Yah gotta be the worst commander to send in all your Calvary men separately and randomly instead of joined up in a line as a proper force. Hell im a graphic designer and i could lead this army better than this rebel bloke.
+Darklarik His army size was larger, commanders with number superiority will do this. There are actually quite a few of them throughout history. Sometimes its best to just overwhelm your enemy with number if you have it but sometimes it doesn't work. The Greeks have a long history being underestimated by larger armies.
+AuomAk No, none of the civilised generals would send their cav down the battlefield at random with huge spaces in between them against a spear formation. Plus, a real horse would not sprint a head on that formation just suiciding, horses are smart animals, they would break the formation and run around them. That is why the square infantry formation was developed, that is why the Holy Roman Empire adopted the snake maneuver - attack the enemy linear formation with the cav, when the horse starts to turn, shoot your gun, load the gun, turn the horse, when it starts to turn on its own, shoot again, load your gun and repeat.
+AuomAk Overwhelming the enemy with superior numbers, yes. Charging from hundreds of meters away, widely spread out, against a massed block of prepared spearmen in tight formation? No way. You march up to them to keep your men in formation as long as possible and prevent early fatique. When possible you move to outflank or at least stretch their lines, so a breakthrough is more easily accomplished which allows you to engulf your enemy. If a head on cavalry charge doesn't seem like it'll break the enemy (which did happen often as a charging horseman is quite terrifying) you don't charge home but save them for when the enemy is locked in combat (easy with superior numbers, especially if the enemy has 0 cavalry). Like +AumAk said, horses are not keen on charging into a forest of enemy spears. Running into the center of an infantry block one at a time? Come on nobody did this and nobody would order it. The Persians failed miserably against the greeks on a number of occasions despite their numbers yes, but they didnt use 'tactics' like this. In the famous battles at Marathon and Platea they were mostly being charged by Greeks, while at Thermopolylae they couldn't use their numbers for flanking and instead tried to smash through with massed infantry. Key word massed, not single soldiers. This was just an over the top movie gorefest, one army of 'bad guy' mindless drones vs the (for now) 'good guys' army which is superb. Also kind of the enemy to mostly leave the supreme solo fighters alone. Its rather frustrating to watch actually. I want some amount of common sense in movies, yes even in fantasy films. Just like in most movie battles when once the sides clash they turn into a mass of individual duels instead of keeping formations, why? Hell even riots without commanders somewhat keep their lines. But then you always get the "its just a movie" argument, like thats an excuse for illogical and therefore inferior work.
That's from actual Greek mythology, though. This movie is a slightly different take on Hercules in that they're not all that sure he really is all that special or that strong. This version of Hercules uses deception, cunning and the help of his friends to build his reputation and no one's really sure if he's a demigod or not. Not even his friends know for sure. All they know is that he has unusual amounts of strength and a knack for surviving overwhelming odds. In the actual mythological stories, everyone knew Hercules was immensely strong and a demigod.
+rasheedqe There doesn't have to be a sequel. Even if there has to be a sequel, it's only been twenty months. Some movies take years to announce a sequel. This movie was a success. Deal with it.
***** Your troll fu is strong. Trump hasn't been sworn in yet, he can't do shit until he's in office, and in case you haven't noticed Hilldog is trying to nullify the election results by calling for recounts.
um no, the hate in this film stems from the absolutely ludicrous stupid/unrealistic fight scene and the sheer mythical incompetence of the "Commande's" decisions as i listed above. Its understandable that its fiction and all, but "its just a movie" is not an excuse for this degree of blatant stupidity. The whole scene is lazy. You have to be really tasteless or oblivious to have enjoyed this...
Well apart from the fact that Greeks almost didn't use cavalry on the battlefield, chariots were pretty rare, preferred formation was phalanx not this loose I-don't-know-what-formation, shields were quite different, horses didn't have horseshoes, saddles and stirrups and advancing head on those spikes could be considered as suicide for the light cavalry - this looks quite legit.
ankushzap To me it felt like a good throwback to the days of old Hollywood making sword and sandal flicks. In contrast to todays movies where characters can fly, heal from any wounds, and have lasers shoot from their eyes, this one seemed like a grounded story about the man behind the myth.
Red Law lol I've been watching movies for most of my life, just like pretty much everyone. What other qualifier does one need in order to assess comparative quality in a film? Get a clue. Hercules the Legendary Journeys shits on this. Umad?
agiftedrighter.com Well than speak for yourself. I mean, I understand that you don't like the movie. That's simply your opinion. Nothing wrong about that. However, what gives you the right to judge others based on their opinion?
Implying movie taste and quality isn't subjective you fucking moron. Why don't you go back to school and learn the difference between fact and opinion then come back once you have that figured out?
I've not seen it but judging by the few scenes I've watched (including this one) it looks deplorable. But the Rock usually tends to make the unwatchable even slightly watchable 😂love the guy.
I would prefer if such battle scenes would show *two* generals who know their stuff. I mean, come on. Having the cavalry charge over the complete distance, against a stationary shield wall, outdistancing the infantry and turning its line into an unorganized mess that can be picked off by archers, having out-distanced the infantry by a comfortable margin. By the time the infantry reaches the battle, they are winded. What kind of general would employ his troops like that? It makes the "great victory of Hercules" more like a "great blunder by the attacker against some random defender". This is jolting.
A half Samoan half African American playing a Greek.... I can't wait for Hollywood to make a movie about the great greek philosopher Socrates and cast Jackie Chan
Soldiers form a "supposedly" unbreakable wall with shields, while a few strong warriors stand in front and destroy a whole army. Reminds me of Dynasty Warriors 4, when Lu Bu came out of the Hu Lao Gate... He fell off! Quick, steal his horse!!!
I was in Walmart and saw a 3-movie DVD 'Ultimate Warrior' collection, it contained Braveheart, Gladiator, and this film, Hercules. So basically; epic, epic, shit.
Bill Goldberg should have played as Hercules. He has the intensity and that fire to intimidate people. Besides, it would be sweet to see a Hercules super spear. Spear might be so powerful, that it'll split them in half.
This is why you have lines. Rebels without lines vs a Shield Wall and pikes with skirmishers (i guess that's what Adalantia is).... To be fair, it's rebels and wild looking men.
you haven't heard anything cause the movie didn't affect the movie fans. its a shity movie in any way. lets forget that the whole story is 100% wrong. what about the green people? what was that? where is the epickness of a hero like Hercules? he is just a killer with moral issues... thats not inspiring at all. and for once, just for once i was expecting to read some intresting dialogues than the usual pop-corn script. If you read Greek mythology, you will understand why we dispise everything Hollywood does to ancient heroes. The original stories have more plot, better characters, better messages and they go deeper once you deside to search
This you call as shit but imagine in an Indian tamil rajnikant movie version, the hero would have sung & danced all over the battle field while the bow wielding lady would have done some twists and rolls and finally the soldiers would have been killed by his mere look and dialogue. And the people would be drooling for this cinema for a full fuckin' year. Enna?
Yah gotta be the worst commander to send in all your Calvary men separately and randomly instead of joined up in a line as a proper force. Hell im a graphic designer and i could lead this army better than this rebel bloke.
+Darklarik
lol
+Darklarik His army size was larger, commanders with number superiority will do this. There are actually quite a few of them throughout history. Sometimes its best to just overwhelm your enemy with number if you have it but sometimes it doesn't work. The Greeks have a long history being underestimated by larger armies.
+AuomAk No, none of the civilised generals would send their cav down the battlefield at random with huge spaces in between them against a spear formation. Plus, a real horse would not sprint a head on that formation just suiciding, horses are smart animals, they would break the formation and run around them. That is why the square infantry formation was developed, that is why the Holy Roman Empire adopted the snake maneuver - attack the enemy linear formation with the cav, when the horse starts to turn, shoot your gun, load the gun, turn the horse, when it starts to turn on its own, shoot again, load your gun and repeat.
+AuomAk Overwhelming the enemy with superior numbers, yes. Charging from hundreds of meters away, widely spread out, against a massed block of prepared spearmen in tight formation? No way. You march up to them to keep your men in formation as long as possible and prevent early fatique. When possible you move to outflank or at least stretch their lines, so a breakthrough is more easily accomplished which allows you to engulf your enemy. If a head on cavalry charge doesn't seem like it'll break the enemy (which did happen often as a charging horseman is quite terrifying) you don't charge home but save them for when the enemy is locked in combat (easy with superior numbers, especially if the enemy has 0 cavalry). Like +AumAk said, horses are not keen on charging into a forest of enemy spears.
Running into the center of an infantry block one at a time? Come on nobody did this and nobody would order it.
The Persians failed miserably against the greeks on a number of occasions despite their numbers yes, but they didnt use 'tactics' like this. In the famous battles at Marathon and Platea they were mostly being charged by Greeks, while at Thermopolylae they couldn't use their numbers for flanking and instead tried to smash through with massed infantry. Key word massed, not single soldiers.
This was just an over the top movie gorefest, one army of 'bad guy' mindless drones vs the (for now) 'good guys' army which is superb. Also kind of the enemy to mostly leave the supreme solo fighters alone.
Its rather frustrating to watch actually. I want some amount of common sense in movies, yes even in fantasy films.
Just like in most movie battles when once the sides clash they turn into a mass of individual duels instead of keeping formations, why? Hell even riots without commanders somewhat keep their lines. But then you always get the "its just a movie" argument, like thats an excuse for illogical and therefore inferior work.
lol
Spearman vs cavalry, spearman has Bonus vs Mounted (50), spearman wins
+kunven hahah
FORM A FUCKING PIKE FORMATION
Looks like all they really needed were 5 or 6 guys.
Lol!!!!
sddxfcdd
lol
wtf
The Highlight Reel Go away pleb.
Hercules was strong enough to hold up the planet on his shoulders, those soldiers he is hitting should be red mist.
Jordan Smith I think you mean Atlas?
***** No, Hercules went to Atlas and held up the world for a bit while Atlas went to retrieve some apples of immortality from his daughters.
That's from actual Greek mythology, though. This movie is a slightly different take on Hercules in that they're not all that sure he really is all that special or that strong. This version of Hercules uses deception, cunning and the help of his friends to build his reputation and no one's really sure if he's a demigod or not. Not even his friends know for sure. All they know is that he has unusual amounts of strength and a knack for surviving overwhelming odds. In the actual mythological stories, everyone knew Hercules was immensely strong and a demigod.
Jordan Smith oh yess I forgot about that. You're familiar with greek mythology?
***** Somewhat. Not an expert by any means, but im somewhat well informed.
3:03 " that wasn't a part of the script "
LOL
what are you referring to?
OUCH!
I was hoping for the horse flip. That would've been cool. But impossible
I now see why this movie failed.
+rasheedqe
This movie got almost a hundred and fifty percent profit. You calling THAT a fail?
***** I don't care if it made a million percent profit it sucks.
***** Then where is Hercules 2? The movie sucked deal with it.
+rasheedqe
There doesn't have to be a sequel. Even if there has to be a sequel, it's only been twenty months. Some movies take years to announce a sequel.
This movie was a success. Deal with it.
***** Yeah it was a success at convincing people to never watch it.
Glad I didn't purchase a ticket.
3:30 precisely when everyone walked out of theater
So much hate, but all in all this was an entertaining film.
Its just trendy to hate everything.
***** Your troll fu is strong.
Trump hasn't been sworn in yet, he can't do shit until he's in office, and in case you haven't noticed Hilldog is trying to nullify the election results by calling for recounts.
MrJustonemorevo
+MrJustonemorevoice lmfao he's sworn in. So you were saying ? :)
um no, the hate in this film stems from the absolutely ludicrous stupid/unrealistic fight scene and the sheer mythical incompetence of the "Commande's" decisions as i listed above. Its understandable that its fiction and all, but "its just a movie" is not an excuse for this degree of blatant stupidity.
The whole scene is lazy. You have to be really tasteless or oblivious to have enjoyed this...
Darklarik or really high, like I was
The legend of Hercules is the best Hercules movie
Lol I don't even remember watching this movie yet I'm 100 percent positive I did.
i see more the rock acting than hercules..
Godamn if this is the best scene in the movie I don't want to know how cheesy the rest of it is
Much of the rest of the movie is quite surprising, with some unexpected twists.
thats not how archery works
Lol Herc's hype man kills me
Well apart from the fact that Greeks almost didn't use cavalry on the battlefield, chariots were pretty rare, preferred formation was phalanx not this loose I-don't-know-what-formation, shields were quite different, horses didn't have horseshoes, saddles and stirrups and advancing head on those spikes could be considered as suicide for the light cavalry - this looks quite legit.
This is Hollywood. You think they're really concerned with being historically accurate?
this is just awful omg the cheese factor is OVER 9000!!!! 😳👎🏽
DBZ fan spotted!
I like the rock he actually is a perfect actor
This vs the battle of the bastards
battle of the bastards so much better holy shit this movie hurt my soul
+Jonathan San LOOOL ikr
the battle of the Bastards had mistakes. But Rhesus plan is just an insult to any military mind
3:48 that's me during Black Friday sales
That's pretty sad
all for a DVD copy of madea goes to Popeye's
This is the most helpful youtube vid I've seen in ages. Since this is the best scene, I know now that I never want to waste my time seeing the rest.
Xaiano 😂
"In this moment! On this day!" **Skips to fight scene**
Underrated is what the good movie is. It gave a more realistic portrait of the man behind the legend.
No. They mixed both Greek and Roman myths which made this terrible.
Mr. Troll To each their own; I liked it.
fyuxezhhifxrdc ihfi
initial movie scenes were funny and far from reality, reason why it failed.
ankushzap To me it felt like a good throwback to the days of old Hollywood making sword and sandal flicks. In contrast to todays movies where characters can fly, heal from any wounds, and have lasers shoot from their eyes, this one seemed like a grounded story about the man behind the myth.
they just flail wildly and soldiers happen to be standing where their blows fall.
Was I supposed to fall asleep halfway through?
You guys think this is good?
Lol smh.
Quality has so deteriorated that shit has become what people enjoy.
This is ass.
tAlh
And what qualifies you to determine the quality of a movie? Fucking sack of shit.
Red Law lol I've been watching movies for most of my life, just like pretty much everyone.
What other qualifier does one need in order to assess comparative quality in a film?
Get a clue.
Hercules the Legendary Journeys shits on this.
Umad?
agiftedrighter.com Well than speak for yourself. I mean, I understand that you don't like the movie. That's simply your opinion. Nothing wrong about that. However, what gives you the right to judge others based on their opinion?
Implying movie taste and quality isn't subjective you fucking moron. Why don't you go back to school and learn the difference between fact and opinion then come back once you have that figured out?
this movie should have been a TV show
Thanks for making this video
I liked the part where he hit the people with the club. That was the best.
Kind of movies which made me stop givin money to cinemas.
I've not seen it but judging by the few scenes I've watched (including this one) it looks deplorable. But the Rock usually tends to make the unwatchable even slightly watchable 😂love the guy.
pep talk to a professional army, loving it.
I would prefer if such battle scenes would show *two* generals who know their stuff. I mean, come on. Having the cavalry charge over the complete distance, against a stationary shield wall, outdistancing the infantry and turning its line into an unorganized mess that can be picked off by archers, having out-distanced the infantry by a comfortable margin. By the time the infantry reaches the battle, they are winded.
What kind of general would employ his troops like that? It makes the "great victory of Hercules" more like a "great blunder by the attacker against some random defender". This is jolting.
A half Samoan half African American playing a Greek.... I can't wait for Hollywood to make a movie about the great greek philosopher Socrates and cast Jackie Chan
i am not afraid of army of lions led by a sheep but i am afraid of the army of sheeps led by a lion.....
udyr is that you?
Lol
At 0:37
The soldiers shouted "DEMACIA"!
+The Antic Dealer Oh shit!
+The Antic Dealer Oh shit!
it's definitely not udyr, no doubt about it.
Soldiers form a "supposedly" unbreakable wall with shields, while a few strong warriors stand in front and destroy a whole army.
Reminds me of Dynasty Warriors 4, when Lu Bu came out of the Hu Lao Gate... He fell off! Quick, steal his horse!!!
rock rocking performance ..... it's a called rockwar
"IT DOES'NT MATTER WHAT YOU THINK!!!"
I was in Walmart and saw a 3-movie DVD 'Ultimate Warrior' collection, it contained Braveheart, Gladiator, and this film, Hercules. So basically; epic, epic, shit.
if this is the best battle than im glad I didn't waste my time with this movie
Hercules = Superman :P
Most badass Ian McShane moment ever
I haven't seen this movie, but it figures the rock would be Hercules
Bill Goldberg should have played as Hercules. He has the intensity and that fire to intimidate people. Besides, it would be sweet to see a Hercules super spear. Spear might be so powerful, that it'll split them in half.
if this is the best fight scene, ill pass on this movie
Sticks and stones may break my bones but The Rock never breaks.
Hercules is the rock in acting
Thats the Rock damn!
At 3:02 the guy that ran into the shieldwall failed miserably and the guys were like, "hey how's it going?"
man this movie sucked
yeah
Whoever watched this movie for a good story and plot came for the wrong reasons. The action was top notch tho.
Thats taktik only greek peoples doing this so we winning we are the world dude
I can't take any movie seriously with Dwayne in it
I was so pumped for this movie but I was the most disappointed guy in that theater when it was over
Holy shit!
this is good, why haven't i seen this movie.
who else felt sorry for the horse at the end 😓
Indeed a great scene
this movie its my favorite
who else knew hercules is the rock rn or dwayne johnson.
i know dwayne is a famous actor, but when he speech, it feels like the wwe
Funny, the archers never seem to run out of arrows. What bollocks!
artemis holy shit, so hot and powerful
Very Good!!!
Hercules has been BLACKSAMOANWASHED!
hercules, the rock
that guy looks like Dwane"THE ROCK"Johnson is it really him
"
Man, I'm so glad I didn't watch this movie. Judging from the scene it looked like utter crap
"Hercules" Best Fight Scenes were in the movie "The Rundown".
brilliant fighting video
This is why you have lines. Rebels without lines vs a Shield Wall and pikes with skirmishers (i guess that's what Adalantia is)....
To be fair, it's rebels and wild looking men.
that one fucking part when he flip the horse i almost pee my pants LMAOOO 4:51
Rock is super actor...
Arrawa Somewhatto hold up the planet on his shoulders, those soldiers he is hitting should be red mistHercules was strong.OOO!!!
I laughed when the guy bumped into the shield on purpose...
3:20 Ok, THAT was badass
those volley of fire arrows completetly missed that guy
can ya SMELLL'ELL'ELLL'ELLL what the Rock is cookin?!
Lol that last line...
"fucking centaurs" lmfao I died. This movie may have been complete trash but at least The Rock made it somewhat entertaining.
Dwayne "The Hercules Rock" Johnson
I liked it
Excellent movie
Kindly watch telugu.. BAHUBALI movie too
"fucking centaurs"
-Hercules
those triceps though
That s great keep good earn job
The Rock......... how is the Rock good and commanding a ARMY!!!
I like the scene of flaming arrow and the old thug
You don't see Greeks complaining that Hercules is being portrayed by a Black dude.
You're right. Nowadays only white people can be called "racist" by the politically "correctness".
p.s.: I think The Rock is Polynesian.
Yeah! I am Greek myself, but I love Dwayne Johnson as Hercules! Apparently he is "Black Nova Scotian" (his dad) and Samoan (mother).
Well I lived in Greece at the time this movie came out and didn't hear nothing. No idea what u are saying
you haven't heard anything cause the movie didn't affect the movie fans. its a shity movie in any way. lets forget that the whole story is 100% wrong. what about the green people? what was that? where is the epickness of a hero like Hercules? he is just a killer with moral issues... thats not inspiring at all. and for once, just for once i was expecting to read some intresting dialogues than the usual pop-corn script. If you read Greek mythology, you will understand why we dispise everything Hollywood does to ancient heroes. The original stories have more plot, better characters, better messages and they go deeper once you deside to search
that thumbnail XD
braveheart ,,,,the best MOVIE ,,,Celtic(clets!!!) by the grace of the gods
just amazing
LMAO, that nigga just stood in a rain of arrows and lived omg. lol
Me and my fam when I see a unicorn 🦄 😂
DJ should grow the beard for real
i kinda want to watch the legend of hercules
Not a great movie, but I loved the spear guy
"Maybe not" 😂
I love Rock
This you call as shit but imagine in an Indian tamil rajnikant movie version, the hero would have sung & danced all over the battle field while the bow wielding lady would have done some twists and rolls and finally the soldiers would have been killed by his mere look and dialogue. And the people would be drooling for this cinema for a full fuckin' year. Enna?
En iyi Herkül uyarlamasıydı bana göre.
The End...credits roll
Form a shield wall and make Rhesus pay for it!
the enemy general must be the worst strategist i've ever seen
+sanderslgreat
Enemy has an army composed of mainly pikemen/spearmen and hardly any cavalry.
Let's charge our cavalry directly at their phalanx!
+zhenoob
what a great idea! victory is ours for sure!
You missed the people's elbow and the 1, 2, 3 count at the end