BEYOND TWO SOULS (Zero Punctuation)

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  • Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024

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  • @r16117
    @r16117 4 года назад +388

    Every now and then, I get the urge to listen to Yahtzee absolutely body a David Cage game.

  • @JamesOhGoodie
    @JamesOhGoodie 9 лет назад +1437

    People ask why David Cage doesn't make movies and the reason is simple: it'd expose how derivative and unoriginal his set-pieces are. You'd be sitting there going "That's from Silence of the Lambs! That's from Raiders of the Lost Ark! That's from The Matrix!"

    • @JamesOhGoodie
      @JamesOhGoodie 8 лет назад +124

      The Nightcorien Geek Well, it also doesn't help that the way he re-uses things is boring, uninteresting, and just plain stupid.

    • @yarpen26
      @yarpen26 8 лет назад +68

      +JamesOhGoodie that guy is just pathetic... not only is he fixated on Hollywood that he'll never be allowed in, he is so ashamed of his own nationality that he pretends to be American (isn't that, Mr. De Gruttola?)

    • @muskatDR
      @muskatDR 8 лет назад +15

      Also games are more expensive than movies

    • @propholian3
      @propholian3 7 лет назад +31

      For some reason that never stopped Uwe Boll from ruining the BloodRayne games by turning them into stomach churning movies. Uwe and David ruining two forms of entertainment, they must be related somewhere down the line.

    • @jonah_da_mann
      @jonah_da_mann 6 лет назад +81

      The real problem with David Cage is that he fails to grasp numerous fundamentals of good storytelling (i.e. chekhov's gun, an overarching theme, good structure and pacing). The reason for this is because he does not write the story by first asking himself what the story is supposed to be about. Instead, David Cage writes his games by plotting various individual scenes first (most of which are homages and/or ripoffs of famous scenes from movies), and then he writes the story afterwards in a piss-poor attempt to create some kind of overarching narrative. The end result is an incoherent mess with no actual ideas or complete premise, and which jumps all over the place without any regard for good pacing or tonal consistency.

  • @wallyhackenslacker
    @wallyhackenslacker 2 года назад +145

    Gotta love how when most other developers appear in ZP, their face is put over a generic ZP character body, but with David Cage he is always portrayed as a gigantic inflated disembodied head.

    • @BSideWasTaken
      @BSideWasTaken Год назад +26

      An honour reserved only for him and Peter Molyneux

  • @SigmaSyndicate
    @SigmaSyndicate 10 лет назад +639

    Games like this make me wish gamers were as hard to please as movie critics. Any movie critic would've called David Cage out on this garbage 20 times over.

    • @SergioSource
      @SergioSource 10 лет назад +42

      What there needs to be is competition in this type of game, another set of devs who substantially raise the bar.

    • @SergioSource
      @SergioSource 10 лет назад +29

      Mal Nexus Telltale is for the comic book (and the franchises they make games for) consumers, Quantic Dream tries to make the "Holywood blockbuster experience", and manages to do it, the problem is the story that's crap.

    • @victorvictorson8826
      @victorvictorson8826 10 лет назад +28

      Movie critics are hard? Movie critics these days will give positive reviews to any piece of shit based on a comic book. That's not hard. If what you said was true, they would have told Zack Snyder to stop making films back in 2006.

    • @wearsjorge55
      @wearsjorge55 6 лет назад +3

      Tabula Rasa Gaming ehhh I know I'm 4 years late but I was sold on the marketing. Gaming is my life but 4 years ago I was 16 and had no idea who David cage was, his previous works or even what the game was about. I just saw you and a ghost pal fucking shit up and thought it looked cool.

    • @jonah_da_mann
      @jonah_da_mann 6 лет назад +22

      The real problem with David Cage is that he fails to grasp numerous fundamentals of good storytelling (i.e. chekhov's gun, an overarching theme, good structure and pacing). The reason for this is because he does not write the story by first asking himself what the story is supposed to be about. Instead, David Cage writes his games by plotting various individual scenes first (most of which are homages and/or ripoffs of famous scenes from movies), and then he writes the story afterwards in a piss-poor attempt to create some kind of overarching narrative. The end result is an incoherent mess with no actual ideas or complete premise, and which jumps all over the place without any regard for good pacing or tonal consistency.

  • @zeroxssir492
    @zeroxssir492 3 года назад +673

    “Supposed to be a rogue cia agent and looks more like a 15 year old boy” well... Yahtzee kind of called that one?

    • @matthewroddick9737
      @matthewroddick9737 3 года назад +108

      Yahtzee has a weird ability to predict things to an eerie level. See; Paper Mario

    • @a.dennis4835
      @a.dennis4835 3 года назад +6

      I don't get it. What did he predict?

    • @nineshotwonder
      @nineshotwonder 3 года назад +31

      ​@@a.dennis4835 while not an exact prediction, Ellen Page came out as transgender and changed his name to Elliot Page towards the end of 2020.

    • @serban031
      @serban031 3 года назад +16

      @@nineshotwonder thought it was even earlier in 2020, but yeah, this

    • @XxXNOSCOPEURASSXxX
      @XxXNOSCOPEURASSXxX 2 года назад +39

      Must be hard to be a lesbian just to be edgy and then being a lesbian becomes normal

  • @adampoole948
    @adampoole948 9 лет назад +603

    comparing david cage's writing abilities to a half melted chocolate bunny rabbit is insulting to half melted chocolate bunny rabbits

    • @silverthorne3335
      @silverthorne3335 8 лет назад +2

      +Adam Poole (animeguy4ever) Oh snap! Adam's calling David Cage out! (I'm sorry, I couldn't help it)

    • @Luxai
      @Luxai 8 лет назад +2

      +Adam Poole (animeguy4ever) I thougt inanimate objects can't even make an ATTEMPT at writing?

    • @brianworden7022
      @brianworden7022 8 лет назад +1

      +Luxai It could be a magical chocolate bunny kinda like the gingerbread man.....

    • @nottherealpaulsmith
      @nottherealpaulsmith 8 лет назад +6

      That's the joke.

    • @SupermewX300
      @SupermewX300 8 лет назад +4

      +Luxai That's why it's better than David Cage.

  • @GregTom2
    @GregTom2 10 лет назад +99

    I feel like Cage came up with scenes on their own first. A near rape, a demon's attack, spy parts, a take on CoD, and so on. Then he undertook the impossible task of putting all of these scenes into a single story.
    He then explained the story to a close friend / shareholder meeting, or whatever, and they told him:
    "Cage. Your story is not only tonally inconsistant and ethically dissonant, but it commits the sin of having a protagonist that isn't actually driven by any motive. Everything she does is just _Ad Hoc_ as if you were really desperate to get to that other part of the story. Some of her actions don't even make sense. You'd think that she would have done as much as look up the person she's supposed to kill on wikipedia or something. Then the knowledge that she killed one innocent makes her go on a rampage to kill hundreds of policemen? Also why is it that she suddenly cares about her mother right now, right after that? How did that helicopter go from some african country to a rural part of the USA instantly?".
    Then Cage, hearing what his good friend / advisor had to say fell on his knees saying: "Oh my God, how could I go so wrong... I apologise for creating such an atrocity. I promise I will fix it, I really will!"
    And then he proceeded to swap the order of the scenes so that easily impressed audiences that want to sound like they are intellectuals don't notice how incoherent the narrative actually is.

    • @arxsyn
      @arxsyn 6 лет назад +2

      GregTom2 He should just stick to writing short stories? You put them together and you call it an anthology. That's what literary people do and that don't get in trouble for it

    • @jonah_da_mann
      @jonah_da_mann 6 лет назад +2

      That's exactly what I've been thinking this whole time. After all, most of the scenes in his games are just homages and/or ripoffs of famous movie scenes, so it makes sense that he would start there and essentially write the story backwards, thus explaining why his games are so heavily disjointed and lacking in substance.

  • @mikedawolf95
    @mikedawolf95 3 года назад +197

    2:06 Yahtzee tells the future yet again

    • @aSHTEBALA
      @aSHTEBALA 3 года назад +1

      I don’t get it, could you explain please?

    • @Digital-2_4_6
      @Digital-2_4_6 3 года назад +32

      @@aSHTEBALA Ellen Page has come out as transgender, becoming a male named Elliot

    • @garr_inc
      @garr_inc 3 года назад +4

      @@Digital-2_4_6
      ... Excellent. Why not.

    • @qm230
      @qm230 3 года назад +2

      @@Digital-2_4_6 WHAT? What game did that happen in?

    • @lop1652
      @lop1652 3 года назад +4

      @@qm230 Yea, about that. It didn't happen in the game. She actually changed her gender and turned herself into a dude named Elliot.

  • @wheresmyhugat
    @wheresmyhugat 8 лет назад +178

    My favourite part of this game is when you fail a prompt and basically do nothing, say nothing, etc. and the characters you are interacting with act like they've had their question answered or object taken almost immediately instead of about 20 seconds because the player wanted to see what would happen if they waited. It sets up quite humorous scenarios in which a 13 year old Ellen Page is suddenly struck by PTSD flashbacks to that time she was in 'Nam which is triggered by someone offering a parcel to her.

  • @theEddieworld
    @theEddieworld 10 лет назад +139

    4:45
    i acutally thought you were joking... i was wrong

  • @muskatDR
    @muskatDR 7 лет назад +59

    So the next game by david cage will be "Beyond: My writing capabilities"?

  • @DerpyDosh
    @DerpyDosh 10 лет назад +764

    despite ellen page, i am still just a david cage

    • @malikoniousjoe
      @malikoniousjoe 6 лет назад +6

      DerpyDosh Because of David Cage I still cant create a good game

    • @jomama05
      @jomama05 6 лет назад +11

      Lol, Smashing pumpkins

    • @andrazprelec8263
      @andrazprelec8263 3 года назад +1

      last night david put me in a cage and elen gave me a page from a list of documments explaning why

    • @sal_monella
      @sal_monella 3 года назад +7

      Well it’s elliot page now

    • @matthewroddick9737
      @matthewroddick9737 3 года назад +1

      I can practically hear the guitar, being half broken because David Cage wrote the sheet.

  • @muskatDR
    @muskatDR 8 лет назад +653

    Good game makers: Good story and gameplay
    Mediocre game makers: Sacrifice gameplay for a story
    David Cage: Sacrifice gameplay for story, but the story is still shit

    • @therenegadegamer7422
      @therenegadegamer7422 7 лет назад +28

      muskatDR and then try to add gameplay in beyond two souls but it ends up being the worst "stealth" game I have ever had played

    • @eatme982
      @eatme982 6 лет назад +18

      Wrong.
      Good game makers intertwine gameplay and story so story affects gameplay and gameplay affects story.

    • @nathanclark2424
      @nathanclark2424 6 лет назад +12

      muskatDR And some really passionate game makers cannot write stories and so focus almost solely on gameplay

    • @matosz23
      @matosz23 6 лет назад +8

      Nathan Clark
      And we have some very weird game makers who gives us Drakengard and Nier. :P

    • @brian3634
      @brian3634 5 лет назад +2

      Eat Me What you said didn’t contradict what he said.

  • @GhostofSports
    @GhostofSports 10 лет назад +93

    "It's like the storyline is written by someone (David Cage) who didn't understand Memento" Matt, Two Best Friends Play

  • @2355Kyle
    @2355Kyle 10 лет назад +97

    "Who needs hunky boys when you have me"-Yahtzee, what a legend.

  • @pitch_blaccck
    @pitch_blaccck 9 лет назад +40

    I like how he doesn't even give David a body, he's just a floating head.

  • @Shtoops
    @Shtoops 8 лет назад +447

    I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with Yahtzee. This game is far worse than anything he said, and it brought the quality of video games as a whole down by simply existing.

    • @Shtoops
      @Shtoops 8 лет назад +77

      supermysticsonic2 IT'S A REALLY REALLY BAD GAME

    • @UndertakerU2ber
      @UndertakerU2ber 8 лет назад +3

      +Shtoops _
      Then I guess you hate Uncharted 4 as well...

    • @Shtoops
      @Shtoops 8 лет назад +22

      UndertakerU2ber Yes, Uncharted 4 is the worst thing to happen in the history of anything made ever.

    • @UndertakerU2ber
      @UndertakerU2ber 8 лет назад +9

      Shtoops _
      Uncharted 4 = Cancer

    • @spinax22
      @spinax22 8 лет назад +10

      +UndertakerU2ber it's another uncharted game. that's all that needs to be said.

  • @MrL0WEL
    @MrL0WEL 9 лет назад +354

    There comes a point when you have to abandon a game...

  • @JokerisWild4
    @JokerisWild4 5 лет назад +25

    "Press X to in some way resolve this situation"
    A profound description of all quick time events. And perhaps gaming in general if we take it far enough.

  • @phenel
    @phenel Год назад +10

    That 15 year old boy comment has aged like fine wine.

  • @Thatguy7242
    @Thatguy7242 9 лет назад +161

    The fact that the chinese has a secret underwater ghost protected base is just ridiculous. The fact that they think you're supposed to like the guy who you're told to hate LITERALLY THE SCENE BEFORE is, again ridiculous. It's like he wanted to make a movie but decided that he needed the chance to nearly rape his main character twice and that wouldnt fly in the movie business.

  • @andymcbutternubs4458
    @andymcbutternubs4458 10 лет назад +105

    Despite Ellen Page im still just a rat in a cage. That was pure genius.

  • @beholdthebanana
    @beholdthebanana 11 лет назад +28

    "Despite Ellen Page, I'm still just a rat in a cage"
    I FUCKING LOVE ZERO PUNCTUATION. Laughed for 10 minutes straight

  • @SalvadorDolbyvsZAWARUDO
    @SalvadorDolbyvsZAWARUDO 10 лет назад +305

    As an author, reading the comments that say this has a good story makes me sad. Let's start off with something simple. Aiden, the ghost? He's too powerful for anything in this story to phase you. He roars to prevent Jodie from getting raped, he blocks bullets, he can let her fall from giant heights, take on other entities which he has no experience fighting. He literally is the most powerful force in the 'game' and nothing can stop him.
    Going on to the terrible story, you know how I said he roars to stop Jodie from being raped? Yeah, well, apparently bats to the back of her head mean nothing. But don't worry, we'll see how much he cares when he tries to stop her from having a date? Gee Aiden, you sure care inconsistently. Speaking of that bat scene, earlier on we see her make a call to someone. And then she hangs up after giving some "i'm in danger" shpeel. What was the point of that? She's lonely and needs someone to talk to? Yeah, ok, sure. But wasn't she aware she was going to get lonely when she, you know, ran away? Kinda weird for her to think she wouldn't miss anyone.
    Moving back to Jodie as a character...she's empty. She isn't a character. She cries at everything. I understand that she isn't supposed to be geared for this, but, she doesn't grow. After around five years, you think she would learn how to deal with it. Or at least have some sort of tolerance.
    "I don't have friends! BOOHOO"
    "I'm being taken away from the people I care about. BOOHOO"
    "I'm a freak! BOOHOO"
    Stop whining! We get it, you feel like you don't belong, but you know what? No one cares. At all. It would mean something if you were a character with development, but no one cares.
    The entire game, at least from what I could stomach, is about her and her wants. It's never really about what NEEDS to be done. Unless, you know, she's forced into it. Reluctant characters are nice, but seriously, if you have to force them into action every time, they no longer become reluctant and just become selfish.
    What she could have done? "Hello, news station. I come from a secret military base that experiments with the supernatural. My partner, Aiden, is a ghost attached to me since birth. Oh, yes, apparently they're experimenting with demon like entities who want to murder you." after demonstrating her abilities, live and or on camera, she has successfully stopped the military and all future experimentation on the supernatural.
    Now, again, I didn't finish this game because it was puke levels of bad. So maybe she does do that, it would be common sense, right? Oh wait, but she does do something similar, she reveals her powers to the homeless. Any particular reason the rest of the world shouldn't know that, not only is there an after life, but the armies of the world are experimenting on it? No? Ok, just asking.

    • @Tardsmat
      @Tardsmat 10 лет назад +6

      lol, i might be the only Person, who actually enjoyed this. I really liked this Game, because i could really relate to the main character, and i even liked the Story and the Concept of a more realistic take on Demos and Supernatural beings. But, i just watched a let's play of it, maybe you get a better experience when you just watch 15-30 minutes a Day.

    • @Tardsmat
      @Tardsmat 10 лет назад

      Tardsmat
      TheBlackKnightGamer it was basically like a TV Show for me, maybe the Game had worked better as one. Also, Thumbs up for the sheer length of your comment.

    • @PussPussGaming
      @PussPussGaming 10 лет назад +67

      Tardsmat Realistic? Are you serious? Is it realistic to get tricked into killing a political leader when you can easily watch a news report on the leader so that you know he's not a bad guy....which actually does happen? The military's entire plan hinges on her forgetting what the internet is or what TV is. You seriously want to tell me this game is realistic?

    • @June28July
      @June28July 10 лет назад +29

      I thoroughly enjoyed this rant. Thank you TheBlackKnightGamer

    • @SalvadorDolbyvsZAWARUDO
      @SalvadorDolbyvsZAWARUDO 10 лет назад +27

      June28July Don't mention it, I enjoyed making it.

  • @GuardianOfBadass447
    @GuardianOfBadass447 10 лет назад +24

    "Context is a failure of the game designer."
    -David Cage

  • @JonMalbrough
    @JonMalbrough 10 лет назад +38

    So THIS is where Duke Nukem's Cooking Mama level went!!

  • @AragornRespecter
    @AragornRespecter 3 года назад +34

    This is now even funnier

  • @scottski02
    @scottski02 9 лет назад +92

    Well, we got the Super Best Friends Let's Play of this travesty, so at least we got some decent comedy out of it.

    • @Sean_735
      @Sean_735 9 лет назад

      *****
      AllShamNoWow played it too. That was also fucking enjoyable.

    • @JT-ho6rp
      @JT-ho6rp 9 лет назад

      +Seanathon James Link to the play through?

    • @Sean_735
      @Sean_735 9 лет назад +1

      jon doe
      www.twitch.tv/allshamnowow/profile/highlights
      Scroll down, you can't miss them, March 8th and 11th are the dates.

    • @iguanaboi3921
      @iguanaboi3921 6 лет назад +1

      Don't forget adumplaze

    • @SpankSandwitch99
      @SpankSandwitch99 6 лет назад

      My account name was too lon
      Super Best friends and Adumplaze did phenomenally.

  • @1984potionlover
    @1984potionlover 6 лет назад +6

    Hearing Yahtzee talk about a half melted chocolate bunny rabbit made me smile. It is a whimsical and unexpected thing for him to say. Thank you for the smile that this gave me. Cheers :)

  • @Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni
    @Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni 9 лет назад +138

    I am not going to complain about the story, as so many people seem to liek it for some reason. What i am going to do is ask a question which i don't think anyone can give a good answer for.
    if there is no interactivity, barely any gameplay, the choices of the player don't matter...Why didn't you just make a movie?

    • @bangarang3810
      @bangarang3810 9 лет назад +67

      ***** Because David Cage is too shit a writer to make a movie. We already know what itll involve at this point anyways
      -Near rape scenes
      -Dance party
      -Pointless flashbacks
      -unfeasibly large apartments
      -ancient conspiracy
      -creepy shower scene
      -lounging in underwear
      -noble homeless people
      -strong powerful woman saved by man
      -asshole army guys
      -mystical forces outta nowhere
      -daddy issues etc.
      Playing through Farenheight, watching Heavy Rain and now playing Beyond, I literally called every single moment and plot device just before it happened.

    • @bangarang3810
      @bangarang3810 9 лет назад +2

      Kellond Yeah I always felt that way. There are a lot of engaging moments and scenes, the beginning is usually the most fun.
      But as more plot comes and more characters are introduced and developed, the larger the plot holes grow and the higher rate at which I yell "BULLSHIT" at the TV

    • @bangarang3810
      @bangarang3810 9 лет назад +2

      Lol I got that list of David Cage tropes from David Cage bingo I found on SBF hahaha and its so true!
      Yep ancient Indian burial grounds, forced romances to hot douche bags, attempted rape scenes a plenty, and the odd stereotypical black guy - OMFG that Heavy Rain mechanic, fuck that guy! The funky basketball hoopin cop from Farenheight was kinda cool tho lol

    • @YellowZnake
      @YellowZnake 9 лет назад +2

      Because he still thinks he can make games

    • @norpdorpknorp8806
      @norpdorpknorp8806 9 лет назад +10

      Bang Arang sounds like he could create an extremely popular anime

  • @thundervolt9764
    @thundervolt9764 9 лет назад +60

    Atleast we got some good let's plays out of it!

  • @smthngbd
    @smthngbd 3 года назад +15

    came here the instant i heard about elliot page

    • @radicalraddish6292
      @radicalraddish6292 3 года назад +5

      Same. The internet is a strange place when you know his dead name is going to be archived forever in videos like this

    • @Tustin2121
      @Tustin2121 3 года назад +9

      Glad I’m not the only weirdo to instantly think about the, now, Elliot Page Variety Hour, lol.

    • @radicalraddish6292
      @radicalraddish6292 3 года назад +3

      @@Tustin2121 it's really funny cause I found out by reading variety 🤣

    • @asteelcup859
      @asteelcup859 3 года назад

      Nothing much has changed though, Page is still as irrelevant and bad an actor as ever. The whole coming out story was the biggest amount of publicity Page has received in all of his career. Can't wait for this to die down so I won't have to hear about this nobody anymore.

  • @ProfessionalSlacker1
    @ProfessionalSlacker1 11 лет назад +9

    It's funny he mentions David Cage being inspired by Silence of the Lambs, because there was a scene in Indigo Prophecy where a Clarice surrogate talks to a Hannibal surrogate, after being led in by a black security guard called Barney. The Cage Machine isn't even an original hack.

    • @aquatictoaster
      @aquatictoaster 10 лет назад +2

      Well that's David Cage's modus operandi, I really liked this scene from X movie I'll put it in my game. Beyond two souls is a mish mash of scenes from good movies that come together in a bad game. The thing that gets me is when he said recently "game overs are a failure of the game designer" you literally can't lose in Beyond anytime you get in a action sequence you can put the controller down and you will always win even if you "lose" it's really bad because you always have to end up at point B or C or D so he "writes" himself into a corner where the character couldn't possibly escape from, she was literally in a exploding truck that was flying though the air being followed by like 40 soldiers in trucks and then the next scene is WOAH lucky they didn't see us! The thing is that scene would have happened no matter what, you could have snuck past the soldiers who chased her and it would have done the exact same scene because you always had to end up there. The illusion of freedom is there but it's so thinly veiled you see right through it.

  • @appocalypsechild
    @appocalypsechild 9 лет назад +11

    ''Mummy's little insurgent'' that got me

  • @Dustinj15
    @Dustinj15 11 лет назад +9

    "Actually everyone in this game cries like altar boys after lights-out, you could use their faces to irrigate the Sahara."
    That is probably the greatest line I've ever heard.

  • @theddd15
    @theddd15 11 лет назад +39

    I take pity for those that spent 60 bucks on an interactive movie, when you spend 10 to see a real movie, with most likely a better story than this one.

    • @frostDev
      @frostDev 10 лет назад

      What's the problem? As long as it's entertaining, that's the only thing that matters.

    • @faridkhan6037
      @faridkhan6037 3 года назад

      I was one of them. Back then, I liked it. Now... I don't feel the same way.

    • @TheGrumbliestPuppy
      @TheGrumbliestPuppy 2 года назад +3

      @@frostDev Thats the issue, it isnt entertaining.

    • @thomastakesatollforthedark2231
      @thomastakesatollforthedark2231 2 года назад

      @@frostDev so go watch 60 good films instead of watching 1 terrible "game"

    • @skalty9868
      @skalty9868 Год назад

      To be fair it is 6 times the length of a regular movie

  • @alexbeedle3074
    @alexbeedle3074 11 лет назад +16

    "Written by David cage!"-"Scrawled in crayon"

  • @MrZaloski
    @MrZaloski 11 лет назад +62

    I personally kinda liked the game (well, I liked watching a friend play the game and yelling at him for not making decisions I wanted to make), but I gotta say, "despite Ellen Page I'm still just a rat in a cage" got me in a way I haven't been gotten by a RUclips channel in a while.

  • @June28July
    @June28July 10 лет назад +11

    5:11 "Maybe he's just trying not to alienate himself to the people he might have to go and live with if he keeps making games like this fucking shambles."
    Damn! Sick burn! Holy shit, ZP did not like this game.

  • @RiseOfTheKumquat67
    @RiseOfTheKumquat67 10 лет назад +15

    I watched a playthough from The Sw1tcher (the guys behind the Two Best Friends Play series) and I was genuinely baffled by how entertainingly bad the story was. I would by no means play it alone, but it could be fun to get some friends together and roast it.

  • @Flamestormq
    @Flamestormq Год назад +3

    Damn I forgot how some of these older videos smack man. Just the line alone about everyone crying like an altar boy after lights out... I couldn't breath with that one.

  • @Zexlo
    @Zexlo 10 лет назад +11

    And don't forget that fact that no matter what you do you always win so when they say to press a prompt in a quick time event it doesn't really matter because the game plays for you. (Although no game overs sound great it totally defeats the perpose of a QTE

  • @adamreese2826
    @adamreese2826 10 лет назад +6

    2:05 mummys little insurgent PROB ONE OF THE FUNNIEST THINGS HE SAID I AM DYING LOL

  • @OrochimaruFromKpw
    @OrochimaruFromKpw 9 лет назад +10

    I lost it at "but at the same time possess the writing of a half melted chocolate bunny rabbit"
    XD

  • @TheStalkingEmu
    @TheStalkingEmu 10 лет назад +17

    It would've been funny if he mentioned David Cage Bingo.

  • @damobeck1
    @damobeck1 10 лет назад +35

    He is right the concept behind the game is good, the game itself was shit though. There were a few gold moments, such as the revenge scene, but other than that.

  • @BadAnalogy91
    @BadAnalogy91 2 года назад +5

    You know, “The Amazing Back-Titted Woman” sounds like an interesting co-op experience.

  • @eirishuichiyuki
    @eirishuichiyuki 8 лет назад +16

    "THE ELLEN PAGE VARIETY HOUR"
    IM SCREAMING
    OMG LMAO

  • @Greener221
    @Greener221 8 лет назад +10

    >831,831 views
    >1999 comments
    >313 dislikes
    Time to ruin everything.

    • @hyperx72
      @hyperx72 8 лет назад

      +Greener221 I don't get it.

    • @Greener221
      @Greener221 8 лет назад

      hyperx72 I just thought all those numbers together was funny.

    • @hyperx72
      @hyperx72 8 лет назад

      Stig larsen 7 people thought it was, sir comedy police.

  • @mitchlmitten5874
    @mitchlmitten5874 9 лет назад +271

    _Despite Ellen Page, I am still just a rat in a cage!_

    • @mitchlmitten5874
      @mitchlmitten5874 9 лет назад +28

      +Mitch L (Mitten) _Despite David Spade, what is lost can never be saved!_

    • @willferrous8677
      @willferrous8677 8 лет назад +18

      +Mitch L (Mitten) _Despite David Cage, I am still just a rat in a CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE_

    • @Indeside
      @Indeside 8 лет назад

      *despite everything, it's still you.

    • @nathanclark2424
      @nathanclark2424 6 лет назад +2

      "David "I'm Just A Rat In A" Cage" works as well

  • @TheoHiggins
    @TheoHiggins 9 лет назад +102

    HOLD IT!
    Ellen Page and David Cage RHYME!!!!

    • @Sensitiveskeptic
      @Sensitiveskeptic 6 лет назад +2

      Theo Higgins the stars must have been aligned

    • @mikfhan
      @mikfhan 6 лет назад +2

      They surely did, at least according to the "Ellen Page David Cage Rage Gauge".
      Marvelous sentence by Yahtzee; I could have died of old age without ever hearing that!

  • @srbrant5391
    @srbrant5391 4 года назад +2

    Someone please tell Cage that his Page fixation is _incredibly creepy._

  • @subtlewhatssubtle
    @subtlewhatssubtle 6 лет назад +10

    I just realized that this game is just about Ellen Page being a really uninteresting Stand user, so apparently David Cage was ripping off Hirohiko Araki too.

  • @TriadST1
    @TriadST1 11 лет назад +13

    I just discovered the Zero Punctuation series and I love them. I would greatly like to see you review Battlefield 4. Not because it is good, bad, or ugly, but because every (and I do mean EVERY) one of your videos I have watched this morning begins and ends with a Battlefield 4 commercial and I have an uninterrupted flow of constant despise for it at this point. There is such a thing as over-saturation EA Marketing department.

    • @SGTAlchemy95
      @SGTAlchemy95 11 лет назад +3

      i feel the same with CoD man (not accusing you of being a fan) but every video i click on a commercial of CoD comes up, mostly that one where 4 dudes drive a car (that you cant really do in a game) and do other stuff (you cant do in the game) and its like shoving it in my face saying "HEY LOOK HOW FUCKING AMAZING WE ARE"

    • @mittensbro
      @mittensbro 11 лет назад +2

      Cody Durden It sure can, as long as you won't feel guilty about taking away Yahtzee's ad revenue.

    • @OdaSwifteye
      @OdaSwifteye 10 лет назад

      You just discovered him? Well let me tell you. Didn't he review that game already? I could have sworn he did. It's on the escapist website where you can see his reviews as they are released by the way. Also I totally know what his comment on it would be.
      He hates it. He's really tired of shooters.

    • @TriadST1
      @TriadST1 10 лет назад

      Oda Swifteye Pretty sure he hasn't yet and yeah, that was the joke. I wanted him to tear it up for making me watch it over and over and over.

    • @OdaSwifteye
      @OdaSwifteye 10 лет назад

      JumbieManJay Well how long has it been out? Yahtzee really only reviews recent games and even then when they've come out it's a couple of weeks before his home area Australia gets it.
      I dunno. I hear more apathy than anything amusing I mean has battlefield done anything interesting to mock? He hasn't reviewed Battlefield your right he did Ghosts recently which had it's baffling campaign to make fun of.

  • @SoundChad
    @SoundChad 10 лет назад +9

    "Despite Ellen Page I am still just a rat in a cage." Possibly the funniest thing I've ever heard.

  • @prop0042
    @prop0042 10 лет назад +1

    "No, that's ASSHOLES!" was probably one of the best quotes from yahtzee.

  • @loganrandall780
    @loganrandall780 6 лет назад +6

    "Despite Ellen Page, I'm still just a rat in a cage" fucking love it 😂😂😂😂

  • @pizz4639
    @pizz4639 10 лет назад +4

    The Smashing Pumpkins reference really puts the cherry on top of this review

  • @lfanroy4137
    @lfanroy4137 11 лет назад +19

    David Cage
    I support exploring storytelling in games, but that's not what this is.
    This (unambitiosly) explores (minimal) interactivity in a (bland, unsequenced) story.
    It's like he wants to make a movie that intimately connects you to the protagonist.
    Better writing and a medium choice would help. This is neither a game or a movie. But it is bad.

  • @toasterchild498
    @toasterchild498 7 лет назад +2

    That Smashing Pumpkins joke was one of the funniest I've seen in Yahtzee's videos so far.

  • @nis5e
    @nis5e 2 года назад +14

    The visual gag at 01:38 has a little more to it in the post-Elliot Page world.

  • @mafiacat88
    @mafiacat88 10 лет назад +15

    The problem is is that i actually really like this sort of game, but david cage is the only person who seems to make them. ( and telltale, but still.) and i just wished there would be more games like this.

    • @tricksterhuaun
      @tricksterhuaun 10 лет назад +20

      Hey man, c'mon, at least telltale makes the good ones, better have some goods than only Cage Bullshit bad!

    • @wellguesswhatIthink
      @wellguesswhatIthink 10 лет назад +6

      Can't you just hold a controller while watching any movie, pretending the characters are controlled by you? Also, buy the Yakuza series, it's story-focused as all hell

    • @mafiacat88
      @mafiacat88 10 лет назад

      Semyon Galtsev I do love books. I have tons of books and I am always trying to find new books to read, in fact i love books so much I have gone through about a quarter of the fiction section of the library ( although it's not a really big library) and have hundreds of books myself. I just like these games because its different and interesting as well as being a really cool storytelling device.

    • @Trusseck
      @Trusseck 10 лет назад

      Semyon Galtsev I'm trying to give you a million likes, but this silly website won't let me!

    • @Trusseck
      @Trusseck 10 лет назад

      Semyon Galtsev Dear Mr. Galtsev, how do I love you? Let me count the ways...

  • @manheap12
    @manheap12 7 лет назад

    "Mummy's little insurgent" fucking hilarious

  • @logangraham3689
    @logangraham3689 11 лет назад +3

    The Walking Dead and The Wolf Among Us are like this, but everyone loves it.

    • @josan14basket
      @josan14basket 11 лет назад +5

      That's just because they are good.

    • @DaLatinKnight
      @DaLatinKnight 11 лет назад

      josan14basket
      More likable is how I would word it

    • @BunkerAnon
      @BunkerAnon 11 лет назад +2

      josan14basket
      Yep they have good writing and sympathetic characters that travel along a story LINE. Not pogo back and forth between events because Cage couldn't be bothered to make it coherent connected story.

    • @DestoroyZilla
      @DestoroyZilla 11 лет назад

      Well, you see, Beyond: Two Souls is an interactive movie, not a point & click game. There's a difference, right?

  • @BJWeNeedUDefendingUsWithZeMG42
    @BJWeNeedUDefendingUsWithZeMG42 3 года назад +25

    Despite Elliot Page, I'm still just David Cage.

  • @schradeya
    @schradeya 10 лет назад +8

    GAH I agree SO HARD with the bit about watching a movie and just pressing pause. QD games, while interesting, are just not at all for me. I've always likened their interactivity to watching a movie that randomly stops and prompts you to press the correct sequence of buttons on the remote to get it playing again. It's like trying to watch a movie that keeps getting interrupted. Sure, some choices have consequences, but there's no chance I could ever go back through the tedium to try again. I'd rather just watch, so thank you Pewds!
    I totally get what they're doing: trying to make video games legit 'art' and extremely immersive, but they remove the most important aspect: the 'game' part. I don't find it fun or enjoyable to walk around an apartment picking up trash and putting away laundry in a game, but that's what they offer to make you feel like you are the character. I don't need to make the character go pee to relate to her, just like not washing her dishes doesn't detract from that relationship. QD haven't yet found the right balance between playing a game and watching a movie, so unfortunately the majority of the bits you do control are very tedious tasks - exactly the kind of thing you play video games to escape - while any real action is just quicktime prompts where you don't actually decide which actions to take, you're just pressing buttons to prevent it from stopping.
    Maybe, instead of the sparse token button presses, they should just make movies where, occasionally, it could ask the viewer to make a major story-related choice, then continue with that story so you can put the controller down and watch. Like choose your own adventure movies without the disruptive "gameplay" aspects of walking, jumping over a log, and washing your face... I'd probably really enjoy that.

    • @rustygear447
      @rustygear447 10 лет назад

      lol the kinda game u talk about in paragraph 3 is a genre called visual novel, and i agree with u completely.

    • @schradeya
      @schradeya 10 лет назад +1

      Seyha Leonhartz
      Ahhhh, I KNEW there should be a proper name for that. Thank you! Do you know of any good ones that are out there?

    • @rustygear447
      @rustygear447 10 лет назад

      schradeya
      Let me clarify first. You mostly read a visual novel rather than play or watch it. It's mainly just text accompanied by some voice acting, and background picture. So you'll be disappointed if you expect movie quality like this game lol. And another thing is it's mostly a love story and contain *cough* adult content *cough*. So know what you're getting yourself into.
      I've only played 2 VNs. Snow Sakura, and (a rather mind fucked one) Song of Saya. If you never watch Clannad the anime maybe you could try the VNs. I can't say if they are good or not since it depends on individual's taste so try them and decide for yourself.

    • @schradeya
      @schradeya 10 лет назад

      Seyha Leonhartz
      Oh hey okay! So something like Dangan Ronpa and a lot of those JRPGs might be considered visual novels?
      And thank you! You're awesome and extremely helpful!

    • @rustygear447
      @rustygear447 10 лет назад

      Never heard of Dangan Ronpa but a quick google says that yes it is a visual novel. I don't know what you mean by those JRPGs though. JRPG is a genre of its own. Something like Final Fantasy series, Legend of Zelda, or Suikoden are JRPGs and they are very different from visual novels.
      You're welcome :D

  • @voldlifilm
    @voldlifilm 11 лет назад +2

    Arse holes is your best joke ever as far as I'm concerned. Well done!

  • @mushythezombehkiller
    @mushythezombehkiller 10 лет назад +4

    He has Jarate 0:38.

  • @EldritchAugur
    @EldritchAugur 10 лет назад +2

    Yahtzee made a smashing Pumpkins joke, nice!

  • @rotolotto
    @rotolotto 11 лет назад +3

    I fucking loved this game, and you know what- I fucking loved this video too. THOSE PAGE PUNS

  • @5Chaor
    @5Chaor 10 лет назад +4

    Let see what a good example of a narrative base game that doesnt suck......
    ASURA'S WRATH

  • @theghostnextdoor4948
    @theghostnextdoor4948 11 лет назад

    I love the analogies this guy uses; they're just so random, but also make the point really well.

  • @dannyfitzgerald6523
    @dannyfitzgerald6523 11 лет назад +20

    This is not a game by any means, it is a interactive story and for 60 dollars (can.) It is not worth it. Any tension in this interactive story is quickly removed by jumping back and forth in the time line it would have been better if the story was linear. I didn't finish the game to be honest I got to homeless Ellen page segment and said fuck this. The leaps in logic and the stupidity of people in this is astounding and I have the feeling none of your decisions actually matter, while there is no "game overs" there are plenty of infinite loops.

    • @ProfessionalSlacker1
      @ProfessionalSlacker1 11 лет назад +1

      It would be more cohesive it was linear, but it may actually be worse to do so. A lot of the scenes early seem to have a similar arc to them and ultimately lead nowhere. If the game was linear, the first half would just be watching Ellen Page being abused and exploited, while the second half would suddenly turn into some hackneyed CIA-Ghost plot that has nothing to do with the first half. With the scenes inter-cut, it at least gives some illusion that all of these scenes are from the same game.

  • @samdiego1965
    @samdiego1965 8 лет назад +5

    Let's hope Detroit is better. I wonder what he's gonna think of it. I look forward to watching that one

    • @EpicMrbilly
      @EpicMrbilly 8 лет назад +8

      I hope Detroit has more "voice actor repeats 3 lines and we use those same 3 lines over and over in a tone that makes the character sound 2 miles away from the screen" moments, like Ethan yelling 'SHAAAUUUN!' in Heavy Rain.

    • @The2econd3vil3xes
      @The2econd3vil3xes 8 лет назад +15

      "Let's hope Detroit is better." As someone from Detroit, I can guarantee this wish will not be fulfilled.
      Oh wait you meant the game, my bad.

    • @muskatDR
      @muskatDR 8 лет назад +8

      Im guessing itll go as well as the city detroit

  • @KrayonGames
    @KrayonGames 10 лет назад +7

    I haven't played the game, but I have the soundtrack on my ipod, and god damn it is rather splendid :D

  • @Tatti12321
    @Tatti12321 9 лет назад +1

    "Four souls, dare we dream?" Gets me every time.

  • @disturbedrocks1996
    @disturbedrocks1996 7 лет назад +3

    to use a line Yahtzee said in his Star Wars Force Unleashed review: "David Cage doesn't write so much as vomiting with a pen"

  • @Jaceblue04
    @Jaceblue04 10 лет назад +5

    From Software. They're the guys who made Armored Core, one of my favorite PS1 games

    • @windywave7271
      @windywave7271 10 лет назад +3

      I prefer the third game for the PS2 as It introduced me to the series, but still, great games nonetheless.

    • @Jaceblue04
      @Jaceblue04 10 лет назад +2

      windy wave Yup

    • @elinfini
      @elinfini 5 лет назад +1

      And don't forget Evergrace for PS2!

  • @PlanetToasti
    @PlanetToasti 10 лет назад +27

    I feel like I'm the only person who liked this game ;-;

    • @bobdudder4841
      @bobdudder4841 10 лет назад

      ***** the game just barley passed one million sales.

    • @bobdudder4841
      @bobdudder4841 10 лет назад

      ***** happy

    • @AzureShadow88
      @AzureShadow88 10 лет назад +1

      I was very sad i didnt get to play it myself since i dont have a PS, I did watch a youtube playthrough and it seemed a lot of fun to me.

    • @JonMalbrough
      @JonMalbrough 10 лет назад +2

      I enjoyed it, The parts that were good were reeeeaaally good, but the bad parts were awful

    • @bongus796
      @bongus796 9 лет назад

      ***** "in every job that's to be done, there's an element of FUN."- i feel like some video game creators are doing a Mary Poppins and saying that fun can be part of everything, it can but it shouldn't be a part of everything. In fact most video games are everything but fun

  • @FlintDragoon
    @FlintDragoon 11 лет назад

    Indigo Prophecy aka Fahrenheit pretty much does the same thing with the minor exception as to try and alter the books pages for example if you got a choice on page 3 that said"clean up the blood skip to page 12" or "run out of the kitchen diner there is no time skip to page 34" and each decision leads to different outcomes. in a slight way.

  • @kallendracovitch238
    @kallendracovitch238 11 лет назад +5

    Ya know Yahtzee, I have watched your shows for a long time and I have never wanted to suggest a game for you to look over until now. I truly do want to hear your opinion on Kerbal Space Program. I already have mine of which I will keep to myself but I want to watch your opinion.

  • @InfraredScale
    @InfraredScale 4 года назад +1

    Fun Fact: I never knew that the game was actually called "Beyond: Two Souls" until this video, never noticed the ":"

  • @vaderprime923
    @vaderprime923 9 лет назад +9

    I remember when this game came out and my roommate at the time was swooning over the interactive story hype and the motion capture of two big name hollywood actors and I watched him play it for the first few hours before I turned to him and told him frankly it was the worst game I had ever seen, to which he tried to defend it so as to make it seem like it wasn't a waste of money but he never played it again because he knew I was right

    • @First-Last_name
      @First-Last_name Год назад

      David cage games are best watched on RUclips, spares you the lame quick time stuff

  • @alldayagain
    @alldayagain 6 лет назад +2

    I know this is old, but here's a little fact about the trend of "Homeless Heroes" in these trashfire games. The reason for all prople in poverty being amazing and talented is because when David Cage was younger, he passed a homeless woman on the street and felt guilty about not being able to give her any money

  • @azzameentv
    @azzameentv 10 лет назад +157

    To be honest, I'd rather have 10 more Beyond: Two Souls-esque "interactive movies" than 1 more AAA generic Military FPS franchise.

    • @azzameentv
      @azzameentv 9 лет назад +10

      At the end of the day, at least Cage (with his writing style) is attempting to improve gaming for the better. How often do we see AAA games using the same gameplay mechanics as others. And then when a game doesn't use those mechanics, everyone gets pissy because it's not what they're used to.
      Like I said, I'd rather we follow the path of diversity in gaming, than getting stuck in the current generation of "It's like Game A, but with this from Game B."

    • @Lookin4aBoxToLive
      @Lookin4aBoxToLive 9 лет назад +5

      Aaron Brudenell
      The fact that triple a games get so much more coverage doesn't mean there aren't different games out there. If the only type of games you see are generic fps and nothing more, then I think you need to look around more. Specifically on Steam an indie sites.
      Also, Beyond Two Souls is literally like Space Ace with a little of the wandering around and looking for prompts from every adeventure game ever, so yeah...

    • @azzameentv
      @azzameentv 9 лет назад +1

      Lookin4aBoxToLive Oh no, I play plenty of indie games, so much so, that I only really purchase them nowadays.

    • @urbaraskpraetor3316
      @urbaraskpraetor3316 9 лет назад +5

      Aaron Brudenell beyond two souls didn't have diverse gameplay though. It was basically trying to tell an interesting story, and failed. Its like watching a bad movie that requires fiddling with the remote to continue playing. While Spunkgargleweewee my have shit story and just copy pasted mechanics from game to game, the mechanics they have are good, as they were ripped straight from Halo 2. It's why the multiplayer mode is so popular.

    • @Armendicus
      @Armendicus 9 лет назад

      no

  • @samuellacey5166
    @samuellacey5166 9 лет назад +7

    Hey, stop hating. Beyond: Two Souls was a great movie.

  • @TheBellman
    @TheBellman 11 лет назад

    The thing is, is that HL2 had PERFECT facial animation closing on ten years ago.
    Yet again, innovation is catching up to Valve.

  • @LOTM_71
    @LOTM_71 10 лет назад +5

    the story only changes if you fuck up quick time events, and even then to little amounts. Honestly I would have loved this game if I wasn't reminded it cost me $100 in Australia.

    • @SinerAthin
      @SinerAthin 10 лет назад +9

      Australia is what you'd call a non-violent totalitarian regime, AKA "Nanny State" xD

    • @LOTM_71
      @LOTM_71 10 лет назад +1

      SinerAthin I know right, our rating system is full of shit.

  • @NinjaDeviant
    @NinjaDeviant 10 лет назад

    I needed this criticism to be made, this video was much needed.

  • @lili-yasmeann
    @lili-yasmeann 9 лет назад +5

    'Ellen Page I am still just a rat in a cage' XD the smashing pumpkins?

  • @darrenleeds2524
    @darrenleeds2524 8 лет назад +2

    The Ellen Paige David Cage Rage Gauge

  • @SeanKL107
    @SeanKL107 6 лет назад +4

    I always thought it was as in “more than two souls”

  • @paulrippcord506
    @paulrippcord506 11 лет назад

    I rented this, the camera is literally your worse enemy. This could have so much cooler; you have a girl with a killer ghost that can do stuff. The Darkness got that concept right, plus in that game there were genuine human emotions.

  • @biscuitomcbiscuito2423
    @biscuitomcbiscuito2423 11 лет назад +26

    I like the game,
    But maybe that's just because I didn't put too much thought into the storyline. I do wish that Aiden was used more. I think that the devs made him too OP and didn't want to use him too much, since that would make the game shorter.
    Really, all he would really have to do would be do the 'Shield' thing and then let Jodie run around and try to figure out what to do. In spite of him being lazy, I still cried when the game made you think that Jodie and Aiden were separated, and made in-human noises when "Still here" appeared in the sand, but that's just me.

    • @SigmaSyndicate
      @SigmaSyndicate 10 лет назад +39

      I find it odd that one would play this type of game for reasons other than the plot. I mean, if not for the (atrocious) storyline, what else is there? Quick time events and awkward rape scenes.

  • @narutorasbat
    @narutorasbat 11 лет назад

    He already talked about it on his "Extra Punctuation" column on the escapist website

  • @thehoodedteddy1335
    @thehoodedteddy1335 6 лет назад +5

    If you want a good story about a girl with a ghost that kills people she doesn’t like, read Jojo part 6

  • @GameGuyTy
    @GameGuyTy 10 лет назад

    That Bullet with Butterfly Wings reference though..... LMAO

  • @OJHgaming
    @OJHgaming 11 лет назад +4

    Could you guys do one on Dragon Quest? I was just wondering, since DQ9 is probably my favourite RPG game, especially because of the multiplayer mode :D

  • @muskatDR
    @muskatDR 7 лет назад

    "By watching every normal film and pressing the pause button every two seconds"
    Why stop there? "And sometimes you can skip to the next scene and an entirely different location with no idea or explanation how the character got there"

  • @ArcaneAzmadi
    @ArcaneAzmadi 6 лет назад +3

    Surprisingly, nobody in the comment field seems to have pointed out that Yahtzee made so many jokes about Ellen Page dreaming about hunky boys, only for Page to have come out as a lesbian since this game's release, meaning the only real use she has for hunky boys is to hold up her bookshelves until the glue dries.

    • @ArcaneAzmadi
      @ArcaneAzmadi 3 года назад

      Even more hilarious: turns out that, rather than a lesbian woman, _Elliot_ Page is actually a straight transman, meaning he has even _less_ use for hunky boys. Although it does make the gag at 1:38 about the Jodie Holmes resting her gonads on the furniture funnier still, as well as bit where Yahtzee said she looked like a 15 year old boy.