NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN | MOVIE REVIEW
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- Reviewing No Country for Old Men.
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No Country for Old Men is a 2007 American neo-Western crime thriller film written and directed by Joel and Ethan Coen, based on Cormac McCarthy's 2005 novel of the same name. Starring Tommy Lee Jones, Javier Bardem, and Josh Brolin, the film is set in the desert landscape of 1980 West Texas. The film revisits the themes of fate, conscience, and circumstance that the Coen brothers had explored in the films Blood Simple (1984), Raising Arizona (1987), and Fargo (1996). The film follows three main characters: Llewelyn Moss (Brolin), a Vietnam War veteran and welder who stumbles upon a large sum of money in the desert; Anton Chigurh (Bardem), a mysterious hitman who is tasked with recovering the money; and Ed Tom Bell (Jones), a local sheriff investigating the crime. The film also stars Kelly Macdonald as Moss's wife Carla Jean, and Woody Harrelson as a bounty hunter seeking Moss and the return of the $2 million.
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"Tell my mother I love her."
"Llewyn, your mom is dead."
"Then I guess I´m gonna tell her myself."
Always gets me. Great and very informative discussion!
The ending, honestly, is so good in hindsight because it's a layered review of the movie's main theme, the feeling of being overmatched.
While, yes, Bell's dream about the fire being carried does serve as an affirmation of Bell's views and beliefs, it carries an altogether different meaning when placed in the context of his life situation. The words "then I woke up," I feel, serve to dismantle those same views like a harsh wake-up call. The world has always been a cruel place, and good men have always died.
This scene alone makes it one of my favorite movies.
The after movie reviews are great, the reaction is fresh and the excitement is tangible from the sheer speed of words flying out of her mouth 😅
My mom is older than her father was by several years, and we've talked about that before. It's a very surreal thing to live beyond your parent's age. Mom really admires her father, and she still leans on his wisdom, even though she has more life experience than he did when he passed.
People that don’t love the ending don’t want to be intellectually stimulated and challenged. They want to turn off their brain and be entertained. Nothing wrong with it… but they are missing out on power messages and themes. Movies like this one make you think in so many ways. And you can’t not think about it for several days after. Masterpiece.
Regarding your comments on how 100 other directors would have shown the oncoming car approaching Anton at the end, one thing that struck me was that the choice not to do that was foreshadowed in the conversation between Llewellyn and the gal at the motel pool. Namely that, even if you're looking out for what's coming, life will still blindside you. I presume that was intentional (it's a Coen Brothers movie after all), and it feeds into your take on how Llewellyn and Anton's scenes interplay together.
The scene with Anton and the milk glass is one of my favorites, and it is so brilliant.
I like to believe that Anton never actually drank the milk (notice it never showed him drinking anything, but we see Sheriff Bell drink some). Anton knew Sheriff Bell and the authorities would come looking for Llewelyn so he sat the milk out on the table to fool them into believing they were right on Llewelyn’s heels when in reality they were miles from him.
Notice Sheriff Bell arrives to every crime scene so late after so much plot development has occurred that even we as the audience have already forgotten the crime and moved on. It seems everyone else was able to locate Llewelyn with ease except for Sheriff Bell.
Another thing I find interesting is that Sheriff Bell never even pursues Anton, but rather tries to save Llewelyn instead because Llewelyn’s plight is probably the only thing he understands.
It’s safe to say that not a single character in this film got what they wanted or satisfied their desires. Not even Anton. The ending reveals that he too is becoming old and susceptible to disorder, changing times, and fate. In a sense, the country itself is the greatest antagonist. It holds the same level of brutal indifference towards human life that Anton does. Cormac could have gone down the complete metaphorical route with Anton’s character (having him ultimately represent the lawless country) but he was a “humanized” antagonist - not in likability but in relatability once we see that he bleeds and breaks bones like the rest of us. If I had to choose between Anton and nature, I’d choose Anton because at least he flips a coin and lets you call your fate. Nature doesn’t give us the option. You could survive a bullet to the chest only to drop dead from a heart attack a day later.
There are so many subtleties and nuances in this film that I’m convinced we will keep finding new ones every time we rewatch it. Even things Cormac, the Coens, and the entire production team didn’t even intend.
A very thoughtful comment about this masterpiece of a movie! You mentioned things that I haven't thought of or noticed before. You're definitely right: there are so many subtleties in this movie that you will every time you rewatch it new ones. I enjoyed reading your comment very much. :)
@@gabe6550 Thank you for your nice reply! This film is the epitome of why I love filmmaking and storytelling so much. I find that great films don’t shove existentialism and social commentary down your throat, but rather hide them in subtext and subtleties. But the main reason I love it so much is because it brings people together in conversation about things we often can’t find the space to talk about publicly.
Imo..
Anton killed the wife but bc she didn't call the coin it broke Anton's own fate.
She forced him to make a decision, while to this point whether true or not he viewed all his actions as fate, unchangeable only reactive to the universe not proactive.
I like to think that's what he was questioning when he got hit by the car he lost his 'super senses' if you will bc he was no longer an agent of the universe but an individual who had made his own decision an was no longer protected by fate.
When I first watched I tried to think of ways she lived bc the actress is so likeable but ultimately Imo the most powerful theme is she died but destroyed Anton's ethos w her death.
Its also interesting to me how the men he actually talks with face to face are afraid of him. The gas station attendant doesn't fully know the danger he's in, but he's still very uncomfortable. Harrelson's character is supposedly some sort of badass and he straight up begs for his life. On the flipside the two women don't give a fuck. The trailer park attendant also doesn't really know the danger she's in, but she just assertively tells him no. The wife knows full well she's probably about to die, but she just refuses to play along with his game.
Most of the women in the film are stronger and more stable than the men. From Bell’s wife who is just watching and waiting for him to “wake up” to what he has, to his assistant who “every day dedicated herself anew”. Carla Jean shows you in the beginning that she has strength because she isn’t afraid of Llewelyn even though he acts so tough… “big talk”. Just like Margie in Fargo.
Based on the novel by Cormac McCarthy, the title of "No Country for Old Men" is taken from the first line of a poem called "Sailing to Byzantium" (Yeats). Written in his early sixties, Yeats wrote it as a metaphor for the passage of life.
Love these reviews! Keep 'em coming and I really think they added so much depth to your content.
I read that the shadows in the television and on the wall at the end is the shadow of his father and he lives in the shadow of his father.
Probably the best reaction/discussion I’ve seen about this flick. The book is short, good, and all the scenes you love are even more detailed and amazing, (the coin toss scene, and his final talk with Carson, especially expand on his “philosophy.”) the Coen Brothers said the book basically is a screenplay, it’s very short, direct, almost procedural.
All Mccarthys books are great especially the border trilogy
The movie's one of my all-time favorites too really because how incredible the main characters and the interactions between them are potrayed. Anton especially is such a complex and intriguing character, there's never enough to talk about him.
Cormac McCarthy deserves all the credit for the source material and characters (it’s from his novel), and the Coen brothers deserve all the credit for turning into an amazing screenplay and adaptation for film. Such an amazing movie.
Nice, my trivia piece made it haha! Honestly, your channel is really on top form. Found it through Saving Private Ryan, stuck around for Band of Brothers and was hooked at Lord of the Rings. Awesome content and I love the reviews too.
Oh and yes, No Country for Old Men is not only one of my favourite from the Coen brothers, it's one of my favourite films in general.
Really enjoyed your discussion of one of my two favorite movies made since the year 2000. Both of you are smart and insightful. There were a couple things upon which I hold a slightly different POV, but overall we have much and hearty agreement. Masterpiece of a film, and that's no hyperbole.
I know these review discussions will never do numbers like viewings but man this is what movies are about.
Remember loving going to movies as a kid because the car ride home as much as anything just going over what we experienced what it meant what was funny what was sad what was awesome. Keep it up.
I enjoyed your discussion and analysis. You should know that the Coen brothers followed the McCarthy novel without altering any significant element. The script, if I remember correctly, is nearly word for word from the novel. Arguably, a major part of the genius of the Coen brothers was to realize that McCarthy's novel was already a perfect film treatment as it stood.
I remember going back and forth to Juarez a couple times from El Paso back in 79 , wasn’t a big deal but always felt a little sketchy, probably wouldn’t go now though, thanks again really enjoyed your reaction and after movie analysis
Loved the review and your commentary!....as someone who grew up in a law enforcement family in Texas, this movie actually hits close to home. Anton Chigurh is a force that is unleashed. There is a overarching aspect to this movie which is interesting. Chigurgh is a pawn in a purely managerial way. A deadly pawn, nonetheless. But Tommy Lee Jones is the king of his board. That dynamic and the initial/ final lines make it (for me at least) fascinating to view how people deal with rapid and substantial change. This movie is a masterpiece
In the debate of whether Anton’s a serial killer or a hitman, he’s probably both.
(Additionally on the psychopathy of hired guns. High levels of psychopathy aren’t necessarily a requirement, the motivation is that it’s a paying job that people are willing to pay a lot for, more that it’s a natural fit with the occupation to lack empathy. eg. there are high levels of psychopathy with those who are successful in business)
The only sign I see that he has the impulse to kill is with Carla Jean, all of the killings seem to have a practical purpose rather than just being impulse, but he does seem like he’d be killing anyway even if he didn’t have money to gain 😛
(Even the situation with the clerk could just be practical; him covering his tracks since the clerk recognised his license plate, but also having some wiggle room for kismet)
This was a great reaction and review!
Something I didn't notice till a friend mentioned it on the way out of the theater: That movie had no soundtrack. Like there is no music unless its coming from a radio or tv in that movie. And I'm not sure there ever is one.
Great takes on this amazing movie - it really took me quite a bit after a first watch to make sense of the framing and ending, but I (once again) totally agree with your interpretation.
Side note - learning that Woody Harrelson’s dad in real life was a hitman added another punch of spice to this movie for me. Also, after 20+ years of successful movie-careers for them, these were (for me) just _defining_ roles for Tommy Lee Jones and Josh Brolin. Absolutely amazing.
In the book - Lewellen takes the money out and counts it - and puts it back. Because of time and urgency he puts the money back quickly and didn't notice the tracker inside a pile of $1 bills. It bugged my that he never counted the money in the movie - which is the first thing I would do - but in the book he did count it.
The case with the money is the same one they used in Fargo. Continuing the theme of greed, power, and corruption.
One point I think worth mentioning is the brief suggestion that several main characters ( definitely Llewelyn and Carson, and likely Anton) learned and honed their survival skills while serving in the Vietnam war.
....i really like the in-depth reactions after the initial viewing............you two are really good. thanks for posting.
Interesting bit of trivia, Woody Harrelson's father is in prison for murder, he was an actual hitman.
Just finished watching the movie reaction, so this is a perfect follow up. The combo is much better than a too short commentary tagged on the end of the reaction.
Kelly MacDonald plays Llewelyn’s wife in the film and she definitely does have a proper Scottish accent. It’s really funny that you said her accent would be good for a cartoon character but she was the voice actor for Merida in the movie Brave, which as you may or may not know is a movie about a Scottish girl learning about an old Scottish legend. So I think you may have said that on purpose but maybe it was just a coincidence. Kudos! I love these movie reviews. They are really what I’m looking for after a movie reaction. Keep doing what you’re doing!!!
So glad to hear that! people told us it was a bad idea to separate so i'm glad to hear you're liking it. I feel like it gives us a chance to get way more into it than a small post thoughts afterward.
Great review guys.
My "coin" story: A month or so ago, I rode the bus to work. Got off at the stop and walked across the hospital parking lot. As I was moving through an empty parking space, a car with out-of-state plates pulled in but the driver was distracted by her cell phone and almost hit me… If you break down all the things that had to happen for me and that car to meet at that exact moment, it’s mind blowing. 1) car had to leave that morning at the exact time it did, 2) had to spend the exact amount of time in traffic (traffic lights, time at stop signs, etc all had to happen just as it happened), 3) driver had to receive a call, get distracted, etc. Then my trip on the bus, my choice of walking path, that exact empty parking space -- all had to happen exactly as it happened…
You guys should totally do Miller's Crossing, Raising Arizona and Barton Fink, you're consistently picking all the Coens' best stuff so that would just complete the set.
Both Fargo the film and the 1st Season of the Series is amazing. Anton and Malvo (Billy Bob Thornton) in Fargo are the same entity, death, a ghost. I'd hate to see Anton and Malvo either on same team or opponents.
you just reminded me of the Gary Oldman and Tim Roth film "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead", talking about Tommy Lee's character witnessing this opera play out . 2 characters in a Shakespearean play, oblivious to the main plot but get inescapably drawn into the story, while all they want to do is debate philosophy and chat the shit with each other. Oh i'd love to see Arianna's reaction to the shining, i think a psychological analysis of Jack Nicholson's character would be fascinating
A reaction to the Coens' first film, Blood Simple needs to happen. It's a perfect companion piece to this film.
Hitmen are doing a job, they are making money. A serial killer does it for personal reasons/enjoyment. Woody Harrelson's father was a hitman, and killed a judge.
This is my favorite movie ever, and I believe one of the best of all time.Three of my favorite scenes are some of the briefest in the movie; the peanuts wrapper on the counter and the sound it makes as it expands, the scene when Anton is coming to the door of the trailer park office and his silhouette makes a growing pyramid shape on the window, and the fact that both Anton and the sheriff sit on the same couch in the Moss' trailer house and are both reflected in the TV. BTW, Ellis is Sheriff Bells uncle, not brother. I thought the same thing when I first watched it, but no. EDIT:If I were going to redo the ending, I would have Llewellyn and Anton kill each other, with the money scattered over their bodies from the briefcase. Sheriff Bell turning up to find them and realizing what a waste it all was.
Try watching 'Miller's Crossing' too. It is also a movie by Coen Brothers, and has same calm 'chess game'-'smart people making smart moves' plot.
That scene with Anton and Carla puts a completely different spin on the whole movie, and I love that we don't really know whether he killed her because she lost the coin toss or because she still refused to call it. I like to believe the latter, but maybe that's just "vanity". Either way, she definitely got into his head in a big way. What fascinates me about Anton is that he offered her the coin toss in the first place (why would he bother going there at all if there was a chance he was just going to walk away?). Anton felt the same way about her and what she represented to him that Bell felt about Anton ("this is something I don't understand and I can't come to terms with it"). For a psychopath who is addicted to the power and control he has over people, he simply can't cope with the idea that something made him the way he is and, more importantly, it could've gone very differently. In the light of determinism, his ethos, it's kind of tempting to think of Anton as "enlightened", when in fact, and much to his surprise, his views are a lot more unique to him and his experience than they seem. That conversation was probably worse to him than the car crash was. Quite the enigma. And so like the Coens to just let a character like that run wild instead of giving you a whole lot of backstory.
Then why did he check the bottom of his boot for blood? We saw him with Woody, and after he shot him Anton lifted his boots so they would not be soiled by the expanding blood.
Carla was between him and the door. So one might extrapolate Anton had to step over the blood she leaked when he blasted her into the next world.
Just an opinion.
@@michaelleath7047 I'm not disputing that he killed her. My thought was that maybe she recognized how crazy he was, that he would only do it if the coin told him to. Would he be able to live with himself afterward if she never made the call?
Oooo... A nice, long discussion, here. Can't wait. Gotta watch the reaction first. I'll be back! ;)
Haha I wanted to say I think you may not have much experience with rural folk. They are resourceful as shit. Any one of my uncles or cousins can bale some hay, stain a porch, clean and repair a gun, etc. etc. without watching a RUclips video on it, even if they weren't specifically ever taught how to do it. Like they just know how to do things haha it's crazy.
They might not know calculus but they have an intuition and ingenuity I admire and find fascinating. It's crazy how inventive you can get or perhaps have to be when you don't live 1 minute from a grocery store and spend your childhood in front of a TV.
I did grow up with rural folk and was one. My point is how Hollywood depicts rural folk vs this movie.
Hollywood films use rural folk as idiot bumpkins and we've been trained to expect someone with an accent to be a dullard. The coens consistently buck this trend
@@Diegesis Well, to be clear, not sure who I'm talking to but I'm not even sure I saw this part of the discussion, especially if it was toward the end. So my apologies if I missed a clarification on this.
I was just talking about Arianna saying he has to be a criminal or have experience in the same vein as like Carson because of his quick thinking with for example the tentpoles. And I was just thinking if I was say in this situation with one of my cousins I could TOTALLY see them being like "ok we need to buy a tent" and me just kinda tagging along in confusion as he manufactures some crazy shit. Then I'm like "how do you know how to do that?" and he just looks at me confused and says some shit like "well it's got to be done don't it?"
Oh we talked about how the coens frame characters that are known for being dumb on screen so I figured you were referencing that conversation
Loved this review. I would like to say about what you said at 41:48. Javier Bardem is definitely not in Watchmen, although they kind of look similar.
Oh did I say that. God I always get those poor guys mixed up. Harry Dean Stanton right?
@@Diegesis I had to look it up lol his name is Jeffrey Dean Morgan. They look super similar in my opinion.
Last comment, in regards to hitman serial killers, the movie shottas has a character that's a gangster who kills for business but as he kills more and more he becomes psychotic and enjoys the death. Not the main character but a side characters stroy going on in the background
In Maple's watch of Drive I said that the film is my favorite to come from the 2010s. When thinking of what my favorite film of the 2000s is, two of the Lord of the Rings films kind of compete but whenever I'm actually asked No Country is always the first that comes to my mind. It is magnificent perfection. I would change literally nothing about it. Not one thing.
After hearing y'all talk about hitmen vs serial killers, I'm curious if you've ever seen the Australian show Mr. Inbetween. It's uh-mazing but no one ever talks about it. It's centered on a hitman and other aspects of his life. Highly recommend.
I love that shotgun silencer
I never went to any booklearning school but maybe if you parse the title... the oldliness of the titular characters could represent their diminishing landscape.. and the dream described at the end, literally lit with imagination as described by his brother, maybe only because we can never know the depth or detail of eternity. The country they speak of is anyone's guess
Josh Brolin playing Tommy Lee Jones in Men in Black 3 was the best, his imitation was spot on , thanks
This is the best analysis I’ve ever seen on this movie thanks
I always thought it would've been interesting if when we last see Anton chigurh he were either mortally wounded or dead as a result of the crash because I think something as random as a car crash would be the perfect way for his character to die. Not that I dislike the ending we got (I quite like it) but I think it would've been interesting the other way too
I prefer him dying. It avoids the feeling that some God or something always punishes the wicked. Sometimes the wicked get a bunch of money and get away
3:26 A "just doing his job" hitman wouldn't have bothered killing Llewelyn's wife.
I dont think the coin tosses were a part of Antons thing. I just think they were a way for him to "avoid" responsibility if he ends up killing someone he doesn't necessarily want to or need to. Like I get the feeling he didn't actually want to kill the store clerk but for whatever reason felt he might "need" to. He seems to be relieved, to an extent, when the guy chooses right. Then with Carla Jean at the end of the movie I think he decides to do it just because he doesn't see a need to kill her but she is connected to Llewelyn and Llewelyn gave him such problems but then she challenges him which of course leads to him killing her without the toss and that is what throws off his whole thing.
Do "Barton Fink". I think that's MY favorite Coen Brothers movie.
Wasn't Bardem in Watchmen, but Jeffrey Dean Morgan of Walking Dead fame. They look very similar, though.
Bardem has had great success for sure: mother, Skyfall, etc.
Why does he fill the 3 gallon water holder to the absolute top? I always wondered about that. I think it is very deliberate. If alive, a small bottle would be the wounded guys saviour, 3 gallons overcompensating the lead characters consiense.
I think the car crash at the end clearly shows what you've brought up: Chigurgh is shocked because he's being shown that he isn't an agent of destiny, but destiny itself has its cards and he's just another pawn in the game. He thinks he's eternal and comes to the realization he isn't, connecting his situation to that of Jones' character whose dream talks about death.
I think Anton and Llywelyn are one person. Anton was invented by the sheriff, he is chasing a ghost.
42:10 "Old Country for No Men" 🤣
Hahaha I caught that too
Your convo about cops retiring at the end of the movie reminded me of Falling Down. If you haven't reacted to that, yet, you must.
Josh Brolin plays Tommy Lee Jones in Men In Black 3
Another cool thing you did with this movie is that I don't know if he killed her in the end he might have let her live he might have killed her and there's no hint one way or the other because of all of his other interactions with the coin he very well may be could have let her live or kill her but the fact that they don't hint at that at all which way he went
They do hint that he killed her.
He twice in the movie makes it a point to keep blood off of his boots.
When he leaves her house he checks the bottom of both of his boots. He's checking for blood
@@Diegesis I didn't catch that
@@lothsper I didn't too. Like what is the point of checking the boots after going through the whole house?
You do know that he killed Carla at the end, yeah... When he walked out, he checked his shoes for blood... It was subtle, but it was certain... Afterall, he did promise...
Yeah we know
The boys on the bikes, playing cards in the spokes. Kids. Giving the shirt off his back. Taking blood money. Corrupted.
great review, but i wish you would have let her talk more.
I feel like Tommy Lee Jones was saying in his dream his dad was waiting for him with a warm campfire out there in the darkness but then he woke up as in he knows that that's not true that the world is just horrible and there's nothing waiting for him
27:30 I think the exact opposite of your interpretation of the Sheriff's second dream, I would agree with you if it were not for the last line, "And then I woke up." Indicating that his dream was just that, a dream, not how reality works...there is no justice, no one is waiting for you out there in the darkness, there is just the darkness of reality...so why not retire? What is the point of doing a job you can't even understand anymore?
It seems like just about everything you really liked about the movie and attributed (wrongly) to the Coen brothers was already there in McCarthy's novel. There were, of course, scenes in the novel that the Coens cut for the movie, so they can be evaluated on this "editing" of the book. And of course, the cinematorgraphic choices were all theirs, and they handled that task perfectly. The last thing that can be attributed to the Coens is simply the choice to make a movie from this book and to adapt it so faithfully, which was perfect for them.
To see another adaptation by the Coens that was completely faithful to the original, see their remake of True Grit. There, the Coens' adaptation was much better than the original.
Hi, you both forgot to mention that "Sheriff bell, Anton Chigur, and Llewellyn Moss never see each other face to face alive, but have been close encounters, Carla is the only one to see them all. Sheriff bell only sees certain people he encounters dies after he talks to them and he's always late and it's a crime scene. He's too old to catch up to early clues like in his prime.
Chigurh wasn't a serial killer. He was more of a " fixer" . if you had a problem with something or someone, he would take care of it.
I'm 63 - as I age I feel like I'm being squeezed out into non relevance - after having been a frontline father/husband/provider/caretaker for 35 years. It's like I'm being pushed to the side as my sons become accomplished professionals with their own families taking my place on the totem pole. No County for Old Men - resonates with me as I age - and become marginalized to my own family.
I guess the idea is that, that's the cycle of life. after your children cleave from the nest, society expects you to move into the quiet grandparent role until you die.
I'm 33 and i'm already not engaged with in an excited way. when you're in our 20's people are excited for you and what you will do and become but at my age people just expect me to get on with it and the focus is on those younger than me.
the upswing of life is short and we're in the down trend. the universe has no empathy for us.
@@Diegesis - You're going to have a hell of a long time to fester on this movie and your personal relevance in association with the people around you. I never anticipated that my own children would be the source of my life force demise. I love them to death - and damn proud of them and their accomplishments - but the price of those feelings is counter balanced by the ebb tide of your own being as you fade away to eventual dust. Don't worry - I have a counseling appointment next Thursday to help me through the fog of ageing.
Anton’s a agent of chance buts he isn’t above chance seen as at the end he’s hit by a car.
I like the fact that he lowered the camera angle on her side to make it look like he is not as short as he is, a real Tom Cruise moment.
1. I'm taller than her
2. I still set it up so she looks taller
3. Her chair is much taller
4. I wanted our eye lines to be more even
So go to hell my dude
@@Diegesis What you said contradicts what you said while saying it , so you can eat turds.
The flaw with Anton’s coin flip philosophy is that he makes people call heads or tails without telling them what the two specifically represent. He’s the only one that decides which side means what. It would be more in the hands of fate if he told them beforehand like two-face does “heads you live, tails you die.” Anton never says which means the decision is always his and he could simply change the rules of the coin toss as he pleases. One day heads could mean you live and the next day it means you die.
FARGO next and there will be blood, two of my favorites, no country being number 1
We already did fargo
Check out Boardwalk, an HBO Series. She is in it.
The exorcist movie scariest movie of all time I double dog dare you to review it and watch it
Morgan Freeman not retiring in Seven is debatable. If he said something like "I'm not going anywhere" is more suggestive that he didn't retire since he's talking right to his Captain but saying "I'll be around" leaves room for interpretation. You may be right but I've seen Seven maybe 20-30 times and I felt like Morgan Freeman def could've retired in the end. "I'll be around" suggests to me that instead of Freeman turning his back completely to this life like he planned on doing and retiring, that maybe he still retired but is willing to help in any way he can when it comes to Pitt or any cases they may need help with. So saying "Ill be around" directly to his boss to me actually suggests maybe he did retire but again You could be right. Btw, it's not lost on me that the last line of the movie is the Hemingway poem and Freeman says he agrees that the world was worth saving, which can suggest he didn't retire, sooo.... i could be wrong lol idk cool debate tho
All fair points. I would never suggest that it's a closed case. Plenty of room for interpretation. I just personally read it that way. Especially when they make a big meal out of his retirement the whole movie. It feels cleaner screenplay wise
Hate to be that guy but Javier isn't in watchmen. That was Jeffery Dean Morgan.
yeah i always f that up
Jungian point of view: Anton is sheriff's shadow
I caught myself thinkin in silence about this review for about 10 minutes. That's gotta a count for something, or else, the brain is goin
Not necessarily in the same vein, but I would like to see a reaction for There Will Be Blood.
Also, this is a movie that I enjoyed when I first saw it, but I enjoy it more every time I watch it. It's like I peel off a new layer every time.
She should have played the coin so at least she had a 50% chance of surviving him... Otherwise of course he's just going to shoot. He was set to get her, but he gave her a coin toss.....
Thats why he made the kid take the money. He couldnt handle general help. He left that property manager be too. He had some respect for her sticking to her decision of no information
I'd personally argue that Anton was fully intending to murder that woman, as Carson says in the film, for "inconveniencing him". The only reason he didn't was because the toilet flushed, tipping Anton off that they weren't alone in the office. He didn't "respect" her for challenging him, he LOATHED her, but he couldn't justify jeopardizing his main mission for a personal vendetta. After all, we see how challenging Anton works out for Carla Jean at the end of the movie (well, we don't see it necessarily, but Anton's reaction to her challenge and the boot wiping after he leaves heavily indicates how that plays out).
@@pukkoku i can see that. But after the entire 2nd hotel situation. That guy in the bathroom was nothing to worry about for him, and the attack on the headquarters or whatever it was. I see your point though.
@@pukkoku also carlas situation was different. He already promised to kill her well before he was there. He gave her a chance with the coin which seemed extremely generous for him.
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It’s funny, I was 13 or so when I first saw this and I HATED the last 3rd of the movie. I’d been conditioned by Hollywood that I expected Llewelyn and Bell to team up, kill Anton and ride off into the sunset and I lost my shit when Llewelyn died OFFSCREEN lol. I had to mature to really appreciate how much of a masterpiece this film is and just the basic truth that life isn’t a movie, and there never were “good old days” where the good guys won and the bad guys lost.
Same exact thing. Saw it when I was like 18 and hated the end too.
Now it's in my top 5 of all time
omg your intro about serial killers and hitmen and sociopaths is highly amusing.
This is Siskol and Ebert. Lol
Cosmological nihilism. I like it
I love this review, but I have to say I totally disagree with your take about the ending. Mrs. Moss did not win or get a rise out of him in the slightest. To me, Chighur's whole philosophy is about chance. That's why he gives some of his victims the benefit of the coin toss, because he knows everything is just grim, pitiless, random chance. So when she Mrs. Moss says it's not the coin, it's just you, Chighur checkmates the shit out of her with the most underrated line in the history of movies:
"I got here the same way the coin did."
Meaning, the distinction we make between choice and chance is a false one, in Chighur's philosophy - it's ALL chance. That he is who he is, and that he is constructed in the way he's constructed, that he's the specific kind of sociopath he is who makes the kind of choices he makes - THAT'S CHANCE TOO!. It's chance all the way down!
So, no, I'm sorry, Mrs Moss did not win that debate, she did not get a rise out of him. I feel like you're not taking the full ride of the real nihlism and darkness of the film by giving yourself a "feel good" out that somehow Mrs. Moss won that exchange. He bodied her with that one line; that line IMO is the key to his whole philosophy. There is no difference between you and the coin; there is no difference between human choice and random chance. The belief that there is a difference is an illusion.
You get your hands on money like that, skip the country and disappear.
I personally don't believe there is a main character. It's a story of three men that live by certain principles, and the choices they make due to these principles. All three have their principles and ethics challenged, and only one of them sees the need to change. Which is the right decision, the other two, are too self deluded and far too vane. At the beginning of the film, you see three windmills blowing in the wind, going where the wind takes them. That's basically how life is, you're carried through life, with no true control over the events that happen to you. The only thing you do have control over, is how you react to what happens.
Javier Bardem is not in watchmen that is Jeffrey Dean Morgan if you were thinking of the comedian
You are correct
did YOU say Tommy Lee Jones is "the tits????" you're awesome. best compliment ever.
They saw his face. That's why he kills those two.
You guys do realize Anton kills Carla, right?
Yup. We talk about it in the review
@@Diegesis I must have missed that part.
How does he kill her though?
React to " there will be blood"
Did you notice that he was cleaning his shoes when he was leaving the house in the end the theory is that she didn't win the coin toss hmmmmmm
Bruh... hold off and let her talk a little more
He just wanted to talk about it so he selfishly asked her to watch it.. LOL
@@spinningbackkick6021 that's is honestly how it felt
@@maniac50ae14 It went like "Hey you remember that part from that movie" and she was like I never seen that "What you have to watch so we can discuss" then proceeds to nerds out over a 15 year old movie and she barely remembers what she just saw..LOL
I don't know bout er-body else, but Anton cHigurh off tops is my favoritest kharAcTer in da whole movie! 'Kause in most movies, Im usually pullin for da bad guy to get away....
SHUH-GUR, my queen.
Nothing against an engaged, animated and excited narration but that woman is too much! No manners, talks over her partner. And all her "m-hm, yeah, absolutely, right right right" utterings, jeebuz! Can't she shut up and just listen for a single second? Very distracting. :(
There will be blood is better