro Russia and (more recently) pro Chinese "news" makes a little more sense to me. You don't even need to control a whole outlet, you just need one journalist who can publish what you need. It's a shame domestic media in the west isn't also seen as a joke.
4:50 "And it does not make sense for me that the perpetrators would drive towards the Ukrainian border after getting away from the crime scene, because the Ukrainian border really is the area in all of Russia where there is the most military and there is the strongest border protection." Good point, now that you mention it 👍
I agree, and this is what I posted when the news came out. I'm not European [except by ancestry], and not military [though I have, occasionally, taught in military schools], but I have enough Middle East and East Asian experience to have reasonable doubts about what has happened, who did it, and what the Russian Imperial government is doing to massage the news. Thanks for your always intelligent and credible videos.
I agree with the main points of the presentation....that it was incompetence and not a false flag operation. It will also be likely to Russia will try to put a lid on things as soon as they can and not give an accurate account of what actually happened. Another expert on Russia said recently in an interview that they ALWAYS have incomplete investigations into terrorist attacks in Russia and never get to the bottom of exactly what happened. I do think the guys they caught were the ones involved because the clothes are the same etc as the ones doing the attack and the fact that ISIS published a video with body cam footage etc that seems to confirm that it was an ISIS operation. The escape route does not make sense, and we probably won't be able to get the truth on that since Russia wants it to look like they were heading for Ukraine where they could be helped to escape.
If those were the guys, how did they manage to drive the same car used in the attack all the way to where ever they were caught (Belarus, some where near Ukrainian border...). More epic incompetence by the ruZZians.
Does it really matter if this will inevitably still be used to justify more attacks against Ukrainian civilians? If it was a false flag, people died and that will be used to justify more death, if it wasn't, people died and that will be used to justify more death.
@@HandleMyBallsRUclips Putin will always find justification to his acts. Whatever we do or don’t do, say or don’t say. If he needs a justification, he just makes it.
The fact it took so long for the security services to respond just proves what you're saying. They're set up to respond to things like protests where they can prepare in advance, not sudden unexpected crimes like this one.
The 90-minute (or whatever long length it was) delay does NOT prove what he is saying. It is a piece of info that can be argued to support different interpretations of what happened. Yours is one interpretation, but it’s not the only way to look at it. Just chiming in to encourage better use of logic & critical thinking.
Wasn't unexpected at all, and the OMON SWAT / Rosgvardia base is a 3.16km drive on a single straight road, with lights on would take 5 minutes if urgent.
Sober... yet utterly wrong. He suggested Ukraine would win in the long run, win certain battles, Russia was running out of arms etc. He sounds plausible but follow what he has said in the past, and remember.
I agree that this attack was not a false flag, but Putin has shown that he is not afraid to use such tactics in the past. The 1999 Russian apartment bombing come to mind. In September of 1999, apartment buildings in Moscow, Buynaksk, and Volgodonsk (this is all on Wiki) were struck by bombs causing 1,300 casualties. Read the section "Ryazan incident (FSB exercises "Ryazan sugar")" for details about that averted bombing. Also interesting that Duma speaker Gennadiy Seleznyov announced the Volgodonsk bombing 3 days before it happened. So, the false flag idea is not crazy, it just does not fit this scenario.
Having been part of the US military, the idea that an agency might try exercises mimicking real events while those events are happening, is completely believable.
Antiterrorist unit is located 8-10 minutes away from the concert hall. Antiterrorist units by default are to be ready 24/7 same as firefighters. Yet in Russia it took them and hour to get there.
Also there is a policestation just next to the consert hall. You would think they at least could have tried to stop them when they were escaping the scene.
As opposed to all of those other times, which were pure utopia? It's a shitty species that we're stuck in. As long as human nature exists, there will be lots of horrible things to deal with.
Security services might have held back because they didn't want to head into danger. They're not in security to take risks, but to be in a higher caste.
I don't buy the idea that a "SWAT Team" needs time to first have a shower, put on nice clean uniform, get on parade for inspection, maybe run around this or that tree, if someone's laces aren't tied symmetrically, go to the gas station, fill up with petrol, ... you get my point? And every city on Earth has "Flying Squad" / SWAT Team situations that need to be planned for, just like it needs a fire brigade that doesn't first have to get approval signed off in triplicate by the guy who's currently on lunch (sorry ...) ... or ambulances that stand in the parking lot, while the crew are called in from home ... ( ... ) ... Looks to me like actually protecting people is not part of Putin's plan to put everyone at ease by keeping them safe and secure, just as if he was their big, strong Daddy. I think this "protection" thing is just a pretense? What he keeps safe is his bunker. (Just picking up on a theory I've heard doing the rounds that makes a lot of sense to me. The security apparatus exists entirely to serve one man, hence the failure to respond as quickly as, say, ... a SWAT Team would?) I mean imagine a gunman started going crazy in the busiest part of Copenhagen on the busiest day of the year, and the police only rocked up an hour later, after he'd run out of victims to kill. Would everyone say something like, "Give the poor guys a break. They need time to get ready"? Or would the Chief of Police be in a bit of trouble the very next day?
Well, it’s hard to imagine something like this in Denmark, because in Norway, which is extremely close to you, Breivik killed people for more than 70 minutes.
@@EvgeniyYakushev-m2uFrom what I read on Wikipedia it sounds like the Norwegian "SWAT Team" was on its way by road to the island about 8 minutes or so from the time the shooting started. (And that shooting wasn't at a stadium on major roads, not far from their base.)
@@sicko_the_ew The island is about 40 minutes from Oslo. The police in Russia also arrived much earlier than the time you call. The anti-terrorist detachment is SOBR, someone gave you incorrect information regarding their base.
@@EvgeniyYakushev-m2uAnyway, I suppose the possibly slow response isn't what murdered all those innocent people, so the real problem here is the ISIS Disease, and in the Norwegian case, it's the Far Right Disease. Those mental illnesses are the root of it all.
@@EvgeniyYakushev-m2u looks like you got your timeframe straight from RT. Nice try, but there are a lot of video evidence which contradicts the official 18 minute claimed by russia. But seeing your profile I understand why you spread russian propaganda here.
Thanks as always for your rational thought process. Unlike some RUclipsrs tapping into conspiracies easily without any evidence or reasoning. Your point this playing into FSB’s hands is spot on. (“We just can’t know what is true and what really happened! “😑)
Maybe that's the reason it's great. He got a "real job" that requires intelligence and actual military analysis skills. Glad he gives us some real food for thought when he gets the time.
Thank you for your thoughtful professional reasoning in this appalling war. It is useful to have your voice in helping us to analyze the complex mixed messages of this conflict.
I think your analysis is absolutely brilliant...it's just one thing I can't wrap my head around..has it ever happened that Isis terrorists did this kind of attack for money?? ...this is the first time I have heard of any terrorist linked to any Islamic terrorist group doing an attack for payment...they do it for martyrdom or their relatives get paid...never that they themselves get paid.. ..or am I wrong?
It's not inconceivable that Russia would have a motive to _say_ they were paid, so they can suggest they were not actually ISIS, but paid by Ukraine/US/UK.
but did they do this attack to become martyrers? Obviously not, otherwise they wouldnt be alive anymore. i think It was just a way to make money to finance their terror organisation
Russia army is NOT a joke. Unfortunately. They make mistakes. A lot of mistakes. But they are learning from their mistakes and they are getting better. If you want to to win, you should not underestimate your enemy.
Anders, again, povides the most concise analysis, with the appropriate level of "we just don't know" and thinking beyond just the first step in a thought process.
I'll insist the Crocus City killers were working for the Kremlin until someone explains why the police never set up a perimeter to prevent the gunmen from escaping. That is just one of the many discrepancies in the Kremlin's story: Too many to count.
I don't think this was a false flag in the traditional sense. What I think might have happened is the Russians, when warned something was likely to happen, chose to look the other way, knowing they could spin it. So they had their local forces go somewhere else and allowed the attack they saw as something they could spin on Ukraine.
I agree 90 minutes of carnage and then they drove away in the same car that they arrived in while national guard was 5 minutes drive and a police station was 5 minutes walk away. “Let it happen and then spin it to justify mobilization. “
Thank you, Anders Puck Nielsen, for sharing your analysis with us. I read a helpful comment earlier today on the authorities' incapacity to quickly get the situation under control (contrary to the quick response whenever a blank sign is held up in the streets). It stated that guaranteeing regime security is something quite different than protecting the common people. 🇺🇦 Перемоги і миру всім українцям! 🇺🇦
Thank you for comments and insight! Is Putin incompetent? Well, lets use Hanlon's razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"
I tend to agree, but mostly because it took so long for the Russians to formulate a response. However, I really wanted to comment to thank you for these analysis videos. It is refreshing to see a calm, rational, and well-informed voice in a sea of talking heads.
Yes, I have been annoyed that so many of us Westerners choose to talk about FF because there is another message that hurts Putin much more: 1) Everyone agrees it's ISIS, 2) We need to show some sympathy for ordinary Russians, 3) We find it strange that Putin does nothing about ISIS after the attack. Please, everyone focus on this.
Only Russia has done false flags before - be it direct false flags or allowing terrorists to carry out attacks (school attack in Beslan). All allow Putin to tighten his grip and pass new laws. In this instance: mobilisation.
The troops took their precious time getting ready. "They have guns? I think I need a shower before I get dressed, you go on ahead..." "No, I have to polish my boots before I get ready..."
My immediate thought... maybe not 'false flag' but rather 'permissive flag'... I just made up the term but I guess you might get what I mean... i.e. rather than planning the operation, more just "not preventing" it.
This was my first thought, but the scale, slow response and no connection to Ukraine tells me otherwise. This in no way makes Putin out to be the "the good guy" for Russians. It smells like sheer incompetence where he clutches at straws to blame Ukraine or the US after the fact just to shift blame.
One big tell for me was the speed at which the US announced that it was an ISIS attack. How could they be so sure it was ISIS and not Ukraine if, in fact, it was the Russians?
How is it possible, at all, that the police didn't come to aid them in 90minutes? Especially when the headquarter is just down the road from the theater? That doesn't sound like incompetency, that seems like not going there on purpose, no?
It’s possible that the attack itself wasn’t a false flag, but the security service allowed it to happen to exploit it politically. That’s certainly what they’re currently doing. I suspect the same strategy was used by Israel.
@@fridrekr7510 The attack makes Putin look bad. Certainly possible that the delay could have been deliberate, and easy enough to blame on incompetence, by an actor within the Kremlin who is seeking to weaken Putin. The again, Hanlon's Razor, where a simple explanation of incompetence beats more convoluted explanations. And of course we have seen much ruzzian incompetence over the years. However, I'm not saying you're wrong.
@@andi93 After the first attack on Belgorod by the FRL, Russia placed HMMWV wrecks on a road, took photos and claimed, FRL used them to cross the border. So, a photo of a car says nothing. The arrest in the forest also seems weird, dense trees, no landmarks so it could be anywhere and it looked like he was surrounded by police, as in "Run into the forest there, so we can arrest you on video or else".
@@pnwdrifter5680or incompetence in organising a false flag operation? I am no expert, but usually ISIS uses some religious zealots to carry out its attacks, not hired guns . And the attackers carried out the attack with military efficiency, then ran away, did not have another car, someplace to lay low...
The opposite, if russia planned it, there would be more pagentry, a blockade, a standoff , a raid, and an ends justify the means narrative. The police would have arrived in 5 to ten minutes, the response to the attack suggests they were caught with their pants down. Im sorry to say , after syria, ISIS has an axe to grind
No, I think his model can be summed up as: did an event make the Putin regime look bad? Or did it seem "too good to be true" in terms of how well it fit with their prepared narratives and their response to the events, i.e., did it make them look REALLY good. According to Commander Nielsen's hypothesis, we predict the latter when a false flag is to blame and the former when one is not to blame. Furthermore, Commander Nielsen argues that if the events make the Putin regime look bad then we can justifiably be skeptical it was a false flag. IMHO this is a logical fallacy. The model he advocates is useful for establishing suspicion of a false flag in the "too good to be true" case, but because of incompetence or just random chance, even a "well-planned" false flag operation could wind up making the Putin regime look bad.
Probably not. It doesn't look great for Putin. Not completely off he table, but personally I doubt it. Also I'd wait for another day or two before trying to asses.
Incompetence of the Russian security forces and hence weakness of the regime is one of possible counter narratives, as suggested in the video. The other is that the Russian security apparatus knew everything, after all if the Americans knew, the FSB was in the know too. However, they allowed this to happen as the top brass were coopted by the west and are working to undermine the regime. Their assets and families are in the west and they cut the deal. The theme of betrayal from within is powerful inside the Russian psyche, after all they think USSR didn't collapse but was destroyed deliberately from within. Why not feed this strand
People who are proactive say, avoid large gatherings as something is up. People who are reactive say, we caught someone who probably did something. People who don’t know the difference lay flowers as a sign of being powerless.
I am a subscriber to your channel but I never get notifications when you upload a video. I do get them from other channels, and your video appears in the flow, luckily enough. You should start a newsletter where people can register to get an email with a direct link when you release a video.
In the same building just beside the concert hall there is a huge police station. There were almost no security present wich is uncommon. Metal detectors at the entraces were not active that evening. Sprinkler systems were not active either. Security arrived more than an hour later. ....
Absolutely agree. This story will completely disappear from Russian media by the end of this week. I lived many years in Russia and the incompetence of "on the ground authorities" are mind-blowing.
😂 It’s so ridiculous of Putin to claim that the terrorists were on their way to Ukraine. As if there was only one destination that could be reached on this highway. The closest Ukrainian border is about 500km (7.5 hours) from Moscow. Claiming that they were on their way to Ukraine is like claiming that I was on my way to the supermarket because I was walking down the hallway in my apartment. Does he really think someone will be dull enough to believe this?
Do you know where these people got arrested? Do you know how they came there and what happened while they were driving? Do you know why russian authorities waited with arresting and followed their car for many hours ??
If it was not a false flag operation and was a real terrorist attack combined with Russian incompetence and on top of that the people arrested weren't the terrorists responsible then that means that the real terrorists are still walking around free knowing that they got away with the worst terrorist attack in Russia in decades and those people who hired them or directed them and planned the terrorist attack will know that they succeeded without having anyone captured and that would embolden them to launch future terrorist attacks in Russia. Having a series of such terrorist attacks happen in Russia would not be good for Putin's reputation in Russia. Given that so many Russian men have been sent to the front in Ukraine or have fled the country or have been recruited into the Russian arms industry thus creating a shortage of Russian workers I wonder if that has reduced the number of young Russian men available to do basic security in Russian cities.
Seems like a pretty good analysis, as usual, Mr. Nielsen. I appreciate that because it's sometimes difficult to get through all the media noise around Ukraine to get a thoughtful view on it.
What I've heard they were driving to Belarus. There is this statement that the Belarusian authorities already boasted with having helped arrested the terrorists.
The closest thing to an authocracy is comedy... The truth has no effect in an authocraty. Putin says something, people believe it (or act as they believe it) and a course of action is taken.
False flag, or not, two major questions stands open: 1. In Moscow, capital of the Russia, country in war, home of Russian security services, where on mention of an antiwar subject, one is summoned and arrested, group of uniformed and armed people, walks in concert hall, where over 6000 people gathered and for over 30 minutes, unchallenged by any government force, executes civilians.... HOW? 2. After almost an hour, of unchallenged massacre, they walks out and leaves the area, without any stops in and around Moscow (emergency check points...)... HOW?
I had the same thoughts about the "suspects" who were captured, tortured and admitted to conducting the attack. I think that more than likely, they are innocent Tajikistanis who were working in Moscow and a convenient arrest target. The fact that they were tortured means they would admit to anything to have the torture stop. The government of Tajikistan is not happy with Russia right now, saying that they didn't believe the terrorists are Tajikistanis, so if videos surface showing that the true terrorists were successful in escaping back to Afghanistan, then it will be interesting to see how the Tajikistani government handles the matter of "innocent" Tajikistani citizens being arrested and tortured by the Russians. The next question that may need to be answered is how long it took for the police to respond, especially since some on the web are saying that there was a police station literally a few blocks away.
I didn't go with the false flag operation at first, but then I saw the video of the concert hall, and the men in blue...? But then it didn't make sense this being a false flag when as you said, Putin would not have handled this so bad if that was the case.
After I recorded this video, Putin said that the perpetrators of the attack were Islamic fundamentalists, but that they were somehow sponsored by the United States. It doesn't change my point in the video, but it does show the scope of competing narratives that they are floating.
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Very good point, Anders, and thanks for sharing!
Regardless, the parallels between this horrific attack and earlier Putin black flag ops from his early days as Russian president is either supremely ironic or telling
It's the satanist gay west nazi islamist jew president dictatorship regime.
😂 Sorry if I miss one of the titles.
I disagree with the assessment... I'm almost positive the FSB posed as ISIS on the web, recruited and supplied another ISIS cell and then quickly picked them up after the hit. Clean and easy... Listen to the interviews with the prisoners! Their answers would fit my theory perfectly! They even name the dude that contacted them!
@@mcbriteAlso the very slow response of the Police Special Forces is very bizarre. They claim it was due to the traffic at the time. Don't they have other transportation means? There are those things called helicopters, I've heard...
As has been said before, "Never ascribe to conspiracy what is adequately explained by incompetence".
It's so cute that Anders is defending the ruzzian regime and their capability of being laughably incompetent. 👍😁
never deny conspiracy just to spit on the idea of there being a conspiracy
@@pupper5580 Never spit on incompetence just to put forward conspiracy, either
Hmmm interesting how some of u really can’t handle how competent the Russians really are. Instead of loosing the war like you all keep saying- Russia slowly but surely is competently seeing their strategy through while Ukraine is showing more and more of their incompetence. The exact opposite of what you Ukraine supporters keep proclaiming.
@mx5am945 Eh, that's a half truth at best. Russia's strategy is working, but at a far higher cost in lives and material than would've been the case otherwise. It has learned from tactical and operational mistakes, but only very slowly. And it's having to use attrition warfare against a relatively poor, Eastern European country that it outnumbers 5:1.
Not really anything to celebrate, bud.
Agree. Also, it was clear to me that the Kremlin was stunned into a day or two of silence. If this was false flag they would have been prepared to talk about it from the start.
You're forgetting this is a country without toilets😂
@@dpelpalThat's ridiculous. If Russia lacked toilets or centralized sewage facilities, then where does state media get all of their material?
@@CAPSLOCKPUNDIT The FSB just dumps all their poop in the Kremlin. Hey, probably makes the place smell better.
They had their points ready: blame Ukraine. What happened was the "hired gun" were actual radicals and front ran the regime giving credit to is. Now the regime is doing damage control.
@@dpelpal
No wonder India and Russia get along so well.
It wasn't a false flag.
Just good ole' Standard Russian incompetence.
Did good ole' Standard Russian incompetence create the largest nuclear weapon arsenal in the world?
What do you expect from a country without toilets😂
@@dpelpal The land of contrasts: the largest nuclear weapon arsenal globally and yet no toilets.
@@traumvonhaiti Russia probably stripped their nuclear weapons for parts and sold them on ebay to buy food in the 1990s😂😂😂
Seems implausible if it was incompetence. They were warned multiple times in advance and their special forces were right there across the street but did nothing for an hour, sorry, were "driving around for an hour". ISIS suspects somehow "captured" but didn't blow themselves up like literally all other ISIS terrorists? .....
Like the school attack, the false flags are attacks that were allowed to happen: not that they were 100% fake.
It may not look the gov look "good" but its the response that Putin wants: mobilisation.
In the 2017 London Bridge terrorist attack, an armed group of London policemen (led by an officer with a Polish name if I remember correctly) arrived just eight minutes after the attack began. But in Moscow, it took the police some 90 minutes to arrive - despite the fact that a large police station was just minutes away. That seems very slow
Because it’s a mere terrorist attack, if it’s a protest against the presidential election results they would have arrive in 10 minutes
Agreed, it doesn’t take more than a few minutes to get gear on and get there. The fire engines were particularly late to arrive too.
Putler made this , he are just a War criminal rat , in a terrorist State
There’s a video of a policeman walking with his k9 during the attack. Everyone was running in panic and him was acting like if was another day on the job.
Indeed. Anders says they aren't just sitting around with their gear on ready to go. In the UK, they certainly aren't just sitting around. They are patrolling. There are vans full of armed police officers driving around London day and night. That's how they were able to respond in eight minutes. That's what competent police forces do.
If a dog craps is the street, Putler will blame Ukraine.😂
He's gonna take _KYIV IN THREE DAYS!_
How do you tell where the shit stops and the Russia starts?
@@jmjones7897 With russia's lack of indoor plumbing and toilets, the s*** is everywhere😂😂😂😂
It was a Jewish-nazi-islamo-facist dog sponsored by NATO
@@dpelpal putler couldn't wipe his arse in three days, let alone take Kyiv 😂
The Kremlin's refrain reminds me of "Blame Canada, blame Canada. It seems like everything's gone wrong since Canada came along ... They're not even a real country, anyway." That level of detail and opportunism.
Someone should create an AI version of Putin singing "Blame Ukraine", maybe open AI Sora will do it :)
(Verse 1) When things go wrong, as they sometimes will, When the news just makes you want to spill, Why look at ourselves, reflecting on our own mistakes? Just find a far-off place and give a shake!(Chorus) Blame Ukraine! Blame Ukraine! With their borscht and their beautiful plains, For all our problems, they're the ones to claim, So let's all point our fingers and Blame Ukraine!
(Verse 2) Is your Internet slow, or your coffee too plain? Does your boss nag you, is it gonna rain? Forget common sense, just take the easy lane, Throw up your hands and loudly exclaim -(Chorus) Blame Ukraine! Blame Ukraine! For the traffic jam and the uncaught train, For every little thing that drives us insane, It's much easier to just Blame Ukraine!(Bridge) Oh, it's not about logic, or being fair or right, It's about finding a scapegoat in plain sight. Why face our troubles, why deal with our pain, When we've got a perfectly good Ukraine?(Chorus) Blame Ukraine! Blame Ukraine! For the lost keys and the unexplained stain, For every hiccup in life's fast lane, Just shrug and simply Blame Ukraine!(Outro) So when in doubt, and you need to explain, Why life's not perfect in your little domain, Don't look to yourself, don't take the blame, Join the chorus, and Blame Ukraine!
Maybe if the terrorists had been holding up blank pieces of paper instead of shooting, then the security police might have jumped on them in less than six or seven hours.
Very good remark😂
Funny.
Yes, they took their precious time getting ready. "They have guns? I think I need a shower before I get dressed, you go on ahead..."
"No, I have to polish my boots before I get ready..."
Lmao, it's especially sad that they were even warned by the US and still couldn't find the cell
@@Tuck213 The US knows more about what's going on inside russia then russia does😂😂😂😂
There is a phenomenon in Soviet/post-Soviet countries called "inosmi", literally "foreign media". At some point Soviet special services have realized, that no matter what, apart from really low educated people, more educated class does not trust Soviet newspapers and TV. Even a new year TV show has become a laughing stock, because filled with non-fresh propaganda about success of collective farming.
And they came up with ingenuine way to address that: introduce "foreign media review" into a closed society. You know, all these communist newspapers around the world, blaming America and praising Soviet Union. Some of them were even created just to look foreign. But people trusted it way more than "Pravda" newspaper. Because it came from abroad. KGB really knew how to use internal protest in their favor.
This tactic is utilized in Russia too, when a "famous American expert" "blames America", but likely he doesn't even exist, or more likely, is a Russian expat.
Another side of this medal is mentioned in the video: Russian special services are OK with general public believing that the State is evil. "Ryazan sugar" case hasn't been forgotten, and this plays well for the narrative. Russians are allowed to dislike their state, to be afraid of it, to not trust it, occasionally to protest a bit, so that passionaries are visible to KGB.
But don't you dare to be not afraid. Once you're not afraid, you're in trouble.
What a f***ing nightmare that country is...
I beg to differ about more educated classes not trusting Soviet media. When I was studying at university the place was infested by rather intelligent people who otherwise blindly believed everything Soviet media published and were very busy parroting it to anyone who would listen.
Interesting take. Now the NYT et al publishing pro Russia and (more recently) pro Chinese "news" makes a little more sense to me. You don't even need to control a whole outlet, you just need one journalist who can publish what you need. It's a shame domestic media in the west isn't also seen as a joke.
@@mikethespike7579a university outside or inside USSR?
It's called "inferiority complex"
As per usual, you make the most sense about a situation. Thank you.
4:50 "And it does not make sense for me that the perpetrators would drive towards the Ukrainian border after getting away from the crime scene, because the Ukrainian border really is the area in all of Russia where there is the most military and there is the strongest border protection."
Good point, now that you mention it 👍
I agree, and this is what I posted when the news came out. I'm not European [except by ancestry], and not military [though I have, occasionally, taught in military schools], but I have enough Middle East and East Asian experience to have reasonable doubts about what has happened, who did it, and what the Russian Imperial government is doing to massage the news. Thanks for your always intelligent and credible videos.
And thank you for a thoughtful and sensible comment. Cheers from Denmark.
I agree with the main points of the presentation....that it was incompetence and not a false flag operation. It will also be likely to Russia will try to put a lid on things as soon as they can and not give an accurate account of what actually happened. Another expert on Russia said recently in an interview that they ALWAYS have incomplete investigations into terrorist attacks in Russia and never get to the bottom of exactly what happened. I do think the guys they caught were the ones involved because the clothes are the same etc as the ones doing the attack and the fact that ISIS published a video with body cam footage etc that seems to confirm that it was an ISIS operation. The escape route does not make sense, and we probably won't be able to get the truth on that since Russia wants it to look like they were heading for Ukraine where they could be helped to escape.
If those were the guys, how did they manage to drive the same car used in the attack all the way to where ever they were caught (Belarus, some where near Ukrainian border...). More epic incompetence by the ruZZians.
@@TB-zf7weit is more likely that those terrorists were caught early and the police organized their « capture » somewhere else…
@@chefchaudard3580 Putler in his rantings mentioned these terrorist were going for an escape window. We know how much he likes windows.
Does it really matter if this will inevitably still be used to justify more attacks against Ukrainian civilians? If it was a false flag, people died and that will be used to justify more death, if it wasn't, people died and that will be used to justify more death.
@@HandleMyBallsRUclips Putin will always find justification to his acts. Whatever we do or don’t do, say or don’t say.
If he needs a justification, he just makes it.
Your thoughts and insight are always very much appreciated! Greetings and thanks From Germany!
The fact it took so long for the security services to respond just proves what you're saying. They're set up to respond to things like protests where they can prepare in advance, not sudden unexpected crimes like this one.
It took them 90 minutes to sober up?
@laars0001 It took them like 90 minutes to prepare the act. Putin busy phoning also was an act.
They were in the bunker until shooting stopped.
The 90-minute (or whatever long length it was) delay does NOT prove what he is saying.
It is a piece of info that can be argued to support different interpretations of what happened.
Yours is one interpretation, but it’s not the only way to look at it.
Just chiming in to encourage better use of logic & critical thinking.
Wasn't unexpected at all, and the OMON SWAT / Rosgvardia base is a 3.16km drive on a single straight road, with lights on would take 5 minutes if urgent.
Youre the most sober analyst on youtube. Thanks for the content.
Unfortunately, nobody is sober in russia. Or has a toilet. Or can take "Kyiv in THREE DAYS!"😂😂😂
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Unfortunately a sober sociopath in a land of drunkards has morphed into a 21st century Tsar....and Ukraine is paying the price 😢
@@reneblom2160 But the entire world loves to laugh at russia
Sober... yet utterly wrong. He suggested Ukraine would win in the long run, win certain battles, Russia was running out of arms etc. He sounds plausible but follow what he has said in the past, and remember.
I agree that this attack was not a false flag, but Putin has shown that he is not afraid to use such tactics in the past. The 1999 Russian apartment bombing come to mind. In September of 1999, apartment buildings in Moscow, Buynaksk, and Volgodonsk (this is all on Wiki) were struck by bombs causing 1,300 casualties. Read the section "Ryazan incident (FSB exercises "Ryazan sugar")" for details about that averted bombing. Also interesting that Duma speaker Gennadiy Seleznyov announced the Volgodonsk bombing 3 days before it happened. So, the false flag idea is not crazy, it just does not fit this scenario.
Having been part of the US military, the idea that an agency might try exercises mimicking real events while those events are happening, is completely believable.
Antiterrorist unit is located 8-10 minutes away from the concert hall. Antiterrorist units by default are to be ready 24/7 same as firefighters. Yet in Russia it took them and hour to get there.
Also there is a policestation just next to the consert hall. You would think they at least could have tried to stop them when they were escaping the scene.
Yes, because none of the terrorists said "No to the war!". Or they didn't hold a "❤️ Navalny" sign. The retribution is instantaneous for those.
I would've been very surprised to hear something else from you. Great to see myself on your side once more.
Thanks so much Anders, this was needed!
What a shitty time we all are stuck in.
As opposed to all of those other times, which were pure utopia? It's a shitty species that we're stuck in. As long as human nature exists, there will be lots of horrible things to deal with.
I’ve been waiting for your analysis ! Thank you for sharing !
Outstanding explanation of your reasoning. Thank you again for being a voice of intellect and reason when it comes to the Ukrainian struggle.
Agree completely. It's not a false flag operation.
Brilliant analysis.
Security services might have held back because they didn't want to head into danger. They're not in security to take risks, but to be in a higher caste.
I don't buy the idea that a "SWAT Team" needs time to first have a shower, put on nice clean uniform, get on parade for inspection, maybe run around this or that tree, if someone's laces aren't tied symmetrically, go to the gas station, fill up with petrol, ... you get my point?
And every city on Earth has "Flying Squad" / SWAT Team situations that need to be planned for, just like it needs a fire brigade that doesn't first have to get approval signed off in triplicate by the guy who's currently on lunch (sorry ...) ... or ambulances that stand in the parking lot, while the crew are called in from home ... ( ... ) ...
Looks to me like actually protecting people is not part of Putin's plan to put everyone at ease by keeping them safe and secure, just as if he was their big, strong Daddy. I think this "protection" thing is just a pretense? What he keeps safe is his bunker.
(Just picking up on a theory I've heard doing the rounds that makes a lot of sense to me. The security apparatus exists entirely to serve one man, hence the failure to respond as quickly as, say, ... a SWAT Team would?)
I mean imagine a gunman started going crazy in the busiest part of Copenhagen on the busiest day of the year, and the police only rocked up an hour later, after he'd run out of victims to kill. Would everyone say something like, "Give the poor guys a break. They need time to get ready"? Or would the Chief of Police be in a bit of trouble the very next day?
Well, it’s hard to imagine something like this in Denmark, because in Norway, which is extremely close to you, Breivik killed people for more than 70 minutes.
@@EvgeniyYakushev-m2uFrom what I read on Wikipedia it sounds like the Norwegian "SWAT Team" was on its way by road to the island about 8 minutes or so from the time the shooting started. (And that shooting wasn't at a stadium on major roads, not far from their base.)
@@sicko_the_ew The island is about 40 minutes from Oslo. The police in Russia also arrived much earlier than the time you call. The anti-terrorist detachment is SOBR, someone gave you incorrect information regarding their base.
@@EvgeniyYakushev-m2uAnyway, I suppose the possibly slow response isn't what murdered all those innocent people, so the real problem here is the ISIS Disease, and in the Norwegian case, it's the Far Right Disease. Those mental illnesses are the root of it all.
@@EvgeniyYakushev-m2u looks like you got your timeframe straight from RT. Nice try, but there are a lot of video evidence which contradicts the official 18 minute claimed by russia. But seeing your profile I understand why you spread russian propaganda here.
Thanks as always for your rational thought process. Unlike some RUclipsrs tapping into conspiracies easily without any evidence or reasoning. Your point this playing into FSB’s hands is spot on. (“We just can’t know what is true and what really happened! “😑)
I pretty much agree with this analysis. I always find Anders Puck Nielsen’s analysis well reasoned and well presented.
Your channel is great. I wish more videos would come out.
Maybe that's the reason it's great. He got a "real job" that requires intelligence and actual military analysis skills.
Glad he gives us some real food for thought when he gets the time.
@@grandroyal66 agree. However maybe he can go work part-time ;)
@@basvleeskruyer He already does, his book writing didn't go so well, so youtube view's is pretty much most of his "salary".
In the end he is a reliable source in a world full of biased information. Im ver much pro Ukraine but dont need Fairy Tales and wishful thinking.
@@basvleeskruyer Reliable as a source of confirmation bias.
Thank you for your thoughtful professional reasoning in this appalling war. It is useful to have your voice in helping us to analyze the complex mixed messages of this conflict.
This is a good point. I hope people stop arguing and realize how much Russia lies and that it's pointless to listen to them.
This was an insightful, highly rational, educational, thought-provoking & very helpful discussion Anders! Thank you! 👍👍
or in short : It was very Anders-like !
I think your analysis is absolutely brilliant...it's just one thing I can't wrap my head around..has it ever happened that Isis terrorists did this kind of attack for money?? ...this is the first time I have heard of any terrorist linked to any Islamic terrorist group doing an attack for payment...they do it for martyrdom or their relatives get paid...never that they themselves get paid.. ..or am I wrong?
It's not inconceivable that Russia would have a motive to _say_ they were paid, so they can suggest they were not actually ISIS, but paid by Ukraine/US/UK.
but did they do this attack to become martyrers? Obviously not, otherwise they wouldnt be alive anymore. i think It was just a way to make money to finance their terror organisation
Russia's military is the biggest joke on the planet. _KYIV IN THREE DAYS!_ 😂
Russia army is NOT a joke. Unfortunately. They make mistakes. A lot of mistakes. But they are learning from their mistakes and they are getting better. If you want to to win, you should not underestimate your enemy.
@@computerkid5315 Right, and Russia gonna take Kyiv in 3 days!😂😂😂
Ah, that bot again with its canned comments about the "joke". Just check its history on this channel...
@@neithere Just check Russia's history and you will find a joke military😂😂😂😂
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Anders, again, povides the most concise analysis, with the appropriate level of "we just don't know" and thinking beyond just the first step in a thought process.
Tak Anders
I'll insist the Crocus City killers were working for the Kremlin until someone explains why the police never set up a perimeter to prevent the gunmen from escaping. That is just one of the many discrepancies in the Kremlin's story: Too many to count.
As always, clear, calm, reasoned and persuasive. A good investment of 9'. Thanks.
"I made a video about what to look for in a false flag operation about a year ago..."
Me: "I was there Gandalf, I was there 3000 years ago"
Thanks for your analysis as always. Also special thanks for turning down the volume on your intro bumper ;)
Thanks for sharing your professional assessment on these events.
Another splendid analysis 😊
I don't think this was a false flag in the traditional sense. What I think might have happened is the Russians, when warned something was likely to happen, chose to look the other way, knowing they could spin it.
So they had their local forces go somewhere else and allowed the attack they saw as something they could spin on Ukraine.
it's called ' passive false flag '
Have you seen the latest from Jake Broe? He’s posted some fairly convincing video on an FSB officer at Crocus and then arresting a terrorist.
I agree 90 minutes of carnage and then they drove away in the same car that they arrived in while national guard was 5 minutes drive and a police station was 5 minutes walk away.
“Let it happen and then spin it to justify mobilization. “
Your point about the Russian state being designed to protect itself against its own citizens rather than external threats is an interesting one
Thank you, Anders Puck Nielsen, for sharing your analysis with us. I read a helpful comment earlier today on the authorities' incapacity to quickly get the situation under control (contrary to the quick response whenever a blank sign is held up in the streets). It stated that guaranteeing regime security is something quite different than protecting the common people.
🇺🇦 Перемоги і миру всім українцям! 🇺🇦
Thank you for comments and insight! Is Putin incompetent? Well, lets use Hanlon's razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"
But he's gonna take _"Kyiv in THREE DAYS!"_ 😂😂😂
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@@reneblom2160you’re no less annoying than he is.
@@morstyrannis1951 I get easily annoyed by copy & paste commentators. But I seem to have made my point, so there will be no more "
Who were all the men dressed in blue that were in no hurry to leave the theater when it was under attack?
I tend to agree, but mostly because it took so long for the Russians to formulate a response. However, I really wanted to comment to thank you for these analysis videos. It is refreshing to see a calm, rational, and well-informed voice in a sea of talking heads.
Good rational thinking. Thank you Anders.
I'm definitely shocked there's no shame in showing tortured suspects anymore. Everyone knew off course. But showing it as a normal thing is scary
I’m definitely shocked that Britain and America have no shame in supporting Zelensky …
Yes, I have been annoyed that so many of us Westerners choose to talk about FF because there is another message that hurts Putin much more: 1) Everyone agrees it's ISIS, 2) We need to show some sympathy for ordinary Russians, 3) We find it strange that Putin does nothing about ISIS after the attack. Please, everyone focus on this.
Only Russia has done false flags before - be it direct false flags or allowing terrorists to carry out attacks (school attack in Beslan). All allow Putin to tighten his grip and pass new laws. In this instance: mobilisation.
Sympathy? Putler’s popularity went up after attack..
1) ISIS was never mentioned during investigation, nobody believes that American crap. 2) They do not need sympathy from people like you. 3) See 1).
@@guylancaster2055People often rally around the flag after such attacks. The younger Mr Bush also had his popularity rise after 9/11.
@@guylancaster2055How would you know that? Some spectacularly fast opinion poll? Sources please.
The troops took their precious time getting ready. "They have guns? I think I need a shower before I get dressed, you go on ahead..."
"No, I have to polish my boots before I get ready..."
Thank you. Very helpful.
My immediate thought... maybe not 'false flag' but rather 'permissive flag'... I just made up the term but I guess you might get what I mean... i.e. rather than planning the operation, more just "not preventing" it.
If that was the case Putin would not have made a fool of himself by trashing on the US intelligence brief they got.
This was my first thought, but the scale, slow response and no connection to Ukraine tells me otherwise. This in no way makes Putin out to be the "the good guy" for Russians. It smells like sheer incompetence where he clutches at straws to blame Ukraine or the US after the fact just to shift blame.
Agree. Another take could be "false flag planned to make the Putin regime look really good which just went wrong for various reasons."
One big tell for me was the speed at which the US announced that it was an ISIS attack.
How could they be so sure it was ISIS and not Ukraine if, in fact, it was the Russians?
thanks for your good and helpful work, Anders. in a world gone mad your analysis provides orientation and makes sense.
How is it possible, at all, that the police didn't come to aid them in 90minutes? Especially when the headquarter is just down the road from the theater? That doesn't sound like incompetency, that seems like not going there on purpose, no?
Exactly… and how could they get that far with the car? I don‘t believe it
It’s possible that the attack itself wasn’t a false flag, but the security service allowed it to happen to exploit it politically. That’s certainly what they’re currently doing. I suspect the same strategy was used by Israel.
@@fridrekr7510 The attack makes Putin look bad. Certainly possible that the delay could have been deliberate, and easy enough to blame on incompetence, by an actor within the Kremlin who is seeking to weaken Putin.
The again, Hanlon's Razor, where a simple explanation of incompetence beats more convoluted explanations.
And of course we have seen much ruzzian incompetence over the years. However, I'm not saying you're wrong.
@@andi93 After the first attack on Belgorod by the FRL, Russia placed HMMWV wrecks on a road, took photos and claimed, FRL used them to cross the border. So, a photo of a car says nothing. The arrest in the forest also seems weird, dense trees, no landmarks so it could be anywhere and it looked like he was surrounded by police, as in "Run into the forest there, so we can arrest you on video or else".
@@pnwdrifter5680or incompetence in organising a false flag operation? I am no expert, but usually ISIS uses some religious zealots to carry out its attacks, not hired guns . And the attackers carried out the attack with military efficiency, then ran away, did not have another car, someplace to lay low...
As always, right on target
The best analysis about this subject. Thanks. Greetings from Romania.
You make some good points. I must admit our response to the Manchester concert bombing was every bit as incompetent as what we have seen in Moscow.
Thank you for your insight. I always appreciate your explanations and the way you convey them.
I learned a new expression today - false flag.
Basically Mr. Nielsen is saying that a Russian false-flag operation needs to be amateur-hour, but still show a clear intent and purpose.
Russian army is such a joke it's always amateur hour lol
The russians are very competent in the art of being incompetent.
The opposite, if russia planned it, there would be more pagentry, a blockade, a standoff , a raid, and an ends justify the means narrative.
The police would have arrived in 5 to ten minutes, the response to the attack suggests they were caught with their pants down.
Im sorry to say , after syria, ISIS has an axe to grind
No, I think his model can be summed up as: did an event make the Putin regime look bad? Or did it seem "too good to be true" in terms of how well it fit with their prepared narratives and their response to the events, i.e., did it make them look REALLY good. According to Commander Nielsen's hypothesis, we predict the latter when a false flag is to blame and the former when one is not to blame.
Furthermore, Commander Nielsen argues that if the events make the Putin regime look bad then we can justifiably be skeptical it was a false flag. IMHO this is a logical fallacy. The model he advocates is useful for establishing suspicion of a false flag in the "too good to be true" case, but because of incompetence or just random chance, even a "well-planned" false flag operation could wind up making the Putin regime look bad.
no ,,he says that the evidence will be amateur like
I wouldn’t be very surprised if it turned out that a fair percentage of the surveillance cameras they have in Moscow turn out to be cheap lookalikes.
i hear ya anders, those pro rus mod bots getting out of control
thx for your take
They're so confused, they don't know whether to take Tehran or Kyiv in THREE DAYS lol
@@dpelpal 👏👏
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This video plays in favor of russia bots because the false flag theory is completely dismantled here
The Russian "security" departments are very good at repression, not security.
Thanks!
I do wonder whether the guys who appeared in court are the real culprits or not. Haven't reviewed the footage so couldn't say for sure.
Thanks Anders. 👌
More common sense from Anders. Thank you and keep up the good work.
Can't wait for you to apologize for all the false info
What false info do you mean ?
@@ABCBCNMthat Ukraine was/could win this
Probably not. It doesn't look great for Putin. Not completely off he table, but personally I doubt it. Also I'd wait for another day or two before trying to asses.
What _does_ look great for putin? The entire russian military is now laughed at, russia is the world's joke military at this point lol
He wears heels to appear taller, so I would say its completely off the table.
@@rutgerbPutin only 5 foot 3 lol. But he gonna take KYIV IN THREE DAYS!😂😂😂
The time is over, Putin affraid of the russian peoble.
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Incompetence of the Russian security forces and hence weakness of the regime is one of possible counter narratives, as suggested in the video. The other is that the Russian security apparatus knew everything, after all if the Americans knew, the FSB was in the know too. However, they allowed this to happen as the top brass were coopted by the west and are working to undermine the regime. Their assets and families are in the west and they cut the deal. The theme of betrayal from within is powerful inside the Russian psyche, after all they think USSR didn't collapse but was destroyed deliberately from within. Why not feed this strand
Tell us about Putin's terminal illness and death within months... Oops that was two years ago. RUclips not paying Eurobot shocker.😂
People who are proactive say, avoid large gatherings as something is up. People who are reactive say, we caught someone who probably did something. People who don’t know the difference lay flowers as a sign of being powerless.
the hour delay was because they had to find enough body armor that was not just made from cardboard
I am a subscriber to your channel but I never get notifications when you upload a video. I do get them from other channels, and your video appears in the flow, luckily enough. You should start a newsletter where people can register to get an email with a direct link when you release a video.
In the same building just beside the concert hall there is a huge police station.
There were almost no security present wich is uncommon.
Metal detectors at the entraces were not active that evening.
Sprinkler systems were not active either.
Security arrived more than an hour later.
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yes.. that tells me FSB was involved,!!
@@W3c16BOr perhaps an anti Putin ruSSian clique seeking to embarrass the Tsar. Which could, of course, simply be the FSB.
Absolutely agree. This story will completely disappear from Russian media by the end of this week. I lived many years in Russia and the incompetence of "on the ground authorities" are mind-blowing.
😂 It’s so ridiculous of Putin to claim that the terrorists were on their way to Ukraine. As if there was only one destination that could be reached on this highway. The closest Ukrainian border is about 500km (7.5 hours) from Moscow. Claiming that they were on their way to Ukraine is like claiming that I was on my way to the supermarket because I was walking down the hallway in my apartment.
Does he really think someone will be dull enough to believe this?
Do you know where these people got arrested? Do you know how they came there and what happened while they were driving? Do you know why russian authorities waited with arresting and followed their car for many hours ??
Thank you for clarifying this.
Takk!
If it was not a false flag operation and was a real terrorist attack combined with Russian incompetence and on top of that the people arrested weren't the terrorists responsible then that means that the real terrorists are still walking around free knowing that they got away with the worst terrorist attack in Russia in decades and those people who hired them or directed them and planned the terrorist attack will know that they succeeded without having anyone captured and that would embolden them to launch future terrorist attacks in Russia.
Having a series of such terrorist attacks happen in Russia would not be good for Putin's reputation in Russia.
Given that so many Russian men have been sent to the front in Ukraine or have fled the country or have been recruited into the Russian arms industry thus creating a shortage of Russian workers
I wonder if that has reduced the number of young Russian men available to do basic security in Russian cities.
That channel has changed into a psychological support for Ukraine supporters.
Slava Ukraini! 🇺🇦✊🇬🇧🏴
Inconvenience becomes a dilemma until the next act .
Seems like a pretty good analysis, as usual, Mr. Nielsen. I appreciate that because it's sometimes difficult to get through all the media noise around Ukraine to get a thoughtful view on it.
What I've heard they were driving to Belarus. There is this statement that the Belarusian authorities already boasted with having helped arrested the terrorists.
Gee, Anders. The real question the Ruzzians should ask themselves is: " Why does everybody hate us?"
The closest thing to an authocracy is comedy...
The truth has no effect in an authocraty. Putin says something, people believe it (or act as they believe it) and a course of action is taken.
good points
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False flag, or not, two major questions stands open:
1. In Moscow, capital of the Russia, country in war, home of Russian security services, where on mention of an antiwar subject, one is summoned and arrested, group of uniformed and armed people, walks in concert hall, where over 6000 people gathered and for over 30 minutes, unchallenged by any government force, executes civilians.... HOW?
2. After almost an hour, of unchallenged massacre, they walks out and leaves the area, without any stops in and around Moscow (emergency check points...)... HOW?
Incompetence
Thanks Anders for another clear and well discussed analysis bringing clarity and logic in response to chaotic media and social media comments.
Anders thank you for sharing your opinion and information, great videos!
Great job, as always. Thank you!
I had the same thoughts about the "suspects" who were captured, tortured and admitted to conducting the attack. I think that more than likely, they are innocent Tajikistanis who were working in Moscow and a convenient arrest target. The fact that they were tortured means they would admit to anything to have the torture stop. The government of Tajikistan is not happy with Russia right now, saying that they didn't believe the terrorists are Tajikistanis, so if videos surface showing that the true terrorists were successful in escaping back to Afghanistan, then it will be interesting to see how the Tajikistani government handles the matter of "innocent" Tajikistani citizens being arrested and tortured by the Russians. The next question that may need to be answered is how long it took for the police to respond, especially since some on the web are saying that there was a police station literally a few blocks away.
I didn't go with the false flag operation at first, but then I saw the video of the concert hall, and the men in blue...?
But then it didn't make sense this being a false flag when as you said, Putin would not have handled this so bad if that was the case.
Very interesting information. Especially regarding the false flag narrative. Thank you for making these videos.
Very interesting points of view, food for thought! Thanks Anders.