I really like this comparison. I just feel like the Raketen is just better for me as a casual PvAI scrub because I like my AT gun crews with 5 or 6 crew so they can deal with Anti Infantry Vehicles better. The countless times I've had a Pak vs T-34 battle that starts with the T-34 sniping a crew member is too high, I just like the Raketen having an extra person makes a massive difference.
Best way to counter the AI is to dive it as its retreating. People have pointed out the AI tends to spam armor if you keep letting them get away. So usually I only build like 1 AT as a safety net when they rush light armor early game. Then later I try to build AT armor ASAP. The AI struggles to make any comebacks once you kill their early game momentum.
Same. Enemy just run over and flank my position and snipe my Pak crew because it has slow turning speed. Plus the mortar barrages are annoying. Not in case with Raketenwerfer. Whenever I feel it's a dangerous situation, I would simply just retreat it. And when it gets 1 star, camouflage ability is really useful for defense purpose.
I always hated the Raketenwerfer, because it could not take any damage. The Pak crew could take a hit or two, but the Raketenwerfer would sometimes get one shot' by medium Tanks. Maybe they changed something in the last couple years, but back in my day I could not rely on the Raketenwerfer
this is basically the most difficult thing about Ostheer. You have to play the early game perfectly and not bleed that much so that your build order can accomodate the PaK on time at around 6 minutes. If you bleed too much you wind up having to sacrifice a squad or your mortar, or delaying the PaK which could be disastrous because of how much pressure a Light vehicle can put on your MP if you don't have the PaK OKW on the other hand is more flexible because the Rak is cheaper and more survivable and can be ordered from the HQ building.
Despite all of its shortcomings, Raketen has a few advantages that make up for it. It's easily accessible and can garrison buildings. Which means despite their low range and penetration, they are still enough to repel an armoured push.
@@veaaltanuwijaya6193 overall this is one of the BEST AT guns in the game (good penetration and great ability). Another AT guns also not so bad, but in general, their PRIMARY role=>destroying enemy's heavy tanks is not so well performed (except Pak 43 and QF 17, but both are expensive stationary things).
Raketen is better in any situation except long range fire. Even then you can safely send 1 more Raketen after a vehicle long range ( one more then pak) and your golden.
6 pounder is literally the same as the M1 except the 6 pounder has 2x the pen (aka Normal AT pen) us AT is the worst in the game, and they have to fight the heaviest armor which is a double LOL
@@TheAngriestGamer. M1 has twice the angle and don’t forget Jackson. When others have AT gun good vs everything US has AT against fast light vehicles and TD for heavy tanks (always pen topvet panthers at vet3 plus hvap for heavier duty unlike firefly and su85)
@@JackBodnar AT gun's angle isn't that necessary plus jackson has no Anti-infantry ability and their armor is literly sucks americas anti tank fight is worst of all nations in coh2
@@bluedangdang4496 Angle itself is not good but with reload below 3 seconds is and better range than other AT guns it is a deadly combo compared to other AT guns when fighting LVs that are fast rather than armored. Very good to take down fast LVs. M1 realy can take down LVs no problemo, you don’t need to go double as you go with slow Pak40. Also I will take Jacksonn over Su85 and Firefly any day - fastest firerate ( better dps and pen - that’s what you need against mediums and heavy, self repair, taking points) and best penetration. Vet 3 with HVAP will scare away anythiny but Jagdtiger and Elefant in frontal assault BUUUUT it has 75% move accuracy instead of 50% so flanking those to stay out of fire line is ezpz. Su85 can’t do that, it gas no turret and firerate and pen on firefly doesn’t make up for it’s damage (thou 240 damage at vet 3 is nice if you fight only P4 and P4J - 3 shots to kill). America is all about fighting on the move and manuevering. Jackson doesn’t have any AI capabilities (so as su85 ans firefly) but for that you have scotts, sherman 75 with HE, your own 2 BAR rifleman, shotguning with Priest and Calliope, Pershing, airborn, rangers. You have enough to deal with ANY infantry on any range (especialy CQB). USF is like Ostheer - you should use combines arms. It’s not BlobKW that can spam OP P4J and Fallshrims or Jaeges. You have to actualy play the game as intended
QQ okw. use the US at gun then tell me how shit your Racketen is. us at has 1/2 the pen of ur gun. and you have to PAY for a 50% increase making it still only 3/4 as good as ur gun when ur paying for an ability.. it like 12 shots a pz4 if ur lucky and cant kill big tanks at all
@@mradrianus4230 only matters if u can pen. and sense the US typically fights the heaviest armored units... lol.. its only really good for killing cars
Pak 40 is 60 range.
Raketenwerfer is 55 range now.
Raketenwerfer 43 can cover into building, Trench and Bunker.
I will be prefer Raketenwerfer 43
I really like this comparison.
I just feel like the Raketen is just better for me as a casual PvAI scrub because I like my AT gun crews with 5 or 6 crew so they can deal with Anti Infantry Vehicles better.
The countless times I've had a Pak vs T-34 battle that starts with the T-34 sniping a crew member is too high, I just like the Raketen having an extra person makes a massive difference.
You need to make it so that a lot of stuff punishes the T34 if it tries to get close to your pak (grens with faust, mines, spotters ...)
Best way to counter the AI is to dive it as its retreating. People have pointed out the AI tends to spam armor if you keep letting them get away. So usually I only build like 1 AT as a safety net when they rush light armor early game. Then later I try to build AT armor ASAP. The AI struggles to make any comebacks once you kill their early game momentum.
Same. Enemy just run over and flank my position and snipe my Pak crew because it has slow turning speed. Plus the mortar barrages are annoying. Not in case with Raketenwerfer. Whenever I feel it's a dangerous situation, I would simply just retreat it. And when it gets 1 star, camouflage ability is really useful for defense purpose.
You forgot to mention Ambush shot for Rakketen. It is 1000 pen on first shot or something.
I didnt know that
Needs vet 3
I always hated the Raketenwerfer, because it could not take any damage.
The Pak crew could take a hit or two, but the Raketenwerfer would sometimes get one shot' by medium Tanks.
Maybe they changed something in the last couple years, but back in my day I could not rely on the Raketenwerfer
Raketenwerfer is a monster in the spearhead mod (the at can blow up any tank with just one or two shots)...
Every time i need a pak 40 I'm always out of mp, while everytime i need a ratketen i always have enough.
this is basically the most difficult thing about Ostheer. You have to play the early game perfectly and not bleed that much so that your build order can accomodate the PaK on time at around 6 minutes. If you bleed too much you wind up having to sacrifice a squad or your mortar, or delaying the PaK which could be disastrous because of how much pressure a Light vehicle can put on your MP if you don't have the PaK
OKW on the other hand is more flexible because the Rak is cheaper and more survivable and can be ordered from the HQ building.
Despite all of its shortcomings, Raketen has a few advantages that make up for it. It's easily accessible and can garrison buildings. Which means despite their low range and penetration, they are still enough to repel an armoured push.
@@minhducnguyen9276 low penetration? raketen can penetrate almost all usf,uks tanks
@@bluedangdang4496 It still has higher chance to ricochet than a pak.
@@minhducnguyen9276 and it is much cheaper and can retreat, dont forget that,and raketen can also enter the building because it is 'infantry'
Feeling of happiness when notification from Yoso > everything
chat, does pak40 ability active for brief second or it will gone after the next shot?
just for one shot
@@yoso3214 i see thanks
@@veaaltanuwijaya6193 overall this is one of the BEST AT guns in the game (good penetration and great ability).
Another AT guns also not so bad, but in general, their PRIMARY role=>destroying enemy's heavy tanks is not so well performed (except Pak 43 and QF 17, but both are expensive stationary things).
i like it cuz we can retreat with it
Wich mod are you using?
No mod
he is using the cheat command mod 2
Raketen is better in any situation except long range fire. Even then you can safely send 1 more Raketen after a vehicle long range ( one more then pak) and your golden.
Why does it say range 55, it has range 60.
Good job
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if they have weapons like mp 40 and kar98k then i think these troops cannot even shoot their gun properly
the range is wrong, pak and all other at guns have 60 range
subscribed for more. nice vid
5 shoots by rocket luncher
Next m1 vs 6 pounder vs zis3 plz
Okay :)
6 pounder is literally the same as the M1 except the 6 pounder has 2x the pen (aka Normal AT pen) us AT is the worst in the game, and they have to fight the heaviest armor which is a double LOL
@@TheAngriestGamer. M1 has twice the angle and don’t forget Jackson. When others have AT gun good vs everything US has AT against fast light vehicles and TD for heavy tanks (always pen topvet panthers at vet3 plus hvap for heavier duty unlike firefly and su85)
@@JackBodnar AT gun's angle isn't that necessary plus jackson has no Anti-infantry ability and their armor is literly sucks
americas anti tank fight is worst of all nations in coh2
@@bluedangdang4496 Angle itself is not good but with reload below 3 seconds is and better range than other AT guns it is a deadly combo compared to other AT guns when fighting LVs that are fast rather than armored. Very good to take down fast LVs. M1 realy can take down LVs no problemo, you don’t need to go double as you go with slow Pak40.
Also I will take Jacksonn over Su85 and Firefly any day - fastest firerate ( better dps and pen - that’s what you need against mediums and heavy, self repair, taking points) and best penetration. Vet 3 with HVAP will scare away anythiny but Jagdtiger and Elefant in frontal assault BUUUUT it has 75% move accuracy instead of 50% so flanking those to stay out of fire line is ezpz. Su85 can’t do that, it gas no turret and firerate and pen on firefly doesn’t make up for it’s damage (thou 240 damage at vet 3 is nice if you fight only P4 and P4J - 3 shots to kill). America is all about fighting on the move and manuevering. Jackson doesn’t have any AI capabilities (so as su85 ans firefly) but for that you have scotts, sherman 75 with HE, your own 2 BAR rifleman, shotguning with Priest and Calliope, Pershing, airborn, rangers. You have enough to deal with ANY infantry on any range (especialy CQB). USF is like Ostheer - you should use combines arms. It’s not BlobKW that can spam OP P4J and Fallshrims or Jaeges. You have to actualy play the game as intended
QQ okw. use the US at gun then tell me how shit your Racketen is.
us at has 1/2 the pen of ur gun. and you have to PAY for a 50% increase making it still only 3/4 as good as ur gun when ur paying for an ability.. it like 12 shots a pz4 if ur lucky and cant kill big tanks at all
It shoot faster meaning higher chances to get that last shot in
@@mradrianus4230 only matters if u can pen. and sense the US typically fights the heaviest armored units... lol.. its only really good for killing cars
@@mradrianus4230 i bet almost all players will use raketen than m1
@@bluedangdang4496 The Raketen is just that good. Also USF has other good Anti Armor options.