The rise of the 'tradwife' • FRANCE 24 English

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  • Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
  • So what is a "trad-wife"? Well, it’s internet shorthand for traditional wives. We take a look at the women influencers extolling the virtues of staying at home while yielding to their husbands. Annette Young asks researcher, Cecile Simmons, if there is a more sinister element behind the trend. Also France boasts one of the world's highest percentages of women in uniform. Yet the country still lags behind when it comes to addressing sexual assault and harassment in the military, according to female ex-soldiers.
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Комментарии • 69

  • @jejewa2763
    @jejewa2763 21 день назад +12

    It is funny that a feminist was asked about it but not a trad wife...how about respecting a woman right to decide...

    • @lauralemon4890
      @lauralemon4890 19 дней назад

      it's funny how anti feminists love to use feminist lingo to try to create a narrative that favors their point of view.

    • @lauralemon4890
      @lauralemon4890 19 дней назад

      it's funny to see anti feminists using feminist lingo when it's convenient for you

    • @commercialcbc
      @commercialcbc 6 дней назад

      It's a French media. This is the norm here in France. There is never a debate, there is only one possible opinion

  • @AlbertBormant
    @AlbertBormant 21 день назад +22

    More like the "return" of the tradwife. This was normal until a few decades ago.

    • @jeremytine
      @jeremytine 21 день назад +3

      and women used to property as well, times change

    • @philv3941
      @philv3941 17 дней назад

      "normal" is not a valid criteria to define good or bad. It's just a classic logical fallacy, variation around the appeal to tradition

    • @robertchmielecki2580
      @robertchmielecki2580 4 дня назад

      @@philv3941 In defence of the original poster, he didn't say anything for or against the idea, just stated some facts, so didn't commit a fallacy.

    • @philv3941
      @philv3941 4 дня назад

      @@robertchmielecki2580 the subtext, with the "until" is to claim we are in an abnormal situation. And i guess you understood it too.
      Cause if not, it's obvious that "before" was different than "now", no need to recall it.

  • @LexiBellaart
    @LexiBellaart 21 день назад +19

    Also if you are an influencer it’s a JOB so technically you aren’t a “Trad Wife” if you are an influencer- because it’s a job and u can’t have that!

    • @katek2432
      @katek2432 20 дней назад

      no only technically but actually, since influencers sometimes make good money and it can be more than their husbands having 'normal' jobs but they like to sell its audience some BS ideas like 'I'm just a trad wife and my husband provides for me and solves all the problems while I'm just being pretty for him' at the same time creating content every day.

    • @LoneWulf278
      @LoneWulf278 19 дней назад

      And it’s an extremely time-consuming one because you’re preparing and writing out all of your content before filming, editing, and uploading it. It’s kinda hard to be an attentive caregiver if you’re doing that every week or more. If it’s their choice, it’s fine. But I think they’re trying to sell it to people as if they’re the most authentic representatives of it (basically like every other influencer with a shiny new lifestyle trend).

  • @thenderson8135
    @thenderson8135 21 день назад +19

    It is called ending feminism using fashionable trends.

    • @lauralemon4890
      @lauralemon4890 21 день назад

      ending what? feminism is a political movement that will continue to exist. what these women are doing is making poor choices that will impact their lives in the future.

    • @lauralemon4890
      @lauralemon4890 19 дней назад

      ending what? lol you wish

    • @thenderson8135
      @thenderson8135 19 дней назад

      @@lauralemon4890 That was just describing the process. My wish is the contrary as you can see from the syntax.

  • @Razzaque-pk4ou
    @Razzaque-pk4ou 21 день назад +14

    Trade wife have social media account, they have bank account, they have voting rights,so many feminist rights,what's trade about that?

    • @alexsilent5603
      @alexsilent5603 21 день назад +3

      I think "TradWife" means traditional wife.

    • @marilenaganea6578
      @marilenaganea6578 21 день назад

      Traditional wife's of the 50's and before had no bank accounts and no jobs, we're stuck in being the property of their husbands. How is trad wife to have your own escape in case your trad husband break your bones?​@@alexsilent5603

    • @lauralemon4890
      @lauralemon4890 21 день назад +3

      @@alexsilent5603 yeah. and you didn't answer the question.

  • @pragueexpat5106
    @pragueexpat5106 21 день назад +6

    Many self-proclaimed "strong and independent feminists" got sick and tired of the 9-5 grind and decided to "abandon" feminism, find a man to leech off of..

    • @LoneWulf278
      @LoneWulf278 19 дней назад +1

      How is it leeching if she’s deciding to serve him and her family?

  • @engineeranonymous
    @engineeranonymous 21 день назад +8

    It is your life and your only life. Live like you wanted to live. Just be aware of the consequences of the choices you make now for your future self.

  • @Thermopylae2007
    @Thermopylae2007 21 день назад +21

    Typical modern media on the trad wife issue.. It's now far- right to suggest a lifestyle choice that was largely the norm just one or two generations ago.

    • @lauralemon4890
      @lauralemon4890 21 день назад +1

      it's 2024

    • @jeremytine
      @jeremytine 21 день назад +2

      slavery used to be the norm to, your point?

    • @LoneWulf278
      @LoneWulf278 19 дней назад +1

      Let’s not be obtuse. It’s a lifestyle that is mostly endorsed and positioned by conservative right-wing people. That’s why they are called ‘conservatives’. This is the tradition they prefer to conserve compared to liberals. It’s not a baseless accusation unless you think it’s a bad thing or fear judgement. But it’s definitely a valid observation.

  • @62Cristoforo
    @62Cristoforo 21 день назад +6

    The guests supposed connections she draws between traditional culture and far-Right ideologies seems a bit tenuous and far-fetched. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, as Freud once stated.

  • @jandp2941
    @jandp2941 21 день назад +3

    It seems to be so fake… why are fully believing in influencers now?

  • @txbre8758
    @txbre8758 21 день назад +2

    I’m good. My boyfriend is German and we both agree on a partnership together not this trad wife lifestylen

  • @Findingyourtrueself539
    @Findingyourtrueself539 21 день назад +11

    I grew up in the fifties. I can say that the “wives “ of that time were really frustrated with their homemaker roles.

  • @systemcheck2769
    @systemcheck2769 21 день назад +3

    Some people just can't let go of the dream. Can't bring themselves to reconcile with the fact that it was all a lie.

    • @systemcheck2769
      @systemcheck2769 21 день назад +2

      Someone should make a compilation of all of the domestic abuse in 1950's cinema. Something else that was considered normal a few generations ago.

    • @frankprit3320
      @frankprit3320 21 день назад

      it's a lie now.

  • @hightide4782
    @hightide4782 21 день назад +10

    “Trad wife” = Stepford wife. As you can imagine, the idea is much more popular among certain men, particularly incels. Advocating for “trad wives” falls in the category of “show you have a fragile ego without saying you have a fragile ego.” 😂

  • @markmuller7962
    @markmuller7962 13 дней назад

    Let's not forget the hundreds of millions of people (mostly women) undiagnosed with a neurological disorder and this might be a way to cope with an unforgiving neurotypical world

  • @LoneWulf278
    @LoneWulf278 19 дней назад +1

    I think anti-feminism appeals to people who don’t want the responsibility or pressure of the modern world. Understandable. 🤷‍♀️ I’m sure they genuinely love serving their families. But most women do that already, without calling it a trend or tradition.
    What she said about DV seems like conjecture considering we haven’t seen a difference in the rates since women have been liberated fifty years ago. It all depends on how men are being socialized to perceive women, not necessarily financial independence. A man can harm you in a house that you own. It’s a complicated subject.

  • @MarcinCE
    @MarcinCE 21 день назад +9

    Nicely manipulated material

  • @LexiBellaart
    @LexiBellaart 21 день назад +3

    ITS A 🪤 TRAP

  • @victoriadegand2393
    @victoriadegand2393 18 дней назад

    I’ve been both a high level Executive with 2 successful careers & a Traditional wide. I prefer traditional. NOT ALL give up financial independence. That’s a fallacy.

  • @henaimtiyaz4189
    @henaimtiyaz4189 21 день назад +3

    When you say that women should behave in a particular way and not do this or do that to be accepted by the society at large then apply the same standards to men. But it's ironic that it hardly happens since we live in a male dominated society who just can't see a woman excelling thus they want to mold women according to their needs for which social media is responsible to a large extent in degrading women. Don't generalize this regressive trend

  • @philricher9844
    @philricher9844 21 день назад +3

    Pretty balanced discussion then 😆

    • @passerau
      @passerau 21 день назад

      Indeed, you can tell 😂🤣🤣😅😅🤣😂🤣😅

  • @timallison8560
    @timallison8560 21 день назад

    sickening.

  • @chidozieugwu-oju7069
    @chidozieugwu-oju7069 21 день назад +2

    I think it is better for women to play both roles by working and also being feminist as long as they are assisted fully by their husbands. That way they both strike a balance.

    • @lornahuddleston1453
      @lornahuddleston1453 21 день назад +2

      Yes. And society must play a supporting role in the lives of families.

  • @LoveFactorySweatShop
    @LoveFactorySweatShop 21 день назад +2

    I eat at a restaurant every meal. I don't want a wife that cooks, I want a wife that earns enough so that we both can eat at a restaurant every meal.

    • @martthesling
      @martthesling 21 день назад +1

      You'd rather eat somewhere than home? ok

    • @LoveFactorySweatShop
      @LoveFactorySweatShop 21 день назад

      @@martthesling poor people, or people with kids, eat at home.

    • @martthesling
      @martthesling 21 день назад

      @@LoveFactorySweatShop yes, because rich people never eat at home...

    • @koushikdas1992
      @koushikdas1992 20 дней назад

      ​@@LoveFactorySweatShop Is food more nutrient based at restaurant than home made food!? May be not at all.

  • @RangerXXT
    @RangerXXT 21 день назад

    we trading wifes?

  • @quell9398
    @quell9398 21 день назад

    ... gross

  • @elizabethiloveelohim137
    @elizabethiloveelohim137 21 день назад +7

    It's called loving family instead of being killers

    • @lornahuddleston1453
      @lornahuddleston1453 21 день назад

      It really sucks that we can't be partners in trust and mutual goals. If we can't cooperate around having and raising healthy and sane children, then why even bother to try? Kids need parents who can set aside their personal greed and focus on the well being of the next generation.

    • @lauralemon4890
      @lauralemon4890 21 день назад

      it's called sleeping with your enemy

  • @aetherion7
    @aetherion7 21 день назад

    2:07. "Touch me at places you were not supposed to touch a woman"? What does that mean? What places, and/or how, on the body is where no one "is supposed to touch" another. XD

    • @zufex2029
      @zufex2029 21 день назад +1

      The places where you are supposed to touch is woman is for instance hand when handshaking. ;)

  • @asifgulzar1697
    @asifgulzar1697 21 день назад

    LONG LIVE DONALD TRUMP