Do kea associate the color of a cohesive object with potential for a reward? Are they more likely to select a picture of a black butterfly over an orange butterfly to try for a black token to exchange? Are they able or likely to select all of the black dots on a screen and none of the orange ones, to obtain a token? ...these screens really do open up a lot of avenues. How cool!
@@AnimalMindsLab Thank you, in return for doing and sharing such neat and interesting work, and for your patience with and receptiveness to questions and ideas!
Does the type of interaction they have with the screen change in character if you have the reward sound be the "play" trill instead of the ding? (Thank you for sharing your progress and results, and for allowing questions and comments. This work is truly fascinating to see.)
Have them play some kind of simple game with the touch screen, like maybe They have to make decisions to get to the black token and gradually increase how many steps it takes to get to the black token, any bad steps lead to a softlock yellow token and starts over or maybe they can decide to start over just make sure the starting area is recognizable. (You could get them started by putting peanut butter on what ever in the game causes them to move on to the next area and have the next area immediately have the black token so they can associate that "moving on" gets them the black token, so just keep increasing how many paths after they master each level)
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Do you plan to do some type of drag an drop or selecting things in a sequence? Or maybe the probability experiment that you guys conduct previously?
It would be interesting to see if they could begin to get a grasp on language, like what apes are (somewhat) able to do. Very interested in seeing where this goes
Will be interesting to see how this pans out - I'd be interested to see them learn different "gestures" as opposed to a simple binary touch. Could they be taught to draw specific shapes on the screen with their tongues for food rewards? You could start with a low resolution grid (3x3) and gradually increase the resolution as their precision improves.
I've seen a couple of videos of other parrot species doing something like that, tracing out shapes on a children's drawing app on an iPad. It could certainly be interesting as something for us to try.
Do we know much about kea's senses of time? If not, it might be interesting to see how they do with a challenge to select a threshold number of black tokens on the screen within a certain time period to get a reward. Through Animal Minds' work, we know that they're good with visual relative frequencies, sequential movements, and possibly counting. Would it be possible to show them either a print out picture or a set of actual tokens in black and orange sandwiched between plexiglass that exhibits the correct minimum threshold of black tokens to select on the screen for reward? If they can interpret the connection there, a timing element first could be added by showing a moving graphic (shrinking bar?) after which no reward will be produced. After they understand that there is a time element, the moving graphic could be removed, and it would be interesting to see if they have enough awareness of time to continue meeting the threshold count, and for how many trials they could continue to do so. Time is such an important element in human social interactions, and seems to play a part in bird life (morning song, communally agreed dining and bathing events, etc.), but is there a sense of time, there, or is it more reliant on environmental cues? It would be interesting as far as kea are concerned... as long as such an experiment wouldn't overly frustrate them.
Do you put suncreen all the way up on your head? Ima asking for a friend, also I'm pretty concerned as well. Hopefully you find a good solution to this issue, best wishes and great vid!
Yes, I try to get sunscreen on all exposed skin right up to the hairline (which is quite high for me)! It’s also really important to get the back of your neck and ears too. I also usually wear a hat, but didn’t have it on while recording this. Glad you enjoyed the video!
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Thanks for sharing these videos about Kea, they are really fascinating!
this is actually so cool, thanks for making these videos!
Very interesting, it's fascinating to see this type of stuff.
Do kea associate the color of a cohesive object with potential for a reward? Are they more likely to select a picture of a black butterfly over an orange butterfly to try for a black token to exchange? Are they able or likely to select all of the black dots on a screen and none of the orange ones, to obtain a token?
...these screens really do open up a lot of avenues. How cool!
Thanks for all your comments, there are some really interesting and cool ideas here!
@@AnimalMindsLab Thank you, in return for doing and sharing such neat and interesting work, and for your patience with and receptiveness to questions and ideas!
Does the type of interaction they have with the screen change in character if you have the reward sound be the "play" trill instead of the ding?
(Thank you for sharing your progress and results, and for allowing questions and comments. This work is truly fascinating to see.)
Have them play some kind of simple game with the touch screen, like maybe They have to make decisions to get to the black token and gradually increase how many steps it takes to get to the black token, any bad steps lead to a softlock yellow token and starts over or maybe they can decide to start over just make sure the starting area is recognizable.
(You could get them started by putting peanut butter on what ever in the game causes them to move on to the next area and have the next area immediately have the black token so they can associate that "moving on" gets them the black token, so just keep increasing how many paths after they master each level)
Do you plan to do some type of drag an drop or selecting things in a sequence? Or maybe the probability experiment that you guys conduct previously?
It would be interesting to see if they could begin to get a grasp on language, like what apes are (somewhat) able to do. Very interested in seeing where this goes
Will be interesting to see how this pans out - I'd be interested to see them learn different "gestures" as opposed to a simple binary touch. Could they be taught to draw specific shapes on the screen with their tongues for food rewards? You could start with a low resolution grid (3x3) and gradually increase the resolution as their precision improves.
I've seen a couple of videos of other parrot species doing something like that, tracing out shapes on a children's drawing app on an iPad. It could certainly be interesting as something for us to try.
Do we know much about kea's senses of time? If not, it might be interesting to see how they do with a challenge to select a threshold number of black tokens on the screen within a certain time period to get a reward.
Through Animal Minds' work, we know that they're good with visual relative frequencies, sequential movements, and possibly counting. Would it be possible to show them either a print out picture or a set of actual tokens in black and orange sandwiched between plexiglass that exhibits the correct minimum threshold of black tokens to select on the screen for reward? If they can interpret the connection there, a timing element first could be added by showing a moving graphic (shrinking bar?) after which no reward will be produced. After they understand that there is a time element, the moving graphic could be removed, and it would be interesting to see if they have enough awareness of time to continue meeting the threshold count, and for how many trials they could continue to do so.
Time is such an important element in human social interactions, and seems to play a part in bird life (morning song, communally agreed dining and bathing events, etc.), but is there a sense of time, there, or is it more reliant on environmental cues? It would be interesting as far as kea are concerned... as long as such an experiment wouldn't overly frustrate them.
so that's who has been stealing all my pegs
Do you put suncreen all the way up on your head? Ima asking for a friend, also I'm pretty concerned as well. Hopefully you find a good solution to this issue, best wishes and great vid!
Yes, I try to get sunscreen on all exposed skin right up to the hairline (which is quite high for me)! It’s also really important to get the back of your neck and ears too. I also usually wear a hat, but didn’t have it on while recording this. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Train them to hit the like button for peanut butter.