This is also how you explain dont fucking pay them. Dont buy anything thats super inflated the price will drop when people stop being idiots and buying things that arent a reasonable price. Supply and demand. If the demand drops the supply will get cheaper.
@@palboytg1 No those boots aren't capitalism. Capitalism gives you choices between multiple options and doesn't force you to buy anything. Capitalism is the application of cash to allow someone else to start or run a business; usually in exchange for a share or shares of the profits. Price increases and upselling have been common systems for making money for way longer than capitalism has existed.
@@MarshallPatrick whats the odds managment remembered my feet are size 7 as I doubt company boots have my small size. (I know none of the main stores in town carry small enough work boots for my size)
Pay for safety equipment, only once boss man then I visit a lawyer on my lunch break. They LOVE these cases because they usually settle out of court for big figures.
is this safety equipment or is it the uniform? that makes a difference legally. safety equipment must be provided, uniforms can be charged to the employee. However, if the company is requiring the purchase of those boots because they consider them to be safety equipment then you could have a case. If they just said "these boots are part of the uniform" then you can't do anything about it.
@@jimbeam-ru1my Obviously safety equipment is implied in the video. It also really depends on what state you are in when it comes to Uniform laws. Some will require the employer provide it free of charge, some may allow deductions as long as it doesn't cause the employee to fall below minimum wage. Than there is also the issue of keeping it compliant for those with disabilities. However there is obviously a balance act the company must do as well. Have a huge upfront uniform bill to the employee? Hope you maintain loyal employees. Cause when Joe can join company A with an upfront uniform bill of $300-600 dollars or Company B for free, and they both pay the same rate, Company B is going to be able to fill it's positions alot easier than Company A.
@@jimbeam-ru1my if its their uniform they still pay full costscnot employee. Can't charge for uniforms either shd have to clean selves or pay employees. Its under labor blaws not ohsa about uniforms. Uniforms include if they just require you wear certain lookimgvor floored clothing?. If they say you must dreescinna blackish suit white shirt ree tie wungtipoed black shoes etc they have to pay for all that and the maintenance of it. Lol at you. Absolutely any kind of company requirements must be paid by compajt regardless what it is even your vehicle gas etc if its being used for company. Even delivery drivers get compensated for vehicle use. Lol this includes trying to make employees associates like Walmart did expecting they have to pay for uniforms and other s. Walmart lost two months lost later in S Carolina their home state about that. Lol
@@failegion7828 tell me what states there are where you even pay a cent? Florida example of minimum wage much more to it. Law aksi says you have to include statement that deductions have to be made to pay for uniforms. Know Florida has the best employer labor laws in states by far with Georgia a close second . anyways employers in Florida rather instead start you at a low wage and pay for all the uniform stuff because it ends confusion. When new emoloyees that many got frustrated quit jobs thinking let's say the $12 hr job they had turned out to be a $10 an hour job like yoiu infer above. Not good business practice to have a high employee turnover. As for higher paying employers they almost always pay full cost up front as for semi pro and professional jobs its quite easy for one in demand to say Heff Hugh and go elsewhere. Lol also the FISA law goes in to say if uniform is required by some other law, THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS OR! THE EMPLOYER ( so anything with company logos on it or required color scheme company has to pay for OR if employer wants you to wear a certain style suit because they prefer that again they pay) . this additional clause makes it extremely hard for an employer to actually charge for a uniform. Basic outfit would be rather bland looking. Employer can tell you a general style of clothing to wear but once starts getting specific about things like specific brands color schemes that would clearly reflect his her own bias or that of company logos trade marks or such its employer pays all. He can tell you wear jeans and a t shirt or a business suit age dress shoes but cannot tell you to wear Levis and a G brand cotton to try hush puppies. He cannot say you must wear such and such color scheme. Lol ok? Read all the act before quoting it. Also look at actual hearings. Lol employees win far more than emolyers innflsa uniform costs cases. Employers that win win only on refusal of basic requirement. Oh yeah and cannot make a profit of of uniforms if youre providing them as employer so theres never be a huge difference like youbstatre above. FLSA has a very composite list of what things cost and not just by individual units bit different lot sizes as well. Lol say a required shirt costs $10 if you bought individual listed RSP by t shirt company is $10 a unit. But emoloer gets them in lots for $7 each. Shows tiuba oic on Google saying $10 RSP and tries charging you $10. Lol. Or even better he says I'll deduct some of thstbcost for you. Itsv$7.01. Even that penny would lose him the case. FLSA like any other labor enforcement agency or in fact any go v agency involves some kind of monetary arbitration will have complete RSP lists databases to access. Lol don't matter either if he instead pays more than the RSP. He by law can't charge you more than what he paid or the RSP whatever is lower.
Old hotel I worked at they had us wear white button-up long-sleeved shirts, vest, dark slacks, and black polished shoes (average room price was about 250 bucks in summer, so not THAT fancy of a place). One day, the boss lady told us we needed to buy our new clothes from the company website. I had gotten my clothes at wal-mart, for about 50 bucks an outfit... and suddenly they wanted me to get even cheaper-feeling stuff at about 120 bucks an outfit (sans shoes) and another 100 bucks on shoes. I looked them up online, and showed everyone else. We could order the EXACT SAME from taiwan for about 15 bucks an outfit (5 bucks a shirt, vest and pants). Company was marking it up. Turns out, that was illegal for them to fire me for buying the regulation clothes at a different venue. The hotel here in town is STILL paying out to ex-employees as they get in contact.
Another aspect to consider is jobs forcing to dress "nice". Slacks and dress shirts are not meant to do manual labor in. So if your cleaning rooms and other such task it's very easy to damage or stain a white shirt...
Most places don’t actively try to screw you like this company. Caterpillar gives you a $125 voucher for steel toe slip resistant boots that can be as cheap as fifty. You don’t get the difference so it behooves you to spend it on good boots .
I work in a battery manufacturing plant. We have a guy that always pipes in just like this, started there 32 years ago. Easily his best line was when we ran 1.2 million batteries in a month and they gave us cupcakes. "Maaannnnn cupcake handin out cupcakes..." LOL even the floor managers had to turn away to hide a grin. Keep this kind of content up and you'll be at 200k in no time at all, great stuff man.
I love how manufacturing jobs do the least and think feeding their employees some little shit makes up for all the work they did like the employees will brag to their friends about getting some fucking cupcakes for a month of work.
@@user-uc5tj6ux8wI work with a guy who's been in the company for 20+ years. He doesn't want to be in the office and deal with the office BS. Though he is leadhand for the shift
I've been on the opposite side of this, our company had a string of foot and ankle injuries. They made it a big priority, and assigned me to gigure out the problem, it turned out a bunch of people were wearing the wrong footwear. I suggested we give them a voucher of some sort to get the right boots for the job, and crunched the numbers to show it would save us tens of thousands of dollars in lost time, and workers comp if we worked with a certain well known company that had a redeemable voucher program. They settled on a $300 dollar boot allowance that went on their paycheck instead. 2 months later half the employees still didn't have the right footwear and had blown the money at the bar or strip club that was up the road from us. I of course got the heat for that one, even though they only took half of my advice.
@batboy555 That's actually what I recommended, but they went with money on the checks instead. They thought the employees could get boots, and have a little bonus with any money left over.
I’ve always bought 150 dollar boots, my new job gave me $150 per year for new boots. First time I ever bought $300 boots lol. Employee owned, union friendly, made in America. Go team.🇺🇸
Would like to know, are you referring to Red Wings? Just got my first pair of steel toe, self tightening electrical hazard boots from them and after inserting a Dr Schols insert, I don’t think I will ever go any other work boot of lower quality.
@@krystopherturner3149i’m the same way had other cheap boots and can’t see any reason to go back! Also they have repair service💛 I have two pairs personally I rotate💪
Been wearing wings for 20 years. New pair every 6-12 months. Never had a back problem. Knock on wood. Wanted to love a pair of Thorogoods, but they just didn’t fit my feet like the wings.
This is when you get the mandatory requirement and photo of said boots in writing from the bosses and call OSHA and maybe the union or HR and explain the situation. Punish them for their bullshit.
It is cute that you think the right-wing U.S. government is going to do shit for workers other than, after years of litigation, fine the company some tiny fraction of the money they made on ripping off employees and then call it a day.
@@madscientistlifei do a lot of walking for my job (meaning the soles get worn real fast since I average 30-40 miles a night), and I actually have to go through redwing for regular shoes and work boots anyway (because I have some giant ass, damn flipper feet), but if your boots are only lasting you one year, you're doing something wrong... then again, my work boots tend to last 3-4 years
@MrEli768 3-4 years on one pair of boot is impressive. I'm also driving commercial trucks, working in the shop and climbing up and down the side of a crane at least half a dozen times a day. I just bought me a new pair of Dan Post steel toe slip on in plain black leather because I like to holler at the pretty blonde country girls down there at boot country but maybe next year I'll try something different. Even the cat boots I've worn in years past don't make it a summer. Then again I stay pretty busy 6 days a week.
I once worked at a job that gave us a free pair of boots or shoes every 3 months. Get a paper signed by your supervisor, goto the red wing store and get a brand new pair for free on the company it was a fantastic policy
3 months is quite often, honestly maybe even too often, for the reason that once you're already used to the pair and they're "worn in" to your foot, you're already getting into the new one I mean, it's still great for company to be willing to do such a thing Was it involving hazardous/exceptionally rough terrain/corrosive to certain materials kind of job that warranted such a policy through practical reasons? Or some company big enough for them to consider such a move to be beneficial reputation-wise? Genuinely curious, because well, it's business and it's extremely rare for companies to generate expenses (almost) solely due to "goodness of the heart", and I find it hard to believe that even in construction a pair of proper working boots would get worn out so quickly to such a degree that it warrants a new pair on a quarterly basis
they have to legally due to workers rights regulations that save your ass. Dont thank your company, thank the voters and specific politicians who implemented those regulations.
I fully expected the boots to be from the CEO's cousin's boot store. like in the military we had to buy hammers from some senator's cousin, only half the hammers were assembled right and they cost $500
@@NTJedi I've heard a lot of these "$500 hammer" places are fronts for other things, black projects like the Aurora from the 1990's. they get $500 from my squadron, send a $5 hammer, and the rest goes into a black budget. it's so spread out that it's hard to trace.
@@davesmith3023 they take tax dollars then buy services or products from relatives which overcharge. In my city 20 years ago their relatives construction company was charging $500 to install one speed bump when at the time the cost should have been $75 per speed bump.
@@davesmith3023 broken handles, not secured to the handles, wrong heat treat so it shatters when used, you'd think it's hard to screw up a hammer, but they did it...
This is why i love where i work. They have their own boot store in the plant. You get a slip from your boss and go get a pair 1,2,3 times a year depending on the condition of your boots. Even if they are still okay you can go get a new pair each year. They truly take care of us
They legally have to. It's not out of kindness. It also is just smart, because paying out for workplace injuries is more expensive, once again because regulations make it more expensive. Stop attributing goodness to companies when the goodness comes from good regulations. Support workers rights, because you can see in countries with less, companies do less.
Such saltiness. I happen to work for a company that shows they care in boots and in cash. These companies do exist, and I hope you find yourself at one someday
Good companies exist out there, and these people work for them. Stop having such a preordained fatalist approach to work, trust me it’ll serve you better in the long run if you leave it here
Where I come from if they require a certain type of boot, they have to pay for it. It’s funny for me because I have a big ass foot and they have to special order mine . Couple of hundred dollars every time. 😂
I know that feeling... Of all the footware stores in my area, only redwing has shoes and boots that fit my stupid wide feet (size 13, triple H), and I haven't seen a pair of work boots there, in my size, under $320 (after tax)... apparently I take after my grandpa on my mom's side, because only redwing had his size also, his shoe size was 15 triple E when he died at 72
Aside from the funny skit, investing $4-500 in a good pair of boots can be an amazing thing. My Whites have lasted almost 4 years now with just a little wear on the toe where the steel toebox is. Get you some you won't regret it.
@@MarshallPatrick Depending on your tolerance for decrepit falling apart boots, they tend to be more cost effective. I've had a pair of danner's that I put through hell over 2 years and while I dont wear them for my current job, they'd have held up years more without so much as a restitching. 450 buck boots. But if they last you 6 years of hard work that a cheaper pair might only last 6 months in, they can be similar cost or outright better cost effectiveness. The comfort is another big thing. I could work for 9 hours on my feet in my boots and my feet are not only safe but damn comfy, waterproof, the works. You can get similar quality for less but I bought American made. 400 bucks for 6 years of excellent boots or buy 12 pairs over those 6 years for 50 bucks a pop.
Would love to see a skit where the workers sue the company. And in court the Workers just slam down violation after violation with reference to previous videos. They manage to shut the whole Company down. Then they excitedly go to their new job only to find the new company is doing the same bullshit.
To be fair, the $500 PNW boots out there are the kind you'll wear for the next ten years. Wish I'd gotten a set of them before spending over $1000 on the various $120-$220 big box brands over the years.
@@hamasaken Yeah, I got the satire of it, companies mandating employees use company-provided PPE, that the employees are also forced to purchase at exorbitant prices via deductions from their paycheck. Believe me, I'm familiar with it. It's also a necessity in most cases; while not mandated, a lot of the el-cheapo company stuff wears out in less than a year. The FR clothing I was "given" wore out inside of 6 months. My comment is entirely related to the proverbial $500 boots, not re-priced walmart crap.
Yea and by year 3 they're gonna start smelling like a decomposing skunk.. at least do yourself a favor and use a boot dryer every night and keep extra socks on you at work.. I've had a pair or asolos for 3 years now. The occasional lemon soaked vinegar drench and boot dryers have kept them 70% fresh. Work in them 5-6 days a week framing houses and barns.
We manufacture steel chassis rails for heavy duty trucks (Mack, Volvo, Paccar, Autocar and Thomas Bus) where I work. We are a union shop. We recently ratified our new contract. In the contract we receive a yearly voucher for $180 towards the purchase of new steel toed boots. Outside of Red Wings the best boot I have found is the Timberland Pro boots. I’m part of the leadership team on the floor and routinely end up walking 30,000 to 40,000 steps each day during my 12 hour shifts. The Timberland Pro boots have not let me down yet.
Glad you have a Union and realize it benefits the workers. Some people have a distorted vision of unions, and don't like them. My union was dissolved cause of Scabs, and uneducated co-workers.
A good friend gifted me a pair of Irish Setters ($250) that didn't fit his feet. I've been wearing them nearly daily for 7 years Best boots I ever wore
This makes me think of how the FDA treats local farmers. They recently changed the whole dynamic of how you can transport small livestock in cages. They have to be a specific material, size, and have bowls for food, water. The catch? They are providing no resources on where to get these cages from, nor any funds to help purchase all new cages. Basically, they made all my current cages illegal to use because they have the power to.
And gore do people at the FDA personally profit from this? If there’s not you’re the one at fault for not doing your job and forcing this on the FDA. Never forget that “Red Tape” is born of experience.
Few employers do that had 120 boot allowance paid a little extra for my caterpillars got reimbursed 120, & the 60 I actually spent there. So you win some you lose some but your feet is the no 1. Priority hell I'll never forget my entire body was drenched from the rain only thing dry was my feet lmfao so caterpillar doesn't f around when it comes to footwear
Honestly if my boss told me I had to buy $500 boots, I would look him dead ass in his eyes and say. "I burn every fucken boot in this factory, if you ever even say the word boots to me again". 😂
I used to deliver newspapers. The papers were required to be delivered in plastic bags so they wouldn't get wet, but we had to _buy the bags_ from the company to put the papers in. It was the biggest load of crap. Fifteen years later and I still have a couple of those packs of bags left in my shed...
Good luck in any state where people have the accent the creator of these videos do. The people there are universally miseducated brain-dead zombies who buy into whatever the authority figures tell them. They are still so galvanized against anything that remotely comes close to "socialism" or "communism" due to their inherent xenophobia that you'd never get it done. As human beings-- they are just entirely hopeless and irredeemable. Those who regions need to just be written off as fascist strongholds where the people are happy to be slaves.
Brother your videos are hilarious and truthful! I recall working on a job where the GC was just like the owner character. Him and his wife were definitely scamming their guys, their customers, and the contractors working for them. Bless you!
My company does this too but the only restriction is they have to be non-slip. You can accept the credit and buy through Shoes-4-Crews but it's not mandatory.
Then, when you get laid off two weeks later they try to comfort you by saying "We know this is bad and we're all hurting, but you guys just go ahead and keep those boots we gave ya." 🤬
I want you to know you're the first person I've EVER used a code to buy something with. Ever. In like decades of using the internet. Just for you, man.
Huge boot nerd here. Drews Boots, best bang for your buck. Nicks, Whites, JK, Franks, all Pacific Northwest work boots. Expensive, but ALL leather, they mold to your feet, you can re-sole them, rebuild them, and they look rugged and badass 😎
It’s not osha that screws over people in situations like this, it’s the company and corporate deals they make, and then they blame regulations, which is the one thing that could fight their greed and help the employees.
Check with your local employment office, in Tennessee if a company requires any boots, shoes, belts, hats, etc…the company has to pay for them and provide them to you, in your size, (before you start your job if it’s a safety issue….) but company’s have to pay, not employees….don’t let them charge it to you or take it out of your pay….
In most states they have to pay, but there’s usually a cap. In Ohio they only have to pay up to $150. Have to pay on hiring, then they can go up to 2 years to get on schedule with the rest of the company, then annually.
This kinda stings me, but it sorta resonates with my trade school experience back in 89. The school charged us 400 bucks for our toolbox and tools. The next class heard this, protested, got the 400 bucks, and we come to find out, the same exact tools they made my class buy, were 230. When my class walked out of class and to the admin office, he said the 170 as for admin fees and it was too late for a refund. Needless to say, the school went out of business not long after I graduated. Ran into this 20+ years later, when I was thinking of re-training into another field, but the school claims you must buy 10k of their tools in order to attention. No wonder the trade job worker pool is shrinking, when schools are constantly gouging naive students like that.
Trade schools here in the south are making their students pay over $1000 for welding rigs and expensive equipment and ppe just to get in. Like its to the point were if you dont own your own welder you basically cant learn how to weld. They dont have their own in class workshops anymore. Thought about doing some trade school stuff before i dropped out of high school, but its almost unaffordable now. If you want to yet into trades you have to be well off, which makes no sense because most people doing trade work are poor as hell. Had a buddy at work that was doing trade school after high school and he always had his $500 welding helmet on him. Trade schools, blue collar jobs and high school extra curricular classes are all scams. Want to make $100,000 a year working on transformers and power cables? Nah you have to go to college where its $50,000 a year and buy your own equipment...
@@nitroxylictv Sorry to hear that nitro. I've seen those flyers before myself. They make great paper airplanes. lol Well when I went to trade school, in 1989, it was 5700 bucks, plus the tool purchase I mentioned above. I got certified as an electrician, but my young naive self discovered really fast by 1990, I could have done the same exact classes and got my tools for WAY less, had I just joined the electrician's union. Not sure if it's the same now for all trade unions, but that might be something to look in too. When I graduated, the job assistance program turned out to be, wait for it, a free newspaper with apprentice jobs circled by the job counselor! Whoa! I am 100% in your camp about trade schools being scams. The best pay I ever made as an electrician was 20 per hour, working on locomotives, but unless the company or contractor is stable, you're kinda fucked for job security. I'm sure there are plenty of guys who'll chime in and say "Why I've been here for 35 years" but 9 times out of 10 they are non union and work hourly as a facilities guy for a corporation. I always tell them, it's not the same as contract work. So in the end, I gave up, ended up currently working 20+ years as a dock worker, inventory and logistics specialist, and shipping/receiving (including loading and unloading trucks). Oh as for the school that wanted 10k for tools. It was for Powersports aka small engine repair. You were only allowed to pick 3 specialties to train in, they depended on the public to donate engines and you had to pray it was one you can train on, for one of your 3 choices, there was no training schedule or tasks or drills. Just a closet filled with Chilton books to help you fix whatever you were working on. Class time I was told, was only 10% of the time. When I did a tour, I was 42 at the time, and I saw a gaggle of guys just out of high school, surrounding an old lawn mower engine, trying to figure out why it isn't running. The teachers did nothing to help them. They just stood around, drinking coffee. So which 3 did I choose? Outboard boat engines, jetskis, and ATVs, because I live in the Pacific Northwest now, where these would be lucrative skills to learn. However, with the garbage training offered above, I doubt I could find a job. Anyway, good talk. :)
it really depends on where you work and the contract you sign. Cause there are companies who would do this and if you are not careful, they will trick you into signing a contract that makes it legal for them to do so.
I get 150 dollar boot credit. They have boot trucks come out once a year and if you buy boots, they'll reimburse you. Did i also pay 600 dollars for a pair of Nick's? Yes.
Fun fact i have a set of boots that actually cost $400-$500 however they are firefighting boots i got from volunteer firefighting. Best boots ive even had.
This is one thing we need someone to step in an protect employees from, if a company requires any type of uniform they should be required to provide it and not be able to deduct for it from employee's check
You require, you provide……..and you don’t get to take money with out my permission. I agree with the Rockroosters too. Flatbed truck driver here, 2 years and counting on my boots
We actually had to up our annual boot allowance from $125 to $200 for the first time in a decade last October because inflation finally hit them enough. Negotiate 3 year contracts, so it was too low for the last 2 years or so. The $125 barely covered anything on the truck.
My company gave a credit but I didn't need boots every year. I would make an online order, print the receipt, cancel the order and turn in the receipt for reimbursement. Suckers.
I have never worked in this industry but man... Your comedic context is amazing. Add that along with superb acting and just portraying these characters you do the way you do... Man, a new gem on this site!
*It is FEDERAL LAW that your employer must pay for safety equipment...including boots* Republicans are trying to cancel this law. Democrats want to enhanced this law. Vote wisely.
In most other DEVELOPED nations, not the 50 incorporated individual nation states brought to you by C-Corp America . . . companies pay for those boots and you don't have a credit or allowance because it the LAW. The LAW says if it is required to perform your job, it must be issued to you at their expense. The cost of doing business is the responsibility of the company, not the employee because otherwise why would the CAPITALIST who OWNS the business assert that they have rights OVER you and everybody knows they are already exploiting you. This is why tradesmen who bring their own tools don't put up with certain kinds of crap. That is also why they command a higher rate or salary, because the INVESTMENT "ie: these bOoTs" is factored into the associated business costs. Food for thought, we should stop allowing capitalists to have their lunch AND eat ours too.
If you need specific products to do your job the company needs to provide them. Thats why companies dont require specific equipment and only offer guidelines. If its safety related, they could still be held liable for providing them.
Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) standards require employers to provide personal protective equipment, when it is necessary to protect employees from job-related injuries, illnesses, and fatalities. With few exceptions, OSHA requires employers to pay for personal protective equipment when it is used to comply with OSHA standards. These typically include: hard hats, gloves, goggles, safety shoes, safety glasses, welding helmets and goggles, face shields, chemical protective equipment and fall protection equipment. They can reimburse you. It doesn't apply to standard steel toe slip resistant. If a soecific hazard is identified such as electrical and type e boots are required the employes HAS to provide them by federal law. If a person has to wear glasses the company has to either provide otg glasses or prescription eyewaer if the ppe is required. Independent contractors are the exception they can write off the expense of ppe. But if they are working on the jobsite and are not compliant with certification, ppe and training the company contracting them are liable for them in particular the safety manager and super. Was a safety guy for almost 20 years.
Haha when I got hired as an electrician, they said to go cheap on the tools if I had to, but buy premium boots. Bought me a pair of wolverines and loved em.
Alot of company's up here get a boot allowance and in my case I get a tool allowance as well. It's not alot but in these times anything helps. Love the channel 👍 🇨🇦 🔧
in Norway I got on first day, no contract except "when we need you", I got about 300 bucks of boots AND 300 buck wellies. Company has to provide everything we need. Even got a new baseball cap to keep for myself so I could rep the company.
I work for USIC Locating for 811. They told us we have to put out 4 cones instead of 2 for safety...like 2 extra cones will protect me from a distracted driver... asinine... Oh, and its mandatory to take a picture of your truck with the cones out at each ticket we do now. 😂
Reminded me of my work boots. I didn't pay anywhere near that for a good pair of redwings that by some miracle were actually my size instead of a size under. Ended up being something like 180 or 90 but we have a yearly 150 dollar boot allowance that was added to my paycheck after I brought the receipt to hr.
A company I worked for tried this same scam on everyone back in 1980. We were supposedly to get a bonus for boots and all of us had to buy a special boot. This crap was mandatory. I had the biggest feet at the company and I always got teased about it until this scam. The boot company didn't make a boot to fit my feet, so I could take ny bonus and buy whatever I wanted.
I'm glad I work where I do. we get an annual $250 allowance for protective footwear. Preferred method is to go to a local boot shop and put it on the company account (shop gives 10% discount if done this way) but we can also go elsewhere and hand in the receipt to get reimbursed. My boss is also pretty chill on the annual thing, if you wear them out on the job faster than that he'll authorize more. All our PPE and uniforms are provided by the shop and the standing policy is if you need something to do your job safely that we don't already stock let management know and it will be ordered ASAP. The stock PPE is usualy good 99% of the time but you get those occasional oddball jobs that come through the shop that have to be shelved till the right PPE shows up.
If the company buys the boots, they get a massive bulk discount. So they should just have a sizing day and order the boots to save thousands of dollars. Also, JK makes a $600 pair of boots that can be rebuilt multiple times for about a decade. Considering the 10 year cost, this is the best way to buy them if you are in a job that actually needs boots this tough.
"You paid $24.48. You're charging us $495?"
Ladies & gentlemen, the housing market explained through work boots!
capitalism
This is also how you explain dont fucking pay them. Dont buy anything thats super inflated the price will drop when people stop being idiots and buying things that arent a reasonable price. Supply and demand. If the demand drops the supply will get cheaper.
Actually $445 with the boot credit 😉😂
@@palboytg1 No. Free market. Those two are different.
@@palboytg1 No those boots aren't capitalism. Capitalism gives you choices between multiple options and doesn't force you to buy anything. Capitalism is the application of cash to allow someone else to start or run a business; usually in exchange for a share or shares of the profits. Price increases and upselling have been common systems for making money for way longer than capitalism has existed.
Anybody who has worked a full day in a pair of those knows what it's like to work a full day with plywood on your feet.
Lmao there not that bad maybe osb
Don't even get me started on those winter boots you wear in deep freeze storage sections. Killed so many damn socks.
My heels are cussing me right now just for holding them!
@@MarshallPatrick whats the odds managment remembered my feet are size 7 as I doubt company boots have my small size. (I know none of the main stores in town carry small enough work boots for my size)
I had those boots but not for construction. But the onto I got were onyl 40-50 bucks I think
Pay for safety equipment, only once boss man then I visit a lawyer on my lunch break. They LOVE these cases because they usually settle out of court for big figures.
You had me at settlement ❤️❤️❤️
is this safety equipment or is it the uniform? that makes a difference legally. safety equipment must be provided, uniforms can be charged to the employee. However, if the company is requiring the purchase of those boots because they consider them to be safety equipment then you could have a case. If they just said "these boots are part of the uniform" then you can't do anything about it.
@@jimbeam-ru1my
Obviously safety equipment is implied in the video. It also really depends on what state you are in when it comes to Uniform laws. Some will require the employer provide it free of charge, some may allow deductions as long as it doesn't cause the employee to fall below minimum wage. Than there is also the issue of keeping it compliant for those with disabilities.
However there is obviously a balance act the company must do as well. Have a huge upfront uniform bill to the employee? Hope you maintain loyal employees. Cause when Joe can join company A with an upfront uniform bill of $300-600 dollars or Company B for free, and they both pay the same rate, Company B is going to be able to fill it's positions alot easier than Company A.
@@jimbeam-ru1my if its their uniform they still pay full costscnot employee. Can't charge for uniforms either shd have to clean selves or pay employees. Its under labor blaws not ohsa about uniforms. Uniforms include if they just require you wear certain lookimgvor floored clothing?. If they say you must dreescinna blackish suit white shirt ree tie wungtipoed black shoes etc they have to pay for all that and the maintenance of it. Lol at you. Absolutely any kind of company requirements must be paid by compajt regardless what it is even your vehicle gas etc if its being used for company. Even delivery drivers get compensated for vehicle use. Lol this includes trying to make employees associates like Walmart did expecting they have to pay for uniforms and other s. Walmart lost two months lost later in S Carolina their home state about that. Lol
@@failegion7828 tell me what states there are where you even pay a cent? Florida example of minimum wage much more to it. Law aksi says you have to include statement that deductions have to be made to pay for uniforms. Know Florida has the best employer labor laws in states by far with Georgia a close second . anyways employers in Florida rather instead start you at a low wage and pay for all the uniform stuff because it ends confusion. When new emoloyees that many got frustrated quit jobs thinking let's say the $12 hr job they had turned out to be a $10 an hour job like yoiu infer above. Not good business practice to have a high employee turnover. As for higher paying employers they almost always pay full cost up front as for semi pro and professional jobs its quite easy for one in demand to say Heff Hugh and go elsewhere. Lol also the FISA law goes in to say if uniform is required by some other law, THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS OR! THE EMPLOYER ( so anything with company logos on it or required color scheme company has to pay for OR if employer wants you to wear a certain style suit because they prefer that again they pay) . this additional clause makes it extremely hard for an employer to actually charge for a uniform. Basic outfit would be rather bland looking. Employer can tell you a general style of clothing to wear but once starts getting specific about things like specific brands color schemes that would clearly reflect his her own bias or that of company logos trade marks or such its employer pays all. He can tell you wear jeans and a t shirt or a business suit age dress shoes but cannot tell you to wear Levis and a G brand cotton to try hush puppies. He cannot say you must wear such and such color scheme. Lol ok? Read all the act before quoting it. Also look at actual hearings. Lol employees win far more than emolyers innflsa uniform costs cases. Employers that win win only on refusal of basic requirement. Oh yeah and cannot make a profit of of uniforms if youre providing them as employer so theres never be a huge difference like youbstatre above. FLSA has a very composite list of what things cost and not just by individual units bit different lot sizes as well. Lol say a required shirt costs $10 if you bought individual listed RSP by t shirt company is $10 a unit. But emoloer gets them in lots for $7 each. Shows tiuba oic on Google saying $10 RSP and tries charging you $10. Lol. Or even better he says I'll deduct some of thstbcost for you. Itsv$7.01. Even that penny would lose him the case. FLSA like any other labor enforcement agency or in fact any go v agency involves some kind of monetary arbitration will have complete RSP lists databases to access. Lol don't matter either if he instead pays more than the RSP. He by law can't charge you more than what he paid or the RSP whatever is lower.
Old hotel I worked at they had us wear white button-up long-sleeved shirts, vest, dark slacks, and black polished shoes (average room price was about 250 bucks in summer, so not THAT fancy of a place). One day, the boss lady told us we needed to buy our new clothes from the company website. I had gotten my clothes at wal-mart, for about 50 bucks an outfit... and suddenly they wanted me to get even cheaper-feeling stuff at about 120 bucks an outfit (sans shoes) and another 100 bucks on shoes. I looked them up online, and showed everyone else. We could order the EXACT SAME from taiwan for about 15 bucks an outfit (5 bucks a shirt, vest and pants). Company was marking it up. Turns out, that was illegal for them to fire me for buying the regulation clothes at a different venue. The hotel here in town is STILL paying out to ex-employees as they get in contact.
That is insane.they really tried to profit off of employees smh
gotten name drop the hotel so I don't give them my business
There's moments you gotta check in with lawyers like that
Another aspect to consider is jobs forcing to dress "nice". Slacks and dress shirts are not meant to do manual labor in. So if your cleaning rooms and other such task it's very easy to damage or stain a white shirt...
If OSHA wants to mandate new boots for everyone, sounds to me like OSHA needs to pay for some new boots.
Hahahahaha OSHA ain't paying for s**t! Ever!
Most places don’t actively try to screw you like this company. Caterpillar gives you a $125 voucher for steel toe slip resistant boots that can be as cheap as fifty. You don’t get the difference so it behooves you to spend it on good boots .
@@charles2703 Cat boots are crap, i bought a pair and they hurt my feet
@@gregoryeverson741 which is why no one here buys them. I splurge for Red Wings
@@charles2703 I bought a pair of Carolinas 200$, they feel great, Redwings are to much for me 300$
Its great when you get a great pair of boots
I work in a battery manufacturing plant. We have a guy that always pipes in just like this, started there 32 years ago.
Easily his best line was when we ran 1.2 million batteries in a month and they gave us cupcakes.
"Maaannnnn cupcake handin out cupcakes..." LOL even the floor managers had to turn away to hide a grin.
Keep this kind of content up and you'll be at 200k in no time at all, great stuff man.
Thank you brother! I appreciate you!
I love how manufacturing jobs do the least and think feeding their employees some little shit makes up for all the work they did like the employees will brag to their friends about getting some fucking cupcakes for a month of work.
32 years and he's not a manager? Dude's a dolt.
@@user-uc5tj6ux8wI work with a guy who's been in the company for 20+ years. He doesn't want to be in the office and deal with the office BS. Though he is leadhand for the shift
@@user-uc5tj6ux8w Nah, he's probably just too unwilling to kiss ass to get a management job.
As soon as he whipped out that box that said "company boots" and said th y cost $495 I knew they were gonna be Brahma's lmao 🤣🤣
Couldn't have been ANY other brand as far as I was thinking. HAD to be Brahmas lol
No other brand would have been as fine as the prestigious Brahma! 😂
Nothing wrong with Brahmas. Just get the right insole. Forty bucks a year for boots.😂
Yeah I don't know why I get ariat Braham is where it's at.
I was expecting redwings
I've been on the opposite side of this, our company had a string of foot and ankle injuries. They made it a big priority, and assigned me to gigure out the problem, it turned out a bunch of people were wearing the wrong footwear. I suggested we give them a voucher of some sort to get the right boots for the job, and crunched the numbers to show it would save us tens of thousands of dollars in lost time, and workers comp if we worked with a certain well known company that had a redeemable voucher program. They settled on a $300 dollar boot allowance that went on their paycheck instead. 2 months later half the employees still didn't have the right footwear and had blown the money at the bar or strip club that was up the road from us. I of course got the heat for that one, even though they only took half of my advice.
They could've had a redeemable code or a physical voucher or something.
@batboy555 That's actually what I recommended, but they went with money on the checks instead. They thought the employees could get boots, and have a little bonus with any money left over.
so fucking typical lol
Buy the boots bring the receipt lol
Y'all should've just bought the boots from the store and handed them out
I’ve always bought 150 dollar boots, my new job gave me $150 per year for new boots. First time I ever bought $300 boots lol. Employee owned, union friendly, made in America. Go team.🇺🇸
Would like to know, are you referring to Red Wings? Just got my first pair of steel toe, self tightening electrical hazard boots from them and after inserting a Dr Schols insert, I don’t think I will ever go any other work boot of lower quality.
@@krystopherturner3149Red Wings and Caterpillar have been good to me so far
@@krystopherturner3149i’m the same way had other cheap boots and can’t see any reason to go back! Also they have repair service💛 I have two pairs personally I rotate💪
Thorogood
Been wearing wings for 20 years. New pair every 6-12 months. Never had a back problem. Knock on wood. Wanted to love a pair of Thorogoods, but they just didn’t fit my feet like the wings.
The boots come with a free jar of Vaseline! And cheek spreaders.
What for free? No way.
Also I bet they’d deduct $550 from the pay to get back the $50 food credit.
Vaseline is a subscription, they take $19.99/wk out of our checks to ease the fking!
The Vaseline and spreaders cost more than the boots
Why not use anal lube?
The cheek spreader was too pricey so here’s 2 strips of duct tape
This is when you get the mandatory requirement and photo of said boots in writing from the bosses and call OSHA and maybe the union or HR and explain the situation. Punish them for their bullshit.
It is cute that you think the right-wing U.S. government is going to do shit for workers other than, after years of litigation, fine the company some tiny fraction of the money they made on ripping off employees and then call it a day.
HR is for the company where I work 😢
@@MarshallPatrick class action lawsuit have all your fellow employes pitch in for the price.
HR is meant to protect the company, not you. Never EVER go to HR
No American employer is putting anything in writing. What country do you live in?
Those have to be the most loyal employees in the world considering they're still working there. Protect them at all costs bossman.
Bossman doesn't even realize how good they are 😪
@@MarshallPatrick the sad reality in most cases with employers.
The way this happens is when it's the only company in a small town, the oldest company in town.
Boss - "We're gonna give a $50 coupon for Red Wings!"
Me - "So, any boots at Red Wing?"
Boss - "No, only the pairs over $300."
Remember, any safety equipment required to comply with OSHA standards is fully the employers cost. Sue for the rest, tell Osha.
Red wings are OK, cat mucks and those ones at the country store are best. Around $300 but worth it for a year.
@@madscientistlifei do a lot of walking for my job (meaning the soles get worn real fast since I average 30-40 miles a night), and I actually have to go through redwing for regular shoes and work boots anyway (because I have some giant ass, damn flipper feet), but if your boots are only lasting you one year, you're doing something wrong... then again, my work boots tend to last 3-4 years
@MrEli768 3-4 years on one pair of boot is impressive. I'm also driving commercial trucks, working in the shop and climbing up and down the side of a crane at least half a dozen times a day. I just bought me a new pair of Dan Post steel toe slip on in plain black leather because I like to holler at the pretty blonde country girls down there at boot country but maybe next year I'll try something different. Even the cat boots I've worn in years past don't make it a summer. Then again I stay pretty busy 6 days a week.
@MrEli768
You are not walking 30-40 miles per night working.
I once worked at a job that gave us a free pair of boots or shoes every 3 months. Get a paper signed by your supervisor, goto the red wing store and get a brand new pair for free on the company it was a fantastic policy
3 months is quite often, honestly maybe even too often, for the reason that once you're already used to the pair and they're "worn in" to your foot, you're already getting into the new one
I mean, it's still great for company to be willing to do such a thing
Was it involving hazardous/exceptionally rough terrain/corrosive to certain materials kind of job that warranted such a policy through practical reasons?
Or some company big enough for them to consider such a move to be beneficial reputation-wise?
Genuinely curious, because well, it's business and it's extremely rare for companies to generate expenses (almost) solely due to "goodness of the heart", and I find it hard to believe that even in construction a pair of proper working boots would get worn out so quickly to such a degree that it warrants a new pair on a quarterly basis
3 months they are barely broke in.
@@UrsusSuperior44I work as a postal carrier. I could easily go through shoes every 3 months. But I walk about 10+ miles every work day.
they have to legally due to workers rights regulations that save your ass.
Dont thank your company, thank the voters and specific politicians who implemented those regulations.
@@UrsusSuperior44a previous job of mine I got new boots every 2-3 months, we had a minimum tread depth for health and safety.
"We don't care about your name," is the realest goddamn thing
I fully expected the boots to be from the CEO's cousin's boot store. like in the military we had to buy hammers from some senator's cousin, only half the hammers were assembled right and they cost $500
Your experience is one of the many ways government launders money.
@@NTJedi I've heard a lot of these "$500 hammer" places are fronts for other things, black projects like the Aurora from the 1990's. they get $500 from my squadron, send a $5 hammer, and the rest goes into a black budget. it's so spread out that it's hard to trace.
@cunnyfunt3923 what part of this is confusing you?
@@davesmith3023 they take tax dollars then buy services or products from relatives which overcharge. In my city 20 years ago their relatives construction company was charging $500 to install one speed bump when at the time the cost should have been $75 per speed bump.
@@davesmith3023 broken handles, not secured to the handles, wrong heat treat so it shatters when used, you'd think it's hard to screw up a hammer, but they did it...
This is why i love where i work. They have their own boot store in the plant. You get a slip from your boss and go get a pair 1,2,3 times a year depending on the condition of your boots. Even if they are still okay you can go get a new pair each year. They truly take care of us
am jealous
They legally have to. It's not out of kindness.
It also is just smart, because paying out for workplace injuries is more expensive, once again because regulations make it more expensive.
Stop attributing goodness to companies when the goodness comes from good regulations.
Support workers rights, because you can see in countries with less, companies do less.
Such saltiness. I happen to work for a company that shows they care in boots and in cash. These companies do exist, and I hope you find yourself at one someday
It sounds as though your boots were made for walking. And that's just what they'll do.
Good companies exist out there, and these people work for them. Stop having such a preordained fatalist approach to work, trust me it’ll serve you better in the long run if you leave it here
Where I come from if they require a certain type of boot, they have to pay for it. It’s funny for me because I have a big ass foot and they have to special order mine . Couple of hundred dollars every time. 😂
knew a guy who was massive, wore either a size 15 or 18 boot size and we worked ina plant that required special boots.
Damn good thing they pay for them! It's got to be a proud moment when you know you're costing them more 😂😂😂 I love it!
Big ass feet huh.... are you single?
I know that feeling... Of all the footware stores in my area, only redwing has shoes and boots that fit my stupid wide feet (size 13, triple H), and I haven't seen a pair of work boots there, in my size, under $320 (after tax)... apparently I take after my grandpa on my mom's side, because only redwing had his size also, his shoe size was 15 triple E when he died at 72
Aside from the funny skit, investing $4-500 in a good pair of boots can be an amazing thing. My Whites have lasted almost 4 years now with just a little wear on the toe where the steel toebox is. Get you some you won't regret it.
I'm sure they are a great investment, I'm just too poor for that 😢
@@MarshallPatrick keep making videos like these and we'll help you change that lol
I got a pair of Carolinas, 200$ feel great on the feet, about 1yr old and still intact.
@@MarshallPatrick Depending on your tolerance for decrepit falling apart boots, they tend to be more cost effective. I've had a pair of danner's that I put through hell over 2 years and while I dont wear them for my current job, they'd have held up years more without so much as a restitching. 450 buck boots. But if they last you 6 years of hard work that a cheaper pair might only last 6 months in, they can be similar cost or outright better cost effectiveness. The comfort is another big thing. I could work for 9 hours on my feet in my boots and my feet are not only safe but damn comfy, waterproof, the works.
You can get similar quality for less but I bought American made.
400 bucks for 6 years of excellent boots or buy 12 pairs over those 6 years for 50 bucks a pop.
My $150 boots last 4 years too, sitting around in the office trailer all day like you must do 😂
Just remind management how much an OSHA violation costs the company and it ends up like Christmas morning
"No more questions, fellas."
Would love to see a skit where the workers sue the company. And in court the Workers just slam down violation after violation with reference to previous videos. They manage to shut the whole Company down.
Then they excitedly go to their new job only to find the new company is doing the same bullshit.
"Then they excitedly go to their new job only to find the new company is doing the same bullshit."
but offering lower pay
Yea XD@@jimbeam-ru1my
To be fair, the $500 PNW boots out there are the kind you'll wear for the next ten years. Wish I'd gotten a set of them before spending over $1000 on the various $120-$220 big box brands over the years.
did you miss the company demanding you buy them every year
@@hamasaken Yeah, I got the satire of it, companies mandating employees use company-provided PPE, that the employees are also forced to purchase at exorbitant prices via deductions from their paycheck. Believe me, I'm familiar with it.
It's also a necessity in most cases; while not mandated, a lot of the el-cheapo company stuff wears out in less than a year. The FR clothing I was "given" wore out inside of 6 months.
My comment is entirely related to the proverbial $500 boots, not re-priced walmart crap.
I always tell the new guys spend money on your boots.
Somebody else's 10 years is my 1 year
Yea and by year 3 they're gonna start smelling like a decomposing skunk.. at least do yourself a favor and use a boot dryer every night and keep extra socks on you at work.. I've had a pair or asolos for 3 years now. The occasional lemon soaked vinegar drench and boot dryers have kept them 70% fresh. Work in them 5-6 days a week framing houses and barns.
I'm familier with osha. I might be mistaken but it's the employers responsibility to provide personal protection equipment
We manufacture steel chassis rails for heavy duty trucks (Mack, Volvo, Paccar, Autocar and Thomas Bus) where I work. We are a union shop. We recently ratified our new contract. In the contract we receive a yearly voucher for $180 towards the purchase of new steel toed boots. Outside of Red Wings the best boot I have found is the Timberland Pro boots. I’m part of the leadership team on the floor and routinely end up walking 30,000 to 40,000 steps each day during my 12 hour shifts. The Timberland Pro boots have not let me down yet.
As a landscaper a pair of Tim pros last me two full years.
Glad you have a Union and realize it benefits the workers. Some people have a distorted vision of unions, and don't like them. My union was dissolved cause of Scabs, and uneducated co-workers.
I think bossman is due for another punch in the nose
To be fair, its one ass whopping in the parking lot per episode
Long over due! Gotta go for a full on beat down next time!
A good friend gifted me a pair of Irish Setters ($250) that didn't fit his feet. I've been wearing them nearly daily for 7 years
Best boots I ever wore
I legitimately want to work at this place. Massive lawsuits every day for massive payouts.
Tell me your company has a contract with Red Wing Shoes without telling me your company has a contract with Red Wing Shoes.
That ending. Perfection.
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Big thanks for pointing out Rockrooster. I've been looking for a pair of boots/shoes that won't disintegrate in three months and they were a godsend!
This makes me think of how the FDA treats local farmers. They recently changed the whole dynamic of how you can transport small livestock in cages. They have to be a specific material, size, and have bowls for food, water. The catch? They are providing no resources on where to get these cages from, nor any funds to help purchase all new cages. Basically, they made all my current cages illegal to use because they have the power to.
Those bastards are trying to snuff out the small competition. I hope your business is flourishing.
Stop being so cruel to animals. Hope they fine you to heck and shut you down
Yeah congrats, some lobbyist of a mega corporation won in making a new law.
And gore do people at the FDA personally profit from this? If there’s not you’re the one at fault for not doing your job and forcing this on the FDA.
Never forget that “Red Tape” is born of experience.
“We don’t care about your name..” that hit hard. 😂
So glad I live in the UK
Under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974 all PPE must be provided free of charge.
but you got that rotten nhs.
This is too close to home
Preach 😢
Boots should be provided by the employer free of charge. It’s something you should talk to your union rep about
Few employers do that had 120 boot allowance paid a little extra for my caterpillars got reimbursed 120, & the 60 I actually spent there. So you win some you lose some but your feet is the no 1. Priority hell I'll never forget my entire body was drenched from the rain only thing dry was my feet lmfao so caterpillar doesn't f around when it comes to footwear
Honestly if my boss told me I had to buy $500 boots, I would look him dead ass in his eyes and say. "I burn every fucken boot in this factory, if you ever even say the word boots to me again". 😂
Five bucks says there a knock off pair of wolverines that cost like $150 standard
Edit: it was far worse than I thought 💀
I like them, I'm not a work boot expert though. But they do well for me!
I used to deliver newspapers. The papers were required to be delivered in plastic bags so they wouldn't get wet, but we had to _buy the bags_ from the company to put the papers in. It was the biggest load of crap. Fifteen years later and I still have a couple of those packs of bags left in my shed...
So! who's up for a Union?
Good luck in any state where people have the accent the creator of these videos do. The people there are universally miseducated brain-dead zombies who buy into whatever the authority figures tell them. They are still so galvanized against anything that remotely comes close to "socialism" or "communism" due to their inherent xenophobia that you'd never get it done.
As human beings-- they are just entirely hopeless and irredeemable. Those who regions need to just be written off as fascist strongholds where the people are happy to be slaves.
Me
Brother your videos are hilarious and truthful!
I recall working on a job where the GC was just like the owner character. Him and his wife were definitely scamming their guys, their customers, and the contractors working for them. Bless you!
My company does this too but the only restriction is they have to be non-slip. You can accept the credit and buy through Shoes-4-Crews but it's not mandatory.
Options are always welcomed! I can't stand mandates!
Then, when you get laid off two weeks later they try to comfort you by saying "We know this is bad and we're all hurting, but you guys just go ahead and keep those boots we gave ya." 🤬
I want you to know you're the first person I've EVER used a code to buy something with. Ever. In like decades of using the internet. Just for you, man.
Would love to see a series of putting in my two week notice videos 😂
This is the smoothest promo I've seen in a skit.
Hope we get some airport ground level videos one day😂😂😂
Ohhhh I like that idea!!! Don't see too many of those! I'll get on it 👍
@@MarshallPatrick Ramper/ Baggage Handler work is not easy at all🤣🤣 especially in high season like summer or Thanksgiving
Huge boot nerd here. Drews Boots, best bang for your buck. Nicks, Whites, JK, Franks, all Pacific Northwest work boots.
Expensive, but ALL leather, they mold to your feet, you can re-sole them, rebuild them, and they look rugged and badass 😎
This is why COMPANIES...not employees are required to produce PPE.
Quit Walmart and get Rock Rooster!!!!
The add placement is sublime, I’m definitely going for that deal
You and Ricky need meet. Y’all would be the best of friends. Y’all would give boss man a heart attack from getting so pissed off.
It’s not osha that screws over people in situations like this, it’s the company and corporate deals they make, and then they blame regulations, which is the one thing that could fight their greed and help the employees.
Check with your local employment office, in Tennessee if a company requires any boots, shoes, belts, hats, etc…the company has to pay for them and provide them to you, in your size, (before you start your job if it’s a safety issue….) but company’s have to pay, not employees….don’t let them charge it to you or take it out of your pay….
In most states they have to pay, but there’s usually a cap. In Ohio they only have to pay up to $150. Have to pay on hiring, then they can go up to 2 years to get on schedule with the rest of the company, then annually.
This kinda stings me, but it sorta resonates with my trade school experience back in 89. The school charged us 400 bucks for our toolbox and tools. The next class heard this, protested, got the 400 bucks, and we come to find out, the same exact tools they made my class buy, were 230. When my class walked out of class and to the admin office, he said the 170 as for admin fees and it was too late for a refund. Needless to say, the school went out of business not long after I graduated. Ran into this 20+ years later, when I was thinking of re-training into another field, but the school claims you must buy 10k of their tools in order to attention. No wonder the trade job worker pool is shrinking, when schools are constantly gouging naive students like that.
Trade schools here in the south are making their students pay over $1000 for welding rigs and expensive equipment and ppe just to get in. Like its to the point were if you dont own your own welder you basically cant learn how to weld. They dont have their own in class workshops anymore. Thought about doing some trade school stuff before i dropped out of high school, but its almost unaffordable now. If you want to yet into trades you have to be well off, which makes no sense because most people doing trade work are poor as hell. Had a buddy at work that was doing trade school after high school and he always had his $500 welding helmet on him. Trade schools, blue collar jobs and high school extra curricular classes are all scams. Want to make $100,000 a year working on transformers and power cables? Nah you have to go to college where its $50,000 a year and buy your own equipment...
@@nitroxylictv Sorry to hear that nitro. I've seen those flyers before myself. They make great paper airplanes. lol
Well when I went to trade school, in 1989, it was 5700 bucks, plus the tool purchase I mentioned above. I got certified as an electrician, but my young naive self discovered really fast by 1990, I could have done the same exact classes and got my tools for WAY less, had I just joined the electrician's union. Not sure if it's the same now for all trade unions, but that might be something to look in too. When I graduated, the job assistance program turned out to be, wait for it, a free newspaper with apprentice jobs circled by the job counselor! Whoa! I am 100% in your camp about trade schools being scams. The best pay I ever made as an electrician was 20 per hour, working on locomotives, but unless the company or contractor is stable, you're kinda fucked for job security. I'm sure there are plenty of guys who'll chime in and say "Why I've been here for 35 years" but 9 times out of 10 they are non union and work hourly as a facilities guy for a corporation. I always tell them, it's not the same as contract work.
So in the end, I gave up, ended up currently working 20+ years as a dock worker, inventory and logistics specialist, and shipping/receiving (including loading and unloading trucks).
Oh as for the school that wanted 10k for tools. It was for Powersports aka small engine repair. You were only allowed to pick 3 specialties to train in, they depended on the public to donate engines and you had to pray it was one you can train on, for one of your 3 choices, there was no training schedule or tasks or drills. Just a closet filled with Chilton books to help you fix whatever you were working on. Class time I was told, was only 10% of the time. When I did a tour, I was 42 at the time, and I saw a gaggle of guys just out of high school, surrounding an old lawn mower engine, trying to figure out why it isn't running. The teachers did nothing to help them. They just stood around, drinking coffee.
So which 3 did I choose? Outboard boat engines, jetskis, and ATVs, because I live in the Pacific Northwest now, where these would be lucrative skills to learn. However, with the garbage training offered above, I doubt I could find a job.
Anyway, good talk. :)
college is just lobbyist laws that force people to pay for expensive select items for 1000% mark-up prices.
Anyone with a job dangerous enough to wear these unbelieveably heavy boots all day every day deserves free boots AND a $10/hour raise.
We’ll give you $50 so you can purchase boots from us for $500 that we bought at Walmart for $25. Nothing to see here.
Profit focused
That entire thing ended up being a boot commercial, lol. A very well done boot commercial.
I'll keep the credit and miss the boots, thank you very much.
It's illegal for them to take something like that out of your check, isn't it?
it really depends on where you work and the contract you sign. Cause there are companies who would do this and if you are not careful, they will trick you into signing a contract that makes it legal for them to do so.
Yes. Ppe is suppose to be provided at companys expense. That is the law.
‘Merica
Yes, this whole video is super illegal. Most of my videos are lol But that doesn't stop the high and mighty company! 😢
@@MarshallPatrick if they get caught they just pay a fine and keep doing it
I get 150 dollar boot credit. They have boot trucks come out once a year and if you buy boots, they'll reimburse you.
Did i also pay 600 dollars for a pair of Nick's? Yes.
The company wants them, the company needs to pay for them.
Fun fact i have a set of boots that actually cost $400-$500 however they are firefighting boots i got from volunteer firefighting. Best boots ive even had.
Clearly these boots came from McMaster-Carr
buying boots from the Snap-On truck
Dear Police,
We didn't see nothing!
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That’s 5 minutes and 45 seconds I’ll never get back
Ohhhh OSHA would have a field day with that one. I'm really hoping this series ends with the manager/owner getting fined into an early grave.
Government is way out of control
Thank god the company pays all equipments we need. Clothes, tools, machines etc etc
Geez even Amazon does better than that.
I see a lot of Amazon comments on my videos, kinda sad really 😮
Yeah Amazon pays for their inhouse shoe store so it's a tax write-off, but at least I don't pay for it.
This is one thing we need someone to step in an protect employees from, if a company requires any type of uniform they should be required to provide it and not be able to deduct for it from employee's check
You require, you provide……..and you don’t get to take money with out my permission. I agree with the Rockroosters too. Flatbed truck driver here, 2 years and counting on my boots
We actually had to up our annual boot allowance from $125 to $200 for the first time in a decade last October because inflation finally hit them enough. Negotiate 3 year contracts, so it was too low for the last 2 years or so. The $125 barely covered anything on the truck.
In Brazil the company have to give any security gear for free to the employes. You have to replace it if you lose.
From the boot truck that they requested visit the shop that are only worth 10$. But you pay 500 because the super visors need their yearly bonus.
In the UK/ EU if PPE is mandatory it has to be provided by the company . That's how it's supposed to work but it doesn't always happen
I'd be visiting a lawyer the second I was out of their.
The best is when they give you the candy bar called 100 grand, and say you're worth it! Thanks. Good to know I am only worth about a dollar to you.
A dollar for a candy bar? In what country? Last time I saw a candy bar that cheap was damn near 20 years ago.
@@AngryReptileKeeper You can get a bite sized 100 grand for just over a dollar last I checked. Pre covid prices were lower of course.
My company gave a credit but I didn't need boots every year. I would make an online order, print the receipt, cancel the order and turn in the receipt for reimbursement. Suckers.
Management must have one hell of a good insurance plan for them to stay on after the ass-whooping they get after every meeting like this.
That's how you do an ad. Five seconds at the end. That's it.
im glad here in my country, an employer is responsible for supplying work wear and equipment
I have never worked in this industry but man... Your comedic context is amazing.
Add that along with superb acting and just portraying these characters you do the way you do... Man, a new gem on this site!
Sounds like the company will be training a few new employees soon.
*It is FEDERAL LAW that your employer must pay for safety equipment...including boots*
Republicans are trying to cancel this law.
Democrats want to enhanced this law.
Vote wisely.
In most other DEVELOPED nations, not the 50 incorporated individual nation states brought to you by C-Corp America . . . companies pay for those boots and you don't have a credit or allowance because it the LAW. The LAW says if it is required to perform your job, it must be issued to you at their expense. The cost of doing business is the responsibility of the company, not the employee because otherwise why would the CAPITALIST who OWNS the business assert that they have rights OVER you and everybody knows they are already exploiting you. This is why tradesmen who bring their own tools don't put up with certain kinds of crap. That is also why they command a higher rate or salary, because the INVESTMENT "ie: these bOoTs" is factored into the associated business costs.
Food for thought, we should stop allowing capitalists to have their lunch AND eat ours too.
This has got to be a Goodyear commercial right here.
If you need specific products to do your job the company needs to provide them. Thats why companies dont require specific equipment and only offer guidelines. If its safety related, they could still be held liable for providing them.
Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) standards require employers to provide personal protective equipment, when it is necessary to protect employees from job-related injuries, illnesses, and fatalities. With few exceptions, OSHA requires employers to pay for personal protective equipment when it is used to comply with OSHA standards. These typically include: hard hats, gloves, goggles, safety shoes, safety glasses, welding helmets and goggles, face shields, chemical protective equipment and fall protection equipment. They can reimburse you. It doesn't apply to standard steel toe slip resistant. If a soecific hazard is identified such as electrical and type e boots are required the employes HAS to provide them by federal law. If a person has to wear glasses the company has to either provide otg glasses or prescription eyewaer if the ppe is required. Independent contractors are the exception they can write off the expense of ppe. But if they are working on the jobsite and are not compliant with certification, ppe and training the company contracting them are liable for them in particular the safety manager and super. Was a safety guy for almost 20 years.
Haha when I got hired as an electrician, they said to go cheap on the tools if I had to, but buy premium boots. Bought me a pair of wolverines and loved em.
exactly why I am so pessimistic with everything....LITERALLY EVERYTHING....There is no reason
Alot of company's up here get a boot allowance and in my case I get a tool allowance as well. It's not alot but in these times anything helps. Love the channel 👍 🇨🇦 🔧
I got 100 dollar boot credit. Cheapest boots i could find that met the right qualifications and fit my feet cost 300 dollars.
in Norway I got on first day, no contract except "when we need you", I got about 300 bucks of boots AND 300 buck wellies. Company has to provide everything we need. Even got a new baseball cap to keep for myself so I could rep the company.
I work for USIC Locating for 811. They told us we have to put out 4 cones instead of 2 for safety...like 2 extra cones will protect me from a distracted driver... asinine... Oh, and its mandatory to take a picture of your truck with the cones out at each ticket we do now. 😂
Reminded me of my work boots. I didn't pay anywhere near that for a good pair of redwings that by some miracle were actually my size instead of a size under. Ended up being something like 180 or 90 but we have a yearly 150 dollar boot allowance that was added to my paycheck after I brought the receipt to hr.
A company I worked for tried this same scam on everyone back in 1980. We were supposedly to get a bonus for boots and all of us had to buy a special boot. This crap was mandatory. I had the biggest feet at the company and I always got teased about it until this scam. The boot company didn't make a boot to fit my feet, so I could take ny bonus and buy whatever I wanted.
If they want to make it mandatory, it is considered a uniform, and therefore paid for by the employer.
Several companies I worked for tried something very similar.
It's no joke.
I'm glad I work where I do. we get an annual $250 allowance for protective footwear. Preferred method is to go to a local boot shop and put it on the company account (shop gives 10% discount if done this way) but we can also go elsewhere and hand in the receipt to get reimbursed. My boss is also pretty chill on the annual thing, if you wear them out on the job faster than that he'll authorize more. All our PPE and uniforms are provided by the shop and the standing policy is if you need something to do your job safely that we don't already stock let management know and it will be ordered ASAP. The stock PPE is usualy good 99% of the time but you get those occasional oddball jobs that come through the shop that have to be shelved till the right PPE shows up.
That was the best way to work in a promo code I’ve ever seen.
If the company buys the boots, they get a massive bulk discount. So they should just have a sizing day and order the boots to save thousands of dollars.
Also, JK makes a $600 pair of boots that can be rebuilt multiple times for about a decade. Considering the 10 year cost, this is the best way to buy them if you are in a job that actually needs boots this tough.