Tommy TwoGun Don't look now but that Wasr is actually running closer to $550-600 these days. After the last panic eneded the prices hit a low of about $400 for a Wasr or N-pap. Then Century started making their own American made RAS-47 and surprise, surprise, the prices jumped $200 so they could compete. I hate that company with a passion.
Yep buy both PLUS why not a full on sniper rifle a couple of hard core shotguns, various handguns, hunting rifles, maybe a full set of cowboy guns, .several 22s for the family ..oh and maybe a 50 bmg...if in the right state ...and then too if able too some suppressors and machine guns too...I WISH I had all that!! Americans want it ALL huh?? ...Lord help anyone that tries to invade this land!! WH]y is it easier to let go of cash to buy guns than to buy ammo? Man I wish I had bought more ammo when it was cheaper...
King Super Saiyan: I understand you’re sour because a cheap AR outlasted a cheap AK under the stresses of sustained full auto fire, but it doesn’t justify your bs ‘propaganda’ tantrum on this dudes comment about the SOUND of the gun. Sustained full auto round counts are not the be-all end-all argument regarding which platform is better. Pretty easy to spot the guys who don’t know their way around a rifle these days.
I like the fact that it is explained repeatedly that this is not what the gun is designed for, even in combat, this is a torture test. Videos games were you spray and pray with unlimited ammo is not the same as combat were you need better target and ammo control. It is one of the reasons for the three shot burst used now on most automatic assault rifles.
Nowadays, most survival video games have a "quallity" meter.If the gun's used repeatedly without maintenace, it will break. Of course, this is cumbersome and often removed for more fluid and dynamic gameplay in most online multiplayer shooters.
Three round burst was mainly designed to mitigate Green troops first time in combat who would just flip the selector to full auto and spray the whole mag, three round burst was designed to make the soldier pause and reasses to release the trigger to keep firing bursts
My WASR runs like a high end AK, but seeing something like a Norinco MAK 90 or a Yugo AK go through this would be interesting because they are said to have thicker Receivers
Ak Operators Union, Local 47-74 I've seen a high end AK take 3 times as many rounds and they stopped when the hand guards caught on fire. After it cooled down it was as good as new.
In the first minute he fired 150 rounds. Now for a belt-fed machine gun like the M249 it says 200rpm training mandates a barrel change every 2 minutes and that's a heavily built weapon. The lesson from these videos should be clear: there's more to a machine gun than fully-automatic fire. Sticking an auto-sear on what is still a rifle, lightly built as a rifle, then you can't get away with using it like a machine gun. It's going to overheat.
Don't know if you've seen the other meltdown videos but this test is about just that, Melting a semi automatic ak by making it full auto. I think the Wasr doesn't make the cut. It hurts because my only AK happens to be a Wasr.
That's because the Vepr has a heavy RPK barrel. Battlefield Las Vegas has converted many WASR's to select fire, and they last approximately 100,000rds before the top receiver rails wear out. The barrel will last beyond 100k. The armorers there have used Saiga, Norinco, Arsenal, and state that the WASR holds up the best to full auto fire. This single video of a single rifle proves nothing. Heat however will kill any firearm. Even the MG42 requires barrel changes or else it will fail.
Great video!, as you said the gun is not designed for this type of use which is why it failed, judging from the thermo image my guess is as well as barrel droop the barrel pin was likely not heat treated which would allow I wish more manufacturers would clarify in their marketing instead of calling their 500.00 AK's mill spec.
Rifle Dynamics If Eric does this same test with RD AK47 and it goes past 1000+ rounds, Im selling my Arsenal AK and spending the money on a RD AK :^D. And I live in Vegas too.
Robert Bentley Nonsense. RD said "My Guess is" that doesn't mean the barrel pin wasn't heat treated properly. Go try something like this on your high end semi-auto AK. you'll be lucky if it lasts 500 round before it blows up in your face. Go back and re-read what he said. You're Fired.
I have a hard time believing that the barrel moved at all. The gap at the RSB is present in many AKs, and doesn't indicate that the barrel moved. It looks more like the barrel drooped to the point that it prevented the gas piston from entering the gas block, thereby preventing the carrier from moving forward enough to put the bolt in battery. If the barrel had truly moved out of the trunnion, it would have been pretty dumb to fire without checking headspace. No mention of any of this in the video.
I think both the AR and AK are great in their own right! Now that we've seen one trial of both guns shot to failure, I wonder what a second and/or third trial would show? As a science teacher, I know that valid result require multiple trials and controlled variables (at least as controlled as you can manage!) Thanks to Eric for all you do! You've become one of my favorite RUclips channels.
WOW! I remember when you did the cheap AR test also and it lasted up to 800 rounds or so on full auto didn't it? Things aren't always as people say they are.
He said this was a $500 AK. I purchased mine for $250. For my investment, and the fact that I would never blow through ammo like that... I think it did rather well.
I'd love to get a WASR for 250, great deal on your end. As he says in the video the WASRs are meant for semi-auto fire only, if you're using them in the way most do, your gun can easily go over 10k rounds before you start seeing any real damage (I've even heard of some going up near the 15-20k mark before needing new barrels etc). Definitely the best budget or entry-level AK on the market. PSA : Never ever ever buy a RAS47 (aka the tRASh47).
Anonymous Caveman most AKs now aren't made by Kalishnakov. Most are really AKMs, made in the model, but not by the original creator. But that's not to say AKMs are bad. On the contrary, they are pretty damn good. Just some times things don't go right.
Agent Louisiana. Agreed. Would be nice to see a true Russian variant. I don’t care what anyone says, WASR are rubbish. These tests are interesting, but I’m not sure they prove much. M4s, AKs, are small arms, sub machine guns and were never designed for sustainable fire like this.
yep, russian AK is beyond these copies. Russian steel is made to endure extreme conditions, original russian AK will not rust in case of great humidity, and you can fire it on and on...
+Андрей Фомин Румынский Калаш говно во сравнение с Советским Калашом, а этот ещё и экспортный самозарядный вариант который был переделан в автоматический... то есть вариант в этом видио хуже чем Румынский РМ который хуже Советского АКМ
windson7 I have an slr107fr a slr106cr and a sgl21.The Bulgarians are no better than the Russia.The sgl is a ak103 clone and the slr107fr is a true akm
Already has cheap AR went 820 rounds cheap AK 265 rounds talk all you want to about AR both guns cost same. AR was s&w mp15 costs 600 with tax I own one.
Lets see you do the same thing with an Arsenal AK. I like how you are showing that a cheap gun can run too, but doing a comparison of a $1200 AR vs a $469 AK is a little insulting to the AK. Lets at least compare apples to apples. Either redo the AK vid with a $1200 AK or redo the AR video with a $500 PSA pencil barrel AR. Semper Fi
Papa Bravo If you where in the marines you should know better how much AR uppers cost. That upper was not a $1200 upper. In fact it was about a $500 upper.
Papa Bravo That was a cheap $159 barrel from Faxon in the AR, with a 1-8 twist. Repeat the test with a standard Colt, or FN barrel with the original 1-12 twist, then have a Coke and a smile. The whole point of the AK is (to AK fanboys) that it costs 1/2 the price and it's twice as reliable. I call bullshit.Final score AR(with a cheap barrel) 830AK 265
Travis Krause Govt. profile with a 1-9 twist, yes. 1-7 less so. The faster the twist, the more friction. More friction = more heat. Any quality barrel with a 1-8 or slower twist rate would outlast that $150 Faxon barrel that lasted 830 rounds. Even still, 830 rounds is almost 600 more rounds than the AK. There isn't an AK47 on the planet that could go that extra 600, it's just physics. The larger bore makes for a thinner barrel cross section and without the extra meat to dissipate the heat generated the barrel will fail. Maybe the 5.45x39 of the AK74 would do better, but with all the barrel options available to AR15 builders, the AR would always be able to outlast the AK.
Taking into account that this started life as a semi, I think it'd be a good idea to realize the tolerance differences between a born and bred dual function, Russian AK (or Arsenal for that matter) and this one. ALSO bare in mind that this IS NOT a higher end, mil-spec AK. All things considered, for being what it is, at the COST it is, I'd say this little bastard spit em' out pretty well.
@landho128 It's less a comment on the AK as a weapon and more a comment on just how shit of a job Century Arms does when reassembling them in the US. Stamped receiver and cheap barrel to match.
@@mirwaisayazi2886 I don't think that's correct, as far as I understand these WASRs are made specifically for export which is why they are made with such low standards.
The WASR 10, as far as i know, is a Romanian made gun for civilian use and it was never meant to be fired full auto. The Romanian made military model is a completly different animal.
@@nickbandz24 wow i can t believe you say that us Romenians make bad guns when russians and bulgarians are terrible now you re blaming us when its clearly americas fault not Romania ffs
I'm not sure what the big reaction is all about. All this really proves is that a WASR-10 is not capable of being an MG-42, and probably not capable of being an RPK. An infantry rifle is not designed to have the capability to replace a static machine gun. While there may or may not be better AK designs for this kind of use, I don't see this as being any sort of realistic deficit to the WASR-10. Real combat never entails putting this many rounds through an infantry rifle at this speed. Sure, it works in Call of Duty, but that's rather irrelevant.
Andrew Tadsen People are angry because the AR lasted longer, shattering their preconceived internet hyperbole about 'reliability'. People also say, 'well this is a low end AK' ya well, the AR they shot was also technically a 'low end' too... People are getting upset because they invest their emotions into their firearms for some reason...
sergeantbigmac Yeah, I guess some people see this as part of the ongoing AR vs. AK war. Either way, both failed, despite being very capable of performing both "emergency" infantry rifle functions, such as realistic temporary suppressive fire, and "ordinary" infantry rifle functions, such as continuous accurate fire. Maybe, in order to get some perspective on what primarily-full-auto long guns are capable of withstanding, a similar "burn" test should be done on a real RPK. That's the "realest" full auto AK you can get, right? :)
+sergeantbigmac Yeah sure shattered are preconceived notions alright. "takes malfunctioning AK whacks with trailer hitch against a tree. AK shoot full auto another 30 rounds." Please show us an AR that can do that. With a blown gas tube or barrel that is drooping.
iceman27406 It still failed at that point though. Whether you could hit it with a hammer to fix it or had to replace a broken part, it doesn't matter that much. Still failed, and failed then...
After the 3rd mag, the RoF started picking up pretty good. Was also just watching the AR meltdown yesterday. Hopefully a Part 2 will make it's way soon.
Charlie Foxtrot Reputation is definitely over exaggerated. Barrel is a good example, & it started out as a civie rifle so i feel one of the flaws is using a rifle that was once semi.
Joshua Berry The AR was at least $1200. The WASR is the bottom of the barrel in the AK world. You're just trying to make yourself feel better for spending so much money..
As a lover of both 1911s and glocks Id like to see a 1911 meltdown vid. Might not be a great fit for the series though as 10 rd mags are high cap. Probably spend more time reloading than shooting. I know yaeger fired a 1000 rds through that Kimber and it ran fine but it would be interesting to see a full auto one run till death.
If I recall correctly Jerret shot 1,000 rnds through a para 1911 in 10 minutes with it seizing up at the end only to be operational after cooling down.
Eric, at 4:27 you point out the gap on the fsb. that gap is normal and within spec. Im not sure if the trunnion walked out but that gap is certainly not indicative of the front trunnion walking.
Relative humidity is a measure of the amount water vapor\saturation point of air at a given temperature. This varies with temperature for ex. air at 77f degrees will hold 20gms of water which would be 100% RH. At 68 degrees 15 gms and still 100% RH.
***** It was slow from the start. I'm not an expert by any means, but I knew from the first two mags that the rate of fire was slightly off. Maybe it was the way it was put together, maybe it was the headspacing... I don't know.
I'm sure someone has already mentioned this. But when your doing abusive testing like this the barrel will get soooooo hot the ammo will "cook" off automatically. That's why you see a speed up sometimes. Also since it's firing the weapon without you pulling the trigger you CANNOT stop it unless you run out of ammo. That's very scary and also why you don't screw around like this unless you REALY know what your doing.
Which era wasr was this? what's the trunion date and was it matching parts? was it anerican made barrel? was there the military proof stamp? was it the oldest stamp with the arrow? with wasrs it's hard to figure out what's going on with all the time line variables.
The Yugoslavian M70 has the thickest barrel of any standard AK variant. Hopefully they use that one for the upcoming video. I firmly believe Yugo's are the highest quality standard AK variant on the market, with a good price to boot. It would also be interesting to see if a Krinkov holds up to full auto better, my theory is less barrel, less droop. Possibly less heat too, with the shorter barrel not burning all the gases from the cartridge.
Lunchbox The Magnificent it was a shitty ak that was not built to be fired fully auto, i don't know why he wanted to make this video with this particular model of ak but something tells me it was intentional, call the illuminati police!
0:45 speaking of "Red Dawn" I rebuild 73-98 C and K series for a living. My friend and I love the old square body Chevy trucks and we found a standard cab step side 77 k/10 and restored it to look like the one from the original movie.
I would not own a new Wasr 10 they use cheaper wood on the stocks I wont have one unless its a deconverted 10/63 I saw other stuff online about making the guns cheaper. Thanks for uploading video.
I love how you can take almost any AR and it’ll out perform almost any AK. then the ONLY way an AK will apparently beat an AR is if you get “an original one”
ripppking few guns last long under true full auto most even in the military standard rifles are semi auto it's a waste to use full auto..and within squads there always one with an "lmg" that can put up suppressive fire. Once again full auto is fun but that's it its unreliable and a waste of ammo and hard on most guns even the "lmgs" usually carry an extra barrel or two and other parts.
k4b44l In the war in '91, I heard that after 1 mag, our police forces(gov forces) were drowning the barrel in a bucket of water to coold down and begin shooting again.
***** It was in Transnistria, same scenario as now in Ucraine. Our gov after the soviet break decided that we didn't needed anymore army so they disbanded all military formations and all the tanks and new IFVs and APCs just gave away to Russia, wat was left were some BMD-1 and BTR-60,70, and I think 80. A year later an organized separatist conflict by russian ethnics arose. Ofcourse it was naturally to send police to calm down the protestants, but something happened, a few got injured, I think somebody got killed, and that started stories about "police fascists", "anti russian xenophobes" and etc. So the armed conflict begun. As I described before, police was seriously under-armed against separatists and disguised russian miltiary as separatists. And so friendly state Romania(same roots, same language, we are part of the same nation) initiated material help, which included some bed kits for refugees, and other stuff to help civilians who were in the conflict zone, also it contained romanian AK's. Many were complaining about inferior quality against soviet line. 1-2 mags, and barrel mush to bend how you wanted. The quality of those weapons which are still in service is...legendary. I learned about how bad they were in middle school. It's a known fact about ro ak's barrels. Some background to the RO AKs in practice.
Constantine it's still an ak..an akm..not an ak47..two different guns of the same type .aks good quality aren't cheap...at all..unless you're on the black market
funny thing is he is wearing a Yugoslavian helmet that has insignia from the guys they bombed in 1999. honestly i would ask him to take the insignia off the helmet, have some respect for the guys who died protecting that country from NATO scum (mostly planes from the US) that bombed a hospital where 81 baby was killed, not to mention bridge that was bombed while a train full of civilians was on it, and so on... just have a little respect... all that i ask...
GoldOilandDiamonds i can see you have no service to your country if you have so little repsect to soliders that fought bravely against all odds... so please go serve, and than comment on stuff like this :) thank you
honestly i don't understand what do you have to do with this, i did not talk to you at all and i do not want your comments, you are here trolling and i have no interest with arguing with you GoldOilandDiamonds
It is not real russian AK 47, it is romanian clone. Real AK has better quality, real AK produced only on Izmash in Russia and has claim "arrow in triangle." Russia officially not licensed AK manufacturing in EU or USA, so this is fake AK.
+Вася Пупкин Румынский Калаш говно во сравнение с Советским Калашом, а этот ещё и экспортный самозарядный вариант который был переделан в автоматический... то есть вариант в этом видио хуже чем Румынский РМ который хуже Советского АКМ
Why are you using shit made Bulgarian AK -.- and btw this is not AK47... When you are comparing AR to AK use AK74 instead of AKM (ofc not Bulgarian...)
Century Arms always made unreliable garbage. I should know I owned 4 of them each one failed. Do not buy anything Century if you want a quality AK buy Chinese, Russian Molot, Russian Saiga stay away from US junk. Although there is one US manufacturer of fine built AKs that is James River in MD. You get what you pay for. Nice job Iraqi Vet.Thanks and God bless.
Love my WASR. With that being said I'm a bit disappointed but not suprised. It's not made for this but it is cool to have an option made for full auto. Maybe I will pick one up soon. Cool video brother!!
Barrett M107 melt down? Definitely will get a couple million views on here. And with the RUclips money earned you can buy a new shoulder.
I support this idea.. This should be done at least once..
SouthwardBrazy As badass as that would be i don't think they want to burn through $10,000 in ammo
SouthwardBrazy
Honestly, I think an M2 meltdown might be easier. Either way the cost would be ridiculous.
Or a billion views....
LOL nice profile pic
I think the real crime here is that $500 is considered entry level prices for AK's now.
Tommy TwoGun Don't look now but that Wasr is actually running closer to $550-600 these days.
After the last panic eneded the prices hit a low of about $400 for a Wasr or N-pap.
Then Century started making their own American made RAS-47 and surprise, surprise, the prices jumped $200 so they could compete. I hate that company with a passion.
drtrolish the 1989 Assault Rifle Importation ban is the problem. Before that you could get an AK for 150 bucks.
Trump Knows Best You're Fired! Good ones too. Chinese Type 56's, milspec Yugos, even Hungarians and Egyptian rifles! Those were the good ole days.
AK 74 $10 in Russia
Tommy TwoGun Unbegrenzt auf deutschen Autobahnen! :)
"we're putting this gun through something it wasnt designed to do"---- trueer words were never spoken in gun terms.................... bravo
the American solution for ar and ak ... buy both
The logical solution*
Zulu Centurion American cause you can only do this in America
Matt Lucas
No, you can buy AK and AR rifles in other countries too.
+Zulu Centurion well America has the most guns
Yep buy both PLUS why not a full on sniper rifle a couple of hard core shotguns, various handguns, hunting rifles, maybe a full set of cowboy guns, .several 22s for the family ..oh and maybe a 50 bmg...if in the right state ...and then too if able too some suppressors and machine guns too...I WISH I had all that!! Americans want it ALL huh?? ...Lord help anyone that tries to invade this land!! WH]y is it easier to let go of cash to buy guns than to buy ammo? Man I wish I had bought more ammo when it was cheaper...
Little did he know the amount of ammo he used would be worth thousands more than it was then
The sound of this gun is just amazing.
Its a wasr 10, not a original ak. Its capitalist propaganda.
King Super Saiyan: I understand you’re sour because a cheap AR outlasted a cheap AK under the stresses of sustained full auto fire, but it doesn’t justify your bs ‘propaganda’ tantrum on this dudes comment about the SOUND of the gun. Sustained full auto round counts are not the be-all end-all argument regarding which platform is better. Pretty easy to spot the guys who don’t know their way around a rifle these days.
@@natedog1619 IT'S NOT BULLSHIT. REAL AK'S LAST LONGER THAT THAT SHIT WASR 10.
@@cryo_life besides the automatic components what is different between the wasr and a type 1
@@natedog1619 it is a wasr 10 lol look at the description
I like the fact that it is explained repeatedly that this is not what the gun is designed for, even in combat, this is a torture test. Videos games were you spray and pray with unlimited ammo is not the same as combat were you need better target and ammo control. It is one of the reasons for the three shot burst used now on most automatic assault rifles.
Nowadays, most survival video games have a "quallity" meter.If the gun's used repeatedly without maintenace, it will break. Of course, this is cumbersome and often removed for more fluid and dynamic gameplay in most online multiplayer shooters.
Old AF comment but 3 shot is not common. Just like pointing out armchair experts ignorance. Goodbye
@teddyfresh9605 ya almost no guns are 3 round burst 😂
Three round burst was mainly designed to mitigate Green troops first time in combat who would just flip the selector to full auto and spray the whole mag, three round burst was designed to make the soldier pause and reasses to release the trigger to keep firing bursts
Jesus dude your spelling is horrible. I’d rather kill myself than read a paragraph from you. Stop using “were”
I loved his reaction when they got the AK working, priceless
WASR 10 is a good reliable rifle I don't care what anyone says about it.
5:22 No AK rifle was meant for sustained full auto fire. Thats what the RPK was designed for, which is why you chose it for the next "AK" meltdown..
Nope dude.
RPK is a MG.AK is a beast.
No, this al from Romania, not original.
Still funny how a budget MP15 beats out an AK.
Buy both lol
Awesome video. It would be nice to see higher end AK going through this.
A krebs or rifle dynamics would be nice but I'd settle for Hungarian
My WASR runs like a high end AK, but seeing something like a Norinco MAK 90 or a Yugo AK go through this would be interesting because they are said to have thicker Receivers
RPK receivers maybe?
cybermonkey81 I would agree on an RPK or a Yugo or a Norinco MAK 90 AK variants.
Ak Operators Union, Local 47-74 I've seen a high end AK take 3 times as many rounds and they stopped when the hand guards caught on fire. After it cooled down it was as good as new.
In the first minute he fired 150 rounds. Now for a belt-fed machine gun like the M249 it says 200rpm training mandates a barrel change every 2 minutes and that's a heavily built weapon.
The lesson from these videos should be clear: there's more to a machine gun than fully-automatic fire. Sticking an auto-sear on what is still a rifle, lightly built as a rifle, then you can't get away with using it like a machine gun. It's going to overheat.
Don't know if you've seen the other meltdown videos but this test is about just that, Melting a semi automatic ak by making it full auto. I think the Wasr doesn't make the cut. It hurts because my only AK happens to be a Wasr.
He tested a russian built ak47. A vepr Ak47 fired 10 times as much as this one.
@@totalannihilation9065 maybe you could get a higher quality barrel
That's because the Vepr has a heavy RPK barrel.
Battlefield Las Vegas has converted many WASR's to select fire, and they last approximately 100,000rds before the top receiver rails wear out. The barrel will last beyond 100k. The armorers there have used Saiga, Norinco, Arsenal, and state that the WASR holds up the best to full auto fire. This single video of a single rifle proves nothing. Heat however will kill any firearm. Even the MG42 requires barrel changes or else it will fail.
Georgy Zhukov What do you think of the c39v2?
Thank you suffering through the heat for this video Eric. Was totally worth it.
Great video!, as you said the gun is not designed for this type of use which is why it failed, judging from the thermo image my guess is as well as barrel droop the barrel pin was likely not heat treated which would allow I wish more manufacturers would clarify in their marketing instead of calling their 500.00 AK's mill spec.
Robert Bentley ^IMO the best AK's in the world :)
Rifle Dynamics you guys are the premier AK builders around. You guys should build Eric a rifle for his pt. 2
Rifle Dynamics If Eric does this same test with RD AK47 and it goes past 1000+ rounds, Im selling my Arsenal AK and spending the money on a RD AK :^D. And I live in Vegas too.
Robert Bentley Nonsense. RD said "My Guess is" that doesn't mean the barrel pin wasn't heat treated properly.
Go try something like this on your high end semi-auto AK. you'll be lucky if it lasts 500 round before it blows up in your face. Go back and re-read what he said. You're Fired.
I have a hard time believing that the barrel moved at all. The gap at the RSB is present in many AKs, and doesn't indicate that the barrel moved.
It looks more like the barrel drooped to the point that it prevented the gas piston from entering the gas block, thereby preventing the carrier from moving forward enough to put the bolt in battery.
If the barrel had truly moved out of the trunnion, it would have been pretty dumb to fire without checking headspace. No mention of any of this in the video.
I think both the AR and AK are great in their own right! Now that we've seen one trial of both guns shot to failure, I wonder what a second and/or third trial would show? As a science teacher, I know that valid result require multiple trials and controlled variables (at least as controlled as you can manage!)
Thanks to Eric for all you do! You've become one of my favorite RUclips channels.
The end of the video there where they fixed it absolutely blew my mind. I was speechless after they managed that.
Love the melt down videos! Reliability is something people drool over and these weapons you are testing are the kings of reliability.
WOW! I remember when you did the cheap AR test also and it lasted up to 800 rounds or so on full auto didn't it? Things aren't always as people say they are.
Imagine walking into battlefield wielding 2 burning AK 47s
😂😂😂😂DEAD!!😢😢
He said this was a $500 AK. I purchased mine for $250. For my investment, and the fact that I would never blow through ammo like that... I think it did rather well.
I'd love to get a WASR for 250, great deal on your end. As he says in the video the WASRs are meant for semi-auto fire only, if you're using them in the way most do, your gun can easily go over 10k rounds before you start seeing any real damage (I've even heard of some going up near the 15-20k mark before needing new barrels etc).
Definitely the best budget or entry-level AK on the market.
PSA : Never ever ever buy a RAS47 (aka the tRASh47).
You’ll never believe it but right after Sandy Hook my dad panic bought a Wasr for $1200. I have the receipt to prove it too
@@supaflyho24 My dumbass bought one for 800 and im still a little pissed
@@keithlively230 Don't be, that is what they are going for these days
@@supaflyho24 $859 club over here. Sucks lol
A century wasr 10 in fully automatic..
I too like to live dangerously.
try it with a proper Kalashnikov
true, cause there was replica right...??
What, you think this thing is shooting out skittles?
Anonymous Caveman most AKs now aren't made by Kalishnakov. Most are really AKMs, made in the model, but not by the original creator.
But that's not to say AKMs are bad. On the contrary, they are pretty damn good. Just some times things don't go right.
Agent Louisiana. Agreed. Would be nice to see a true Russian variant. I don’t care what anyone says, WASR are rubbish. These tests are interesting, but I’m not sure they prove much. M4s, AKs, are small arms, sub machine guns and were never designed for sustainable fire like this.
yep, russian AK is beyond these copies. Russian steel is made to endure extreme conditions, original russian AK will not rust in case of great humidity, and you can fire it on and on...
This AK is made in Romania it seems. Need to test a real Russian AK.
+Андрей Фомин Румынский Калаш говно во сравнение с Советским Калашом, а этот ещё и экспортный самозарядный вариант который был переделан в автоматический... то есть вариант в этом видио хуже чем Румынский РМ который хуже Советского АКМ
Victor Lupu спасибо за разьяснение. я по английски ноль.
yes!
windson7 I have an slr107fr a slr106cr and a sgl21.The Bulgarians are no better than the Russia.The sgl is a ak103 clone and the slr107fr is a true akm
Aaron] That doesn't make them any more Russian than Ukrainians, Latvians, Estonians or Poles......
I have a better idea. how about cheap ak vs expensive ak.
Already has cheap AR went 820 rounds cheap AK 265 rounds talk all you want to about AR both guns cost same. AR was s&w mp15 costs 600 with tax I own one.
You do know that ak’s are ment for single fire.......right?, so 265 rounds is pretty impressive
@@dwizzleusa4202 Its a wasr, it's the worst of the bunch. Go look at the AK meltdown v2.
As a Georgia boy myself, good videos buddy. Keep up the good work. Go Dawgs!!!!
Lets see you do the same thing with an Arsenal AK. I like how you are showing that a cheap gun can run too, but doing a comparison of a $1200 AR vs a $469 AK is a little insulting to the AK. Lets at least compare apples to apples. Either redo the AK vid with a $1200 AK or redo the AR video with a $500 PSA pencil barrel AR.
Semper Fi
Papa Bravo If you where in the marines you should know better how much AR uppers cost.
That upper was not a $1200 upper. In fact it was about a $500 upper.
amen brother.
Papa Bravo That was a cheap $159 barrel from Faxon in the AR, with a 1-8 twist. Repeat the test with a standard Colt, or FN barrel with the original 1-12 twist, then have a Coke and a smile. The whole point of the AK is (to AK fanboys) that it costs 1/2 the price and it's twice as reliable. I call bullshit.Final score AR(with a cheap barrel) 830AK 265
Mike Melina +1 I say a gov't profile 1/7 would have beat the 1/8 as.
Travis Krause Govt. profile with a 1-9 twist, yes. 1-7 less so. The faster the twist, the more friction. More friction = more heat. Any quality barrel with a 1-8 or slower twist rate would outlast that $150 Faxon barrel that lasted 830 rounds. Even still, 830 rounds is almost 600 more rounds than the AK. There isn't an AK47 on the planet that could go that extra 600, it's just physics. The larger bore makes for a thinner barrel cross section and without the extra meat to dissipate the heat generated the barrel will fail. Maybe the 5.45x39 of the AK74 would do better, but with all the barrel options available to AR15 builders, the AR would always be able to outlast the AK.
Taking into account that this started life as a semi, I think it'd be a good idea to realize the tolerance differences between a born and bred dual function, Russian AK (or Arsenal for that matter) and this one.
ALSO bare in mind that this IS NOT a higher end, mil-spec AK.
All things considered, for being what it is, at the COST it is, I'd say this little bastard spit em' out pretty well.
DaedalusProps what exactly is a mil-spec AK ?
DaedalusProps it's made from military grade parts lmao
you do know this is just a military romanian AK with no auto sear, right?
@landho128 It's less a comment on the AK as a weapon and more a comment on just how shit of a job Century Arms does when reassembling them in the US. Stamped receiver and cheap barrel to match.
@@mirwaisayazi2886 I don't think that's correct, as far as I understand these WASRs are made specifically for export which is why they are made with such low standards.
The WASR 10, as far as i know, is a Romanian made gun for civilian use and it was never meant to be fired full auto. The Romanian made military model is a completly different animal.
Its really not. Older 10/63s were made with the pm63 parts off actual pm63 full autos. The new wasr10s are the same thing just new parts
@@nickbandz24 wow i can t believe you say that us Romenians make bad guns when russians and bulgarians are terrible now you re blaming us when its clearly americas fault not Romania ffs
stan adrian 😂😂
@@nickbandz24 so my 10/63 will run more than 260 full auto?
"Fixed" with a trailer hitch and a tree. That's awesome.
I'm not sure what the big reaction is all about. All this really proves is that a WASR-10 is not capable of being an MG-42, and probably not capable of being an RPK. An infantry rifle is not designed to have the capability to replace a static machine gun. While there may or may not be better AK designs for this kind of use, I don't see this as being any sort of realistic deficit to the WASR-10. Real combat never entails putting this many rounds through an infantry rifle at this speed. Sure, it works in Call of Duty, but that's rather irrelevant.
Andrew Tadsen
People are mad that AKs aren't literally indestructible.
Which they aren't, nothing is.
Andrew Tadsen People are angry because the AR lasted longer, shattering their preconceived internet hyperbole about 'reliability'.
People also say, 'well this is a low end AK' ya well, the AR they shot was also technically a 'low end' too... People are getting upset because they invest their emotions into their firearms for some reason...
sergeantbigmac
Yeah, I guess some people see this as part of the ongoing AR vs. AK war. Either way, both failed, despite being very capable of performing both "emergency" infantry rifle functions, such as realistic temporary suppressive fire, and "ordinary" infantry rifle functions, such as continuous accurate fire. Maybe, in order to get some perspective on what primarily-full-auto long guns are capable of withstanding, a similar "burn" test should be done on a real RPK. That's the "realest" full auto AK you can get, right? :)
+sergeantbigmac Yeah sure shattered are preconceived notions alright. "takes malfunctioning AK whacks with trailer hitch against a tree. AK shoot full auto another 30 rounds." Please show us an AR that can do that. With a blown gas tube or barrel that is drooping.
iceman27406 It still failed at that point though. Whether you could hit it with a hammer to fix it or had to replace a broken part, it doesn't matter that much. Still failed, and failed then...
is that ak-47 battle-scarred?
Ak-47 well worn
After the 3rd mag, the RoF started picking up pretty good. Was also just watching the AR meltdown yesterday. Hopefully a Part 2 will make it's way soon.
Charlie Foxtrot Still love my AK's.
Charlie Foxtrot Reputation is definitely over exaggerated. Barrel is a good example, & it started out as a civie rifle so i feel one of the flaws is using a rifle that was once semi.
Sir Strange Meltdown wise, Eric has already done one where he went 700 rounds, and it was fitting that this happened in memory of Kalashnikov.
CMDR Sweeper Seen it.
Charlie Foxtrot 700 trigger pulls lol.
Rifle fixed with hammer! Rifle is fine comrade!
Why not use the OEMs and not those that were converted. Therefore; some do not last like those from Century?
Wow u need slight of hand PRO
Thank you for the straight forward, unbiased meltdown test!
You see Ivan, even if gun is on fire, it still works.
You can't fix an AR with a tree and a hammer boys!
Joshua Berry The AR was at least $1200. The WASR is the bottom of the barrel in the AK world. You're just trying to make yourself feel better for spending so much money..
Joshua Berry The AR wasn't a 1200 gun unless you want to count the add-ons that didn't have anything to do with function.
Michael StJohn So the entire bolt assembly, gas tube and that other gas block deal didn't have anything to do with it?
Possible, still not a 1200 dollar gun.
Michael StJohn Haha, I am willing to bet you it is. You can't even buy a decent AR for under 1000.
As a lover of both 1911s and glocks Id like to see a 1911 meltdown vid. Might not be a great fit for the series though as 10 rd mags are high cap. Probably spend more time reloading than shooting.
I know yaeger fired a 1000 rds through that Kimber and it ran fine but it would be interesting to see a full auto one run till death.
TurboB18C1DC2 yeager topped out the 1911
TurboB18C1DC2
Yeager touched a 1911? That surprises me.
Andrew Tadsen yeah surprising as well.
XxPurpleXHazeX ?
If I recall correctly Jerret shot 1,000 rnds through a para 1911 in 10 minutes with it seizing up at the end only to be operational after cooling down.
Zastava you should do a meltdown of that see how it runs, and how it performs
The wasr had a mini comeback with that ending
Boss level video guys!!! Ray needs more camera time!!
It become more long and boring to watch
Eric, at 4:27 you point out the gap on the fsb. that gap is normal and within spec. Im not sure if the trunnion walked out but that gap is certainly not indicative of the front trunnion walking.
4:30 see its made in romania
1:00 100% humidity? The air has just turned to liquid?
you don't live in the south ;)
+JAMZ87SS amen dude. I'm in Alabama and I'm escaping the heat by staying inside. it's hot
that's not how humidity works.
Relative humidity is a measure of the amount water vapor\saturation point of air at a given temperature. This varies with temperature for ex. air at 77f degrees will hold 20gms of water which would be 100% RH. At 68 degrees 15 gms and still 100% RH.
Quiet Riot firearms?!? My favorite childhood metal band combined with guns?!?!
I'm watching this is 2021 and we are slowly recovering from a ammo shortage
Mosin-Nagant meltdown next ?
I believe your arm would melt down before the gun did operating a bolt gun.
***** Idk. maybe someone will make an automatic rig with servos that will fire and reload the gun automatically :D lol
***** Mosin-Nagant meltdown, day 21. Only the chamber left, still hits the same spot perfectly.
|Useless_Channel| lol
***** the russian dpm Degtyaryov
I love both AK's and AR's. The AK47 just looks so cool.
Funny that the Ak pistol survived its meltdown better than the AR and the auto AK.
Marc Jansson
Granted it was semi-auto
Marc Jansson It was semi-auto...if the AR and AK would have been semi then they would have lasted longer.
Marc Jansson What the guys said. The longer it takes you to fire those rounds, the longer the gun has to cool down.
Sure Im no gun nut. But still. Though it would just be something fun to point out, sorry everyone!
Is it me, or did the rate of fire seem to get faster at 2:00
Yeah it did
***** It was probably cooking.
***** noticed it to. i dunno if it the feed rate of the magazines or if it's just because the gun is getting hotter.
***** It was slow from the start. I'm not an expert by any means, but I knew from the first two mags that the rate of fire was slightly off. Maybe it was the way it was put together, maybe it was the headspacing... I don't know.
I'm sure someone has already mentioned this. But when your doing abusive testing like this the barrel will get soooooo hot the ammo will "cook" off automatically. That's why you see a speed up sometimes. Also since it's firing the weapon without you pulling the trigger you CANNOT stop it unless you run out of ammo. That's very scary and also why you don't screw around like this unless you REALY know what your doing.
“Everyone talks a bunch of smack about WASR 10s”
*Breaks after 1 minute of straight full auto*
I like your helmet !!!
nisi jedini koji je to primjetio :D
its really ugly. just what i think.
Is it a Yugo Helmet?
I noticed what looked like the Serbian eagle
@@dale27488 its not yugo, its just Serbian
4:55 a perfect "Oh Jesus Christ!" moment.
Which era wasr was this? what's the trunion date and was it matching parts? was it anerican made barrel? was there the military proof stamp? was it the oldest stamp with the arrow?
with wasrs it's hard to figure out what's going on with all the time line variables.
The Yugoslavian M70 has the thickest barrel of any standard AK variant. Hopefully they use that one for the upcoming video. I firmly believe Yugo's are the highest quality standard AK variant on the market, with a good price to boot.
It would also be interesting to see if a Krinkov holds up to full auto better, my theory is less barrel, less droop. Possibly less heat too, with the shorter barrel not burning all the gases from the cartridge.
I say this as an AK fan, but:
Let the excuses begin in 3........2.............1..........
Lunchbox The Magnificent
it was a shitty ak that was not built to be fired fully auto, i don't know why he wanted to make this video with this particular model of ak but something tells me it was intentional, call the illuminati police!
*****
AK was back up running.
The barrel won't shoot straight though, not with that droop.
SerenGetter now you have to use some good old Kentucky windage. :-)
Lunchbox The Magnificent This isn't a real AK. Its a semiauto low end knock off.
Lunchbox The Magnificent Make sure you watch the whole video man!
0:45 speaking of "Red Dawn" I rebuild 73-98 C and K series for a living. My friend and I love the old square body Chevy trucks and we found a standard cab step side 77 k/10 and restored it to look like the one from the original movie.
The fire rate went all wobbly after the first few mags
because aks are crap
@@thorvenalvarskjomisson95 low-tier and cheap, but usable, i guess
@@thorvenalvarskjomisson95 no because that one was crap. I didn't sound right from the beginning. Something was off..
I just keep wondering does earth never runs out of copper and lead?
Since it ends up back in the ground anyway, lead, copper, and brass are all renewable resources in my book
Was this barrel chrome lined like most aks?
So AR explode on people's faces and AK safely just fails at people.
Nice.
The AKs blow up way more than ARs do check youtube
nope
This is Romanian AK 0:31. This test is not objective))
глянь чё fuck off 🤠
I would not own a new Wasr 10 they use cheaper wood on the stocks I wont have one unless its a deconverted 10/63 I saw other stuff online about making the guns cheaper. Thanks for uploading video.
now go try that in North Hollywood lol
Hamilton Mcgregory not with a wasr lol
Please do it lol
Hamilton Mcgregory lol
Lol yes
Thats what he reminded me of with the kevlar and welding helmet
Look at that choppa 😍
SillyCaterpillar Yes look at that choppah!!
SillyCaterpillar it’s a piece of shit? Wtf are you on about
Benny no it’s not
I love how you can take almost any AR and it’ll out perform almost any AK. then the ONLY way an AK will apparently beat an AR is if you get “an original one”
Original ones make in Rusia I have seeing sustaining up to 1200 rounds
Did no one notice the isis patch on the bag? lol
I was looping for this comment
Looking
+Justin Fajardo It says "ISIS Curbstomp Society". It's not pro ISIS.
+Piet Wiersma hahahaha i looking for this comment too
Типичный американский эксперт, ветеран Ирака)
Только он не понимает что это не Русский калашик, а Румынский)
ray must be an ak guy, "just throw it against that tree a couple times, bring my the hammer" lol
Its ok AK fanboys! The commies wouldn't have the ammo to allow a catastrophic failure anyway... lolol
I thought it would last a lot longer being an AK... Then again it isn't actually a Kalashnikov.
jeremy brainard Nope it's a WASR. A Romanian AK. If it were Russian?
No contest!!!
Agreed
There would be no difference.
Not made for auto fire
ripppking few guns last long under true full auto most even in the military standard rifles are semi auto it's a waste to use full auto..and within squads there always one with an "lmg" that can put up suppressive fire. Once again full auto is fun but that's it its unreliable and a waste of ammo and hard on most guns even the "lmgs" usually carry an extra barrel or two and other parts.
I love your videos man it is satisfying knowing a lot of these guns can hold up to more than what people say they can
This is not original AK ! Original will never give you a problem like that, secret in metal alloy
AR-15 club here hahah
OK Eric. Where did you get the Red Dawn jump suit? Need one.
Don't use Romanian aks (their quality is renowned for barrel drooping in 2-3 mags)
k4b44l In the war in '91, I heard that after 1 mag, our police forces(gov forces) were drowning the barrel in a bucket of water to coold down and begin shooting again.
*****
It was in Transnistria, same scenario as now in Ucraine. Our gov after the soviet break decided that we didn't needed anymore army so they disbanded all military formations and all the tanks and new IFVs and APCs just gave away to Russia, wat was left were some BMD-1 and BTR-60,70, and I think 80. A year later an organized separatist conflict by russian ethnics arose. Ofcourse it was naturally to send police to calm down the protestants, but something happened, a few got injured, I think somebody got killed, and that started stories about "police fascists", "anti russian xenophobes" and etc. So the armed conflict begun. As I described before, police was seriously under-armed against separatists and disguised russian miltiary as separatists. And so friendly state Romania(same roots, same language, we are part of the same nation) initiated material help, which included some bed kits for refugees, and other stuff to help civilians who were in the conflict zone, also it contained romanian AK's. Many were complaining about inferior quality against soviet line. 1-2 mags, and barrel mush to bend how you wanted. The quality of those weapons which are still in service is...legendary. I learned about how bad they were in middle school. It's a known fact about ro ak's barrels. Some background to the RO AKs in practice.
WHAT IF YOUR IN A BIG BIG FEILD WITH NO
TREES?
charger7022 use Ivan's head
Racist643 lol
charger7022 USE MOOSE COMRADE
LOL IVAN'S HEAD HAHAHA!!!
Caps 10 year old boy
At 4:00 “So you don’t have a deck of cards? Well do ya got a hose ? “
Serbian Army helmet from '90s on start of the video
Get a real AK.....
That is a real ak jackass
no this cheap romanian shit
Constantine it's still an ak..an akm..not an ak47..two different guns of the same type .aks good quality aren't cheap...at all..unless you're on the black market
Get a real clue.
Nikola Poiukov Not in America
Would you mine doing one on the new vska
What Does AKM stands for???
American Killing Machine
that's an akm
No its not, its a shitty century arms ripoff
When did the WASR 10 have a chrome\unfinished bolt. I thought they were black?
don't ever buy American aks those aren't aks
specifically not century
Spyder WASRs are made in Romania
Matthew Smith yes but no century
Spyder the only thing century does to WASRs is mill the mag well to accept full capacity and hight capacity drums and mags
Try a real AK, which is made in Russia. This AK, which you use - cheap Romanian fake.
Can you do the AR meltdown even. You always make the AK better.
funny thing is he is wearing a Yugoslavian helmet that has insignia from the guys they bombed in 1999. honestly i would ask him to take the insignia off the helmet, have some respect for the guys who died protecting that country from NATO scum (mostly planes from the US) that bombed a hospital where 81 baby was killed, not to mention bridge that was bombed while a train full of civilians was on it, and so on... just have a little respect... all that i ask...
+Огњен Шеша Kosovj je Serbje!
Keep up your bitching.
GoldOilandDiamonds
i can see you have no service to your country if you have so little repsect to soliders that fought bravely against all odds... so please go serve, and than comment on stuff like this :) thank you
honestly i don't understand what do you have to do with this, i did not talk to you at all and i do not want your comments, you are here trolling and i have no interest with arguing with you GoldOilandDiamonds
then fuck off already
It is not real russian AK 47, it is romanian clone. Real AK has better quality, real AK produced only on Izmash in Russia and has claim "arrow in triangle." Russia officially not licensed AK manufacturing in EU or USA, so this is fake AK.
+Вася Пупкин Румынский Калаш говно во сравнение с Советским Калашом, а этот ещё и экспортный самозарядный вариант который был переделан в автоматический... то есть вариант в этом видио хуже чем Румынский РМ который хуже Советского АКМ
its not a fake AK its just has problem the gun is made to fire semi automatic and burst also the ammo was bad.
You're fucking stupid
I'm glad I stumbled onto your videos. I been debating on either getting an AK or AR.
Why are you using shit made Bulgarian AK -.- and btw this is not AK47... When you are comparing AR to AK use AK74 instead of AKM (ofc not Bulgarian...)
romanian dumbass
Deadlus Radek Bulgarian aks are just as good as Russian aks the WASR is Romanian
Century Arms always made unreliable garbage. I should know I owned 4 of them each one failed. Do not buy anything Century if you want a quality AK buy Chinese, Russian Molot, Russian Saiga stay away from US junk. Although there is one US manufacturer of fine built AKs that is James River in MD. You get what you pay for. Nice job Iraqi Vet.Thanks and God bless.
Century dosent make these
Century doesn't make these, Chinese, Molot and Saiga are all banned thanks to Obama and Trump.
Would cooling fins on the barrel be enough to fix the over heating problem?
(In Herreras best Russian accent)
“Ak 47 shoot too slow… new meltdown needed.”
Love my WASR. With that being said I'm a bit disappointed but not suprised. It's not made for this but it is cool to have an option made for full auto. Maybe I will pick one up soon. Cool video brother!!
How's the other side of that camaro looking? I need a new left quarter panel
I wonder how a new production wasr 10 would do in this test? (2015-present)🤔
We told Ray to bash it against a tree and the fire it and he did, the absolute madman!
Its a WASR-10 version of the AKM rifle in 7.62×39mm caliber. Was not intended to filre full auto when imported into the USA.
Iam at 0:30 and thinking. Is that amount of ammo enough?