FUN FACT: Lord Ao, who is literally the god of godhood and who keeps the other gods in line, reports to an entity known as the "Being of Light," which is heavily implied to be the DM
@@Epicmonk117 yea when I looked into wiki of ao it said "serves luminious entity" in I think 1e section Then thet retconed to say ao doesn't serve anyone
Actually, Ao serves a Luminous Being which could be interpreted as the DM. Although at some point it was said that Ao serves noone so that may have been retconned.
My (demigod) dragonborn believes that if she eats the followers of other gods, she'll become stronger. I don't know how she's still alive. Much less has a following. She's known as a "Goddess of Harvest and Hunt" in a rather peaceful pantheon. ... My DM has a wicked sense of humor, and I think is slowly trying to push her to insanity. Which is working! -_-
@@Paerigos well, using Karsus's Avatar on actual godess of magik... or probably any of greatest powers... that's an insane risk. Using it on lesse deity or on a member of a small pantheon, however...
One of my favorite gods in DND is the goblinoid God of Conquest, the one God who rules over all of the Goblin races. Because he was aware of the more followers he had, the stronger he was, so he found three different pantheons from similar races, and then killed and or conquered all of them so that he would have three races worth of followers to make him exceedingly powerful. On top of that he made sure each race was practically bound to him and his will, making sure the Goblins all feared him for their life, making sure hobgoblin Falls in with an extreme sense of Duty, and making sure that the bugbear saw him as an exceedingly close friend of their God. All of this combined makes them an exceedingly strong force, one that gives that god tons of power to rival the gods that span Empires
One thing that is mentioned in VGtM (Orc section), and often not talked about much elsewhere is the Outer Planar War between Orcs and Goblinoids. The next target Maglubiyet has focused on are Orcs, and so for many centuries a war on Acheron has been taking place between the two groups. If he succeeds, imagine the amount of power he will gain!
@Lamodrick Foster only in 4e, which makes no sense since Maggy is a greater deity, just like Bane, and is worshipped across multiple crystal spheres while Bane is only constrained to Realmspace. Hell, Maggy also has a bunch of deities reporting to him - he's the chief of the entire goblin pantheon.
The Immortal's Handbook actualy has stats for the DM. "The supreme being is the most powerful being in existence, known to some as the great architect of the universe. Although the current holder of the title may not correspond to the original creator of all things. The supreme being is the dominant consciousness shaping the omniverse from beyond the great wall. Figures from mythology who could be considered supreme beings would include: Logos (the word: “in the beginning was the word, and the word was GOD”). While Lipika (meaning ‘keepers of secrets’) is the name attributed to retired supreme beings (both are from occult lore). N.B. The supreme being is analogous to the Games Master, the great wall a metaphor for the GM’s Screen" - Immortal's Handbook, Page 45
I quite like the idea of what I'll call "divine liches". They're epic adventurers who were denied godhood by Ao and thus stripped of mortal form, but they weren't banished from the mortal plane. They're interesting because even though they _look_ like liches, they didn't perform the lichdom ritual, and therefore don't have to be evil spellcasters. Now I'm imagining some mighty paladin who wanted to embody some aspect of justice in the realm of the gods, but Ao refused, and now she's forced to wander Toril as what others of her faith would consider an undead monstrosity. But maybe that's Ao's test for her -- can she stay true to her faith and crusade even as a lich? If so, she's proven herself a true justice. She could be a neat central figure (maybe a main questgiver?) for a high-level campaign.
I had a BBEG in a previous campaign known as the Lich King. He was an aasimar Paladin who was destined to become a demigod himself until the cruelties of life corrupted him and as he tried to obtain god hood he was rejected and became a Lich instead. This seems an easier process overall than the usual way to create liches
@@nullpoint3346 She had a choice to let him do it... in fact given what he know he did not have any intentions of being a god forever, he just wanted to use that magic to destroy the magic parasites withing the Netheril...
People keep thinking Karsus failed. He didn't. He did what he set out to do. He did in fact kill Mystra, she was simply reincarnated. Karsus is and was, a God. No matter how brief it was.
You must request the sponsorship of a higher power, one who answers to the DM, but may reject him... This ritual, will of course, destroy all of creation should it success.
I like Matt Mercer's approach to destroying vecna, the forging of the trammels specifically. The inclusion of steps the have to take in combat that are both difficult and steeped in awesome homebrew lore and significance
I believe that wasn’t destruction though. I think it was sending vecna to the far realm, which is an extremely vast and difficult to navigate place, even for a god. I believe tharizdun is trapped there as well, which should be a testament to how difficult it is to get out of there.
Vecna was banished though. He can still come back in some form. However, with the introduction of demigods in campaign 2 I feel that Grog and Percy could have stumbled into godhood. Grog and stated to Scanlan that he wants to live forever.
@@bindingofash1824 He almost took out all the gods in Dragonlance, starting with Takhisis (Tiamat in this setting). But stopped because he loved his brother.
Not quite. Raistlin Majere is the most well known character in the Dragonlance series. He is an evil mage that aspires to godhood. Just before he is about to succeed, he is shown the future where he kills and supplants the main evil goddess Takhisis and then goes on to kill the entire pantheon of gods. However, this titanic battle destroys all life in the Dragonlance universe, and he is completely alone in the universe. Because he is evil, he cannot create life, and starts to consume the stars and ultimately, himself for sustenance. He is horrified and upset at this fate, and decides to sacrifice himself to prevent Takhisis from entering the material world, where he was planning on killing her originally.
I don't know if there is a simpler, faster way, but I know for sure that you can always just start at the bottom and work your way up, though that takes a looooong ass time.
for me this was simple, step one: be a cleric, step two: Subclass into warcleric, Step three: have a pile of bad rolls for the first few sessions and get the name "steve sparkle princess" due to the fact that most of my spells resulted in little sparkles rather than any real damage, step 4: get an amulet which gains power via the storage of souls, get your druid buddy to poisen the water supply, put your amulet on as the entire town dies, gain the power of extra actions, and become temporarily immunity to damage, become near godlike via reaching lvl 20 after a 4 month campaign, gaining more power as time passes, convince your group that you need some time to cast a ritual, use the litteral hundreds of thousands souls stored in the amulet to start a ritual, your DM found this actually good enough to write a campaign where the campaign goal is to prevent steve from casting the ritual, the campaign fails, steve accends, and becomes a god, and is forced to fight to the death, use the amulet to absorb the gods strongest attacks, and finally replacing the god of war (the reason why the god of war isn't called torm or anything like that is due to the DMs custom lore, that there is only one god of each domain, and they are all competing for their role to be the largest and the most used)
in other words, be cleric, become joke character, kill thousands of innocents, descend from chaotic neutral to bordering on evil, become so powerful that you can be a main villain of a campaign, defeat the party, and finally transcending mortality, betray your god, and take his place
Thank you so much for making this series of videos. I think I asked for a series on the gods and Forgotten Realms lore (if you were into it), so I'm very pleased to see it. This video reminded me of Kiaransalee, a lesser deity in the Drow pantheon. During the War of the Spider Queen, Drow wizards experimenting with High Magic performed a ritual removing her from the memories of all mortals, and even the gods. This led to a lack of worship that destroyed her divinity. The FR wiki says that she was later revived during the Second Sundering, but still, cool trick.
@@dumbbass8867 With kou-to it more of psionic energy creating a "god", they a think/believe of X their brains create X. X is entirely separate being, if another group thinks/prays to X they make their own X, unless group 1 and 2 prays to the same exact version of X. X is a psionic based being, not divine and is sustained by actual thought more than faith, though for the kou-to their is little difference.
Imagine the incredible hurdles you have to overcome to even attempt apotheosis, countless hours of magical research and grueling training and adventuring, finally completing the ritual, and AO just goes "nah bro". Gg
In my homebrew there is an artifact called the ‘Mortal Coil’ which is a set of chains. If used to somehow capture a god it forced them into a mortal form allowing them to be killed by a mortal. Of course, this requires you to somehow get to the god and not just the avatar or one of its servants which is a very hard task.
Not gonna lie, for the first 30 seconds, I thought you're was gonna hit us with a Raid Shadow Legends ad. So unusual to see moving video in your... video.
Bind them to form, stricken all connection to majick, force the laws of the world to turn divinity into phenomena, subject them to the same fate as abandoned souls. It can be done and there are many deserving final death, especially the ones who care for the dead With this, there is no replacement
If you're referring to Karsus' Avatar, what actually killed Mystra was the magical backlash of Karus temporarily usurping her control of the weave. In other words, it was an unintended side effect and if Karsus had temporarily usurped the portfolio of any other god, it wouldn't have been a problem.
Something that I thought would be interesting would be to have a being that would feed off dead or dying Gods. The being I came up with is the mother of a race I've invented called the Sca'hach. She is called Ungoliant and like her namesake no one knows where she came from or what she actually is. And even though she often stalks the astral plan she makes her lair in the shadow fell.
that ao saying no resulting in a lich gave me a lore idea. twin heros seeking the ultimate power of godhood to protect those they care for. one, who is rightious to their core, gets approved by ao. the other, who harbors desire for fame and glory, gets denied. thus creating a tale of a god and a lich who once were family.
AO allowed the ascensions of Bane, Bhaal, Myrkul and Velsharoon, the latter being a necromancer lich. I doubt he'd give a damn about a desire for fame and glory.
Okay... you've earned your subscribe lol. I search for your vids on my suggested feed. No fancy animation, no gimmicks or giveaways.... just straight up good content. Thank you.
I just want you to know that I love each and every single one of these videos dude. You're the reason I got into DnD. I didn't even know that DnD had an official story or universe before you, all I knew was it was just a game where one dude played god and everybody else rolled dice to see if they did what they tried to do. You sparked my interest in DnD and fully capture my attention every time you talk a little bit more about the lore. The videos are amazing, and I legitimately look forward to every single one, and you never disappoint me. Keep it going man, you're awesome.
Mr. Rhexx coming in clutch with these video topics. My friends and I are in a campaign that will eventually ascend to god-killing. This should help a lot.
This intro does lead me to another interesting question: How big of an impact do lvl 20 characters make on a battlefield of otherwise regular soldiers. Can they turn the tide in a single fight, a battle, or are they strategic resources that can decide an entire war? How many soldiers can a lvl 20 character realistically defeat by themselves? This is probably not representatitive of their actual strength, since they are more suited as an elite team that infiltrates highly dangerous areas and fight just a handful of monsters that would one-shot regular people instead of mass battle.
depend, a lvl 20 fighter might battle a whole legion of regular soldier without breaking a sweat (assuming they will have some magical items), but a lvl 20 wizard can make a whole country disappear as they're one of the most powerful mortal to be alive, a quasi-deity even
@@zhadowmoon5811 imagine u are a king, a lvl20 wizard walk in, summon a rain of meteor then teleport away (or go into their demi plane), your whole capital got destroy, everyone screaming. And he can repeat this, everyday Tldr yes
If you've ever played any of the Dynasty Warriors and just cut huge swathes through the normal enemies. I imagine that is something like what a 20th level warrior class would be. So fighter,ranger, barbarian,paladin etc.
i am so glad you are starting this series. I just started planning my own deity-heavy campaign and I needed some good mechanics and structure to visit it
My party recently banished an immortal for the forseeable future. We learned said immortals true name from her daughter, and in an epic fight and 8 wishes later. We won!
Always love watching your videos. They’re really informative/interesting as somebody who doesn’t even play dnd really but enjoys overall fantasy type stuff.
I think term “god” in D&D has lost all meaning at this point because primordials are basically are considered the complimentary opposites of the collection of beings that I currently dubbed “Pantheans”, since they supposedly are immortals of Law that reside in the Astral Sea and the primordials are supposedly immortals of Chaos that resides in the Elemental Chaos. And I think that the correct term would be “divine beings” for beings that have gained divinity -Double D
@@dawsonhelf7922 yeah, you're describing the world axis cosmology, while 5e uses the great wheel cosmology. In the great wheel:gods usually live in the outerplanes, which surround The Astral sea, which surrounds the inner planes (including the elemental chaos), which surround the eathereal plane, which surrounds the material plane/feywild/shadowfell
Mortals cannot kill gods. They cannot remove Gods from existence based on their own ability alone (the story of Cyric and the Dead Three are good to read about ascension). Vox Machina, who are acting in a different universe than the Forgotten Realms, did not kill Vecna, but sealed him, and his existence. There is a big difference between sealing him away from a plane, and out right destroying him.
Thabk you for watching? How about we say thank you for being so informative and entertaining. I dont even play d&d but you make the world compelling and fun to learn about!
There used to be a spell that could kill a god I cant remember if it was 7th or 8th level though. It was called 'Erase' it seems to have been scrubbed from the internet. The spell work similarly to the voidfish in 'The Adventure Zone' but for every person that forgets the information you'd loose a single hit point per creature, this couldn't reduce you to 0 hit points but it would make you at 1 hp. You could also target not just information but also a creature but the repercussions would ripple throughout Reality. Like Casting it on Strahd in Curse of Strahd would revert everything so you'd never meet him and your adventure never started. It was very powerful. All you have to do is cast this on the information of a God and they would be forgotten about. Take away their followers and Gods loose all their power.
I needed this video. I was starting an outline for a game that takes place during the era where the gods are forced to walk the planes in their avatars and I kept getting stuck on real limits that the gods would run into.
I've always wanted to run an evil campaign that ends with the player characters becoming 5th dimensional beings. What PC level would that be? 100? 200? 500? Basically they should be strong enough that the only challenge remaining is Ao, who TPKs them and throws them back in time to the beginning of the campaign with their memories erased.
Dude, your videos are amazing and honestly invaluable in my opinion! I just started DMing my own game a few months back and I just found these videos recently and they are just awesome! So much info. I know it probably takes a lot of time, but i'm like please cover everything!! Haha.
Hey, I want to say that your content is really great. It's actually your videos that have introduced a lot of key elements to some the games that I'm playing in as a pc and a dm. It's always great to be able to learn more about dungeons and dragons, and you make it in such a friendly and easy to understand way. I look forward to all of your future videos, and have a great day my guy.
In my campaign, there are divine weapons left over from the Dawn War that are capable of killing Gods that are sometimes intentionally placed into mortal hands. During the Dawn War, Gods of all of the Earth pantheons fought each other for domains and devoured each other in order to take each others powers.
This is the reason I love AD&D 2e. Overall other editions. Because once you get to 20 your journey still doesn't end. Were in 5th though I am happy that they are sorta hitting the reset button in the aftermath apocalyptic setting generations later. I'm sure they would refine it more to return to the glory of the old days. But as I see 5th e. in its current state it's like a homeless hobo version. Because a lot of DM's especially ones in the adventure league are short-minded for the sake of convenience. Because of this, I fear if it hasn't already happened. WOTC, start using this as a template to limit the scope of the D&D world. Players never seeing and playing in the world at level 16 to 20. What is so scary and appealing in 5th e. that DMs don't want to go that high? I think WOTC needs to release top-end level adventures to give these short-minded DM some more imaginative inspiration to step into the unknown. To let their players become the gods of men in all its glory and horror.
No, thank you for making this video and all other videos. You are awesome, MrRhexx. This video will go a long way to help w my campaign and when I get the situation at home better, will definitely Patron. :)
I think what I've found as a recurrent theme throughout all of your D&D videos is that 5th edition is just so much sparser than previous editions, and that if you want any sort of background, substance, or answers, you need to look to the past to find them. Yet it's the most popular edition?
It's the most easily accessible is why. I hope they bring back some old school lore, but I don't expect them to. They also just completely got rid of the option to go past level 20, although I would be interested to see what they introduce.
You have to remember that this is the collected info from all other editions. Comparing 5th edition to 1e, AD&D, 2e, 3e, 3.5e, and 4e is silly. Take any singular edition and it will obviously have significantly less information than the rest of the editions combined. Plus, the information is still available for anyone to learn and add to their game as they please. Reprinting all of it does very little for anyone.
Sitting here enjoying the video, then 15:09 happens, and I'm like "Oh hey, it's the demo cutscene for Shadowbringers," and then I remember that the Warrior of Light/Darkness officially has god slayer on their resume. Multiple times.
So I guess 4e added more ways for mortals to kill gods, namely various individual artifacts or quests, making each god that much more personal to slay.
In one Planescape game my bard become a demigod of seduction sponsored by Venus because he successfully seduced The Lady Of Pain. My Crowning achievement I can die happy.
lol, if your DM had used The Lady Of Pain "properly" (as in lore and how designers indicated her use) then your bard would not even have needed the sponsorship. (then again, you would probably need something like a lv100 bard for this undertaking and then realistically this: ruclips.net/video/mYJGmYsHCUg/видео.html would still be the result of you rolling natural 20s exclusively.) I mean The Lady Of Pain entity that annihilates GREATER gods for breakfast. In the Infinite Multiverse, she IS the proverbial bigger fish. There are at most a handful of entities that could match her depending on how you read the lore. So I am assuming this was a HEAVILY nerfed version of The Lady Of Pain or your DM was running a Tier 5 campaign of truly epic level. (Or the gods are more of a multiverse presence) I mean it was certainly great fun at the table but it still sounds to me like the Bard equivalent of a Wizard discovering an entirely new kind of Magic unknown to all gods of Magic in the entire multiverse as well as vastly superior and then being promoted to the position of "lesser God of spell research for Toril" It´s like building a fully functioning self learning and singularity capable sapient AI in an afternoon and being promoted to be the head of programming for Microsofts newest Office program.
@@sircastic959 Basically the DM got fed up with me thrown the Lady at me and I asked him if I get a 20 on my charisma roll trying to seduce her, he agreed and he also did a roll of 2 d20 fro her resisting the charm and he got two one (he now has luck like you wont believe) and the rest is history. Also I got yeeted out of Sigil the moment I gained a sponsor and that was on right after I thrown the 20. But yes this should have not happened but it was funny non the less.
hello from the one, the only, the original, Shadow Cat. Adrianous ,Hidden god of assassins, the shadow of death, and a few other titles he has earned over the past 30 years of adventures. loved the video. can't wait to see what is next.
1: Go to god's realm and figure out how to stay without it just saying "No" and teleporting you out. 2: Figure out how to not die from all of it's followers. 3: Fight god and somehow win. 4: Kill the god congrats you have mantled them.
Really hoping this content will help me answer "Can a alternate reality die, and can another alternate reality live?" Edit: This gave me the idea of removing Ao for my HB setting, I want to keep many things somewhat the same, but a sense of the Universe/Realmspace is falling apart, slowly degrading from unknown reasons, and another alternate one bleeds into it.
@@supremecaffeine2633 Lol just watched the video, fun on establishing it. Got a HB setting I am building, Skyworld campaign that will gradually feel weirder, and foreign things will enter the realmspace, which will ultimately reach a height of two realmspaces survival. Sadly not this year, but hopefully next year with cleared goals
an alternate reality deity? i believe a deity is different levels of power and may hold different portfolios/domains on different universes and/or crystal spheres. a multi-reality deity can be a dead power in one place, but a major one in another. it can still send agents over to the place where its dead, to restore it self. thats how i think of it anyways. though multi-reality deities are rare, and you'd need approval from whatever overgod (like ao, or maybe the lady of pain) rules its respective place
Quick question: What would happen if a god suddenly lost the thing they ruled, for example what would happen to Palor if the sun was suddenly destroyed?
FUN FACT: Lord Ao, who is literally the god of godhood and who keeps the other gods in line, reports to an entity known as the "Being of Light," which is heavily implied to be the DM
I feel like that's just Ao being the DM with extra steps.
Luminous entity you talk about I asume?
mew the mew I think so.
@@Epicmonk117 yea when I looked into wiki of ao it said "serves luminious entity" in I think 1e section
Then thet retconed to say ao doesn't serve anyone
Open to interpretation: twitter.com/TDenningauthor/status/1217666259141234688 so who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ao: God of gods, controls who becomes a god.
*laughs in DM*
Ao is implied to be the DM tho
@@wobblefoot7607 or serving the dm
Actually, Ao serves a Luminous Being which could be interpreted as the DM. Although at some point it was said that Ao serves noone so that may have been retconned.
@George Gebhard if Ao is the DM does that mean scheduling is tharizdun
Yeah the luminous being rules over Ao, and that is meant to be the dm
Begining of the series: "Hey guys here some lore on kobolds and goblins to help with your games :)"
Now: *"How to kill GOD"*
My thirst for knowledge can never be fully satisfied, I shall ascend to godhood!
Sounds like the typical campaign lol
Sounds like the beginning and end of most fantasy games from D&D to JRPGs
My (demigod) dragonborn believes that if she eats the followers of other gods, she'll become stronger. I don't know how she's still alive. Much less has a following. She's known as a "Goddess of Harvest and Hunt" in a rather peaceful pantheon. ... My DM has a wicked sense of humor, and I think is slowly trying to push her to insanity. Which is working! -_-
@@FethrPersonal Well... It's sad. But it probably will make for a good story, and maybe even a future villain
Kill a God
The Barbarian: punch it REALLY REALLY hard
I mean non permantly it would totally work.
Rogue: stab it in the back, and steal their valuables!
Unless the Barbarian has a very rare magic item or an epic boon.
Piccolo: "That sounds like a something Goku would say"
Nail: "Yeah, and remember that time you never beat him?"
Barbarians are anime characters after all.
"even the gods do not understand the divine algorithm"
So they use RUclips is what you are saying.
Literally pewdiepie
After all they're pretty much youtubers : entities who get stronger the more followers they have.
He is talking about himself
Unless their domains are secrets, death, or neglect (let that sentence sink in)
-Double D
Confirmed. Google is a confused god.
Rhexx 2019: But what I find interesting about mimics...
Rhexx 2020: Here's how you achieve imortallity and trancend into 6e
There is always Karsus´s Avatar...
gods are already playing 6th edition?
@@Paerigos well, using Karsus's Avatar on actual godess of magik... or probably any of greatest powers... that's an insane risk. Using it on lesse deity or on a member of a small pantheon, however...
@@666lupine666 yes
Instructions unclear,got arrested for murdering my dm
I mean, technically....
Sometimes 1st degree crimes require a sacrifice.
One of my favorite gods in DND is the goblinoid God of Conquest, the one God who rules over all of the Goblin races. Because he was aware of the more followers he had, the stronger he was, so he found three different pantheons from similar races, and then killed and or conquered all of them so that he would have three races worth of followers to make him exceedingly powerful. On top of that he made sure each race was practically bound to him and his will, making sure the Goblins all feared him for their life, making sure hobgoblin Falls in with an extreme sense of Duty, and making sure that the bugbear saw him as an exceedingly close friend of their God. All of this combined makes them an exceedingly strong force, one that gives that god tons of power to rival the gods that span Empires
One thing that is mentioned in VGtM (Orc section), and often not talked about much elsewhere is the Outer Planar War between Orcs and Goblinoids. The next target Maglubiyet has focused on are Orcs, and so for many centuries a war on Acheron has been taking place between the two groups. If he succeeds, imagine the amount of power he will gain!
@Lamodrick Foster Nah, he became exarch of Bane.
@Lamodrick Foster only in 4e, which makes no sense since Maggy is a greater deity, just like Bane, and is worshipped across multiple crystal spheres while Bane is only constrained to Realmspace. Hell, Maggy also has a bunch of deities reporting to him - he's the chief of the entire goblin pantheon.
And then a bunch of heroes come along and completely wipe his worship from existence. :P
@@nightfall4031
The only problem is goblins. Those fuckers are like roaches. You swear those people won't die.
Would be super funny if the "being of light" would actually be called "Deity Master" (DM)
I want this to be canon!
If one were to become a DM, then you... well, become the DM
Or God Master
@@eagletsnupper7876 GM? Doesn't work as well to "normal" RPGs, funny in MMOs tho
The Immortal's Handbook actualy has stats for the DM. "The supreme being is the most powerful being in existence, known to some as the great architect of the universe. Although the current holder of the title may not correspond to the original creator of all things. The supreme being is the dominant consciousness shaping the omniverse from beyond the great wall.
Figures from mythology who could be considered supreme beings would include: Logos (the word: “in the beginning was the word, and the word was GOD”). While Lipika (meaning ‘keepers of secrets’) is the name attributed to retired supreme beings (both are from occult lore). N.B. The supreme being is analogous to the Games Master, the great wall a
metaphor for the GM’s Screen" - Immortal's Handbook, Page 45
“That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.”
-The necronomicon
- excerpt from Abdul alhazred's the necronomicon
"Drain you of your sanity
Face the thing that should not be"
MINT BERRY CRUNCH.
I quite like the idea of what I'll call "divine liches". They're epic adventurers who were denied godhood by Ao and thus stripped of mortal form, but they weren't banished from the mortal plane. They're interesting because even though they _look_ like liches, they didn't perform the lichdom ritual, and therefore don't have to be evil spellcasters.
Now I'm imagining some mighty paladin who wanted to embody some aspect of justice in the realm of the gods, but Ao refused, and now she's forced to wander Toril as what others of her faith would consider an undead monstrosity. But maybe that's Ao's test for her -- can she stay true to her faith and crusade even as a lich? If so, she's proven herself a true justice.
She could be a neat central figure (maybe a main questgiver?) for a high-level campaign.
A lich or Necromancer dosn't have to be evil.
That's odd in a universe where lich-gods exist.
I had a BBEG in a previous campaign known as the Lich King. He was an aasimar Paladin who was destined to become a demigod himself until the cruelties of life corrupted him and as he tried to obtain god hood he was rejected and became a Lich instead. This seems an easier process overall than the usual way to create liches
there are already non evil liches Arch Liches and Baelnorn for example but that a cool idea
@@LordMortanius Vecna, god of secrets was a lich before godhood
"Not even the deities know the divine algorithm that goes behind all of this."
Good to known even these high level being cannot beat the algorithm.
Karsus: I know this one
Sit back down Karsus! You had your chance.
I love how he created spell to kill the goddess of spells. So much for power over magic, huh?
@@rafaelbordoni516 He created circumstances that left her with no choice, but he did *_not_* kill her.
@@nullpoint3346 She had a choice to let him do it... in fact given what he know he did not have any intentions of being a god forever, he just wanted to use that magic to destroy the magic parasites withing the Netheril...
People keep thinking Karsus failed. He didn't. He did what he set out to do. He did in fact kill Mystra, she was simply reincarnated.
Karsus is and was, a God. No matter how brief it was.
How to kill/ be a god:
"Hey guys, I can DM the next session."
Next: *How To Destroy the DM*
Edit 2: here's how: ruclips.net/video/Ux0YNqhaw0I/видео.html
Emett Peterson that is arguably the easiest being in d&d to defeat. It’s covering it up that’s the hard part.
You must request the sponsorship of a higher power, one who answers to the DM, but may reject him... This ritual, will of course, destroy all of creation should it success.
Tell his mom
That Guys regularly destroy the DMs and their camapaigns, though much like Lichdom it is a dark path walked only be evil beings.
Hah, even I could do that
this is gonna be interesting
Nate Was it interesting?
Daniel J. it was.
So just kill all their followers????
I like Matt Mercer's approach to destroying vecna, the forging of the trammels specifically. The inclusion of steps the have to take in combat that are both difficult and steeped in awesome homebrew lore and significance
Looking forward to seeing this though as I haven't found this info in any of the newer books :)
I believe that wasn’t destruction though. I think it was sending vecna to the far realm, which is an extremely vast and difficult to navigate place, even for a god. I believe tharizdun is trapped there as well, which should be a testament to how difficult it is to get out of there.
Vecna was banished though. He can still come back in some form. However, with the introduction of demigods in campaign 2 I feel that Grog and Percy could have stumbled into godhood. Grog and stated to Scanlan that he wants to live forever.
@@zacharygadzinski3147 Have you finished Campaign 1? Because Travis said something specific to Grog and his later life.
@@christophergonzalez3973 I have and currently watching/listening to campaign 2.
"A mortal can't challenge a deity, the power disparity is too great."
_Raistlin Majere has entered the chat_
Just my thought aswell lol
Same
Can someone explajn?
@@bindingofash1824 He almost took out all the gods in Dragonlance, starting with Takhisis (Tiamat in this setting). But stopped because he loved his brother.
Not quite. Raistlin Majere is the most well known character in the Dragonlance series. He is an evil mage that aspires to godhood. Just before he is about to succeed, he is shown the future where he kills and supplants the main evil goddess Takhisis and then goes on to kill the entire pantheon of gods. However, this titanic battle destroys all life in the Dragonlance universe, and he is completely alone in the universe. Because he is evil, he cannot create life, and starts to consume the stars and ultimately, himself for sustenance. He is horrified and upset at this fate, and decides to sacrifice himself to prevent Takhisis from entering the material world, where he was planning on killing her originally.
I only now realize that one of my players was rather close to sneaking into godhood before this pandemic started.
Thank you for putting these videos together. I know it takes a lot of research and we appreciate it.
Can only be permanently killed in own plain.
God on the brink of death: slides big toe outside plain
Teleport immediately to friend's house.
on that plane they are limitless in power, they can kill with a thought, try again lol
@@TheOracle23 it was a joke you plank
@@TheOracle23 false but ok
@@TheOracle23 damn, good job killing the comedy
Do more space stuff please. It was the coolest series. I love the aesthetic of space fantasy.
Edit: this series looks really cool. Very interesting!
So godhood is out
How does one go about becoming a demon lord / arch devil
Asmodeus has cr of 32 realy want to mess with him?
I think it's the same method as being a god.
Asmodeus is the one who can make arch-devils, no one else, demon lords idk but my guess is that they're just abnormally strong.
I don't know if there is a simpler, faster way, but I know for sure that you can always just start at the bottom and work your way up, though that takes a looooong ass time.
JUST USE A HOMEBREWED SPELL THAT CAN DESTROY EVERYTHING
for me this was simple, step one: be a cleric, step two: Subclass into warcleric, Step three: have a pile of bad rolls for the first few sessions and get the name "steve sparkle princess" due to the fact that most of my spells resulted in little sparkles rather than any real damage, step 4: get an amulet which gains power via the storage of souls, get your druid buddy to poisen the water supply, put your amulet on as the entire town dies, gain the power of extra actions, and become temporarily immunity to damage, become near godlike via reaching lvl 20 after a 4 month campaign, gaining more power as time passes, convince your group that you need some time to cast a ritual, use the litteral hundreds of thousands souls stored in the amulet to start a ritual, your DM found this actually good enough to write a campaign where the campaign goal is to prevent steve from casting the ritual, the campaign fails, steve accends, and becomes a god, and is forced to fight to the death, use the amulet to absorb the gods strongest attacks, and finally replacing the god of war (the reason why the god of war isn't called torm or anything like that is due to the DMs custom lore, that there is only one god of each domain, and they are all competing for their role to be the largest and the most used)
in other words, be cleric, become joke character, kill thousands of innocents, descend from chaotic neutral to bordering on evil, become so powerful that you can be a main villain of a campaign, defeat the party, and finally transcending mortality, betray your god, and take his place
Thank you so much for making this series of videos. I think I asked for a series on the gods and Forgotten Realms lore (if you were into it), so I'm very pleased to see it.
This video reminded me of Kiaransalee, a lesser deity in the Drow pantheon. During the War of the Spider Queen, Drow wizards experimenting with High Magic performed a ritual removing her from the memories of all mortals, and even the gods. This led to a lack of worship that destroyed her divinity. The FR wiki says that she was later revived during the Second Sundering, but still, cool trick.
Don’t let my players see this
Killing gods is the new meta
@@Tribune_of_Italia New? This has been around since 1st edition. How old are you that 1979 is "new"?
@@joshuarichardson6529 bruh it was a joke
@joshuarichardson6529 they're ancient players. While we play dnd with pen and paper, they lived the adventures
Those darn cultists. Also you forgot the Kuo toa option
Yeah! that was what I was thinking!
@@dumbbass8867 With kou-to it more of psionic energy creating a "god", they a think/believe of X their brains create X. X is entirely separate being, if another group thinks/prays to X they make their own X, unless group 1 and 2 prays to the same exact version of X. X is a psionic based being, not divine and is sustained by actual thought more than faith, though for the kou-to their is little difference.
@@atomicash2475 I was just saying to amass enough worshippers.
*Actually you missed something .*
*1st : Going beyond level 20 is covered in the core fifth edition books .*
*It's in the Dungeon masters guide .*
*It's on pages 230 , 231 & 232 .*
This is a D&D character
This is a level 20 character
And this is to go even further beyond!
Always a pleasure to hear your voice tied with lore. Thanks for being my favorite place to go on RUclips to get such information!
Imagine the incredible hurdles you have to overcome to even attempt apotheosis, countless hours of magical research and grueling training and adventuring, finally completing the ritual, and AO just goes "nah bro". Gg
Pain: "I do not...know..."
Panic: "You can't! They're immortal!?"
In my homebrew there is an artifact called the ‘Mortal Coil’ which is a set of chains. If used to somehow capture a god it forced them into a mortal form allowing them to be killed by a mortal. Of course, this requires you to somehow get to the god and not just the avatar or one of its servants which is a very hard task.
Not gonna lie, for the first 30 seconds, I thought you're was gonna hit us with a Raid Shadow Legends ad.
So unusual to see moving video in your... video.
Its from the game neverwinter nights 2, based on D&D
Thank Patreon for getting rid of that advert
This is exactly what I need for a campaign I'm about to run! Really excited for the next few episodes! Thank you!!
Bind them to form, stricken all connection to majick, force the laws of the world to turn divinity into phenomena, subject them to the same fate as abandoned souls. It can be done and there are many deserving final death, especially the ones who care for the dead
With this, there is no replacement
Yes! A deity series! You never cease to amazing and give me content as I DM MrRhexx :) Thank you so much.
Lol that thumbnail is Rick, Birdperson, and Squanchy.
As far as I remember a certain wizard found it to be quite easy to kill a certain goddess of magic.
If you're referring to Karsus' Avatar, what actually killed Mystra was the magical backlash of Karus temporarily usurping her control of the weave. In other words, it was an unintended side effect and if Karsus had temporarily usurped the portfolio of any other god, it wouldn't have been a problem.
Is no one going to talk about how the thumbnail is a dramatic drawing of Rick Sanchez, Squanchy, and Birdperson?
Something that I thought would be interesting would be to have a being that would feed off dead or dying Gods. The being I came up with is the mother of a race I've invented called the Sca'hach. She is called Ungoliant and like her namesake no one knows where she came from or what she actually is. And even though she often stalks the astral plan she makes her lair in the shadow fell.
that ao saying no resulting in a lich gave me a lore idea.
twin heros seeking the ultimate power of godhood to protect those they care for. one, who is rightious to their core, gets approved by ao. the other, who harbors desire for fame and glory, gets denied. thus creating a tale of a god and a lich who once were family.
AO allowed the ascensions of Bane, Bhaal, Myrkul and Velsharoon, the latter being a necromancer lich. I doubt he'd give a damn about a desire for fame and glory.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie; and with strange aeons, death may die...."
"even death may die... " sounds better I think
No one:
MrRhexx: Kill gods!
Me: Ayt
You are the greatest content creator ever known to humanity. Man , I appreciate your works so much. Thanks, MrRhexx
Okay... you've earned your subscribe lol. I search for your vids on my suggested feed. No fancy animation, no gimmicks or giveaways.... just straight up good content. Thank you.
"Yo God of Gods, can I be a God"
"No."
"Welp guess i'll be an evil lich for an intermediate level party to xp grind"
I just want you to know that I love each and every single one of these videos dude. You're the reason I got into DnD. I didn't even know that DnD had an official story or universe before you, all I knew was it was just a game where one dude played god and everybody else rolled dice to see if they did what they tried to do. You sparked my interest in DnD and fully capture my attention every time you talk a little bit more about the lore. The videos are amazing, and I legitimately look forward to every single one, and you never disappoint me. Keep it going man, you're awesome.
Killing gods. Finally something practical.
Mr. Rhexx coming in clutch with these video topics. My friends and I are in a campaign that will eventually ascend to god-killing. This should help a lot.
This intro does lead me to another interesting question: How big of an impact do lvl 20 characters make on a battlefield of otherwise regular soldiers. Can they turn the tide in a single fight, a battle, or are they strategic resources that can decide an entire war? How many soldiers can a lvl 20 character realistically defeat by themselves? This is probably not representatitive of their actual strength, since they are more suited as an elite team that infiltrates highly dangerous areas and fight just a handful of monsters that would one-shot regular people instead of mass battle.
depend, a lvl 20 fighter might battle a whole legion of regular soldier without breaking a sweat (assuming they will have some magical items), but a lvl 20 wizard can make a whole country disappear as they're one of the most powerful mortal to be alive, a quasi-deity even
@@crow3958You sure a wizard that powerful
@@zhadowmoon5811 imagine u are a king, a lvl20 wizard walk in, summon a rain of meteor then teleport away (or go into their demi plane), your whole capital got destroy, everyone screaming. And he can repeat this, everyday
Tldr yes
If you've ever played any of the Dynasty Warriors and just cut huge swathes through the normal enemies. I imagine that is something like what a 20th level warrior class would be. So fighter,ranger, barbarian,paladin etc.
i am so glad you are starting this series. I just started planning my own deity-heavy campaign and I needed some good mechanics and structure to visit it
My party recently banished an immortal for the forseeable future.
We learned said immortals true name from her daughter, and in an epic fight and 8 wishes later. We won!
Always love watching your videos. They’re really informative/interesting as somebody who doesn’t even play dnd really but enjoys overall fantasy type stuff.
Ao: "... No."
Me: "But whyyyy!?"
Ao: "Cuz I said so."
"Port-a-folio"
Great video! Keep it up!
MrRhexx: How to Destroy a Deity
Kratos: "Well boi, let me tell you a story..."
Our bbeg is a man looking to kill the gods for allowing his family to die. Thanks for the walk through.
9:35 this must be the way the monster/god was defeated in
"IT, Chapter 2" the movie/book. No one believed in the monster therefor it didn't exist...
I think term “god” in D&D has lost all meaning at this point because primordials are basically are considered the complimentary opposites of the collection of beings that I currently dubbed “Pantheans”, since they supposedly are immortals of Law that reside in the Astral Sea and the primordials are supposedly immortals of Chaos that resides in the Elemental Chaos. And I think that the correct term would be “divine beings” for beings that have gained divinity
-Double D
Pretty sure that's 4e lore
@@حَسن-م3ه9ظ Really?
@@dawsonhelf7922 yeah, you're describing the world axis cosmology, while 5e uses the great wheel cosmology.
In the great wheel:gods usually live in the outerplanes, which surround The Astral sea, which surrounds the inner planes (including the elemental chaos), which surround the eathereal plane, which surrounds the material plane/feywild/shadowfell
"Mortals can't defeat gods."
Vox Machina, who literally took on Vecna and banished him: "Am I a joke to you?"
Mortals cannot kill gods. They cannot remove Gods from existence based on their own ability alone (the story of Cyric and the Dead Three are good to read about ascension). Vox Machina, who are acting in a different universe than the Forgotten Realms, did not kill Vecna, but sealed him, and his existence. There is a big difference between sealing him away from a plane, and out right destroying him.
Thabk you for watching?
How about we say thank you for being so informative and entertaining.
I dont even play d&d but you make the world compelling and fun to learn about!
There used to be a spell that could kill a god I cant remember if it was 7th or 8th level though.
It was called 'Erase' it seems to have been scrubbed from the internet. The spell work similarly to the voidfish in 'The Adventure Zone' but for every person that forgets the information you'd loose a single hit point per creature, this couldn't reduce you to 0 hit points but it would make you at 1 hp.
You could also target not just information but also a creature but the repercussions would ripple throughout Reality. Like Casting it on Strahd in Curse of Strahd would revert everything so you'd never meet him and your adventure never started. It was very powerful.
All you have to do is cast this on the information of a God and they would be forgotten about. Take away their followers and Gods loose all their power.
Sounds homebrew
@@lorekeeper685 It actually wasn't and that's the weird thing.
I needed this video.
I was starting an outline for a game that takes place during the era where the gods are forced to walk the planes in their avatars and I kept getting stuck on real limits that the gods would run into.
I've always wanted to run an evil campaign that ends with the player characters becoming 5th dimensional beings. What PC level would that be? 100? 200? 500?
Basically they should be strong enough that the only challenge remaining is Ao, who TPKs them and throws them back in time to the beginning of the campaign with their memories erased.
Dude, your videos are amazing and honestly invaluable in my opinion! I just started DMing my own game a few months back and I just found these videos recently and they are just awesome! So much info. I know it probably takes a lot of time, but i'm like please cover everything!! Haha.
This is useful information. I'm creating a campaign wherein most of the gods were slain centuries ago.
@DreamPioneer12777 Fascinating! I wonder how 3-5 adventurers will fix all that
Hey, I want to say that your content is really great. It's actually your videos that have introduced a lot of key elements to some the games that I'm playing in as a pc and a dm. It's always great to be able to learn more about dungeons and dragons, and you make it in such a friendly and easy to understand way. I look forward to all of your future videos, and have a great day my guy.
"How to kill a god"? guys I think the isolation is driving Rhexx mad
In my campaign, there are divine weapons left over from the Dawn War that are capable of killing Gods that are sometimes intentionally placed into mortal hands. During the Dawn War, Gods of all of the Earth pantheons fought each other for domains and devoured each other in order to take each others powers.
This is the reason I love AD&D 2e. Overall other editions. Because once you get to 20 your journey still doesn't end. Were in 5th though I am happy that they are sorta hitting the reset button in the aftermath apocalyptic setting generations later. I'm sure they would refine it more to return to the glory of the old days. But as I see 5th e. in its current state it's like a homeless hobo version. Because a lot of DM's especially ones in the adventure league are short-minded for the sake of convenience. Because of this, I fear if it hasn't already happened. WOTC, start using this as a template to limit the scope of the D&D world. Players never seeing and playing in the world at level 16 to 20. What is so scary and appealing in 5th e. that DMs don't want to go that high? I think WOTC needs to release top-end level adventures to give these short-minded DM some more imaginative inspiration to step into the unknown. To let their players become the gods of men in all its glory and horror.
No, thank you for making this video and all other videos. You are awesome, MrRhexx. This video will go a long way to help w my campaign and when I get the situation at home better, will definitely Patron. :)
I think what I've found as a recurrent theme throughout all of your D&D videos is that 5th edition is just so much sparser than previous editions, and that if you want any sort of background, substance, or answers, you need to look to the past to find them. Yet it's the most popular edition?
It's the most easily accessible is why. I hope they bring back some old school lore, but I don't expect them to. They also just completely got rid of the option to go past level 20, although I would be interested to see what they introduce.
@Warlok That was an excellent reply, thank you :)
@@Gasfiend it has also been around for a shorter period of time
You have to remember that this is the collected info from all other editions. Comparing 5th edition to 1e, AD&D, 2e, 3e, 3.5e, and 4e is silly. Take any singular edition and it will obviously have significantly less information than the rest of the editions combined. Plus, the information is still available for anyone to learn and add to their game as they please. Reprinting all of it does very little for anyone.
@Warlok Best reply ever for these D&D lore videos
Sitting here enjoying the video, then 15:09 happens, and I'm like "Oh hey, it's the demo cutscene for Shadowbringers," and then I remember that the Warrior of Light/Darkness officially has god slayer on their resume.
Multiple times.
So I guess 4e added more ways for mortals to kill gods, namely various individual artifacts or quests, making each god that much more personal to slay.
Just got done rewatching "The Strongest Spell in Dungeons and Dragons" from you before this popped up, great timing
my weekly dose.... finally i can sate my fix
So psyched for this deity series! You rock MrRhexx!
Meanwhile in greece
Mortal: *sips some god juice* that was ez
I can't wait for the next video, keep up the great work!
In one Planescape game my bard become a demigod of seduction sponsored by Venus because he successfully seduced The Lady Of Pain.
My Crowning achievement I can die happy.
Doesn't the Lady _hate_ gods?
lol,
if your DM had used The Lady Of Pain "properly" (as in lore and how designers indicated her use) then your bard would not even have needed the sponsorship. (then again, you would probably need something like a lv100 bard for this undertaking and then realistically this: ruclips.net/video/mYJGmYsHCUg/видео.html
would still be the result of you rolling natural 20s exclusively.)
I mean The Lady Of Pain entity that annihilates GREATER gods for breakfast. In the Infinite Multiverse, she IS the proverbial bigger fish. There are at most a handful of entities that could match her depending on how you read the lore.
So I am assuming this was a HEAVILY nerfed version of The Lady Of Pain or your DM was running a Tier 5 campaign of truly epic level.
(Or the gods are more of a multiverse presence)
I mean it was certainly great fun at the table but it still sounds to me like the Bard equivalent of a Wizard discovering an entirely new kind of Magic unknown to all gods of Magic in the entire multiverse as well as vastly superior and then being promoted to the position of "lesser God of spell research for Toril"
It´s like building a fully functioning self learning and singularity capable sapient AI in an afternoon and being promoted to be the head of programming for Microsofts newest Office program.
@@sircastic959 Basically the DM got fed up with me thrown the Lady at me and I asked him if I get a 20 on my charisma roll trying to seduce her, he agreed and he also did a roll of 2 d20 fro her resisting the charm and he got two one (he now has luck like you wont believe) and the rest is history.
Also I got yeeted out of Sigil the moment I gained a sponsor and that was on right after I thrown the 20.
But yes this should have not happened but it was funny non the less.
That's why you have the Tricksters and their demon lord allies. When a god us misbehaving, it is a demon lord's duty to punish them.
So um... nobody's gonna point out how the Thumbnail is about Rick, Bird Person, and Squanchy during some sort of war.
hello from the one, the only, the original, Shadow Cat. Adrianous ,Hidden god of assassins, the shadow of death, and a few other titles he has earned over the past 30 years of adventures. loved the video. can't wait to see what is next.
Why did it take me so long to realize thats a rick and morty fan art picture 😂
Yes! This the series I've been waiting from you good sir.
1: Go to god's realm and figure out how to stay without it just saying "No" and teleporting you out.
2: Figure out how to not die from all of it's followers.
3: Fight god and somehow win.
4: Kill the god congrats you have mantled them.
I appreciate every video of yours I've watched. Thank You for all the amazing content! You are an AMAZING creator! Thank You!!
Easy, just stab a god with the Staff of Armadyl.
thanks for all your work mate!
another cool video for the channel
When you said "Sponsorship" i thought you were gonna say Sponsorship of RAID SHADOW LEGENDS xD
Q: "How do you kill Mystra?"
A: "Move to the next version of D&D"
Really hoping this content will help me answer
"Can a alternate reality die, and can another alternate reality live?"
Edit: This gave me the idea of removing Ao for my HB setting, I want to keep many things somewhat the same, but a sense of the Universe/Realmspace is falling apart, slowly degrading from unknown reasons, and another alternate one bleeds into it.
Yes.
Alternate realities have infinite possibilities. In one reality you may be a tavern wench in another you may become a warrior king.
@@supremecaffeine2633 Lol just watched the video, fun on establishing it.
Got a HB setting I am building, Skyworld campaign that will gradually feel weirder, and foreign things will enter the realmspace, which will ultimately reach a height of two realmspaces survival. Sadly not this year, but hopefully next year with cleared goals
an alternate reality deity?
i believe a deity is different levels of power and may hold different portfolios/domains on different universes and/or crystal spheres.
a multi-reality deity can be a dead power in one place, but a major one in another. it can still send agents over to the place where its dead, to restore it self.
thats how i think of it anyways. though multi-reality deities are rare, and you'd need approval from whatever overgod (like ao, or maybe the lady of pain) rules its respective place
I love how well timed those ads are
"The god of gods."
So, the DM? Lol
No the dm is above that
This is wild! Keep it up boss man
Quick question:
What would happen if a god suddenly lost the thing they ruled, for example what would happen to Palor if the sun was suddenly destroyed?
Humans building Dyson sphere/star mining machine "Time sensitive question."
I love these DnD vids. I think this series is going to be good.
Yo i'm literally ending the watch of crit role first campaign where they have to defeat a demi-god... Yup.
Yikes, I've only just started watching recently.
I'm at their Slayers Take miniarc
So excited for these, keep it up!!!