Crazy how much fighting I've seen online where people are trashing Saka, Foden, or Trent-and saying Palmer and Gordon not starting is the problem lol. Wild
But what they lack, the entire team, including the manager is passion… the team is a reflection of the country, it’s cold, broken, divided, passionless and mediocre…. Let’s face it, winning is not in their DNA, in the same way it is for the Spanish, Germans, Italians, Argentinians. Brazilians etc….
Can’t agree with you more apart from adding Netherland n’ Portuguese. This 2nd to third class performance in not invincible to win the tournament unless 3 lions plays and shines as free as what they really are instead of running n sweating like defensive rats. 😎
I actually thought Denmark were poor...any side worth their salt would have given England a bit of a hiding that's how bad England were.... it's looking like a tournament to far for this England...a new manager will come in but who that will be I've literally no idea... you would think the f.a would have someone lined up but knowing them I wouldn't hold my breath
Sack Southgate today. I’d rather have no manager in charge than Southgate. If he was in charge of a worse country, he would be getting battered week in week out. He’s very lucky he has world class players
@@1983jamwill Southgate go he job because he was already in the England set up and it was a easy stop gap, he fixed the bond in the national team and I really respect him for that but that was ALONG time ago, he lost us the euros and should of been sacked for it. He damages us, he plays completely opposing football to the players he has. We will never win anything under Southgate, we have wasted so many opportunities because of him
We should have realized VS Italy in the final of the last euros, Tactically GS is not Up to It, no reaction when the opposition get on top,we dont need 2 midfielders in front of back 4, Any other coach with some tactical nous would get so much more out of this team
As Trent is out of position I don’t see why he can’t play LB still out of position but better all round than Trippier, you cant take walker out, his pace is needed. Walker stays back goes from a 4-2-3-1 to a 3-4-2-1, Southgate has to go though
Southgate hasn’t got a clue he doesn’t want to upset people play these players in there proper positions and for god sake drop Arnold and play Jude as an 8 and tell him to look in the dictionary for the words press and forward
3 centre defenders Guehi, Stones & Kyle Walker. Mainoo & Bellingham in centre midfield. Fullbacks Trippier & Trent on left right Folden no. 10 Upfront Harry & Saka
1:50...gives an insight into what Southgate is thinking. "If or when we score...we drop deep inviting pressure...and we will hit them on the counter attack with Saka...." Oh dear
We need to play Walker in goal and put Pickford in the midfield alongside Rice for his distribution. Southgate won't do this however - he is too conservative.
The disrespect to saka is nuts. Man is always amongst our best players but is always treated like he's just an average player. The only guy consistently performing, even when injured but fodens our best player despite never playing particularly well for England.
4-3-3 with either Trippier or Fodden and Saka playing as aggressive outside forwards. 4-2-3-1 is not working, Kane is getting no service and we have limited attacking and pressing options. Also worth noting that it is becoming apparent that England are struggling with fitness issues
Why wont Southgate change it up? Surely he can hears the boo's from the fans.. And all the people talking about how bad England are under Southgate? He really must believe what he's getting our lads do is a good tactic. He's a sausage. Get Kane manage the team and play we could possibly win the tournament. Under Southgate we will win nothing
I wouldn't worry too much. Just win the games that matter. This system where best third place finishes advance it's completely idiotic and killed the "do or die" suspense from the group matches. England were just going through the motions and secured one point. Denmark was happy for one point too. The last 15 minutes was sh*t. Without this stupid system both would have pushed much harder. 16 team tournament was much better. Every game mattered.
The problem isn't necessarily the midfield. How many times did England have the ball, yet no movement from forwards for them to pick out. You had Trent, one of the best passers in England, yet he had no runners. At Liverpool, he has Salah, Diaz, Nunez etc all looking to make runs - even Robertson knows to make a run to give him someone to 'pass' to. Kane gets 'goals' but doesn't really contribute or make the movement to press or stretch defenders. If anything, he drops 'deep' making it more difficult to get deep into the opposition half and makes it too 'congested' to play...
None of this player choice or positioning or whatever was a problem until we scored, then it all goes to crap. That's a purposeful change by the manager, and he doesn't understand that theres no way to make the team play well when you've told them to park the bus for 75 remaining minutes. It's one or the other, and if he wants to protect a 1 0 lead, doing that isnt the way because he just invites relentless pressure on his players for the rest of the game, and as we saw, the more chances you give, the more likely you are to concede. Surely far better would be to stay more aggressive and that way push them out, enjoy more space, enjoy attacking and making chances, and in all likelihood score one or two more. He needs to learn to handle teams coming back trying to equalize and dropping progressively deeper and giving up any forward impetus is not the way to do it. If he does the same against Slovenia there's no telling if we'll win because they'll have the run of the park and a goal can come out of nowhere.
Play 442 back to basics....Gomez in for Trippier, Palmer in for Saka, Gordon in for Foden, drop Trent, Rice and Jude CM, drop Kane and put Watkins and Toney up front. Grow some balls Southgate and drop the big time charlie's.
Trent didn't make a single tackle?..so somebody else has do his work?.... that's enough of that he's got to come out.... put Bellingham along side rice or switch to a 442 remove Foden and put Watkins up top with kane... with a midfield of Gordon rice Bellingham and saka....442 is easy to play it's simple and you get pace on both flanks with Watkins making the runs creating space for kane... yeah it's tough on Foden but needs must.... Southgate has got some big big decisions to make
This seems like a rational and well-thoughtout change that is popular and makes sense from a lot of perspectives so we can pretty much guarantee he won't do it.
How on earth can Eriksson dictate the game against Bellingham and Rice! What is Southgate telling them! Drop back and defend against Eriksson that World Class player who can destroy us! 😂
These players are at training camp playing table tennis & listening to Rap music the whole attitude is wrong. Go watch the England channel players farting around no discipline! If you want to win tournaments you need to be serious and have the right approach!!! Take leaf out of Spain’s book well drilled team 🏴 🇬🇧
Has anyone in England ever considered, that your expectations are overly high, based on your ideal of how you desire the outcome to be. It takes a great team to win a tournament. If GS would play an attacking style, and England would lose because of one more gial scored against them, you would want to decapitate GS, too. Most other teams declare their desire to want to win, yet they are much more down to earth and reasonable.
I've had the same thoughts but it's way beyond Southgate's talents, and doesn't really make sense if you think about it, anyway. To play well you need to drill good play into the players. Training them to bluff will just make them incapable of playing properly
@@dondamon4669 I would not say terrible players at all, but if your point is they overrated then I agree. We hear the same rhetoric every time about the honor of playing for England.... I don't speak German or Italian or Georgian, so I don't know what they are saying but actions speak louder than words. How can they turn up to a tournament where literally dozens of games are in display of high energy, passionate and committed performance with massive effort, then England turn up,play with no effort,they stand out massively. Southgate aint the sharpest knife in the drawer but how can these players get away with the physical output they have displayed,especially when compared to every other team in the tournament. Then as they are powerful brands use or rely on their minions in the media to convince us we have not just seen a team who are only willing to put the bare minimum in physically. The way these players attack the negative and ungrateful fans for daring to criticise them is shocking when all the fans want to see is a team try thier best. In 2018 we were not that great but the fans could see we tried our best and that's all the majority want. If they keep doing this then drop the lot of them and play a team of 2nd tier players who will listen to the manager and run through brick walls for England. I get the feeling they will have a go when the K.O games start because they will deem them games that are important enough to try in. They don't try in friendlies as they are beneath them and now group games its easy to qualify. Our players are a disgrace to the nation and to the integrity of the national game. But let's blame the manager.
Three tournaments before Southgate 2016 Euros last 16, 2014 World Cup failed to get out of the group with two loses and one draw against Costa RIca!, 2012 Euros Quarter Finals. Southgate's record 2018 World Cup Third Place, 2020 Euros Runners Up, 2022 World Cup Quarter Finals.
@@1983jamwill yes mate, Southgate although no Guardiola does not tell England to camp on the edge of our own box, don't close down whatsoever, make no off the ball runs, don't challenge for 2nd ball, don't jump for headers. These players will rely on the media to convince the fans that its the managers fault as the players generate the money and the media want to get thier noses in the trough. Our national game is rotten. I hope Southgate drops half of them.They will probably try when it gets to the knock out games, still come up short because they are not as good as the aforementioned media try to brainwash us into believing that they are
I was embarrassed to watch that. How can you take world-class players and have them produce a boring performance where they can't even do the basics like hold the ball and pass to each other?
You nailed it. What's confuses me is we have an array of attacking talent, yet Southgate wants to sit back and defend and not give them the ball after we score one
quite simple, they are not world-class players, they are not that good and why people keep ignoring the fact that it is a team full of mid-table team players (Newcastle, Chelsea, Man United....Everton, Crystal Palace??) players who lack the quality to compete in the champions league let alone qualify for it, so when they do play at international level they get found out. Truth is Englands best play maker is Jordan Pickford
@@insanebe1 I’m sorry that does not make sense. Out of the starting 11 yesterday only two were in “mid-table” teams, Guehi and Trippier, who both delivered solid performances. 6/11 were from teams who finished top three in the premier league, and Bellingham won the La Liga and Kane scored an insane amount if goals for Bayern. They are objectively world-class players who are currently playing in a horrific system…
Bellingham is not best in the 10 role. I'm sick of pundits getting on the bandwagon of 1 season there. He wasn't a 10 the season before and he won't be a 10 next season. He's a box to box number 8.
Bellingham wasn't playing as a 10 this season. Almost the entire season he was a false 9. Completely different skills required to play false 9 as opposed to a 10.
It’s simple. Play the best player in their strongest position. Use our other best players as, like for like, super subs to bring on to refresh the team.
I agree. Foden and Saka both play on the right for their clubs. Start with Foden, Saka as a replacement. Rather than sticking Foden on the left and asking him to float towards the right. Mad.
Pierre-Emile Højbjerg's game by numbers vs. England: ◉ Most touches (108) ◉ Most passes (83) ◉ Most final third entries (11) ◉ Most possession won (10) ◉ Most duels won (9) ◉ Most tackles made (6) ◉ Most shots (5) ◉ Most shots on target (4) ◉ Most interceptions (3)
The man has a fleet of supercars and wants to go offroading with them. There's no clear pressing strategy. They play defensive when they have some of the best attacking players in the world.
@@fortheloveofmusic860 I could be persuaded with Stones but Walker is class in my opinion. His pace alone puts him up there. Just personal opinion of course and I respect yours 👍
@@harrybellingham98 Kane is great goalscorer, but as an allround footballer, not so much. He doesn't create much and he's technically limited. Rice is just a decent defensive midfielder at best. Nothing extraordinary.
This really isn't rocket science. Jude has played as an 8 his whole career (except this season). Play him as an 8, Foden as 8/10, Rice at 6 and Gordon LW. Oh look, we've solved our balance/width problem, have a pacey threat in behind and can keep possession through the midfield. Yes, it means Rice won't be bombing forward but who cares... we've got better attacking players. Southgate should have been coaching this system - by slotting in a few like-for-like subs - over the last few months, instead of wasting games playing entire B teams.
Except Rice is also an 8 and has shown he can't play 6, and Foden isn't an 8 either. So your solution doesn't provide balance at all. He has to bring Wharton in and Foden has to be dropped
@@dukesb Foden can definitely play as a 10 - he keeps sneaking in from the left. Yes, Rice might like more freedom, but he played 6 at West Ham and does so half the time at Arsenal. He can do the job. As for Wharton, I'm not against him instead of Rice but Southgate's never tested him in a structured England system with other first teamers. The way Southgate uses games outside of a tournament is an absolute waste. I don't think any of us knew how Guehi would look.
Arguing about what player to drop or bring in is pointless, the system and tactics are the problem. Gareth is the problem. Any chance Klopp would accept a 1 month contract?
@@andrewh5457 potentially but the consistent problem for the last 30 years is that the team has been less than the sum of its parts. Whether the players are good enough to win anything, they are 100% good enough to play much better than they are right now
I agree to an extent - the system, tactics and lack of management are the main problem. But you also can't expect to do well in a major tournament when 3 of your starting XI are out of position. When you have a 23 man squad there is no excuse for playing players out of position. It's disgraceful - and also insulting to the players sat on the bench who are naturals in those positions!
@@aotea6983 Of course that's the manager's fault. But I was responding to your specific point that it's 'pointless' arguing about which players should play or not. It's not pointless - you need 11 players playing in their actual positions to stand a chance. 'Experimenting' with players out of position in a major tournament is unforgivable and puts you at an immediate disadvantage for no good reason.
Gordon left. Joe Gomez supporting him at left back. Gomez played there with great success for Liverpool last season. He’s fast and reliable. Wharton has to start - plays through the lines and excellent at moving ball quickly.
England don't press cause Southgate doesn't have the technical coaching ability to teach an effective press, it's one thing wanting to press it's a completely different thing coaching a coherent press that won't get found out
I hate hiq the England media critise Foden and Trent even though they are playing a position they haven't played before amd then Southgate coming out saying is a experiment. Thus has to be a joke 🤣🤣.
Exactly. Instead of addressing the actual issue, which is Southgate is simply shite. They scapegoat players who didn't do anything wrong except doing what this horrible coach tells them to.
But they aren't scapegoating them. They are saying that those players shouldn't be forced into positions that don't suit them - i.e they're blaming the manager.
Completely wrong, I've not seen them criticised at all. What you're actually hearing is criticism of them in those positions. Everyone knows they're two of the best players in the squad, in the Prem etc. They do not work in the roles they have been given, the criticism is all at Southgate.
@@tomr200199 When you think of Trent playing the 'inverted full back' for Liverpool, he is basically in midfield when Liverpool have possession, he's one of the best through ball/long diagonal ball players about. Southgate doesn't let the full backs make runs forward and he doesn't even allow the wingers any width, also Kane coming deep. So he is completely wasted. He's got a left side which is non existent, Foden cutting inside and Trippier can't use his left foot. My dog can even see this, but a man on £4.88m a year with a Premier League win ratio of 25.4% cannot. I honestly do not think Southgate is League 1 standard. KUDOS to the FA!!
foden showing and asking for the ball was the only time i saw that from the england players. i think we need him at 10. Bellingham and Kane are playing basically the same game. Slow false 9. dropping deep. no pressure from either of them.
@@joso7228 haaland does run behind though and anyway my point is Bellingham and kane are both coming short and not pressing. I'm not sure even city could afford to have two players up top not pressing.
This is NOT about midfield balance, it is a manager not up to the job. Those comments about Germany, Italy, Spain and France being so much better, hit the nail on the head. Perhaps we should recall being at home against Italy, in the Euros and losing. We lost to Iceland before this tournament and showed we are not up to it. Spain beat Italy 1-0 last night. Were it not for the goalkeeper and wastefulness it would have been much, much more. Sadly, the top premiership teams would not employ the England manager. I think that says it all. Ben White will not be seen in an England shirt so long as he and his assistant work for the FA.
People calling for Wharton as if he’s a world class game changer, when he’s only had 1 cap for England so far and half a season in the top flight… We are doomed.
That Southgate is lamenting that we don't have a replacement for Kalvin Phillips tells you everything that you need to know about Southgate as a Manager!
I'm not worried about the result. I'm worried about the performance. Winning is not a guarantee, many teams have struggled to win in the earlier stages of tournaments, and gone on to win the whole competition. However, England's performance was particularly startling last night. From the slow build up play, to the lack of decision making and speed of the passing. Denmark outperformed us. Congratulations to them. I think we are overrated. We need to lower our expectations of results, but that performance was dire. Pickford and the defences passing in and around our own box was suicidal. We passed the ball out of play multiple times. We played not to lose, rather than to win. 1966 was the last world cup/euros we won. Southgate is not a great manager, but England haven't been a great side since the 60s.
Also, if a player doesn't perform well for their club, they get dropped. If they don't play well for England, they remain in the starting 11. It's not pro-active, it's fatal inertia.
We have midfielders who Southgate decided not to include in the squad (Maddison) and plays Trent who ISN'T a midfielder. He doesn't know what he is doing
He put the exact same problematic, imbalanced line up out after we got lucky with Guéhi somehow winning the aerial battle against giants from Serbia, because once again Cowardgate had everyone retreat towards their goal 😂 get out
It's the same thing with England EVERY time 😂They always talk about the things they did wrong, without EVER giving credit to the opponent. As a Dane, I sat with a feeling of disappointment. I really felt, that Denmark should have closed the game, and taken the three points. It was certainly not because they didn't have the chances they needed...
You know what also happens every tournament? The pundits talk of England players being "tired" or lacking energy. Didn't see any tiredness or lack of energy from Spain when they were bossingg Italy the other night.
southgate's a wet flannel. no charisma or balls. and its rubbing off on the players. how he is still manager is baffling. its torturous, embarrassing and painful to watch. the fans, not to mention the players, deserve more. another comment i read was spot on... another generation of talent wasted. and that Phillips comment is haunting!
The problem with England is there mentality a few personnel from England have said the most important thing is “we didn’t lose” when the top teams there mentality is the most important thing “is to win” until this attitude changes from drawing to a winning mentality nothing will change top teams get 1 goal then go on to get 3 or 4 we are set up to settle for 1 and we rarely see it out.
"Morata isn't half a player Kane is". What a ridiculous statement. And that's also why England is "underperforming". This team might be the most overrated In football history.
@@dannylad1600 Are you seriously suggesting Morata isn't half a FOOTBALL PLAYER Kane is? I bet you also think spanish side is worse than England, and the latter are actual favourites to win the whole thing. The english conception of this game is strange.
He quite literally is though. In performance: 15 goals, 4 assists vs 36 goals 8 assists. In market value: 16m vs 100m. And in availability: ~1900 vs ~2800
so Morata as won in Spain and Italy played in top clubs, real madrid, juventus and atletico madrid is the current CF in a packed young talent Spanish team proving is a leader and captain. saying that no trophies kane is a better player than others really prove you are right, the media loves to overhype players
I have the impression that coach Southgate may be suffering from depression - which leads to this anxious style of play. I can't explain England's style of play any other way. Great potential talents fizzle out because they follow the manager's instructions, among other things. Garreth steals the joy of football from the players, if only through their positioning on the pitch and the resulting "neutered" movement and running routes... I'm almost shocked because I had so many expectations of ENG (even though I'm a Spain fan)!
England is NOT a better team than Denmark at the moment, but you desperately want to believe that it is and keep claiming it for no reason, while even expecting to win easily, 🙄
If you got cancer and the tumour is causing failures to it's surrounding organs would you: a) remove the affected organs or b) remove the tumour? And please remember: It's an analogy, not a 1:1 claim!
everyone is blaming Trent, but whos been making the runs for him to pass too. Ill let you know, no one. So how can you blame a player for not doing what he has been put there for, but he actually has no one to pass too. Everyone keeps saying that he does it for Liverpool but cant do it at international level, I'm not sure if that its completley true maybe it could be the tactics, or the rest of the players cant play the way they are being asked to?
You're right that there haven't been players making runs in behind. But playing CM isn't just about 'passing'. It's frankly insulting to players who've played CM their entire careers to think that a RB can play there at an international tournament just because he's quite good at long passes.
@@2amBreakfast he's not even that good at long passes. The only players with more completed long passes in the top five leagues in Europe, who aren't goalkeepers or low block defenders, are Rodri, Aleix García, Kroos, Savanier, Locatelli and Çalhanoğlu. Rodri has 84.8% accuracy, Aleix García 64.5%, Kroos 76%, Savanier 52.1%, Locatelli 71.3% and Çalhanoğlu 70.9%. Alexander-Arnold's success rate is 49.3%. These aren't even all passes over 50 or 60 yards. It's all passes over 30 yards. It's no different to when people were claiming he and Robertson were the best fullbacks in the world because of the number of assists they had, while they were both propping up the bottom of the table of crossing accuracy across the top five leagues in Europe and the top 10 for number of attempted crosses. It's no different to someone calling a striker world class because he scored 20 goals in a season, without pointing out that he needed 180 shots or 6 shots per 90 over more than 30 apps at 12 yards to do that. So Southgate is compromising midfield or defensive balance and security for an overrated long ball spammer in a team that plays dry keepball as a defensive measure, with no real runners or targets to aim for. And this is one of many reasons why he has to go. The fact he put the exact same imbalanced XI as the one that squeaked over the line after retreating towards their own goal against Serbia in the next game against Denmark - which then unsurprisingly underperformed - is another. We might as well draft in the U21 squad and coach to finish off this tournament.
No way trents fault, Southgate said it was an "experiment" playing him there so I feel sorry for him tbh. I think we need to "experiment" with a different manager too!
@@RL-where did you magic those BS stats from? Trent has by far the most assists of any English player over the last 5 years, in fact it’s only narrowly beaten by De Bruyne. I suppose you think Mainoo will solve everything? Fact check, we lost at home to ICELAND with him playing there 😂
@@sitaylor but when Conor Gallagher comes on who’s a actual midfielder like u say he does no better probably even worse. Ye he’s not a originally a CM but creating the most chances and giving service to the attackers is what he is there for but when u have Harry Kane and foden making 0 runs in behind trent isn’t as near as useful as he could be. Come on man u should know this
@@sitaylor The whole point of the Trent experiment as far as I'm concerned is his distribution. If there are no runners the experiment is pointless and you may as well use another midfielder instead
Kane is either static or coming into midfield as he did with Spuds (sic) before going to Munich. Only wants the ball into feet and making no runs at all laterally or in behind.
The best side england can put on the pitch same back line. rice and bellingham (cm's) eze(cam), palmer and foden wide then watkins (st). After 60 mins bring on kane (st), take eze off, put foden (cam), Bring saka on as (RW). If you want to keep foden out wide you bring on maino (cam/cm) and keep foden out wide
“alvaro morata is not half the footballer harry kane is” ok bro… and how many trophies does harry kane have? while kane may be a top striker, this man has literally never touched silverware. morata has achieved: with real madrid -2 la liga titles -2 copas del rey -2 CL titles with juventus -2 seria a titles -3 coppa italia with chelsea -1 fa cup -1 europa league. kane, despite being the leading goalscorer with bayern, could’t even win the bundesliga. get out of my face
Southgate wears a helmet when he's on the exercise bike at Puregym.
Southgate wears those gloves with the string attached
He also has 1 single drop of lemon juice in his water on a Friday, just to spice it up a bit.
He charges his phone everytime when it drops down to 99%
Uses a plastic tube for his pocket change
he had heart palpatations and now suffers from ptsd after making a triple sub.
also... he apologises when he c*ms.
That second graph of our average position after we took the lead is a disgrace! 😮
All that 2nd chart tells me is that Denmark put the pressure on until they scored.
@@virtualjamie😂😂😂 give over
Crazy how much fighting I've seen online where people are trashing Saka, Foden, or Trent-and saying Palmer and Gordon not starting is the problem lol. Wild
England have a lot of world class players in the squad problem is they don’t have a world class manager, he’s not even mediocre.
He would be good at Halifax Town though, to be fair in the National league he could probably manage reasonably well
What world class players?? 😂😂
But what they lack, the entire team, including the manager is passion… the team is a reflection of the country, it’s cold, broken, divided, passionless and mediocre…. Let’s face it, winning is not in their DNA, in the same way it is for the Spanish, Germans, Italians, Argentinians. Brazilians etc….
Get Messi made in England for SG!!!!
@@lordfarquaad7896you are spot on fella!!👍
Germany, France, Spain, Italy...any of these teams will steamroll that england team.
Maybe not Italy or even France but yeah.
Not Italy
Can’t agree with you more apart from adding Netherland n’ Portuguese. This 2nd to third class performance in not invincible to win the tournament unless 3 lions plays and shines as free as what they really are instead of running n sweating like defensive rats. 😎
I actually thought Denmark were poor...any side worth their salt would have given England a bit of a hiding that's how bad England were.... it's looking like a tournament to far for this England...a new manager will come in but who that will be I've literally no idea... you would think the f.a would have someone lined up but knowing them I wouldn't hold my breath
from this comment, I'm assuming you watched the French and Italian games with a blindfold on?
Sack Southgate today. I’d rather have no manager in charge than Southgate.
If he was in charge of a worse country, he would be getting battered week in week out. He’s very lucky he has world class players
and that's why, I assume, you don't work in professional sport
@@1983jamwill Southgate go he job because he was already in the England set up and it was a easy stop gap, he fixed the bond in the national team and I really respect him for that but that was ALONG time ago, he lost us the euros and should of been sacked for it.
He damages us, he plays completely opposing football to the players he has.
We will never win anything under Southgate, we have wasted so many opportunities because of him
@@1983jamwill how wrong was I 😂😂😂
@@1983jamwill I was right
I think they would play better without a manager.
Southgate needs to change his tactics, the forwards need to start pressing high asap
He hasn't changed his tactics for almost 8 years, he won't start now.
How does Southgate keep the England for 6 years is the biggest mystery in football history for me...🤔
@@tsheporabekane4172 BLM Yes man! Everything is 'nice and positive with room for improvement'.
@@RZPPAAleave it to an English to blame black people for their white manager still in charge. Just wow.
I think southgate said the players arent fit enough to do it..which is madness
The players must be starting to question Southgate. What in the world is that second graph? We have 10 players lining up along the 18 yard line.
vs Slovenia make adjustments:
Walker • Stones • Guéhi • TAA*
Gallagher • Rice
Saka • Palmer • Gordon
Watkins
Subs: Wharton, Bowen, Foden, Eze, DF
The graphic at 2:20 when England are leading, speaks volumes.
3-5-2 with Trent and Gordon as wing backs, rice/bellingham/foden in the middle and Watkins and Kane up front. Unleash the hounds
Good shout
walker as third cb?
Yeah sounds better
Not sure how well Gordan would work being a right footed left wing back but what were doing now isn't work it so it's worth a try
Gordon over saka lol is this Southgate posting
We should have realized VS Italy in the final of the last euros, Tactically GS is not Up to It, no reaction when the opposition get on top,we dont need 2 midfielders in front of back 4, Any other coach with some tactical nous would get so much more out of this team
As Trent is out of position I don’t see why he can’t play LB still out of position but better all round than Trippier, you cant take walker out, his pace is needed. Walker stays back goes from a 4-2-3-1 to a 3-4-2-1, Southgate has to go though
Because Trent isn't a full back either. He'd get slaughtered defensively on the wrong side, more so than he always does on the right.
Southgate hasn’t got a clue he doesn’t want to upset people play these players in there proper positions and for god sake drop Arnold and play Jude as an 8 and tell him to look in the dictionary for the words press and forward
3 centre defenders Guehi, Stones & Kyle Walker.
Mainoo & Bellingham in centre midfield.
Fullbacks Trippier & Trent on left right
Folden no. 10
Upfront Harry & Saka
I hope he does not experiment on Round of 16,,,, might as well become a scientist than a manager.
I would play a 442 where Kane and Watkins at front
1:50...gives an insight into what Southgate is thinking.
"If or when we score...we drop deep inviting pressure...and we will hit them on the counter attack with Saka...."
Oh dear
We need to play Walker in goal and put Pickford in the midfield alongside Rice for his distribution. Southgate won't do this however - he is too conservative.
The disrespect to saka is nuts. Man is always amongst our best players but is always treated like he's just an average player.
The only guy consistently performing, even when injured but fodens our best player despite never playing particularly well for England.
4-3-3 with either Trippier or Fodden and Saka playing as aggressive outside forwards. 4-2-3-1 is not working, Kane is getting no service and we have limited attacking and pressing options. Also worth noting that it is becoming apparent that England are struggling with fitness issues
Why wont Southgate change it up? Surely he can hears the boo's from the fans..
And all the people talking about how bad England are under Southgate?
He really must believe what he's getting our lads do is a good tactic.
He's a sausage. Get Kane manage the team and play we could possibly win the tournament.
Under Southgate we will win nothing
Lets play the old W M formation with Finney and Matthews on the wings and Lofthouse in the middle ?
I wouldn't worry too much. Just win the games that matter. This system where best third place finishes advance it's completely idiotic and killed the "do or die" suspense from the group matches. England were just going through the motions and secured one point. Denmark was happy for one point too. The last 15 minutes was sh*t. Without this stupid system both would have pushed much harder. 16 team tournament was much better. Every game mattered.
easy... but if we finish 2nd we face Germany
If we play like that against Portugal, for example, we lose 5-1. If we don't improve massively, we have no chance getting past the semis at all
The problem isn't necessarily the midfield. How many times did England have the ball, yet no movement from forwards for them to pick out. You had Trent, one of the best passers in England, yet he had no runners. At Liverpool, he has Salah, Diaz, Nunez etc all looking to make runs - even Robertson knows to make a run to give him someone to 'pass' to.
Kane gets 'goals' but doesn't really contribute or make the movement to press or stretch defenders. If anything, he drops 'deep' making it more difficult to get deep into the opposition half and makes it too 'congested' to play...
Kane is fine holding 2 CBs but midfielders need to move
Southgate says he didn't know his assistants were betting on Englands appalling performance.
None of this player choice or positioning or whatever was a problem until we scored, then it all goes to crap. That's a purposeful change by the manager, and he doesn't understand that theres no way to make the team play well when you've told them to park the bus for 75 remaining minutes. It's one or the other, and if he wants to protect a 1 0 lead, doing that isnt the way because he just invites relentless pressure on his players for the rest of the game, and as we saw, the more chances you give, the more likely you are to concede. Surely far better would be to stay more aggressive and that way push them out, enjoy more space, enjoy attacking and making chances, and in all likelihood score one or two more. He needs to learn to handle teams coming back trying to equalize and dropping progressively deeper and giving up any forward impetus is not the way to do it. If he does the same against Slovenia there's no telling if we'll win because they'll have the run of the park and a goal can come out of nowhere.
Play 442 back to basics....Gomez in for Trippier, Palmer in for Saka, Gordon in for Foden, drop Trent, Rice and Jude CM, drop Kane and put Watkins and Toney up front. Grow some balls Southgate and drop the big time charlie's.
Trent didn't make a single tackle?..so somebody else has do his work?.... that's enough of that he's got to come out.... put Bellingham along side rice or switch to a 442 remove Foden and put Watkins up top with kane... with a midfield of Gordon rice Bellingham and saka....442 is easy to play it's simple and you get pace on both flanks with Watkins making the runs creating space for kane... yeah it's tough on Foden but needs must.... Southgate has got some big big decisions to make
Next match they should start gordan and palmer drop trent and put foden back in the middle
I’m surprised there not playing palmer that much
It not just midfield balance it tactics and southgate. Has got clue
Being a creative player is more than being able to hit long passes!
Get HK to take corners GS
Like ya did back in the day
Germany, France , Spain and Italy are begging God to have England as a rd of 16 opponent 😂😂😂 they are a joke
Did anybody expect anything else with Southgate in charge? Will not get much better when Lampard takes over.
I think he should play Lampard and Gerrard.
Southgate takes a canary with him into his garage
Bro is not to difficult Bellingham is an 8 partner him with Rice and play Foden as a 10 a play a left winger that will hold the width of the pitch
This seems like a rational and well-thoughtout change that is popular and makes sense from a lot of perspectives so we can pretty much guarantee he won't do it.
What is the name of the presenter
How on earth can Eriksson dictate the game against Bellingham and Rice! What is Southgate telling them! Drop back and defend against Eriksson that World Class player who can destroy us! 😂
Southgates cool, he's got Carlton Palmer on the bench. sorted
Hahagaqaaaa
Anti Niemis had a great season why don't he play him??
The Morata disrespect is unreal.
These players are at training camp playing table tennis & listening to Rap music the whole attitude is wrong. Go watch the England channel players farting around no discipline! If you want to win tournaments you need to be serious and have the right approach!!! Take leaf out of Spain’s book well drilled team 🏴 🇬🇧
Has anyone in England ever considered, that your expectations are overly high, based on your ideal of how you desire the outcome to be. It takes a great team to win a tournament.
If GS would play an attacking style, and England would lose because of one more gial scored against them, you would want to decapitate GS, too. Most other teams declare their desire to want to win, yet they are much more down to earth and reasonable.
Nah.... we just have a sh8t manager
Cack…there done it
PL will eat him up if he manages there after England 😂😂
SUSPICIOUS
it was as if they purposely do this
so people might think they're weak?
I've had the same thoughts but it's way beyond Southgate's talents, and doesn't really make sense if you think about it, anyway. To play well you need to drill good play into the players. Training them to bluff will just make them incapable of playing properly
its the same pattern they did back in Euro 2020 even playing at Wembley
1-0 v Croatia
0-0 v Scotland
1-0 v Czech Republic
Southgate should never have got the england job he never managed a top team because his tactics are absolutely useless.
Crazy how he gets criticism when he's performing miracles with terrible players! Imagine he had the players Sven had! Would be unstoppable
@@dondamon4669 I would not say terrible players at all, but if your point is they overrated then I agree. We hear the same rhetoric every time about the honor of playing for England.... I don't speak German or Italian or Georgian, so I don't know what they are saying but actions speak louder than words. How can they turn up to a tournament where literally dozens of games are in display of high energy, passionate and committed performance with massive effort, then England turn up,play with no effort,they stand out massively. Southgate aint the sharpest knife in the drawer but how can these players get away with the physical output they have displayed,especially when compared to every other team in the tournament. Then as they are powerful brands use or rely on their minions in the media to convince us we have not just seen a team who are only willing to put the bare minimum in physically. The way these players attack the negative and ungrateful fans for daring to criticise them is shocking when all the fans want to see is a team try thier best. In 2018 we were not that great but the fans could see we tried our best and that's all the majority want. If they keep doing this then drop the lot of them and play a team of 2nd tier players who will listen to the manager and run through brick walls for England. I get the feeling they will have a go when the K.O games start because they will deem them games that are important enough to try in. They don't try in friendlies as they are beneath them and now group games its easy to qualify. Our players are a disgrace to the nation and to the integrity of the national game. But let's blame the manager.
Three tournaments before Southgate 2016 Euros last 16, 2014 World Cup failed to get out of the group with two loses and one draw against Costa RIca!, 2012 Euros Quarter Finals. Southgate's record 2018 World Cup Third Place, 2020 Euros Runners Up, 2022 World Cup Quarter Finals.
@@1983jamwill yes mate, Southgate although no Guardiola does not tell England to camp on the edge of our own box, don't close down whatsoever, make no off the ball runs, don't challenge for 2nd ball, don't jump for headers. These players will rely on the media to convince the fans that its the managers fault as the players generate the money and the media want to get thier noses in the trough. Our national game is rotten. I hope Southgate drops half of them.They will probably try when it gets to the knock out games, still come up short because they are not as good as the aforementioned media try to brainwash us into believing that they are
Southgate is too conditioned to relegation battles and the team is set up accordingly.
good shout.
Best comment I’ve ever read about Southgate. You totally nailed it.
damn. astute af
I was embarrassed to watch that. How can you take world-class players and have them produce a boring performance where they can't even do the basics like hold the ball and pass to each other?
You nailed it. What's confuses me is we have an array of attacking talent, yet Southgate wants to sit back and defend and not give them the ball after we score one
Don't be surprised if he starts with the same eleven next match.
Perhaps they aren't world class.
quite simple, they are not world-class players, they are not that good and why people keep ignoring the fact that it is a team full of mid-table team players (Newcastle, Chelsea, Man United....Everton, Crystal Palace??) players who lack the quality to compete in the champions league let alone qualify for it, so when they do play at international level they get found out.
Truth is Englands best play maker is Jordan Pickford
@@insanebe1 I’m sorry that does not make sense. Out of the starting 11 yesterday only two were in “mid-table” teams, Guehi and Trippier, who both delivered solid performances. 6/11 were from teams who finished top three in the premier league, and Bellingham won the La Liga and Kane scored an insane amount if goals for Bayern. They are objectively world-class players who are currently playing in a horrific system…
Imagine playing 3 right backs and then wondering what’s going wrong. Absolutely mental.
GS is a loony Leftie, all very nice isn’t ladies?
Ponce
at this point. i seriously suspect southgate is involved in match fixing ring
Bellingham is not best in the 10 role.
I'm sick of pundits getting on the bandwagon of 1 season there.
He wasn't a 10 the season before and he won't be a 10 next season.
He's a box to box number 8.
Only real no.10 is possibly Palmer.
@@sidco123 Foden is a 10.
As a Madridista this is a fact, drop Jude back and play foden centrally
@@simonb1996 He's not inventive enough as he doesn't set people up he only makes opportunities for himself
Bellingham wasn't playing as a 10 this season. Almost the entire season he was a false 9. Completely different skills required to play false 9 as opposed to a 10.
Triple Durex pratgate at work again 😂
Southgate wears a snorkel when its raining
It’s simple. Play the best player in their strongest position. Use our other best players as, like for like, super subs to bring on to refresh the team.
I agree. Foden and Saka both play on the right for their clubs. Start with Foden, Saka as a replacement. Rather than sticking Foden on the left and asking him to float towards the right. Mad.
@@graemehorner6746saka is ten times the player Foden is as a right winger. Foden will be benched. He offers no width.
@@micah.101 🤡
Pierre-Emile Højbjerg's game by numbers vs. England:
◉ Most touches (108)
◉ Most passes (83)
◉ Most final third entries (11)
◉ Most possession won (10)
◉ Most duels won (9)
◉ Most tackles made (6)
◉ Most shots (5)
◉ Most shots on target (4)
◉ Most interceptions (3)
The man has a fleet of supercars and wants to go offroading with them.
There's no clear pressing strategy.
They play defensive when they have some of the best attacking players in the world.
A fleet? Two or three at the best (Bellingham, Foden and maybe Palmer). The rest are pretty average players, nothing better than others have.
@@fortheloveofmusic860 I wouldn’t class Kane, Saka, Walker and Rice as average, in addition to Alexander-Arnold and Stones. Each to their own….
Saka is a good player. But Walker and Stones? One out of a dozen players.
@@fortheloveofmusic860 I could be persuaded with Stones but Walker is class in my opinion. His pace alone puts him up there. Just personal opinion of course and I respect yours 👍
@@harrybellingham98 Kane is great goalscorer, but as an allround footballer, not so much. He doesn't create much and he's technically limited.
Rice is just a decent defensive midfielder at best. Nothing extraordinary.
This really isn't rocket science. Jude has played as an 8 his whole career (except this season). Play him as an 8, Foden as 8/10, Rice at 6 and Gordon LW. Oh look, we've solved our balance/width problem, have a pacey threat in behind and can keep possession through the midfield. Yes, it means Rice won't be bombing forward but who cares... we've got better attacking players. Southgate should have been coaching this system - by slotting in a few like-for-like subs - over the last few months, instead of wasting games playing entire B teams.
It's infuriating because it's such an obvious solution. Everyone can see it except him.
Gordon has said he can't visual it properly
Except Rice is also an 8 and has shown he can't play 6, and Foden isn't an 8 either. So your solution doesn't provide balance at all. He has to bring Wharton in and Foden has to be dropped
@@dondamon4669 Visualise what? And when did he say this? - ping a link.
@@dukesb Foden can definitely play as a 10 - he keeps sneaking in from the left. Yes, Rice might like more freedom, but he played 6 at West Ham and does so half the time at Arsenal. He can do the job. As for Wharton, I'm not against him instead of Rice but Southgate's never tested him in a structured England system with other first teamers. The way Southgate uses games outside of a tournament is an absolute waste. I don't think any of us knew how Guehi would look.
Arguing about what player to drop or bring in is pointless, the system and tactics are the problem. Gareth is the problem.
Any chance Klopp would accept a 1 month contract?
We've had the same problem since 1966, our players are not good enough.
@@andrewh5457 potentially but the consistent problem for the last 30 years is that the team has been less than the sum of its parts. Whether the players are good enough to win anything, they are 100% good enough to play much better than they are right now
I agree to an extent - the system, tactics and lack of management are the main problem.
But you also can't expect to do well in a major tournament when 3 of your starting XI are out of position. When you have a 23 man squad there is no excuse for playing players out of position. It's disgraceful - and also insulting to the players sat on the bench who are naturals in those positions!
@@2amBreakfast that's down to the management though. All roads point to the same thing.
@@aotea6983 Of course that's the manager's fault. But I was responding to your specific point that it's 'pointless' arguing about which players should play or not.
It's not pointless - you need 11 players playing in their actual positions to stand a chance. 'Experimenting' with players out of position in a major tournament is unforgivable and puts you at an immediate disadvantage for no good reason.
The difference between England and Spain is bad coaching and tactics. England have better players , Spain had better coaching.
Enhland don't have better players. Spain has a superior football culture, technically much better.
Not really. Spain is a better team.
@@stephenhill545 Facts.
Gordon left. Joe Gomez supporting him at left back. Gomez played there with great success for Liverpool last season. He’s fast and reliable. Wharton has to start - plays through the lines and excellent at moving ball quickly.
Southgate is a complete drip
England don't press cause Southgate doesn't have the technical coaching ability to teach an effective press, it's one thing wanting to press it's a completely different thing coaching a coherent press that won't get found out
Teach? The players should already have this knowledge
8 years and this clown coach hasnt got a style of play or any clue on balancing his team. Get him out
I hate hiq the England media critise Foden and Trent even though they are playing a position they haven't played before amd then Southgate coming out saying is a experiment. Thus has to be a joke 🤣🤣.
Exactly. Instead of addressing the actual issue, which is Southgate is simply shite. They scapegoat players who didn't do anything wrong except doing what this horrible coach tells them to.
But they aren't scapegoating them. They are saying that those players shouldn't be forced into positions that don't suit them - i.e they're blaming the manager.
Completely wrong, I've not seen them criticised at all. What you're actually hearing is criticism of them in those positions. Everyone knows they're two of the best players in the squad, in the Prem etc. They do not work in the roles they have been given, the criticism is all at Southgate.
@@tomr200199 When you think of Trent playing the 'inverted full back' for Liverpool, he is basically in midfield when Liverpool have possession, he's one of the best through ball/long diagonal ball players about. Southgate doesn't let the full backs make runs forward and he doesn't even allow the wingers any width, also Kane coming deep. So he is completely wasted.
He's got a left side which is non existent, Foden cutting inside and Trippier can't use his left foot. My dog can even see this, but a man on £4.88m a year with a Premier League win ratio of 25.4% cannot.
I honestly do not think Southgate is League 1 standard.
KUDOS to the FA!!
@@tomr200199 yes all the blame should be going towards Southgate for playing these players out of position
foden showing and asking for the ball was the only time i saw that from the england players. i think we need him at 10. Bellingham and Kane are playing basically the same game. Slow false 9. dropping deep. no pressure from either of them.
you don't complain when Haaland does the same
@@joso7228 haaland does run behind though and anyway my point is Bellingham and kane are both coming short and not pressing. I'm not sure even city could afford to have two players up top not pressing.
This is NOT about midfield balance, it is a manager not up to the job.
Those comments about Germany, Italy, Spain and France being so much better, hit the nail on the head.
Perhaps we should recall being at home against Italy, in the Euros and losing.
We lost to Iceland before this tournament and showed we are not up to it.
Spain beat Italy 1-0 last night. Were it not for the goalkeeper and wastefulness it would have been much, much more.
Sadly, the top premiership teams would not employ the England manager. I think that says it all.
Ben White will not be seen in an England shirt so long as he and his assistant work for the FA.
If this England team faces Germany, France, Spain they are coming home 😂
Should be the new anthem. "They're coming home" yes👍
Lmao 😝
Mainoo, Wharton and Gordon definitely need to play more
more? theyve played zero minutes. southgate out now.
People calling for Wharton as if he’s a world class game changer, when he’s only had 1 cap for England so far and half a season in the top flight… We are doomed.
Who?
Gordon should start next game let alone coming off the bench.
@@DJ_Intrusion Cant knock him he was good in the Bosnia game
That Southgate is lamenting that we don't have a replacement for Kalvin Phillips tells you everything that you need to know about Southgate as a Manager!
I'm not worried about the result.
I'm worried about the performance.
Winning is not a guarantee, many teams have struggled to win in the earlier stages of tournaments, and gone on to win the whole competition. However, England's performance was particularly startling last night. From the slow build up play, to the lack of decision making and speed of the passing. Denmark outperformed us. Congratulations to them. I think we are overrated. We need to lower our expectations of results, but that performance was dire. Pickford and the defences passing in and around our own box was suicidal. We passed the ball out of play multiple times. We played not to lose, rather than to win. 1966 was the last world cup/euros we won. Southgate is not a great manager, but England haven't been a great side since the 60s.
Also, if a player doesn't perform well for their club, they get dropped. If they don't play well for England, they remain in the starting 11. It's not pro-active, it's fatal inertia.
We have midfielders who Southgate decided not to include in the squad (Maddison) and plays Trent who ISN'T a midfielder. He doesn't know what he is doing
How can trent do anything when there is no runners?
Blame THE FA. They should take action and replace Southgate today.
Very reminiscent of the 2010 World Cup. Scrape past Slovenia and get humiliated in last 16.
He put the exact same problematic, imbalanced line up out after we got lucky with Guéhi somehow winning the aerial battle against giants from Serbia, because once again Cowardgate had everyone retreat towards their goal 😂 get out
I don’t know England manages to sap the life out of both teams. I’m literally having to entertain myself for 90 minutes.
It's the same thing with England EVERY time 😂They always talk about the things they did wrong, without EVER giving credit to the opponent. As a Dane, I sat with a feeling of disappointment. I really felt, that Denmark should have closed the game, and taken the three points. It was certainly not because they didn't have the chances they needed...
You know what also happens every tournament? The pundits talk of England players being "tired" or lacking energy. Didn't see any tiredness or lack of energy from Spain when they were bossingg Italy the other night.
We England fans need to calm down like we are a threat, weve won one trophy since international football began haha
but we are a threat to go far in the Tournament. and we should be a threat to other big teams.
but not with Southgate.
southgate's a wet flannel. no charisma or balls. and its rubbing off on the players. how he is still manager is baffling. its torturous, embarrassing and painful to watch. the fans, not to mention the players, deserve more. another comment i read was spot on... another generation of talent wasted. and that Phillips comment is haunting!
If this is how you guys are gonna play for the whole tournament then I’m sorry but you aren’t reaching the semis
Really good analysis maybe Southgate needs to take a look at this before the next game!
and then communicate it with a 20 minute speech about cohesion around the ball
It’s a sad embarrassment of riches in talent!
The problem with England is there mentality a few personnel from England have said the most important thing is “we didn’t lose” when the top teams there mentality is the most important thing “is to win” until this attitude changes from drawing to a winning mentality nothing will change top teams get 1 goal then go on to get 3 or 4 we are set up to settle for 1 and we rarely see it out.
So it was hot inside the Stadium. So score then pass the ball around and control the game.
Southgate couldn't even organize that.
Get this manager out asap
It's coming home 😂😂😂
"Has it ever been home?"
"Morata isn't half a player Kane is". What a ridiculous statement. And that's also why England is "underperforming". This team might be the most overrated In football history.
Are you seriously suggesting Morata is as good as Kane?
@@dannylad1600 Are you seriously suggesting Morata isn't half a FOOTBALL PLAYER Kane is? I bet you also think spanish side is worse than England, and the latter are actual favourites to win the whole thing. The english conception of this game is strange.
He quite literally is though. In performance: 15 goals, 4 assists vs 36 goals 8 assists. In market value: 16m vs 100m. And in availability: ~1900 vs ~2800
@@nickwoodward819 Actually, certainly not literally. Also, stats without any context. No serious arguments here.
so Morata as won in Spain and Italy played in top clubs, real madrid, juventus and atletico madrid is the current CF in a packed young talent Spanish team proving is a leader and captain.
saying that no trophies kane is a better player than others really prove you are right, the media loves to overhype players
I have the impression that coach Southgate may be suffering from depression - which leads to this anxious style of play. I can't explain England's style of play any other way. Great potential talents fizzle out because they follow the manager's instructions, among other things. Garreth steals the joy of football from the players, if only through their positioning on the pitch and the resulting "neutered" movement and running routes... I'm almost shocked because I had so many expectations of ENG (even though I'm a Spain fan)!
Playing to your strengths isn’t an option under Southgate. It’s beyond his capabilities as nice as I’m sure he is.
Horrible performance
Or maybe denmark just played better 🤥🤥🤥
Or maybe both happened 😮@@andersmortensen7415
@@andersmortensen7415well obviously…but just because the opposing team play well doesn’t mean you don’t have to make an effort
Really can’t wait for england to qualify and somehow go far enough and play against Spain/Germany/Italy. This will be the real test.
England is NOT a better team than Denmark at the moment, but you desperately want to believe that it is and keep claiming it for no reason, while even expecting to win easily, 🙄
If you got cancer and the tumour is causing failures to it's surrounding organs would you:
a) remove the affected organs or
b) remove the tumour?
And please remember: It's an analogy, not a 1:1 claim!
Shut up
Shut up
That’s a good point😂 everyone was worrying about our back four, but it turns out that’s the strongest part of our game lmfao
everyone is blaming Trent, but whos been making the runs for him to pass too. Ill let you know, no one. So how can you blame a player for not doing what he has been put there for, but he actually has no one to pass too. Everyone keeps saying that he does it for Liverpool but cant do it at international level, I'm not sure if that its completley true maybe it could be the tactics, or the rest of the players cant play the way they are being asked to?
Trent need runners or no point playing trent and play him right back
You're right that there haven't been players making runs in behind.
But playing CM isn't just about 'passing'. It's frankly insulting to players who've played CM their entire careers to think that a RB can play there at an international tournament just because he's quite good at long passes.
@@2amBreakfast he's not even that good at long passes. The only players with more completed long passes in the top five leagues in Europe, who aren't goalkeepers or low block defenders, are Rodri, Aleix García, Kroos, Savanier, Locatelli and Çalhanoğlu. Rodri has 84.8% accuracy, Aleix García 64.5%, Kroos 76%, Savanier 52.1%, Locatelli 71.3% and Çalhanoğlu 70.9%. Alexander-Arnold's success rate is 49.3%.
These aren't even all passes over 50 or 60 yards. It's all passes over 30 yards. It's no different to when people were claiming he and Robertson were the best fullbacks in the world because of the number of assists they had, while they were both propping up the bottom of the table of crossing accuracy across the top five leagues in Europe and the top 10 for number of attempted crosses. It's no different to someone calling a striker world class because he scored 20 goals in a season, without pointing out that he needed 180 shots or 6 shots per 90 over more than 30 apps at 12 yards to do that.
So Southgate is compromising midfield or defensive balance and security for an overrated long ball spammer in a team that plays dry keepball as a defensive measure, with no real runners or targets to aim for. And this is one of many reasons why he has to go. The fact he put the exact same imbalanced XI as the one that squeaked over the line after retreating towards their own goal against Serbia in the next game against Denmark - which then unsurprisingly underperformed - is another. We might as well draft in the U21 squad and coach to finish off this tournament.
No way trents fault, Southgate said it was an "experiment" playing him there so I feel sorry for him tbh. I think we need to "experiment" with a different manager too!
@@RL-where did you magic those BS stats from? Trent has by far the most assists of any English player over the last 5 years, in fact it’s only narrowly beaten by De Bruyne. I suppose you think Mainoo will solve everything? Fact check, we lost at home to ICELAND with him playing there 😂
Annoying how everything is blamed on Trent and the front 3 that started didn’t make a single run or option for a pass for the midfielders.
100% agree. no runners for him to find. the whole point of trent there is he has wonder passing over the top. he cant do that if there is noone there!
@@DuanRussel exactly
@@sitaylor but when Conor Gallagher comes on who’s a actual midfielder like u say he does no better probably even worse. Ye he’s not a originally a CM but creating the most chances and giving service to the attackers is what he is there for but when u have Harry Kane and foden making 0 runs in behind trent isn’t as near as useful as he could be. Come on man u should know this
@@sitaylor The whole point of the Trent experiment as far as I'm concerned is his distribution. If there are no runners the experiment is pointless and you may as well use another midfielder instead
Kane is either static or coming into midfield as he did with Spuds (sic) before going to Munich. Only wants the ball into feet and making no runs at all laterally or in behind.
The best side england can put on the pitch same back line. rice and bellingham (cm's) eze(cam), palmer and foden wide then watkins (st). After 60 mins bring on kane (st), take eze off, put foden (cam), Bring saka on as (RW). If you want to keep foden out wide you bring on maino (cam/cm) and keep foden out wide
“alvaro morata is not half the footballer harry kane is”
ok bro… and how many trophies does harry kane have?
while kane may be a top striker, this man has literally never touched silverware. morata has achieved:
with real madrid
-2 la liga titles
-2 copas del rey
-2 CL titles
with juventus
-2 seria a titles
-3 coppa italia
with chelsea
-1 fa cup
-1 europa league.
kane, despite being the leading goalscorer with bayern, could’t even win the bundesliga.
get out of my face