Apple's Failed Touchscreen Laptop From 1997
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
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It's been over 2 decades since Apple released the eMate - a half laptop, half PDA... thing. And it didn't even last a year before being discontinued along with the entire Newton product line. So today, we're gonna travel back to 1997 to see just how bad (or good?) this thing was!
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Goodness! I used Newtons for over a decade--until I cracked the screen on my 2100, and decided to move to Palms in 2006. You have so only just barely scratched the surface of the NewtonOS! It will/would dial without a modem, if you held the mouthpiece of a standard landline to the speaker, it'd dial the tones for you. Also, you could write the phone number out somewhere, highlight it, and press "Assist" and chose "Dial". (or write "call [phone number]) The Assist was a pseudo-AI assistant, which you could do a lot with--like schedule appointments, add contacts, etc. Spend some time in the help section of your Newton.
Oh, and I don't think it works on the eMate, but in older Newtons, if you wrote "Egg freckles" and hit assist, it'd display a screen shot of the Doonsbury cartoon. Another easter egg, that existed will after the demise of the Newton in the Mac OS, was if you wrote "Rosetta! Rosetta! Rosetta!" it's change the third Rosetta into something else. Well, that's enough of an info dump.
Awesome stuff
They can even use WiFi cards!
@@pseudotasuki Some models.
"Rosetta! Rosetta! Hey, that's me!" iirc
Egg Freckles only works on NOS1.x, but there is a package on UNNA that restores it
You can also go into the calendar and bring up the about dialog (iirc), and tap the corners to reveal the names of the developers who worked on it
"Between Jobs" OMG I lost it... I love it.
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@@TheSlimeKilling_Minecart i think so yeah
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I’m broke
who gives a damn
$799?? You can't even buy a PS5 Pro with a disc drive for that sort of money!
Ain't a disc drive less than 100$?
@@TheSlimeKilling_Minecart yeah but it has to be mated with the MOBO IIRC maybe it allows the slide-in thing somy made for 70 or 80 bucks
LMAO
@@tezcanaslan2877 No no it's that customized bezel it quadruples the price of the internal component! wink wink
@@TheSlimeKilling_Minecart you kinda need the stand to stop it falling over easy
The "between Jobs" era of Apple was confused, misguided, janky, experimental and yet technically amazing. No wonder the products of that era were commercially unsuccessful but loved by nerds and hackers, both contemporary and modern day ones. How can you not love cross-architecture CPU upgrades for example?
Everyone here is a potato
Probably the most extreme area of Apple fans who were so snobby about the platform and software used on it. I wanted to be one but didn’t jump on till OSX was released.
@@Lynxdoc I never saw any snobbiness. But I am in England. 😉
@@RWBHere well notice I didn’t word it as an insult. I admired it!
I can only imagine the amount of gorilla arm you'd get from writing on that thing with the stylus
Always happy to see you in the wild!
18:59 That sly DankPods reference
he's talking about Psivewri of course
@@lvl90dru1dTbh it could be either. They both review janky old stuff.
I have many fond memories of this thing. My dad got one for me when I was a kid for dirt cheap from a local school selling its old electronics stock. I didn’t have access to a real computer outside of school but I spent hours drawing stuff and taking notes and the like. I still have it today and it works great almost 30 years later or so. Super happy to see a video on this weird little laptop finally! Thanks for the nostalgia blast.
When I was in the 6th grade our school had several of these, mainly used by the special ed department, to help various kids with writing projects, because it was portable and could be taken back and forth between their regular class and special ed room.
i like the 'poof' animation, it actually looks really similar to the one in OS X when you remove something from the dock.
also that "now is the time" sentence is part of a typing exercise.
and when a boot drive is removed in the boot menu on most macs
I love how intuitive and consistent the UI is across all applications.. That was one thing Apple did so well back then..
send this to Dankpods IMMINENTLY
WE'RE BUSTIN OUT THE EEEMAAEETEEE
Let’s make a petition!!
just commented about this video on dankpod’s community post
@@Daisy_MayLemon-IceCubePenny Yeah man, saw your comment, TBH it straight up looks like spam lol.
@@HarrHarrHarrify ok whatever
“Eat up Michael”
No, I don't want to eat up Michael.
Memo @Apple: Next time you design a product, don't make it scrotum- or butt-shaped.
I saw it more ... chest shaped.
1997 I had a contract to build 18 Avid off-line editing systems, we actually thought the writing was on the wall for Apple and I ended up buying HP’s instead of 9600’s. 2005 now, all the HP’s retired and was still putting together 9600’s for Avid and Pro Tools systems… 😂
21:58 Excuse me that says "Broadchasing system" that's totally different
Thanks for the trip down the memory lane Michael. I used my MP2100 and eMate quite heavily until around 2013. In which year I just ported Bad Apple to it and then put it down on the shelf for a while. Drop me a line if you need any info around this!
Some more hints around using NewronOS:
* To select an item, long press the stylus in one spot. It will make a creepy squeak sound and the pen mark will turn into ink splatter. Then you have either selected what was under your pen by then, or you can outline an area if you want to select multiple things.
* To cut a selection, hold down the pen on it and then drag it to the very left/right edge of the screen. It will stick there with a clunk.
* To copy a selection, tap then hold then drag.
* To paste, drag the thing stuck to the edge of the screen into the document where you wanna place it.
* To paste but keep a copy in the clip board, tap then drag. Crazy how intuitive it gets once you get used to it, right? :-)
* If the handwriting added a space where it isn't needed, connect the letters with a U shaped stroke under the line. If it missed a space where not needed, draw a vertical line between the respective letters.
* Don't use cursive on the eMate, unlike the Messagepads, it only can recognize print letters.
* To change the homescreen to any other app you want, highlight it in the Extras (the "home screen" of this video) and then press the Mail icon → select "Make Backdrop". Most often the Notes would be the homescreen by default, but I prefer to use Avi's Backdrop :P
* We also have a mailing list called NewtonTalk for Newt users, as well as a discord. Not sure if I can post the invite for the latter in public, as you know how those things end up going, but happy to send it in private if need be!
Can I call Amy's Baking Company from this device?
Always a good day when Micheal posts a video.
yeah
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I own a MessagePad 2000. The Emate 300 uses the same OS and apps with the exception of the classroom stuff. The PCMCIA slot only uses proprietary cards that work only for these devices. But there is a driver in the internet that allows you to use CF cards using a CF Card adapter. The problems is that you must install the application on the Mac and have the proprietary cable to connect both systems to install/upload apps to the Emate. There is no way to upload apps through IRDA or putting the PCMCIA card on a PC/MAC with apps or drivers and transfer them. So your only way to upload/install apps is through a MAC or old PC running Windows 98/XP (I was able to run the windows app on Windows 10 but works weirdly and crashes at times.) with a serial port or use a USB to Serial adapter and proprietary cable for the Emate. The port that looks like an HDMI uses an adapter to then connect the special cable which comes with those units. I was able to find wifi drivers for my unit to use a wifi pcmcia card, but must use wifi cards that are compatible. Looking forward to the follow up. Cheers.
Apple Newton:"Eat up Martha"... Batman: "Why did you say that name!!!!!"
The curve, the handle and the name tag on the bottom makes this look like the most expensive v-tech kids toy laptop.
"The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" sentence uses every key on the keyboard. It's a quick and dirty keyboard test.
Yeah, but it wasn't written correctly so it missed the s key. Writing "jumped" instead of "jumps" is a common mistake.
"The five boxing wizards jump quickly" is shorter
@@PuffyRainbowCloud It also said "lazy *red* dog" for some reason.
@@natalieeuley1734 Huh, I've never heard of that one before.
Where is C tho?
Does it have an ARM processor? I think the Newton PDA was the start of Apple's relationship with ARM, so basically a predecessor to Apple's A- and M-chips.
Yes some Arm 710a cpu
28 years later and apple still hasn't changed how text gets erased with a stylus
If that was a test document why was there a spelling error? "broadchasing system" haha 21:58
He mentally corrected it when he spoke too lol
I had a MP 130 in the early 2000's, and LOVED it. The interface was very elegant, the help system very comprehensive, and the whimsical touches (like the puffs of smoke and the wastebasket) made it fun to use. I had a PCMCIA modem, and used mine for Address Book, Calendar, Notes, Chess, reading e-books and email. Even in the modern days of Android and iOS, I still miss it.
"eMate" sounds quite nice :)
same!
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Ironic this it's on a very unfriendly system like the Newton.
EeePeeCee 2: the apple strikes vack
A reference to the 1967 song Alice's Restaurant in 1997, rediscovered in 2024, *almost* as far removed from the release of this device as the release of the device was from the release of the song. I feel old now.
You didn't get the dialling part right. The trick with the Newtons is that you have to store a phone number, press the dial button, and you have to put the microphone part of the phone near the Netwton's speaker in order to dial by sound. Which was pretty cool.
Apple would never…or at least that’s what I thought.
I have one in my attic that I bought from a thrift store about 22 years ago. Sadly never worked, but I hate the idea of tossing it.
18:59
"Huh i know there's some that lives there RUclipsr i think"
A touchscreen laptop from the 90's? Hell yeah!
I like how similar this device is to modern iPads to some regard.
Good show. The eMate was an inexpensive, crippled version of the Newton MessagePad for kids that qualified for Apple’s educational discount. The eMate was shown to educators but there was little interest. When Apple released the eMate to stores, Apple had a big problems with their retail sales strategy. It was common to see non-working or damaged demo products with no sales help.
fun little units. if you haven't already, be sure to open it up and secure screen's ribbon cable to the chassis. they have a nasty habit of worming their way into the hinge spring and tearing.
16:47 "British liquid"
Ah yes, to convert water to tea
I had one of those at secondary school to help me and it was in classroom mode and i did carry around. It was funded by the school and it was very helpful to me. It was my first computer to same degree. Yes i had it from 1998 to 2000, I loved it. So watching this video was very interesting and i remember using most of those apps at school.
I can't wait to join your membership! I have been watching you for a while now and your content is really cool! Good job!!!
absolutely amazing.
yeah!
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This is the 90s equivalent of an iPad Pro with keyboard and pencil
The Courier web browser on that Newton was copyright 2003. So someone added it to the device.
I remember the Newton, but only ever saw one PDA, and never this one. Thanks for the review.
Glad that you found a working power adaptor! Me and Danny did not have any 3Com 589d cards on hand either, so I am for connecting to the internet and seeing how it handles!
The PC is neat, although I would have wished you dialed up the brightness a notch; even at full brightness it was hard for me to see the screen 😅
This is definitely a look at 90's PDA's and basic mobile "computer" devices of the era. Not much you could do with them, just some basic note taking and contact listing sort of stuff. Kinda funny how people thought this was really high tech and useful back then, but I guess it was a new concept.
Mjd randomly picking my town at 18:56 is great lmao
14:18 Walk right in its around the back, just half a mile from the railroad track 😂
Funny that the Newton had a built in calculator, but the iiPad does not.🤣
I used one of these in 5th grade to take notes.
Imagine watching RUclips on the eMate. That would be an interesting experience.
Takes me back to second grade! I remember I did that (7:42) by accident but my dad was/is technologically inclined so I was able to return the eMate to my teacher with the screen back in landscape orientation 😂
"So this right here is not your average Apple laptop. In fact, calling it a 'laptop' isn't entirely accurate because..." it's the 'Chromebook' before the "Chrome" book that mistakenly took over the market.
Beware of the hinge issue with this one. A spring will eventually pop out during opening/closing and tear apart the LCD cable. If yours is not treated yet, take it apart right here and now and put some washers on the thing
18:58 DANKPODS!
Theres a lot of RUclipsrs that live in Adelaide, but I’d like to think MJD is talking about Wade!
Yes, I would like to see more of this Bewton.
10:15 that thang got better hand recognition than ma iPad 5th gen has with a apple pencil :o
I saw the thumbnail and thought "No, Thats E-SEGGS"
I swear to god I remember seeing these at school during the early to mid 2000's lol. It was like one day the teacher brought them in the class and gave everyone a crash course to how to type on a keyboard. I also remember a teacher giving one of these to a classmate to write his notes with because his handwriting was incredibly terrible and no one could read it so he had to type out his notes instead and give it to the teacher that way.
These were a staple in Aussie classrooms and were exciting to use back then
I deliver hydrogen in trailers just like that one… gotta keep an eye on your pressure gauges and always check your valve alignment. There’s a gauge you can see in your driver’s side mirror while on the road.
Oh man, now I've got "Alice's Restaurant" stuck in my head
05:04 the magsafe technology before it was cool (?)
The special needs children at my middle school, circa 2008, had these for class use/typing.
Guys wake up Michael posted!
Damn there was no dentist explosions or celery overcoats.
Or the action hero Cliff Excellent.
Oh yeah, my favourite device which I badly want in my collection, on one of the my favourite retro-tech channels
THERE WE GO
its hunting me ...
I’m surprised it didn’t have a dial up modem. What I would have given to have a device in 2000 that had such an interface. Let alone 1997. That would have been magic.
I’ve got two of these. One of them still works. It was a great idea but should have been cheaper.
18:59 Dankpods!
Basically a PDA shoehorned into a laptop-style form factor ‒ interesting.
I actually used some of these in my freshman year of high school, and then they were all promptly discarded for iMac laptops instead.
22:05 The emergency broadchasing system ... who are they chasing???
I kind of think of the eMate as the "public beta" for the iBook. It's got the translucent plastic, the multiple colors, it's got the handle, it was marketed heavily to schools and students... It's just a shame the iBook wasn't more eMate sized. For a laptop with a 12 inch screen, it's big and heavy and that's a shame. It'll always be my favorite, but I think a slightly smaller model with a 10 inch screen might have been a fun idea for Apple to explore at the time if they weren't so concerned with cutting down their lineup...
Functionally I guess what I'm looking for is either a PowerBook Duo or the redesigned 12" iBook or PowerBook but none of those will ever be as aesthetically pleasing to me. :P
Dimming your room studio lighting would’ve been helpful
Apple has refused to make a touch screen laptop. They want to keep laptop and tablet a separate product. With Windows laptops, you have touch screens and 2-in-1 to choose from, you don't have the option on the Mac side
The ARM processor used in this and the Newton gave Apple the experience to build the iPod, iPhone, iPad and ultimately, the M1 series of processors (custom ARM based) used in the laptop and desktop products.
Love your content!
Please set up some lighting so we can see the dim screens on some devices devices.
Yes, the screaming Aussie man lives there! Aka Dank Pods and Garbade Time! Aka Wade!
this video made me realize our tv's color balance was messed up. it straight up looks blue there but looks more green on my phone lol
I love this kind of videos keep it up Michael :)
if MJD and Bringus were brother, i honestly wouldnt know whos the older brother
I was completely unable to determine the size of this device until a floppy disk was used as comparison. This man gets me.
My school used these to teach us keyboard typing on, they would put felt on top of our hands so we couldn't see the keyboard. Only time I got to use one of those devices, but very neat and quirky.
Follow-up video please - would love to know what typing experience is on one of these (key feel, etc.) after you've had some time to use it for a while
I'm sure we had these in high school - which would have been around 1999 to 2000
I had a roommate in college who actually had one of these. And yeah, it was such a fascinating gadget to play around with. So ahead of its time in so many ways. But when you could buy a real laptop for $800, it must have struggled to find a market. And not many people were heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem in the late 90s.
Apple could release this now and the drones would love it.
It looks like a Alpha Smart, A device i used in middle school (around 2002-2005)
I was a teen when this came out and in college when the palm pilot was hitting hard, I dabbled with them but never really found a use. Especially for the price of the e-mate, you could have a full blown laptop from last gen for half the price and actually run useful programs on it ... add in suspend and hibernate and don't dick around too much a couple year old PC or Mac (from the time of this things release) would last all day in a college or biz situation
that display is very readable for an old LCD with an EL backlight it would probably be awesome
That's one dim backlight
Man. It's so primitive and basic compared to even later PDAs, but I love the charm in the Newton OS. The little "poof" animation when you scribbled out a word was delightful!
I have used an eMate before and I actually was surprised at how good the handwriting recognition was. I had heard all the jokes but didn't have a bad experience. Also, the Newton OS is limited but oozes charm.
"Between Jobs" is the only good apple time
This reminds me of the Ericsson MC16. And old Windows CE stuff in general
Windows CE was truly an era to be in. PDAs were like the smartphones of today, but chunkier.
yeah it does
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>Newton
I still remember that Simpsons joke.
Can you make a sort of "react" to the knowledge navigator video from the 80's from Apple? 😊😊