To everyone who keeps "defining" slow and fast by using terms like Larghissimo, Allegro, etc.... congratulations! I've never in my life seen someone fail so badly at grasping a simple point. Watch the video again... this time, slow it down to "Largo".
This concept made a breakthrough for me. I played slow and practiced slow to get notes perfect, but when I sped up it didn't work. Everything sounded sloppy. I finally decided to push myself to go fast, no matter how sloppy it sounded, and I noticed my wrist and arm movements totally changed, and the lightbulb went off. I started to focus on those very specific arm/wrist movements, and slowed THOSE movements down to clean them up, before getting back up to speed.
Kiko Loureiro said it best "don't focus on the notes but rather on the relation it has towards each other". Sometimes it's not the lick you need to practice, but just one or two notes. After you connect those one or 2 notes together (for example in string skipping), you'll be able to connect everything
@@gfrancagm4017 Because for most their overall technique and physical movements change pretty drastically when playing at different speeds. Someone like Paul Gilbert can probably start off playing something completely new perfectly clean at a high enough tempo that it doesn't matter - but for the majority of players "slow" means they'll be practicing playing something in a completely different way to how they actually want to.
@@lillygodless7297 Yes, but what does that matter? No one is looking for practice techniques that helps Paul Gilbert play something fast. People are looking for practice techniques to help THEM play something fast. What is slow for Paul Gilbert has no bearing on what I consider slow. So as Janto93 said, slow is different for everyone. But it's still slow because the most important meter is the one with the guitar in their hand.
this dude has become way more charismatic than the first time i saw his videos! he used to look half asleep in his video, and now he feels like my new york bartender friend who's always cleaning a glass and tells me how to live life
Not trolling per say,.....they just think everyone wants to play at 900 miles an hour......Every guitar player need to find out what works for themselves.......Thanks much for tackling the subject!!!!.....
Feel is the most enjoyable way to playin...the big secret is...your tension in your hands wrist arms , get total control of your tension speed will always be there ..BUT it will be so much more tasteful, not the boring blah blah blah ..100mph borefest..YAWN!... Nice channel, very entertaining
Yes and classic metronome has those engraved in. The default tempo of DAWs and metronomes of 120 bpm is called Animato. A song part with base 120bpm but full bass/snare blastbeats and 32th note sweep picks on the guitar would be a firm virtuoso-jackoff territory tho. So its all on how you percieve the base beat and subdivide it for your parts. Actually sticking with reasonable baseline tempos allows you to have more expressive freedom - the subtle variation in notes and picking when you fill up the subdivision with a lot of notes - I feel with fast baseline tempo the metronome will pin you down to, well 2x more beats which can be good if you're heading for the industrial style, but for most genres, playing in the space is where it's at.
Gold advice! When I started guitar, one of the first classical pieces I learned I tried playing as fast as possible. It was mostly clean with 16th notes over 90bpm eventually ratcheting up to 130bpm. Eventually I got side tracked by the "playing slow" mantra and gave up on it altogether for a while.
the average human heart rate is around 80bpm..so i would guess that any tempo lower than 80bpm is considered to be slow and any tempo higher than 80bpm is considered fast
This is how I do it... I learn the solo slow so I get all the notes correct. When I speed up, my technique changes a little bit. When you go super fast it can get sloppy and you have to use other techniques to clean it up. So basically the faster you go the more techniques you apply.
It _is_ very exactly defined what they mean by slow. It is the highest tempo you are able to play the particular lick at. They say you should practice at this tempo until you are able to play the lick 4 times in a row without a mistake. Then you can increase the tempo by a few BPMs and repeat the whole process until you reach the desired tempo. It's _not_ sloppy language at all. You can say that this is not the most optimal method, and you know a better one, but please don't say it's not exactly defined, because it is.
Ok, so the language can be "slower than intended". The issue at hand is that slower than optimal leads to wrong techinques applied, so you can run into a wall once tempo is high enough. The alternative is to try playing fast and sloppy and get the right contours of movements you have to perform, and then perfect them.
Playing fast is not possible without a solid foundation that can only be built by practicing slowly with attention given to precision, relaxation, sound and correct movement. But equally, running is not fast walking.
When I'm learning a new technical piece, I will run through it slowly and as accurately as possible for 15-20 mins. Then I'll blast through it a couple times as fast as I can, keeping it as clean as I can I'll repeat that process over the course of days (weeks, sometimes). A number of repetitions for accuracy followed by repetitions for speed, back to back. This is how I find gains in both accuracy and speed.
Solid video. As a pro sax player with 30 years and tens of thousands of hours of practice, learning the guitar for the past 2 years has been satisfying and challenging. The methodology talked about in this video is some of the best pedagogy I've seen online regarding learning to play. Not as entertaining as some of the bigger name youtubers, but infinitely more valuable as far as real training and developing good practice habits. When you mentioned picking hand vs fretting hand vs synchronization as 3 separate things, you got me hooked. Same philosophy I use practicing and teaching the sax: break everything down into its fundamental components and work on them separately, as well as integrating them. Love it. I'm sure there are many other informative videos on your channel and I'll be working my way through lots of them. You got a new subscriber today.
This concept changed the way I practice the Guitar now. I am doing lessons with him and he has trained me to break my speed barriers. After a year of training with him, I was able to play the Hotel California solo... (which was my dream solo). You can check it out here: ruclips.net/user/shortsTWyBf1grjLw
So far, I've made the biggest gains in skill in a few months trying to get the song 40oz by Polyphia down. Initially, it was way beyond my skill level, but I wanted to learn the melodic and harmonic patterns to apply to my own playing, and so I started learning it. I learned the intro, sweep section, first and second "verse" sections all super slow, until I could play them with the correct timing (quarter notes vs eighth notes, etc...) And then, I turned the metronome up to the actual tempo, and had to relearn how I was moving my hand from phrase to phrase to keep up. I'm still not quite there, but I'm about 20bpm shy of being able to play it (mostly) cleanly at speed. But I wouldn't have gotten there nearly as fast without speeding it up initially, to get a feel for what my hands would need to do to play it at speed.
I sort of figured out that advice on my own when I was struggling to use a metronome at a certain point. Maybe my ears are broken but when it gets to a high enough speed the metronome and my notes are moving so fast I can’t cleanly sync them up. So I just stopped bothering with it and just pushed as hard as I could focusing on proper technique and after a week I’m up to about 5 notes a second on one string.
It's not just you, I've seen this discussed by focusing on every 3rd or every 4th note to keep in time. That's how you keep time at higher speeds assuming that you mastered timing at half that speed. Makes sense?
I started learning drums by trying to learn fusion grooves it was a nightmare 🤣 but eventually I got it maybe just from liking the music so much , but then I had to practice to learn slower more simple grooves In other styles but cause I had spent so much time learning the harder stuff but without building up fundamentals
From my own experience, levels of tempos (slow/fast) can be defined as such: (depending, of course on a player's skill level regarding the particular whatever it may be) > comfortably slow / non-productive slow > challenging slow (slow enough for you not to be afraid (not to panic because) of the *perceived high-speedneess and be able to play the thing to some degree, but fast enough to keep your brain (and consequently your hands/fingers) at unrelaxed/working state (which is to guarantee that you're improving) (happy medium) > comfortably fast (can be seen as the upper level of "happy medium) > challenging fast > "on the edge of falling apart" fast / crazy fast Sure, these are more of regions of tempos rather than specific BPMs First phase: you hone your technique at the "right for you regarding the particular thing" challenging slow tempo. This is where basic mechanics come together, you put it on the rails, as I like to say, at the same time you built necessary muscle strength and endurance and over the course of time get ready for the second "Shawn Lane" phase, where you challenge yourself by playing (trying to play) the thing at "challengingly fast" tempo, while trying to fix any errors at that very tempo. From there, it's pretty much going back and forth between "challenging slow" thru "comfortably fast" into "challenging fast.", gradually (and hopefully) moving towards the faster end. Yeah, and from time to time, you wanna try it at "crazy fast" tempos. Why? Well, because that gives you an idea as to what is your top speed for that particular thing (or in general), ignoring the errors and overall sloppiness, which, in its turn, changes your perception of the "challengingly fast" tempo, making it feel more like "comfortably fast." (but be careful not to harm yourself!) And as a conclusion, as one of the guitar players said (I believe it was Martin Miller but am not 100% sure): playing / practicing slow and hoping that one day you'll get fast, is like keep walking for days (and weeks and so on..) and hoping that one day you'll be able to run. That's not gonna happen. If you wanna learn to run fast(er), you should (learn to) run at slow(er) speed. Not walk but run! Of course, before that, you have to learn to walk, and even before that, how to crawl... P. S. Comfortably / non-productive slow can also be challenging in a different way. Below certain point, it's very difficult to keep the sense of rhythm (and it becomes more and more difficult) as the tempo slows down. But that's a totally different topic.
I wonder how bands like Slayer and Cannibal Corpse can play 300+ BPM speed metal with perfect accuracy, clearity and tone? Kerry King and Marty Friedman must be mutants.
This guy is full of s. There actually are tempos like largo adagio and all of that. He really goes for a false premise. A lot of false premises actually. Yes speeds 30-80 bpm are slow, 80-160 are mid, and 160-240 are fast.
HERE'S THE THING..... you HAVE TO PRACTICE what your actually going to play....! There is limited point in you practising to a metronome over the first four fretts for hours and not practising up past the 12th frett. It would be like practising all your riffs up past the 12th frett and not in the first position. A lot of guitar exercises are not thought out in terms of their practical application... you are often just advised to 'play them all over the neck'... when in truth... it's more important that you play them high up on the neck... because... THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL BE PLAYING THEM...!
Will be great that you talk about the importance of stamina on Speed and how to train it. Because many times the Speed a problems or bad sensations comes from doesnt have enough stamina. I know you practice powerlift so I think you know what I'm Talkin' about Mike, regards and great video 👍🏼
For speed picking it does come down to wrist picking vs forearm picking. Forearm picking will give the speed you want but you don’t want to erase your wrist picking because it is much more expressive. However like you said if you waste all your time on wrist picking which is what I did after watching the 90’s Pertrucci video you won’t get faster.
Everything works but not Everything works for everybody... geesh.. fast twitch and slow twitch muscle fiber isn't equal in everybody. There isn't a short cut, it's hard work, practice and dedication 🤘
Yeah, I dunno. I get that a lot of what you're talking about has to do with mindset and attitude rather than, say, logical argumentation - i.e. what works vs. what makes sense - and I agree with much of what you're saying about the practicing mindset, but I think you're wading into solipsism a little too deep here. I think it's fair to say that 120 bpm is the average baseline for most people, especially in a Western musical context. Not only does 120 bpm line up with various tempos of human physiology - our average walking speed, our average heart rate, our average breath rate, the numbers of fingers we have (4 generally), the types of motions we make when picking (i.e. alternating and usually divisible by 2), etc - but also our culturally-based understandings of time as divisible into factors of six and ten, the division of the sonic spectrum into twelve tones which all have their own pulsing frequencies and overtones, and so on and so forth. (Stepping and heart rate might not seem like they matter all that much, until you need to play with a drummer or sing and play music while walking or marching as humans have done for many thousands of years.) When you go above 120 bpm, you're going faster and when you're below that you're going slower. When you're halfway down, at 60 bpm, you're entering a school zone. When you're halfway over, at 180 bpm, you're on the highway. Of course, these are culturally conditioned metaphors and I'm kind of joking here, but the point is that our feelings about tempo and timing are much more conditioned by physical reality, including the physiology of our bodies and the physicality of our instruments and senses, than might be apparent at first blush. If we're really being honest, there's even shit that moves too fast or too slow for us to even see or hear (such as binaural beats below 20 hz), so by definition we are working with statistical averages of tiny slivers of sensory experience. Scales are basically the same thing. They arguably do not exist aside from our creation of them, but once we carve them out of the continuum of experience, they do have some tendencies and limits which are peculiar and inherent to them - as contingent upon our intervention into the spectrum of sound as that may be. Which is to say that "slow" and "fast" aren't as random or nebulous as you're making them out to be. Think of it in terms of Bayesian probabilities and you'll see what I mean. Take for example, Michael Angelo Batio. Dude can play faster than most people. No doubt there. But he doesn't pretend like he's playing at a "normal" speed. He isn't playing notes so fast we can't hear them. He isn't living on hummingbird time. He's playing fast, which is also "fast" for him. We can all see and agree to that.
It's simple plain and simple Play with the recording job done Then work out everything else thats related. Peace of paper Write down the procedure from the start It's the only easiest way Write down everything where the major minor pentanics on 6 5 4 EAF chords Ouse f alot than the full e shape and it's easy to move to a a minor type shape 5th fret BPM the drum machine. But myain think I do is when I listen tousic walking down the street I imagine the fret board under my fret hand and move your fingers it may seem strange to passers by but who cares what they think it works believe me I've been playing 30 years and of I hear something fresh are moving usually with the pentonic in mind.
Beginning right away from the start playing fast material you're not good at would only help you learn with a lot of mistakes. Rushing through practice can get you speed but won't get you quality. In fact it's quite easy to spot when a guitar player has jumped directly into fast stuff without building the blocks of quality in his playing - I've done it as a beginner and many other folks do it this wrong way, but it's just a waste of time. Can not learn to run without knowing how to walk. Not everybody is Shawn Lane.
Oh my Guy! are you an Italian? now if not Damn it!! you should be. Shawn Lane is and was a Cut above the rest of us all, simply put, He is the Botta Boom. Thanks for your 2 pennies.
What does it mean when I cannot do tremolo continuously? What I mean is I can do it a few seconds but it sort of misses the string here and there. Is that because of the wrong motion? The distance of the pick from the string? This is one mystery I keep thingking about for a long time. I think I need a teacher who can say whether or not my playing is relaxed.
Playing ultra fast just for the sake of playing ultra fast is crap. Someone like Justin Hayward can generate more musical value in 4 quarter notes than some shredders do in 10 measures.
Playing fast is like going fast on the race track. You can be the fastest on the straight away but on the twisty track you getting very slow because of the lack of knowledge of the track. Practicing the song slowly with time you will learn it 100% than with out forcing your self speed will come automatically.
There's a difference between shredding and learning how to play faster if you are a beginner. So maybe the question needs to be asked correctly. For me noticed that my strumming speed was faster than my picking speed. So I thought about that.
Lol when I was a kid I would play as fast as I could until I started feeling tingles in my arm, and then gradually taking longer and longer breaks in between reps to do other things until I'd stop for a while. Rinse and repeat 12 hours a day for a week or two then take a week or two off and suddenly everything you were working on just happens automatically.
Playing profissient slow is better than sllopy fast...if you you want to get the feeling of a very fast rythm, you start slow and you speed up...its not about the speed...it is the feel you want to get by speeding something that is not relevant to you....and also runners run always straight .. you can go backwards ,its like dancing...you start slow to get the feel and get stamina. If you got the feel and the taste,then you speed up because you know what to expect sonically ...
people worry too much about speed and technique when they should be working on phrasing and musicality....no one cares how fast and clean u play if your lines sound like exercises...technique is means to an end, not the end,
Slow versus fast is subjective. It can be different for each person. I define slow as something that is not very challenging and fast as something that is challenging. The line can be different for different people. and even if you could not find exactly where the line is, does not mean, the line does not exist. That is a fallacious argument. that being said, I pretty much agree with the sentiment of this video.
Paco de lucia! He was the fastest by bps and h can still here the individual notes. I understand what ur saying bit starting slow helps so that u have muscle memory for where the notes are then speed up once u know the pattern. If u start fast u miss notes and get into bad habits that are harder to break once u already have muscle memory. A body builder doesnt lift up a 1000 pounds the 1st day it takes years.
Why would you play with both arm and wrist at slower tempos when you can do it perfectly with a more relaxed, natural motion - just from the wrist? It's not like transitioning from one to the other as the tempo changes poses any kind of problem.
This is one more example of how the internet fucks with peoples heads. Why would you say these guys are trolling? Musicians dont have time to play junior high school games. It seems they are simply sharing their experience and knowledge.
So we can say with certainty that if you do one motion when you play slow/with more feeling vs doing the same with speed, if the motion changes, it means that the slow motion is bad? or is it still good to have one motion on certain tempos and another for fast tempos? pd: It still make sense to slow the fast motion to train it to be more precise, my question doesn't go that way, maybe the clarification isn't needed but who knows.
I used to be able to pick fast, like Paul Gilbert fast back in late 00s. I didn't have a metronome and especially the patience to practice haha so I started on a bit faster tempo. And it worked. Unfortunately I can't play it again now because somehow my picking style changed and I find it hard to fast pick like I used to. Tried the slanting and even bought an alternate picking book but my right forearm keep giving in. I just don't know how I did it then.
You were 12 years younger then, and very likely stronger. Do you do any strength training now? Push-ups? Pullups?? Look at the arms on EVH, Petrucci, and so on. If I lapse with my push-ups I get elbow pain when picking fast. Personally, I need to keep up the strength training.
@@jfo3000 The amount of muscle fibers you use is negligible. It has nothing to do with weight training but the efficiency of your motions. The smaller the movements the faster you can change to another note.
So, heres my take on this: When people say if you can play slow you can play it fast its just a fallacy. You learn it slow and then you learn it fast, but you can only play it fast if you learned it perfectly. A better phrase would be: first know the notes when you play slow and then you need to push yourself in order to play fast those notes you've learned.
Yeah Lento or slow is 45-60 bpm. Italian is the standard for tempo markings …btw just cause a set is fuzzy doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. If you want speed use Economy or sweep picking! Watch Frank Gambale’s videos
91 and under is slow and will add years to your life. 92 and over is fast and will make you feel like you will live forever. Sadly, Shawn Lane is dead.
Isn’t it curious how this instructor always slags Petrucci, Gilbert, and other world class players? In this video, the screen advertisement shows us a question, “Are They Trolling?” But the actual title of the video states it as a point of fact: Why fast pIayers ARE trolling you about building speed. Does he even know the definition of the term “trolling” (which is to deliberately antagonize someone)? Does he really believe John Petrucci and Paul Gilbert set out to deliberately antagonize would-be guitarists in their highly comprehensive and exemplary instructional videos? It appears that he has stooped to using click bait to attract viewers. In which case, it is he who is actually doing the trolling, using this cheap device to lure you into watching a so-called “instructional video” that contains (1) baseless opinions about professional guitarists well beyond his level of experience and ability, (2) a poor premise, and (3) no actual instruction on the instrument (in contrast to the guitarists he accuses of trolling). First, this instructor has taken all of the clips from Petrucci, Gilbert, etc., out of context. He does this consistently in all his videos. Go watch their videos and see for yourself. In each example, you’ll see that the point this instructor is trying to make is actually contradicted in the moments before and after the clips shown here. Second, the premise that speed cannot be defined is nonsensical. This appears to be more of a “feel good” statement that, on its face, would seem to be encouraging and inclusive. But in actuality it is untrue, and it does a disservice to you and your potential to achieve mastery at high rates of speed. Speed can very certainly be measured objectively. In other words, there is a standard for measuring fast versus slow that sits outside the realm of interpretation. To be clear, speed IS OBJECTIVELY MEASURABLE and IS NOT the subject of individual interpretation. An analogy can be made to cars. What makes one car faster than another? It certainly isn’t one’s interpretation. There is an objective difference between a car’s ability to move at 75 MPH as opposed to 175 MPH. Whether 75 MPH might “feel” fast to a particular person is irrelevant (anyone can get acclimated to the rate of speed). What is objectively true is that 175 MPH is actually fast. That is, it sits outside the realm of the typical range of most cars, because it requires physical elements not available in the average car. For most guitarists, the average range of speed achieved from general practice (that is, practice excluding any focus on speed for its own sake) is between about 140 and 160 BPM. So by diligently practicing just the basics, the average player will, without applying any extra focus, achieve an ability to play within this range. What changes after 160 BPM? After 160 BPM (or within the range of 160), a recruitment of different muscles, and of different muscle fibers, is needed that is not needed at lower speeds. This is the range where technique often needs to be changed, or at least refined. Fine motor skills will need to be developed that do not need to be developed to play with mastery at speeds below this range. Where this instructor makes a big deal about speed being undefinable, I believe he is simply confusing concepts. There is a difference between setting a metronome to a certain tempo and the number of notes played at that tempo. For example, if a player sets the metronome to 160 BPM but then plays only half notes, the amount of notes per minute is only 80 BPM. In terms of speed, any listener would interpret this as being “slow,” in spite of the metronome setting. And the player himself will feel the sensation of moving slow, not fast. (This, of course, would be an unusual scenario, because speed universally is never measured using the subdivision of a half note. When we talk about speed, the minimum subdivision generally accepted is the quarter note - however, in most forums, it’s the sixteenth note that is considered to be the standard of measurement). The metronome setting is irrelevant, it is the rate of BPM actually being executed that determines speed. Third, and finally, go and watch the actual instructional videos of the players this instructor keeps slagging. Study live performances of these exceptional and accomplished players. Take their advice seriously. More than anything, playing at high rates of speed requires commitment, because it takes nothing short of time and many, many repetitions to develop the techniques, muscle movements, and fine motor skills necessary to play at high rates of speed. Unlike what is suggested here, the gate is small and the path is narrow.
Come on man, it's really not hard at all to define 'slow' and 'fast' in this context. Slow is what you find comfortable at your level, fast is what you're aiming for. Asking for a specific tempo is a stupid red herring.
Yeah man. Those definitions of slow and fast has been around for a while... Larghissimo - very, very slow (24 bpm and under) Adagissimo - very slow (24-40 bpm) Grave - very slow (25-45 bpm) Largo - slow and broad (40-60 bpm) Lento - slow (45-60 bpm) Larghetto - rather slow and broad (60-66 bpm) Adagio - slow with great expression[10] (66-76 bpm) Adagietto - slower than andante (72-76 bpm) or slightly faster than adagio (70-80 bpm) Andante - at a walking pace (76-108 bpm) Andantino - slightly faster than andante (although, in some cases, it can be taken to mean slightly slower than andante) (80-108 bpm) Marcia moderato - moderately, in the manner of a march[11][12] (83-85 bpm) Andante moderato - between andante and moderato (thus the name) (92-112 bpm) Moderato - at a moderate speed (108-120 bpm) Allegretto - by the mid-19th century, moderately fast (112-120 bpm); see paragraph above for earlier usage Allegro moderato - close to, but not quite allegro (116-120 bpm) Allegro - fast, quick, and bright (120-156 bpm) Molto Allegro - very fast (124-156 bpm) Vivace - lively and fast (156-176 bpm) Vivacissimo or Vivacissimamente - very fast and lively (172-176 bpm) Allegrissimo or Allegro vivace - very fast (172-176 bpm) Presto - very, very fast (168-200 bpm) Prestissimo - even faster than presto (200 bpm and over) (When you get to this tempo, you usually switch to cut common time and change the beat to a half note)
You have to start slow with anything. It’s so ridiculously stupid when a guitar player says they started fast and then cleaned it up. You clean it up by going slower
If you have to clean It up slow you cannot play this fast. I wish I'd known this 10 years ago lol. Once you're good at slow you have to get good at fast, you can't ramp it up 10 BPM at a time, there are totally different mechanics involved. You have to get your hands synced playing repetitive shit with the right kinda wrist motion and pick slanting and all that crap. Once you become like this guy ,who thinks all this is nonsense because he's talented and figured that out intuitively, only then can u shock your brain into thinking as fast as your hands are moving. It would've saved me 10 years if I knew fast and slow were 2 completely different skills not a gradual ramping up.
As a non-talented guitar player(yes there are guitar player who have natural talents), I discovered that just digging in an getting used to speed is the way to be fast. You see, when you started playing slow.. you get used to it.. and that's the only speed you're gonna get used to... which is slow.. You really have to DIG into it.. even if it's sloppy.. then that where if your NATURAL talent can take it to that level.. That's where either YOU HAVE IT.. .. you YOU DON'T HAVE IT... I really believe great players just HAVE IT. It's like penmanship.. some people have naturally good way of scribbling letters than other people.. of course you CAN practice but for others.. it's just THERE. A good technique to learn is try to play few notes at such a blazing speed.. then add more notes to that as you get use to it.. until it becomes a long run of fast notes. Treat a sequence of notes as one thought.. it's called "synapse".. like 4 notes per string.. each string is thought of as 1. Then connect them to each other. For you those 4 notes is just 1 thought. But for others it's 4 notes and they think you have come up each and every note at a fast rate..
Here's what I don't get- why the hell are you so worried about the speed at which you play? You guys seem to think faster automatically equals better- it doesn't. The example you showed here- Yeah, the guy is playing blazingly fast- and it sounds like shit. You can't hear the melody; you can't hear anything- sort of a high-pitched buzzing noise- that's about it. How is that considered musical? It's an amazing athletic feat I suppose- but there's no musical value to it whatsoever. If you're going to play that fast- doesn't matter what notes you hit- you could play them all if you want, no one can hear them anyway. You might need to stay in the scale I guess- that way the buzzing noise you created is at least in key- but other than that- just have at it man, doesn't matter what notes you play.
That's it my friends. If you want to be a fast player, play fast. The articulation will grow with practice. You will never get the twitch instinct if you gradually speed up the tempo. It will also open up your confidence into playing anything fast. It will open your imagination on putting the large amount of notes in a single beat in different patterns and rhythms. If you practice with slow stuff, you'll learn only the patterns you practice. If you practice fast playing you learn fast playing.
For my part I started ripping right away. It was a tad sloppy but it cleaned up in short order. I was very fast by the mid to late 80s and over the years I found phrasing and silence to be my friends. But thats me.
I usually say to start practicing at the fastest comfortable and clean tempo you can play, then push yourself to play a few BPM faster. It's gonna sound sloppy, probably, but the more speed you push yourself, the more the base speed increases. If you can play a clean scale at 80 BPM, push yourself to play 90 or 100BPM. The next day, you may be able to play clean at 85 BPM. Keep doing that until you get the tempo you want.
I've always practiced this way and people would always be amazed by how quickly I could pick up new techniques and concepts. Kinda validating honestly lmfao call that arrogant all you want but it's the truth
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To everyone who keeps "defining" slow and fast by using terms like Larghissimo, Allegro, etc.... congratulations! I've never in my life seen someone fail so badly at grasping a simple point. Watch the video again... this time, slow it down to "Largo".
This concept made a breakthrough for me. I played slow and practiced slow to get notes perfect, but when I sped up it didn't work. Everything sounded sloppy. I finally decided to push myself to go fast, no matter how sloppy it sounded, and I noticed my wrist and arm movements totally changed, and the lightbulb went off. I started to focus on those very specific arm/wrist movements, and slowed THOSE movements down to clean them up, before getting back up to speed.
But what about the lightbulb?
Kiko Loureiro said it best "don't focus on the notes but rather on the relation it has towards each other". Sometimes it's not the lick you need to practice, but just one or two notes. After you connect those one or 2 notes together (for example in string skipping), you'll be able to connect everything
Might be different for other people but the slow to fast thing works for me
It's a colloquial use of terms.
Fast = The desired tempo
Slow = A speed lower than the desired tempo
I'd say that "slow" in this context means the tempo at which you still feel comfortable, or the tempo at which your playing is still clean.
the only problem with that is that what is fast to you might be slow for others. It's all relative
@@elguitarTom but why does this matter if we're talking about individual practice?
@@gfrancagm4017 Because for most their overall technique and physical movements change pretty drastically when playing at different speeds. Someone like Paul Gilbert can probably start off playing something completely new perfectly clean at a high enough tempo that it doesn't matter - but for the majority of players "slow" means they'll be practicing playing something in a completely different way to how they actually want to.
@@lillygodless7297 Yes, but what does that matter? No one is looking for practice techniques that helps Paul Gilbert play something fast. People are looking for practice techniques to help THEM play something fast. What is slow for Paul Gilbert has no bearing on what I consider slow. So as Janto93 said, slow is different for everyone. But it's still slow because the most important meter is the one with the guitar in their hand.
What I have heard from someone is that you should feel slightly uncomfortable.
this dude has become way more charismatic than the first time i saw his videos! he used to look half asleep in his video, and now he feels like my new york bartender friend who's always cleaning a glass and tells me how to live life
I noticed
hahaha yes, he has improved a lot. Maybe even too much
3 words.....ECONOMY OF MOTION
Not trolling per say,.....they just think everyone wants to play at 900 miles an hour......Every guitar player need to find out what works for themselves.......Thanks much for tackling the subject!!!!.....
Something about this guy's shirts, biceps and guitar placement give me strong militant vibes lol
Feel is the most enjoyable way to playin...the big secret is...your tension in your hands wrist arms , get total control of your tension speed will always be there ..BUT it will be so much more tasteful, not the boring blah blah blah ..100mph borefest..YAWN!... Nice channel, very entertaining
I agree with most of what you are saying, but there are words for specific tempos. Grave, Moderato, Allegreto, Allegro, Vivace, etc.
Yeah, I was going to make this point too, but I couldn't remember those terms for tempos. Demon weed, lol!
Yes and classic metronome has those engraved in. The default tempo of DAWs and metronomes of 120 bpm is called Animato.
A song part with base 120bpm but full bass/snare blastbeats and 32th note sweep picks on the guitar would be a firm virtuoso-jackoff territory tho. So its all on how you percieve the base beat and subdivide it for your parts.
Actually sticking with reasonable baseline tempos allows you to have more expressive freedom - the subtle variation in notes and picking when you fill up the subdivision with a lot of notes - I feel with fast baseline tempo the metronome will pin you down to, well 2x more beats which can be good if you're heading for the industrial style, but for most genres, playing in the space is where it's at.
Gold advice! When I started guitar, one of the first classical pieces I learned I tried playing as fast as possible. It was mostly clean with 16th notes over 90bpm eventually ratcheting up to 130bpm. Eventually I got side tracked by the "playing slow" mantra and gave up on it altogether for a while.
the average human heart rate is around 80bpm..so i would guess that any tempo lower than 80bpm is considered to be slow and any tempo higher than 80bpm is considered fast
This is how I do it... I learn the solo slow so I get all the notes correct. When I speed up, my technique changes a little bit. When you go super fast it can get sloppy and you have to use other techniques to clean it up. So basically the faster you go the more techniques you apply.
Hand and picking position are not the same at higher speeds. Also the pressure on the pick from the fingers changes. This is a matter of fact.
It _is_ very exactly defined what they mean by slow. It is the highest tempo you are able to play the particular lick at. They say you should practice at this tempo until you are able to play the lick 4 times in a row without a mistake. Then you can increase the tempo by a few BPMs and repeat the whole process until you reach the desired tempo. It's _not_ sloppy language at all.
You can say that this is not the most optimal method, and you know a better one, but please don't say it's not exactly defined, because it is.
Ok, so the language can be "slower than intended".
The issue at hand is that slower than optimal leads to wrong techinques applied, so you can run into a wall once tempo is high enough.
The alternative is to try playing fast and sloppy and get the right contours of movements you have to perform, and then perfect them.
Playing fast is not possible without a solid foundation that can only be built by practicing slowly with attention given to precision, relaxation, sound and correct movement. But equally, running is not fast walking.
When I'm learning a new technical piece, I will run through it slowly and as accurately as possible for 15-20 mins. Then I'll blast through it a couple times as fast as I can, keeping it as clean as I can I'll repeat that process over the course of days (weeks, sometimes). A number of repetitions for accuracy followed by repetitions for speed, back to back. This is how I find gains in both accuracy and speed.
This is the way
Solid video. As a pro sax player with 30 years and tens of thousands of hours of practice, learning the guitar for the past 2 years has been satisfying and challenging. The methodology talked about in this video is some of the best pedagogy I've seen online regarding learning to play. Not as entertaining as some of the bigger name youtubers, but infinitely more valuable as far as real training and developing good practice habits. When you mentioned picking hand vs fretting hand vs synchronization as 3 separate things, you got me hooked. Same philosophy I use practicing and teaching the sax: break everything down into its fundamental components and work on them separately, as well as integrating them.
Love it. I'm sure there are many other informative videos on your channel and I'll be working my way through lots of them. You got a new subscriber today.
This concept changed the way I practice the Guitar now. I am doing lessons with him and he has trained me to break my speed barriers. After a year of training with him, I was able to play the Hotel California solo... (which was my dream solo). You can check it out here: ruclips.net/user/shortsTWyBf1grjLw
So far, I've made the biggest gains in skill in a few months trying to get the song 40oz by Polyphia down. Initially, it was way beyond my skill level, but I wanted to learn the melodic and harmonic patterns to apply to my own playing, and so I started learning it. I learned the intro, sweep section, first and second "verse" sections all super slow, until I could play them with the correct timing (quarter notes vs eighth notes, etc...) And then, I turned the metronome up to the actual tempo, and had to relearn how I was moving my hand from phrase to phrase to keep up. I'm still not quite there, but I'm about 20bpm shy of being able to play it (mostly) cleanly at speed. But I wouldn't have gotten there nearly as fast without speeding it up initially, to get a feel for what my hands would need to do to play it at speed.
I sort of figured out that advice on my own when I was struggling to use a metronome at a certain point. Maybe my ears are broken but when it gets to a high enough speed the metronome and my notes are moving so fast I can’t cleanly sync them up. So I just stopped bothering with it and just pushed as hard as I could focusing on proper technique and after a week I’m up to about 5 notes a second on one string.
It's not just you, I've seen this discussed by focusing on every 3rd or every 4th note to keep in time. That's how you keep time at higher speeds assuming that you mastered timing at half that speed. Makes sense?
I started learning drums by trying to learn fusion grooves it was a nightmare 🤣 but eventually I got it maybe just from liking the music so much , but then I had to practice to learn slower more simple grooves In other styles but cause I had spent so much time learning the harder stuff but without building up fundamentals
From my own experience,
levels of tempos (slow/fast) can be defined as such: (depending, of course on a player's skill level regarding the particular whatever it may be)
> comfortably slow / non-productive slow
> challenging slow (slow enough for you not to be afraid (not to panic because) of the *perceived high-speedneess and be able to play the thing to some degree, but fast enough to keep your brain (and consequently your hands/fingers) at unrelaxed/working state (which is to guarantee that you're improving)
(happy medium)
> comfortably fast (can be seen as the upper level of "happy medium)
> challenging fast
> "on the edge of falling apart" fast / crazy fast
Sure, these are more of regions of tempos rather than specific BPMs
First phase: you hone your technique at the "right for you regarding the particular thing" challenging slow tempo. This is where basic mechanics come together, you put it on the rails, as I like to say, at the same time you built necessary muscle strength and endurance and over the course of time get ready for the second "Shawn Lane" phase, where you challenge yourself by playing (trying to play) the thing at "challengingly fast" tempo, while trying to fix any errors at that very tempo. From there, it's pretty much going back and forth between "challenging slow" thru "comfortably fast" into "challenging fast.", gradually (and hopefully) moving towards the faster end. Yeah, and from time to time, you wanna try it at "crazy fast" tempos. Why? Well, because that gives you an idea as to what is your top speed for that particular thing (or in general), ignoring the errors and overall sloppiness, which, in its turn, changes your perception of the "challengingly fast" tempo, making it feel more like "comfortably fast." (but be careful not to harm yourself!)
And as a conclusion, as one of the guitar players said (I believe it was Martin Miller but am not 100% sure): playing / practicing slow and hoping that one day you'll get fast, is like keep walking for days (and weeks and so on..) and hoping that one day you'll be able to run. That's not gonna happen. If you wanna learn to run fast(er), you should (learn to) run at slow(er) speed. Not walk but run! Of course, before that, you have to learn to walk, and even before that, how to crawl...
P. S. Comfortably / non-productive slow can also be challenging in a different way. Below certain point, it's very difficult to keep the sense of rhythm (and it becomes more and more difficult) as the tempo slows down. But that's a totally different topic.
Thank you for your logic and honesty!
I wonder how bands like Slayer and Cannibal Corpse can play 300+ BPM speed metal with perfect accuracy, clearity and tone? Kerry King and Marty Friedman must be mutants.
This guy is full of s. There actually are tempos like largo adagio and all of that. He really goes for a false premise. A lot of false premises actually. Yes speeds 30-80 bpm are slow, 80-160 are mid, and 160-240 are fast.
HERE'S THE THING..... you HAVE TO PRACTICE what your actually going to play....!
There is limited point in you practising to a metronome over the first four fretts for hours and not practising up past the 12th frett. It would be like practising all your riffs up past the 12th frett and not in the first position. A lot of guitar exercises are not thought out in terms of their practical application... you are often just advised to 'play them all over the neck'... when in truth... it's more important that you play them high up on the neck... because... THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL BE PLAYING THEM...!
Will be great that you talk about the importance of stamina on Speed and how to train it. Because many times the Speed a problems or bad sensations comes from doesnt have enough stamina. I know you practice powerlift so I think you know what I'm Talkin' about Mike, regards and great video 👍🏼
Powerlifting doesn't require much stamina. It's mostly anaerobic.
For speed picking it does come down to wrist picking vs forearm picking. Forearm picking will give the speed you want but you don’t want to erase your wrist picking because it is much more expressive. However like you said if you waste all your time on wrist picking which is what I did after watching the 90’s Pertrucci video you won’t get faster.
Everything works but not Everything works for everybody... geesh.. fast twitch and slow twitch muscle fiber isn't equal in everybody. There isn't a short cut, it's hard work, practice and dedication 🤘
Yeah, I dunno. I get that a lot of what you're talking about has to do with mindset and attitude rather than, say, logical argumentation - i.e. what works vs. what makes sense - and I agree with much of what you're saying about the practicing mindset, but I think you're wading into solipsism a little too deep here.
I think it's fair to say that 120 bpm is the average baseline for most people, especially in a Western musical context. Not only does 120 bpm line up with various tempos of human physiology - our average walking speed, our average heart rate, our average breath rate, the numbers of fingers we have (4 generally), the types of motions we make when picking (i.e. alternating and usually divisible by 2), etc - but also our culturally-based understandings of time as divisible into factors of six and ten, the division of the sonic spectrum into twelve tones which all have their own pulsing frequencies and overtones, and so on and so forth. (Stepping and heart rate might not seem like they matter all that much, until you need to play with a drummer or sing and play music while walking or marching as humans have done for many thousands of years.)
When you go above 120 bpm, you're going faster and when you're below that you're going slower. When you're halfway down, at 60 bpm, you're entering a school zone. When you're halfway over, at 180 bpm, you're on the highway. Of course, these are culturally conditioned metaphors and I'm kind of joking here, but the point is that our feelings about tempo and timing are much more conditioned by physical reality, including the physiology of our bodies and the physicality of our instruments and senses, than might be apparent at first blush. If we're really being honest, there's even shit that moves too fast or too slow for us to even see or hear (such as binaural beats below 20 hz), so by definition we are working with statistical averages of tiny slivers of sensory experience. Scales are basically the same thing. They arguably do not exist aside from our creation of them, but once we carve them out of the continuum of experience, they do have some tendencies and limits which are peculiar and inherent to them - as contingent upon our intervention into the spectrum of sound as that may be. Which is to say that "slow" and "fast" aren't as random or nebulous as you're making them out to be. Think of it in terms of Bayesian probabilities and you'll see what I mean.
Take for example, Michael Angelo Batio. Dude can play faster than most people. No doubt there. But he doesn't pretend like he's playing at a "normal" speed. He isn't playing notes so fast we can't hear them. He isn't living on hummingbird time. He's playing fast, which is also "fast" for him. We can all see and agree to that.
simple, presto = fast.
Pettrucci is another guitarist who preached truth on this openly and generously
Slow playing never made any progress for me. I just naturally did what Shawn Lane said in his vid. I just playing like shit fast and then got cleaner.
I thought we talked about this.
EVERYONE in music is a troll.
That became clear when Amy Grant played us all for a fool.
It's not about speed. Ask any woman.
Its about the touch and feel that matters most.
No shit but this video is
I watched a guitar vid and my 1 rep max increased by 20%. Which workout vid should I watch before attempting some paganini?
Einstein always said time was relative. My fingers may be moving slowly through space, but they're moving faster through time.
It's simple plain and simple
Play with the recording job done
Then work out everything else thats related.
Peace of paper
Write down the procedure from the start
It's the only easiest way
Write down everything where the major minor pentanics on 6 5 4 EAF chords Ouse f alot than the full e shape and it's easy to move to a a minor type shape 5th fret
BPM the drum machine.
But myain think I do is when I listen tousic walking down the street I imagine the fret board under my fret hand and move your fingers it may seem strange to passers by but who cares what they think it works believe me I've been playing 30 years and of I hear something fresh are moving usually with the pentonic in mind.
Beginning right away from the start playing fast material you're not good at would only help you learn with a lot of mistakes. Rushing through practice can get you speed but won't get you quality. In fact it's quite easy to spot when a guitar player has jumped directly into fast stuff without building the blocks of quality in his playing - I've done it as a beginner and many other folks do it this wrong way, but it's just a waste of time.
Can not learn to run without knowing how to walk. Not everybody is Shawn Lane.
Oh my Guy! are you an Italian? now if not Damn it!! you should be. Shawn Lane is and was a Cut above the rest of us all, simply put, He is the Botta Boom. Thanks for your 2 pennies.
What does it mean when I cannot do tremolo continuously? What I mean is I can do it a few seconds but it sort of misses the string here and there. Is that because of the wrong motion? The distance of the pick from the string? This is one mystery I keep thingking about for a long time. I think I need a teacher who can say whether or not my playing is relaxed.
Playing ultra fast just for the sake of playing ultra fast is crap. Someone like Justin Hayward can generate more musical value in 4 quarter notes than some shredders do in 10 measures.
Playing fast is like going fast on the race track. You can be the fastest on the straight away but on the twisty track you getting very slow because of the lack of knowledge of the track. Practicing the song slowly with time you will learn it 100% than with out forcing your self speed will come automatically.
There's a difference between shredding and learning how to play faster if you are a beginner. So maybe the question needs to be asked correctly. For me noticed that my strumming speed was faster than my picking speed. So I thought about that.
You want playing fast? Play fast at 1 fret on 1 string. Easy!
They talk SHIT 😠 Speed up....even as fast your body can do and then make it sound good and there you find control.
Lol when I was a kid I would play as fast as I could until I started feeling tingles in my arm, and then gradually taking longer and longer breaks in between reps to do other things until I'd stop for a while.
Rinse and repeat 12 hours a day for a week or two then take a week or two off and suddenly everything you were working on just happens automatically.
No "slow" or "fast" practice. You have to practice on top speed you can reach playing with good technique. That`s all.
7:56 - he finally touches the guitar, for around 10 seconds :D Sorry but I prefer playing than talking even if that theory is true :D
Playing profissient slow is better than sllopy fast...if you you want to get the feeling of a very fast rythm, you start slow and you speed up...its not about the speed...it is the feel you want to get by speeding something that is not relevant to you....and also runners run always straight .. you can go backwards ,its like dancing...you start slow to get the feel and get stamina. If you got the feel and the taste,then you speed up because you know what to expect sonically ...
people worry too much about speed and technique when they should be working on phrasing and musicality....no one cares how fast and clean u play if your lines sound like exercises...technique is means to an end, not the end,
Slow versus fast is subjective. It can be different for each person. I define slow as something that is not very challenging and fast as something that is challenging. The line can be different for different people. and even if you could not find exactly where the line is, does not mean, the line does not exist. That is a fallacious argument. that being said, I pretty much agree with the sentiment of this video.
Maybe when they say slow it’s relative from where they are they don’t give actual metronome numbers I noticed...
Paco de lucia! He was the fastest by bps and h can still here the individual notes.
I understand what ur saying bit starting slow helps so that u have muscle memory for where the notes are then speed up once u know the pattern.
If u start fast u miss notes and get into bad habits that are harder to break once u already have muscle memory.
A body builder doesnt lift up a 1000 pounds the 1st day it takes years.
Why would you play with both arm and wrist at slower tempos when you can do it perfectly with a more relaxed, natural motion - just from the wrist? It's not like transitioning from one to the other as the tempo changes poses any kind of problem.
Being super clean and making every note count come from slow practice. Build that up slowly but some licks ya just have to go for it.
This is one more example of how the internet fucks with peoples heads. Why would you say these guys are trolling? Musicians dont have time to play junior high school games. It seems they are simply sharing their experience and knowledge.
i gain my speed when i push myself to play white lion broken heart solo , i try to hit the correct notes and tempo because i really like that solo
So we can say with certainty that if you do one motion when you play slow/with more feeling vs doing the same with speed, if the motion changes, it means that the slow motion is bad? or is it still good to have one motion on certain tempos and another for fast tempos?
pd: It still make sense to slow the fast motion to train it to be more precise, my question doesn't go that way, maybe the clarification isn't needed but who knows.
I used to be able to pick fast, like Paul Gilbert fast back in late 00s. I didn't have a metronome and especially the patience to practice haha so I started on a bit faster tempo. And it worked. Unfortunately I can't play it again now because somehow my picking style changed and I find it hard to fast pick like I used to.
Tried the slanting and even bought an alternate picking book but my right forearm keep giving in. I just don't know how I did it then.
You were 12 years younger then, and very likely stronger.
Do you do any strength training now? Push-ups? Pullups??
Look at the arms on EVH, Petrucci, and so on.
If I lapse with my push-ups I get elbow pain when picking fast. Personally, I need to keep up the strength training.
@@jfo3000 The amount of muscle fibers you use is negligible. It has nothing to do with weight training but the efficiency of your motions. The smaller the movements the faster you can change to another note.
@@EbonyPope Very true. When you watch the picking hands of Yngwie and Gilbert, they move so effortlessly
I'm not a guitar player but I clicked when I saw Michael Romeo.
So, heres my take on this: When people say if you can play slow you can play it fast its just a fallacy. You learn it slow and then you learn it fast, but you can only play it fast if you learned it perfectly. A better phrase would be: first know the notes when you play slow and then you need to push yourself in order to play fast those notes you've learned.
Yeah Lento or slow is 45-60 bpm. Italian is the standard for tempo markings …btw just cause a set is fuzzy doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
If you want speed use Economy or sweep picking!
Watch Frank Gambale’s videos
I would like to add that moving your fretting fingers and picking your hand faster will not equate to a higher speed.
Accept making errors. I do not learn speach by exercising
91 and under is slow and will add years to your life. 92 and over is fast and will make you feel like you will live forever. Sadly, Shawn Lane is dead.
I took Shawn Lane's advice. Miss that guy....
If you got nothing to say play a lot of notes and hope nobody catches on.
If music is vocabulary do you want to say ibidy ibidy ibidy.
What's your speed though genius?
All talk, no show 😒
Michael Angelo Batio says you should go straight into light speed fast and work it out to perfect it
Isn’t it curious how this instructor always slags Petrucci, Gilbert, and other world class players? In this video, the screen advertisement shows us a question, “Are They Trolling?” But the actual title of the video states it as a point of fact: Why fast pIayers ARE trolling you about building speed. Does he even know the definition of the term “trolling” (which is to deliberately antagonize someone)? Does he really believe John Petrucci and Paul Gilbert set out to deliberately antagonize would-be guitarists in their highly comprehensive and exemplary instructional videos? It appears that he has stooped to using click bait to attract viewers. In which case, it is he who is actually doing the trolling, using this cheap device to lure you into watching a so-called “instructional video” that contains (1) baseless opinions about professional guitarists well beyond his level of experience and ability, (2) a poor premise, and (3) no actual instruction on the instrument (in contrast to the guitarists he accuses of trolling).
First, this instructor has taken all of the clips from Petrucci, Gilbert, etc., out of context. He does this consistently in all his videos. Go watch their videos and see for yourself. In each example, you’ll see that the point this instructor is trying to make is actually contradicted in the moments before and after the clips shown here.
Second, the premise that speed cannot be defined is nonsensical. This appears to be more of a “feel good” statement that, on its face, would seem to be encouraging and inclusive. But in actuality it is untrue, and it does a disservice to you and your potential to achieve mastery at high rates of speed.
Speed can very certainly be measured objectively. In other words, there is a standard for measuring fast versus slow that sits outside the realm of interpretation. To be clear, speed IS OBJECTIVELY MEASURABLE and IS NOT the subject of individual interpretation. An analogy can be made to cars. What makes one car faster than another? It certainly isn’t one’s interpretation. There is an objective difference between a car’s ability to move at 75 MPH as opposed to 175 MPH. Whether 75 MPH might “feel” fast to a particular person is irrelevant (anyone can get acclimated to the rate of speed). What is objectively true is that 175 MPH is actually fast. That is, it sits outside the realm of the typical range of most cars, because it requires physical elements not available in the average car.
For most guitarists, the average range of speed achieved from general practice (that is, practice excluding any focus on speed for its own sake) is between about 140 and 160 BPM. So by diligently practicing just the basics, the average player will, without applying any extra focus, achieve an ability to play within this range. What changes after 160 BPM? After 160 BPM (or within the range of 160), a recruitment of different muscles, and of different muscle fibers, is needed that is not needed at lower speeds. This is the range where technique often needs to be changed, or at least refined. Fine motor skills will need to be developed that do not need to be developed to play with mastery at speeds below this range.
Where this instructor makes a big deal about speed being undefinable, I believe he is simply confusing concepts. There is a difference between setting a metronome to a certain tempo and the number of notes played at that tempo. For example, if a player sets the metronome to 160 BPM but then plays only half notes, the amount of notes per minute is only 80 BPM. In terms of speed, any listener would interpret this as being “slow,” in spite of the metronome setting. And the player himself will feel the sensation of moving slow, not fast. (This, of course, would be an unusual scenario, because speed universally is never measured using the subdivision of a half note. When we talk about speed, the minimum subdivision generally accepted is the quarter note - however, in most forums, it’s the sixteenth note that is considered to be the standard of measurement). The metronome setting is irrelevant, it is the rate of BPM actually being executed that determines speed.
Third, and finally, go and watch the actual instructional videos of the players this instructor keeps slagging. Study live performances of these exceptional and accomplished players. Take their advice seriously. More than anything, playing at high rates of speed requires commitment, because it takes nothing short of time and many, many repetitions to develop the techniques, muscle movements, and fine motor skills necessary to play at high rates of speed. Unlike what is suggested here, the gate is small and the path is narrow.
Your comments are legendary. 👍
You actually need some speed...
To get to a barbershop to get rid of that haircut dude lol
Who knew Ralphie May played guitar.
I saw a guitar in his hands the entire video. I didn't see him play anything. Is that the secret? Am I missing something here?
STOP TELLING THEM OUR SECRETS YOU FOOOOOL!!!!!! REEEEEEeeeeeee REEEEEEEE
Hey!!! I forget to tell ya, you have a very nice looking WIG.
It’s both. You don’t just do it slowly and you don’t just do it quickly.
Come on man, it's really not hard at all to define 'slow' and 'fast' in this context. Slow is what you find comfortable at your level, fast is what you're aiming for. Asking for a specific tempo is a stupid red herring.
Is your username a preemptive apology for every comment you make?
@1:18 didn’t know Jonah Hill was a guitar player lol
Yeah man. Those definitions of slow and fast has been around for a while...
Larghissimo - very, very slow (24 bpm and under)
Adagissimo - very slow (24-40 bpm)
Grave - very slow (25-45 bpm)
Largo - slow and broad (40-60 bpm)
Lento - slow (45-60 bpm)
Larghetto - rather slow and broad (60-66 bpm)
Adagio - slow with great expression[10] (66-76 bpm)
Adagietto - slower than andante (72-76 bpm) or slightly faster than adagio (70-80 bpm)
Andante - at a walking pace (76-108 bpm)
Andantino - slightly faster than andante (although, in some cases, it can be taken to mean slightly slower than andante) (80-108 bpm)
Marcia moderato - moderately, in the manner of a march[11][12] (83-85 bpm)
Andante moderato - between andante and moderato (thus the name) (92-112 bpm)
Moderato - at a moderate speed (108-120 bpm)
Allegretto - by the mid-19th century, moderately fast (112-120 bpm); see paragraph above for earlier usage
Allegro moderato - close to, but not quite allegro (116-120 bpm)
Allegro - fast, quick, and bright (120-156 bpm)
Molto Allegro - very fast (124-156 bpm)
Vivace - lively and fast (156-176 bpm)
Vivacissimo or Vivacissimamente - very fast and lively (172-176 bpm)
Allegrissimo or Allegro vivace - very fast (172-176 bpm)
Presto - very, very fast (168-200 bpm)
Prestissimo - even faster than presto (200 bpm and over) (When you get to this tempo, you usually switch to cut common time and change the beat to a half note)
+1 for barbell training
Thanks, very reasonable, as always.
I played this video at 2X speed, it was really cool...
Fast tremolo playing is kinda boring tbh
You have to start slow with anything. It’s so ridiculously stupid when a guitar player says they started fast and then cleaned it up. You clean it up by going slower
If you have to clean It up slow you cannot play this fast. I wish I'd known this 10 years ago lol. Once you're good at slow you have to get good at fast, you can't ramp it up 10 BPM at a time, there are totally different mechanics involved. You have to get your hands synced playing repetitive shit with the right kinda wrist motion and pick slanting and all that crap. Once you become like this guy ,who thinks all this is nonsense because he's talented and figured that out intuitively, only then can u shock your brain into thinking as fast as your hands are moving. It would've saved me 10 years if I knew fast and slow were 2 completely different skills not a gradual ramping up.
Okay, I believe Shawn Lane!
1 word for building speed: speedbursts
Slow - da da da Fast - dadada......easy.
As a non-talented guitar player(yes there are guitar player who have natural talents), I discovered that just digging in an getting used to speed is the way to be fast. You see, when you started playing slow.. you get used to it.. and that's the only speed you're gonna get used to... which is slow.. You really have to DIG into it.. even if it's sloppy.. then that where if your NATURAL talent can take it to that level.. That's where either YOU HAVE IT.. .. you YOU DON'T HAVE IT... I really believe great players just HAVE IT.
It's like penmanship.. some people have naturally good way of scribbling letters than other people.. of course you CAN practice but for others.. it's just THERE.
A good technique to learn is try to play few notes at such a blazing speed.. then add more notes to that as you get use to it.. until it becomes a long run of fast notes.
Treat a sequence of notes as one thought.. it's called "synapse".. like 4 notes per string.. each string is thought of as 1. Then connect them to each other.
For you those 4 notes is just 1 thought. But for others it's 4 notes and they think you have come up each and every note at a fast rate..
The 40 year old virtuoso.
Here's what I don't get- why the hell are you so worried about the speed at which you play? You guys seem to think faster automatically equals better- it doesn't. The example you showed here- Yeah, the guy is playing blazingly fast- and it sounds like shit. You can't hear the melody; you can't hear anything- sort of a high-pitched buzzing noise- that's about it. How is that considered musical? It's an amazing athletic feat I suppose- but there's no musical value to it whatsoever. If you're going to play that fast- doesn't matter what notes you hit- you could play them all if you want, no one can hear them anyway. You might need to stay in the scale I guess- that way the buzzing noise you created is at least in key- but other than that- just have at it man, doesn't matter what notes you play.
Few people know this, but: Shawn Lane was only paid 3 cents per note. So, he had to play A LOT of notes to eke out a living. True story.
@@HowToPracticeGuitar LOL- That's actually a good one. If ppl are into it- more power to them I guess, I just don't get it.
"Slow" means practice at the speed that you ucan do it clearly and RELAXED
That's it my friends. If you want to be a fast player, play fast. The articulation will grow with practice. You will never get the twitch instinct if you gradually speed up the tempo.
It will also open up your confidence into playing anything fast. It will open your imagination on putting the large amount of notes in a single beat in different patterns and rhythms. If you practice with slow stuff, you'll learn only the patterns you practice. If you practice fast playing you learn fast playing.
Largo (40 - 60 bpm) literally translates to slowly, Allegro (120 - 156) translates to fast and Presto (168 - 200) translates to very, very fast.
For my part I started ripping right away. It was a tad sloppy but it cleaned up in short order. I was very fast by the mid to late 80s and over the years I found phrasing and silence to be my friends. But thats me.
Not using steroids is killing my gains.
Mike, you are a true philosopher of music and the instrument. Also, I was shocked when your shirt changed color ahaha! Cheers bro!
I usually say to start practicing at the fastest comfortable and clean tempo you can play, then push yourself to play a few BPM faster. It's gonna sound sloppy, probably, but the more speed you push yourself, the more the base speed increases. If you can play a clean scale at 80 BPM, push yourself to play 90 or 100BPM. The next day, you may be able to play clean at 85 BPM. Keep doing that until you get the tempo you want.
I've always practiced this way and people would always be amazed by how quickly I could pick up new techniques and concepts.
Kinda validating honestly lmfao call that arrogant all you want but it's the truth