Want to say thank you. I had over 35 hours and over 170 landings and still no solo. It was just as you said. Every landing felt different, my patterns were ok but not great. I could manhandle it into a good landing every now and again but with no consistency. Just more and more frustration. Then I had a truly awful flight in the pattern, made about 5 landings with 2 go arounds and a couple of very hard landings with each getting worse and worse before my instructor said let's make this next one a full stop and call it a day. We taxied back in complete silence. I got in the car after the flight completely discouraged and thinking maybe this isn't for me and maybe I should just stop wasting my time and money. Came home and didn't think about flying for a few days until I decided to watch this. It was like you were talking right to me. So I watched it over and over then decided to give it another shot. Started managing my speed on downwind and making sure my eyes went down the runway as I transitioned to land. And it just clicked. I started rewatching this before every flight nailing one good landing after another after another. Then I passed my presolo check ride. And this morning I soloed.
Mark Adams, I think so that happens to many new pilots, its my situation now with my instructor he can look the runway and is his view, but I am the student pilot making and looking my own view of the runway, its different when he says hold up hold up and my view can be before or later to hold up the control pulling back!!!
Had my first chemistry professor in college tell me not all pre-med students were meant to be doctors. I was crushed, so I retook the course and plowed forward with everything I had. This summer marks my 26th year as a physician. Never let "them" say you can't do it. Ever.
But Jason, don't you know the center line is reserved for professional pilots? :) It is also the smoothest part of the runway... because no one uses it! :)
My problem was I didn't know when and how much to pull(elevator) after the round out. Then one day it just clicked and I got it. It just takes practice and be patient with it.
You won't land properly until you land with the yoke pulled back against the stop, just above the runway. Jason hasn't got a clue - landing an airplane without flaring?? What the hell? I assume he isn't very good at full stall landings, so he makes up his own shit. And that is what it is ; shit.
I have to agree.. My point is that my airport is inside a city so i have to climb with Vx and my instructors obligate me to make a best glide descent angle(to avoid obstacles and noise disruptions) so my round and flare needs to be way more precise. Not sure if precise is the correct word, but i have a greater angle of attitude to be changed during landings and that's makes the tips from this video almost unuseful. Maybe it's almost the same with just a bit more back yoke.
I literally started my first landings today and on my very first go around I took out all the flaps at once, oops..... thank God it was a 172 because my instructor Instantly remedied that mistake. Man did I feel stupid.
I think many instructors forget or take for granted that you know or should know something you don't . i like the detailed instructions and reference points you give. I got my ticket in 2001. I went through 3 instructors that moved on. one that was a jerk never said more than one or two words just tapped instrument's with his finger. and then a young man from India named Vishal B. was assigned to be my instructor. he was patient and informative and taught me the why not just the what about the airplane. he taught me more about flying than any previous instructor. he is a true teacher and has what it takes to explain something totally foreign to you in a way that made sense. i like that you don't assume we know what you know and point out all the small and not so small details when you are instructing. the animations allow you to see outside the airplane and grasp what is happening as you fly. i believe someone taking your ground school will take less time than the national average to get to solo and to get their private. I started flying again after 8 years. I thought that i would get in the plane show my instructor how great i was and be on my way. what actually happened is i could start the plane. i could taxi the plane in a slow weave back and forth. i couldn't keep it on the centerline on take off. i could not judge base or final or when to as you put it transition to slow flight aka land. out of 6to 7 attempts i made one landing without help. and it was far from pretty. i almost gave up. thanks to your channel and another that i wont mention here I decided to go back. i did a lot of chair flying before going back and watched a lot of videos. at my next flight i did a much better job and was getting comfortable in the left seat again. at the post flight he said one more flight lesson and some ground school and I will be ok to fly again. { I plan on doing a few more hours with my instructor and a few hours of solo before taking any passengers up] so a big thank you to you and your team. keep up the great work
I had a similar situation to yours: the first instructor was great but he had to move on. Then went through 3 instructors who were awful and one in particular made me want to quit...after...every...lesson! My current instructor is awesome, looking forward to finally getting my license. Some people are just not meant to be teachers.
So much great info, thanks. The only things I would have loved to see on that pattern would be the altitude and speed, maybe the pitch angle, would have been great to have a map with where the plane was, just to demonstrate your 45 degree / 90 degree angles in reference to your pattern turns. Everything else is here, all the info, but to be a total baby, I would love to see this video again with the top and bottom corners of the screen showing the other things to help spoon feed me. Thanks for the info, best educational I have seen yet
Yup! i'm here. because my testing instructor has got so frustrated with me that he said. i probably shouldnt be flying. i just have the wrong personality. wow! yup of course i considered throwing in the towel. but a couple weeks later i decided to keep trying. so thanks for the video. and for the encouragement!!
I’m at 8:30. Jason, I can’t tell you how helpful it is to hear that instructors of your caliber struggled with the process. It’s good to be reminded that we all had to start somewhere. Makes the difficult days a little easier to deal with.
Thank you! I haven't even taken my first (flight) because of weather delays... in the meantime I am hitting the books & watching "The perfect landings" videos such as yours! So very helpful.
So if I can offer a small story. I am a 240 hr. private pilot. I have been checked out in Cessna 150, 152, 172 and Cherokee 160, 180 and Arrow 180 hp retractable gear aircraft. I own a Cessna 150/150 and I try to fly that 3 to 4 times a month. One day I had to fly a Cherokee 160 to take my friend back up to my home airport. I got lazy and I made some mistakes that almost bit me. I turned final in that Cherokee at 90 knots because I wasnt paying attention to my airspeed like I should have been. I crossed the numbers at 85 knots, and pulled it back to idle. I sank 20 ft in a bout 1 second, bounced 6ft in the air and managed to put that cherokee on the runway, extreme far left, and come to a stop. PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR AIRSPEED and REMEMBER WHAT YOU ARE FLYING. Cherokees have a high sink rate and dont float like a Cessna when you pull the power. Just food for thought from a very humbled pilot.
I don't understand why anyone would say that to another person? Horrible words! Get a new instructor and move on. Maybe they are not meant to be an instructor?
@@PeterPasieka yes, words like these cut pretty deep... especially after 70+ flight hours and a small fortune 'invested'..... -well, gotta prove him wrong tomorrow! :)
went solo on my 14th hour, and i know it was crazy. I screwed up my pattern, medium turn to crosswind...to close to the runway while down wind..but i realized i did quite okay for my base and finals...but it was my first solo so i couldnt really know whether am i too high or too low...above the threshold..idle power BUT i yanked the elevator too much and I balooned and BAMP once...TWICE and landed hard...it was the most traumatic thing for me...I should have just relaxed and go-around but at that time I couldnt think of any...my scariest moment of my life....so it should be right from the start...a good preflight, a good taxi, a good take off and a perfect landing will lead me for a perfect landing(atleast no hard landings anymore).
Jason, Thank you for this, I have had my private ticket since 1998 but have not flown in 17 years. Now getting back into the left seat and transitioning from a Grumman Traveler to a Cessna 150 having lots of problems nailing my landings. This video did more for me then 2 hours with my BFR instructor. Thank you again and Get into the Wind. Richard
I’ll take it a step further. I have almost 520 hours total time and I have not flown for eight years. I decided to go back into it and I was able to pass a BFR but when I try to do my IPC I was just completely out of the program. I thought I had it down pat in a simulator. I had an instructor tell me it might be 15 hours worth of work to get me current. Makes me want to throw in the towel because I can’t afford $235 an hour times 15 just to be able to fly approaches in the weather. I figure the best way is to study and to just go up and practice while I get regular flight time. Grab a safety pilot and try to do this so that when it’s time to do an IPC I will really be ready for it. You’re never too old to learn.
Hello, i have been flying off and on since 1979. I have a commercial with and instrument rating. My proficiency has dropped off because I am now on a fixed income, and don’t fly often due to how expensive it has become. I am 68 - 1/2 and I notice that my landings could be better, because of a less then great traffic patterns and approach’s . My son who I got into flying is a natural and is now a CFI. I won’t go solo until I become proficient because I know better. I have a saying I invented for my mountaineering. Here it is, (Don’t let Judgement be Swayed by Desire). That saying kept me safe. Ron .
I had a similar experience with dumping all flaps, on takeoff during a touch and go, a first and last time mistake: that Oh shit moment where you sink like a rock. Fortunately my instructor put flaps in and saved the day...
Jason, I'd like to start by saying your videos are great and have helped me tremendously during my training. I don't think there has been a question or issue yet that I have not been able to find an answer to by watching your videos. I am nearing the end of my PPL training. I have a great CFI here in Pittsburgh and she has told me that it's time to start grinding down the rough edges on some of my skills and getting ready for my checkride. Recently we have been polishing up the landings and am finding lately that I am ballooning significantly as I prepare for touchdown. My CFI wants me hitting the thousand foot markers and everything seems good (patter, speeds, aim point, etc.) but just as I get down close to the runway and I apply back pressure on the yoke, I am ballooning up and traveling much further down the runway for touchdown that I would like to. Do you have any recommendations or guidance for this. I really want to start nailing these landings. Thanks in advance! Kevin
Very nice explained, but we have only 600 meters runway which is not even straight coming over the trees 🌲 very steep approach , transition how is it going to work???
While I believe this is a good way to start, you should be able to put your plane in a good position and get stabilized quickly in pretty much any circumstance. You are going to get put in a lot of situations that require that skill set. Knowing when and how to slip, being able to hit your spot when your altitude is off and you had to turn a very short final, and just adapting in general are very important skills to have.
Hi Jason. First of all I have to thank for your videos. I am a 43 year old Colombian, nationalized American Citizen, and I have to say that I never thought there would be the time for me to make my dream of flying so vividly come true. I have to say though that all the flying terms for me were kind of a puzzle, being from Colombia English was not my very best. I’ve been teaching myself how to speak proper English and I am just so glad to run into your videos. Not only there are easy to understand for me ( a native Spanish speaker, but also the images and videos are super easy to understand. NO WONDER WHY YOU HAVE A 100% passing rate. I will be joining the ground school that you teach, and I just have one question, once I pass those tests, I guess I would still have to find a school for the actual flying time???? Any way, thank you Jason for everything.
Hello Jason absolutely love your videos and appreciate your teaching skills and knowledge. I have an idea if not previously occurred to you and that is what is the pilot’s mindset.
Wish I'd had watched this a few months ago.. did almost the exact same thing last week, dumped all the flaps too early on a go-around in a piper. Luckily I had a enough height not to slam it into the runway though. Sure wakes you up
Great Instructional Video! I’m surprised nobody created a useful APP that displays a magenta line on GPS FOR BASIC TRAFFIC PATTERNS yet. No guess work for pilots. Identical pattern every time even with stronger winds etc. Maybe there is one I’m not familiar with,
Thank you so much for your videos. I'm working on my Private right now and trying hard to get my landings right, and I can tell you that this video will definitely help me!!
Just a non-pilot Flight Sim newcomer, using Flight Sim X, was watching a ton of your videos the past few weeks, anyway, just wanted to thank you for the instruction. By the time I did a VFR Philly to Pittsburgh flight tonight in the trusty Cessna Grand Caravan, after all that study, I have no doubt it helped me buckle down and I brought that plane down on 10L on a near- perfect GS, nailed the speed, picked my target, held off, held off, and I achieved as totally centerlined and gentle a landing as I've done thus far in the sim. I've only been flying for a few months. Your videos and teaching are fantastic! I usually just set up a basic flight plan, GPS it to the airport, then set up my approach and land manually, thus far. ILS/RNAV still seems tricky to me. Jason, you are an inspiration. Anyway, many thanks I could watch your videos all day long! P.S. I used to know Ocala/Silver Springs Shores very well, had family there for years, still do. Used to go boating sometimes with my grandfather on Lake Weir, etc.
Hey Jason, amazing to hear from you. I, sadly, haven't been down to FL in a long time now, I'm overdue for a visit. I was down there many times in 1970s through the 80s and early 1990s a few times. One time my grandfather's boat got stuck in mud or something on lake launch, scuttled boating that day! We had to walk across fields (and fire ants!) to get to my Uncle's Volunteer Dept. to get a tow or whatever. Har. Fond memories of going food shopping at Publix and playing video games [1980] at some ridiculous game room a few blocks away from the shops and their house (Silver Springs) and of course, Disney World and Silver Springs Preserve. I flew the same route tonight in a Lockheed JetStar, nailed landing again, was astonished! Autobraking nonfunctional, which was irritating, though it landed so well I didn't need autobrakes. Plus plane lacked a VC so visibility was weird.
If it's Eaton's Beach, I have their website up now. Looks great. I don't recall any restaurants on the lake in the 70s-80s, clearly it's more of an attraction now.
Good job! I may just suggest a couple of things: you example from basket-ball is not the best, because players shot from different places in very different conditions (sorry for my english, I'm from Italia🇮🇹). Their "mastery" allows them to shot in any condition. So, in the same way I think, in your plane you should develop mastery to face up to different conditions (weather aso). It's just my opinion, of course, but I suggest that developing mastery is quite important, almost than developing parameters respect. Thank you for all. Regards from Italia 👋🇮🇹
YES! Thank you! Ditch the word "flare". When I first started flying in 1980 my instructor continually had me "flare" and keep the "flare" - yoke six inches inside my navel - until the nose decided to finally touch the runway. All I ever saw was the sky and had to monitor aircraft position from the side windows, for what seemed FOREVER! When I got my first license I immediately ditched the "flare", and once the main gears touched I gently pushed the yoke forward. To this day I have never left a nose gear on a runway. It made for a safer and more professional touch-n-go and, if necessary, a go-around.
You are the best CFI I found, with good school fly training and with a good knowledge physics aerodynamic and precise practice. I am glad I found a smart not only pilot but very good teacher. You know how to teach student fly 😊💎🌻🦋🛩 thank you so much.
Had to do some landings in pretty decent crosswind. At 20 degrees flaps instead of 30. Makes sense but didn't really think about it until I saw it over and over. Less flaps + higher speed landing = different sight picture, VASI said low, but was told it's fine, trust your eyes. Still aimed for the #s. Had trouble with adjusting round out at such a shallow approach but was still safe.
Great video!!!! I'm a 58 Y/O student pilot and have found your insights invaluable. I love your energy as well - I can tell you love what you do. Keep up the great work and thanks for this video.
This is fantastic to listen to. It is your very personal story which I can relate to. Your candidness and honesty is amazing. As I was going through PPL training in the UK twice I thought I should not bother. The first was my first solo. My Instructor said on a landing after we were thrashing the circuit a landing I was not at all happy with he said "You haven,t got a clue whats going on have you" I thought we were going to go back to the clubhouse and he was going to tell me to not waste my money as we were taxying back in a C152. To my absolute amazement he said "First Solo" you dont think youre ready but I know you are he said do one circuit and I will see you back here in 10 minutes jumped out of the Aircraft shut the door and headed for the clubhouse. Off I went and the landing is still the best landing I have ever done. The second time was training for the Navigational test of the PPL. I had a go at the test and the Chief Flight Instructor failed me and had a long chat. He said there is nothing wrong with your ability but you have a severe confidence problem. No teacher at School ever took that kind of time with me but has left a lasting impression. You learn alot about yourself on this journey. I too did not do enough reading and just wanted to get up in the air. When doing commercial studies it all blew me away and woke me up to the fact that during a flying career at any level study is part of the ride. Now I am almost an Instructor myself something I thought I would never be able to become. Whatever your passion is and you have that passion nothing will stop you.
you actually explained it much better than anyone.And that thing "maybe you aren't born to be a pilot". popped up in my head because I cannot land my Cessna properly. BUT now i'm much motivated about it.ONE THOUGHT -DONT GIVE UP .YOU CAN DO IT IF TODAY,TOMORROW OR IN FUTURE. :)
"maybe you aren't cut out to be a pilot". My thoughts during the last few weeks when I was in a slump during CFI training. The switch to the right seat was hard for me combined with some rust, it's been fun. I've finally got it! It was like I forgot how to fly an airplane.
Hi Jason. At 23:30 you discuss how in a high final you would bring the power back to lower the airplane. If we have put flaps in increase the chamber of the wing to create more lift, how does adding more thrust lower the airplane. Thanks.
I chair fly about the same, nice video. Couple things. when you pull carb heat and power back, you want to wait until in the white arch before flaps. And when at pattern height, in the downwind, I would lower the nose to level, then bring power back.
Student pilot here: Great tips, will use the "transition" concept today. One comment is my CFI [7000+ commercial hrs.] requires that I keep my hand on the throttle in the pattern except if trimming or setting flaps. Never on top of dashboard as shown a couple of times.
Just saw this video now and i can really feel the Story Which Jason tells in the Beginning because i was about to throw the tovel Yesterday too when i messed up an emergency landing test yesterday. But this is a great motivation Thank u for this and all the other Great Videos.
This was amazing, thank you. BTW. A question. How you determine your ideal distance from runway flying parallel on downwind. I'm flying a low wing. Keep it at the tip of the wing? Little bit further? Is there a rule of thumb on that one?
That is a sight picture that is built from experience and practice. Creating a sight picture via matching a wingtip the the runway will not help you in the long run. If there are variables such as wind that cause your bank or heading to change (when you crab for example) or if you change planes, that tactic won't help you. As a rule of thumb you fly one mile from the parallel runway on downwind in a small trainer aircraft. If you happen to fly at an airport with perpendicular parallel runways, you can use the end of that perpendicular runway to set your downwind distance since many runways are approximately a mile long. There are a lot of exceptions to this 1 mile suggestion though, many people with slower aircraft fly tighter patterns and of course, faster and larger aircraft fly much bigger patterns.
Very interesting, and of course, logical. Thank you for your thoughts on this one, and mostly that you took the time to answer for me. Truly appreciated.
After my lesson yesterday it seems the key to Perfect Landings is to not have to deal with turbulence on short final. :) Jason, thanks for all of your videos. One key point not stressed enough I thought is the importance of getting the aircraft trimmed properly and then maintaining a light (ideally 2 finger) touch on the controls all the way around. You were doing this (perhaps unconsciously?) at various points during your circuit, but as I discovered yesterday no matter how well you're lined up, if you've got white knuckles on short final, over-control after hitting low level turbulence just off the end of the runway will not result in a perfect landing. My instructor tells me he judges a student's ability to land safely by the number of white knuckles showing on short final. Perhaps you could cover this in a future video??
I’d like to know how best to deal with a crosswind when you’re using an ILS. I tend to do better of using the auto pilot to keep the heading consistent in the simulator. I manage to not crash in IMC in the simulator, but I sometimes maintain An altitude below the glide slope as I get close to the airport, Which obviously you would do a go around in real life. My guess for intercepting a VOR or ILS is to be further away from it so that you have more time to turn, especially if you have the wind behind you. I would assume you don’t want to get into slow flight until you’re established on the ILS/localizer.
Enjoyed the article-on your airspeed and your altitude on the base to final, what is your preferred airspead? What is your preferred altitude AGL? I noted that you seemed to be very low at the turn to final. My instructor is saying you should be at 500 AGL. Also on your beginning of the transition phase what RPM was on your Tach and did you go to idle after you began your transition or did you go to idle prior to beginning to pull back on the yoke?
You can add flaps when you are on white arc on airspeed isn't it like you should wait till that goes on white arc and then give it flap.you should wait till vfe flap speed to get flaps down I think
I found this video to be interesting, informative and pretty well presented too. I can also very much relate to the experience of maybe neglecting the books a little because I, like yourself and indeed most of us I suspect, just wanted to FLY!!! When I began ab initio training I purchased myself a Cherokee 140, the one with the manual flaps and overhead trim, yes, to learn to fly in. The Cherokee was a great little plane, it served me well, but as you will yourself be aware, the Cherokee is by nature a fairly docile and forgiving plane. I was well reminded of the importance of nailing airspeeds recently, after selling the Piper and upgrading to a Mooney. It seems the Cherokee let me get away with a little too much, allowed me to become too comfortable. I haven't crashed my Mooney yet, but lets just say that I bounced a landing or two before the penny dropped, so to speak! Flying the perfect pattern, or circuit as we call them here in Aus, will help with your landings, with the added bonus of preparing you for faster and more complicated aircraft! Having said all that, I must query one point, which was mentioned a couple of times, that being that I have found that taking flap produces a nose down attitude, rather than up, as stated here.
Hearing you talk gives me hope for my own study habits...put me in a plane, I'm ready to learn. Put a book in front of me...juat please dont put a book in front of me lol.
I'm a private pilot who just passed his checkride this past July. I have just over 70 hours and even though my landings are okay, I am still not happy with them. This video helps! Thank you, Jason!
You didn’t talk about your elevation during your traffic pattern descent. What was your altitude agl during downwind, base and final approach? I watched the entire thing and would assume that those are just as important as speed.
Love your lessons Jason however, when it comes to base to final it is my experience that a curved approach is a safer one because if you focus on corners then there is the possibility of a critical angle of turn. Always be okay to turn a bit early... it's better than a little bit late.
Want to say thank you. I had over 35 hours and over 170 landings and still no solo. It was just as you said. Every landing felt different, my patterns were ok but not great. I could manhandle it into a good landing every now and again but with no consistency. Just more and more frustration. Then I had a truly awful flight in the pattern, made about 5 landings with 2 go arounds and a couple of very hard landings with each getting worse and worse before my instructor said let's make this next one a full stop and call it a day. We taxied back in complete silence. I got in the car after the flight completely discouraged and thinking maybe this isn't for me and maybe I should just stop wasting my time and money.
Came home and didn't think about flying for a few days until I decided to watch this. It was like you were talking right to me. So I watched it over and over then decided to give it another shot. Started managing my speed on downwind and making sure my eyes went down the runway as I transitioned to land. And it just clicked. I started rewatching this before every flight nailing one good landing after another after another.
Then I passed my presolo check ride.
And this morning I soloed.
Mark Adams Thanks for your comment, so many similar things in my actual situation, comments as yours help a lot 👍 😉 Have a great day! :)
Mark Adams, I think so that happens to many new pilots, its my situation now with my instructor he can look the runway and is his view, but I am the student pilot making and looking my own view of the runway, its different when he says hold up hold up and my view can be before or later to hold up the control pulling back!!!
I am in the same situation. Just been kicked out from my school for it. I'm not giving up though.
You just told my story. So I am here. Just noted the advise and will try to apply on Sat.
That’s awesome congrats !
Had my first chemistry professor in college tell me not all pre-med students were meant to be doctors. I was crushed, so I retook the course and plowed forward with everything I had. This summer marks my 26th year as a physician. Never let "them" say you can't do it. Ever.
Sounds like the same story that Ben Carson relates, almost verbatim.
Fuck all these "profet" types who have opinion about you and your ability
"Make them tell you no"
@@kg4lzc Dr. Carson is a personal hero of mine.
@@cyberpunkalphamale Many thanks.
But Jason, don't you know the center line is reserved for professional pilots? :)
It is also the smoothest part of the runway... because no one uses it! :)
THE HARRY BROWN PROJECT
You haven’t landed at many large Aerodromes with centreline lights then.
My problem was I didn't know when and how much to pull(elevator) after the round out. Then one day it just clicked and I got it. It just takes practice and be patient with it.
going through that right now.. on about my 16th landing with minimal help from my instructor, the timing still feels very strange
You won't land properly until you land with the yoke pulled back against the stop, just above the runway. Jason hasn't got a clue - landing an airplane without flaring?? What the hell? I assume he isn't very good at full stall landings, so he makes up his own shit. And that is what it is ; shit.
I have to agree.. My point is that my airport is inside a city so i have to climb with Vx and my instructors obligate me to make a best glide descent angle(to avoid obstacles and noise disruptions) so my round and flare needs to be way more precise. Not sure if precise is the correct word, but i have a greater angle of attitude to be changed during landings and that's makes the tips from this video almost unuseful. Maybe it's almost the same with just a bit more back yoke.
@@PDZ1122 you sound like an ignorant jackass with skill envy. Are you a CFI? ever flown a 172? It's not an airliner.. armchair quarterback.
“One day” lol, at more than 70hrs into private rn still tryna figure that out
I literally started my first landings today and on my very first go around I took out all the flaps at once, oops..... thank God it was a 172 because my instructor Instantly remedied that mistake. Man did I feel stupid.
I think many instructors forget or take for granted that you know or should know something you don't . i like the detailed instructions and reference points you give. I got my ticket in 2001. I went through 3 instructors that moved on. one that was a jerk never said more than one or two words just tapped instrument's with his finger. and then a young man from India named Vishal B. was assigned to be my instructor. he was patient and informative and taught me the why not just the what about the airplane. he taught me more about flying than any previous instructor. he is a true teacher and has what it takes to explain something totally foreign to you in a way that made sense.
i like that you don't assume we know what you know and point out all the small and not so small details when you are instructing. the animations allow you to see outside the airplane and grasp what is happening as you fly. i believe someone taking your ground school will take less time than the national average to get to solo and to get their private.
I started flying again after 8 years. I thought that i would get in the plane show my instructor how great i was and be on my way. what actually happened is i could start the plane. i could taxi the plane in a slow weave back and forth. i couldn't keep it on the centerline on take off. i could not judge base or final or when to as you put it transition to slow flight aka land. out of 6to 7 attempts i made one landing without help. and it was far from pretty. i almost gave up.
thanks to your channel and another that i wont mention here I decided to go back. i did a lot of chair flying before going back and watched a lot of videos. at my next flight i did a much better job and was getting comfortable in the left seat again. at the post flight he said one more flight lesson and some ground school and I will be ok to fly again. { I plan on doing a few more hours with my instructor and a few hours of solo before taking any passengers up]
so a big thank you to you and your team. keep up the great work
I had a similar situation to yours: the first instructor was great but he had to move on. Then went through 3 instructors who were awful and one in particular made me want to quit...after...every...lesson! My current instructor is awesome, looking forward to finally getting my license.
Some people are just not meant to be teachers.
I would be hesitant to take passengers until is was a seasoned pro, "confident / practiced" in all situational hazards"
So much great info, thanks.
The only things I would have loved to see on that pattern would be the altitude and speed, maybe the pitch angle, would have been great to have a map with where the plane was, just to demonstrate your 45 degree / 90 degree angles in reference to your pattern turns. Everything else is here, all the info, but to be a total baby, I would love to see this video again with the top and bottom corners of the screen showing the other things to help spoon feed me. Thanks for the info, best educational I have seen yet
Yup! i'm here. because my testing instructor has got so frustrated with me that he said. i probably shouldnt be flying. i just have the wrong personality. wow! yup of course i considered throwing in the towel. but a couple weeks later i decided to keep trying. so thanks for the video. and for the encouragement!!
You couldn't be clearer . . . . as always. Great tips
Very nice. Exactly what I needed this morning. BTW - you have a preachers voice (compliment).
Good video.
Thanks a lot, I was always confused about downwind upwind crosswind etc, in this video you help me to make it clearer.
I’m at 8:30. Jason, I can’t tell you how helpful it is to hear that instructors of your caliber struggled with the process. It’s good to be reminded that we all had to start somewhere. Makes the difficult days a little easier to deal with.
Indeed, we all had to start somewhere! Mastery takes practice. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the tips! I am struggling with my landings so far.....
Thank you! I haven't even taken my first (flight) because of weather delays... in the meantime I am hitting the books & watching "The perfect landings" videos such as yours! So very helpful.
Thanks a bunch. As a new pilot i am enjoying and eating up your videos. Keep up the great work!!!
A stable Approach makes a great landing Captain.
I am joining from Ghana.
Thanks for joining us!
An unstable Approach makes a difficult landing instead.
couldn't be more true!
So if I can offer a small story. I am a 240 hr. private pilot. I have been checked out in Cessna 150, 152, 172 and Cherokee 160, 180 and Arrow 180 hp retractable gear aircraft. I own a Cessna 150/150 and I try to fly that 3 to 4 times a month. One day I had to fly a Cherokee 160 to take my friend back up to my home airport. I got lazy and I made some mistakes that almost bit me. I turned final in that Cherokee at 90 knots because I wasnt paying attention to my airspeed like I should have been. I crossed the numbers at 85 knots, and pulled it back to idle. I sank 20 ft in a bout 1 second, bounced 6ft in the air and managed to put that cherokee on the runway, extreme far left, and come to a stop. PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR AIRSPEED and REMEMBER WHAT YOU ARE FLYING. Cherokees have a high sink rate and dont float like a Cessna when you pull the power. Just food for thought from a very humbled pilot.
Eric Schutte a time
Even 172 is more maneuverable with say - 150 RPM of power when your wheels touch the grass IMHO
'maybe you're not meant to be a pilot'... that's literally what my instructor told me a couple of days ago......!!
I don't understand why anyone would say that to another person? Horrible words! Get a new instructor and move on. Maybe they are not meant to be an instructor?
@@PeterPasieka yes, words like these cut pretty deep... especially after 70+ flight hours and a small fortune 'invested'.....
-well, gotta prove him wrong tomorrow! :)
David S 2 months ago my CFI said ne that and I change now all is going well. ....
went solo on my 14th hour, and i know it was crazy. I screwed up my pattern, medium turn to crosswind...to close to the runway while down wind..but i realized i did quite okay for my base and finals...but it was my first solo so i couldnt really know whether am i too high or too low...above the threshold..idle power BUT i yanked the elevator too much and I balooned and BAMP once...TWICE and landed hard...it was the most traumatic thing for me...I should have just relaxed and go-around but at that time I couldnt think of any...my scariest moment of my life....so it should be right from the start...a good preflight, a good taxi, a good take off and a perfect landing will lead me for a perfect landing(atleast no hard landings anymore).
I really appriciate your work
Good landings:
Right airport
Right runway
Proper glide slope
Stabilized approach
On centerline
Proper airspeed
Stall as the mains touch the runway
Jason, Thank you for this, I have had my private ticket since 1998 but have not flown in 17 years. Now getting back into the left seat and transitioning from a Grumman Traveler to a Cessna 150 having lots of problems nailing my landings. This video did more for me then 2 hours with my BFR instructor. Thank you again and Get into the Wind.
Richard
Welcome back to flying, Richard! Thanks for watching!
Cannot wait to give this ago, and impress my instructor.
Just be cool, calm and collected..Good Luck.
I’ll take it a step further. I have almost 520 hours total time and I have not flown for eight years. I decided to go back into it and I was able to pass a BFR but when I try to do my IPC I was just completely out of the program. I thought I had it down pat in a simulator. I had an instructor tell me it might be 15 hours worth of work to get me current. Makes me want to throw in the towel because I can’t afford $235 an hour times 15 just to be able to fly approaches in the weather. I figure the best way is to study and to just go up and practice while I get regular flight time. Grab a safety pilot and try to do this so that when it’s time to do an IPC I will really be ready for it. You’re never too old to learn.
Hello, i have been flying off and on since 1979. I have a commercial with and instrument rating. My proficiency has dropped off because I am now on a fixed income, and don’t fly often due to how expensive it has become. I am 68 - 1/2 and I notice that my landings could be better, because of a less then great traffic patterns and approach’s . My son who I got into flying is a natural and is now a CFI.
I won’t go solo until I become proficient because I know better. I have a saying I invented for my mountaineering. Here it is, (Don’t let Judgement be Swayed by Desire).
That saying kept me safe.
Ron
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Love that saying and your decision making. Keep it up! Hope to see you flying again soon!
June 2016 Cirrus @ Hobby pulled the flaps on a go around. It was a fatal mistake
I had a similar experience with dumping all flaps, on takeoff during a touch and go, a first and last time mistake: that Oh shit moment where you sink like a rock. Fortunately my instructor put flaps in and saved the day...
Jason, I'd like to start by saying your videos are great and have helped me tremendously during my training. I don't think there has been a question or issue yet that I have not been able to find an answer to by watching your videos. I am nearing the end of my PPL training. I have a great CFI here in Pittsburgh and she has told me that it's time to start grinding down the rough edges on some of my skills and getting ready for my checkride. Recently we have been polishing up the landings and am finding lately that I am ballooning significantly as I prepare for touchdown. My CFI wants me hitting the thousand foot markers and everything seems good (patter, speeds, aim point, etc.) but just as I get down close to the runway and I apply back pressure on the yoke, I am ballooning up and traveling much further down the runway for touchdown that I would like to. Do you have any recommendations or guidance for this. I really want to start nailing these landings. Thanks in advance!
Kevin
Very nice explained, but we have only 600 meters runway which is not even straight coming over the trees 🌲 very steep approach , transition how is it going to work???
While I believe this is a good way to start, you should be able to put your plane in a good position and get stabilized quickly in pretty much any circumstance. You are going to get put in a lot of situations that require that skill set. Knowing when and how to slip, being able to hit your spot when your altitude is off and you had to turn a very short final, and just adapting in general are very important skills to have.
Thanks so much Jason! This was super helpful, and perfect timing for where I'm at in my flight training.
Glad it was helpful!
My CFI has me use power to control airspeed and pitch to force a landing point. I don’t feel like it works
Hi Jason. First of all I have to thank for your videos. I am a 43 year old Colombian, nationalized American Citizen, and I have to say that I never thought there would be the time for me to make my dream of flying so vividly come true. I have to say though that all the flying terms for me were kind of a puzzle, being from Colombia English was not my very best. I’ve been teaching myself how to speak proper English and I am just so glad to run into your videos. Not only there are easy to understand for me ( a native Spanish speaker, but also the images and videos are super easy to understand. NO WONDER WHY YOU HAVE A 100% passing rate. I will be joining the ground school that you teach, and I just have one question, once I pass those tests, I guess I would still have to find a school for the actual flying time???? Any way, thank you Jason for everything.
Suerte Parcero, Colombiano-Canadiense aqui tambien aprendiendo a volar
Hello Jason absolutely love your videos and appreciate your teaching skills and knowledge. I have an idea if not previously occurred to you and that is what is the pilot’s mindset.
Thanks for watching, Betty! Glad we could help!
Wish I'd had watched this a few months ago.. did almost the exact same thing last week, dumped all the flaps too early on a go-around in a piper. Luckily I had a enough height not to slam it into the runway though. Sure wakes you up
Glad it all worked out!
There is only one... practice practice practice!!!!!
Landing accidents are probably the majority because no matter what happens in the air you end up on the ground.
Great Instructional Video!
I’m surprised nobody created a useful APP that displays a magenta line on GPS FOR BASIC TRAFFIC PATTERNS yet.
No guess work for pilots. Identical pattern every time even with stronger winds etc.
Maybe there is one I’m not familiar with,
Thanks for watching, Michael! Glad you enjoyed our video!
Thank you so much for your videos. I'm working on my Private right now and trying hard to get my landings right, and I can tell you that this video will definitely help me!!
Best of luck! We are always happy to help. Thanks for watching!
Thank you very much! You just help boost me up.
I am a rusty old pilot. Great video. I look forward to seeing more videos
I’m almost throwing in the towels too sadly 😢
Hey, yet again you're earning my subscription ✌️
Even myself who knew I was supposed to fly ..... looked at quitting. This is my story. Lol great stuff.
Thanks for sharing, Michael!
Just a non-pilot Flight Sim newcomer, using Flight Sim X, was watching a ton of your videos the past few weeks, anyway, just wanted to thank you for the instruction. By the time I did a VFR Philly to Pittsburgh flight tonight in the trusty Cessna Grand Caravan, after all that study, I have no doubt it helped me buckle down and I brought that plane down on 10L on a near- perfect GS, nailed the speed, picked my target, held off, held off, and I achieved as totally centerlined and gentle a landing as I've done thus far in the sim. I've only been flying for a few months. Your videos and teaching are fantastic! I usually just set up a basic flight plan, GPS it to the airport, then set up my approach and land manually, thus far. ILS/RNAV still seems tricky to me. Jason, you are an inspiration. Anyway, many thanks I could watch your videos all day long! P.S. I used to know Ocala/Silver Springs Shores very well, had family there for years, still do. Used to go boating sometimes with my grandfather on Lake Weir, etc.
Glad to hear the videos helped, my friend! Good old Lake Weir, they have a pretty good new restaurant there now!
Hey Jason, amazing to hear from you. I, sadly, haven't been down to FL in a long time now, I'm overdue for a visit. I was down there many times in 1970s through the 80s and early 1990s a few times. One time my grandfather's boat got stuck in mud or something on lake launch, scuttled boating that day! We had to walk across fields (and fire ants!) to get to my Uncle's Volunteer Dept. to get a tow or whatever. Har. Fond memories of going food shopping at Publix and playing video games [1980] at some ridiculous game room a few blocks away from the shops and their house (Silver Springs) and of course, Disney World and Silver Springs Preserve. I flew the same route tonight in a Lockheed JetStar, nailed landing again, was astonished! Autobraking nonfunctional, which was irritating, though it landed so well I didn't need autobrakes. Plus plane lacked a VC so visibility was weird.
If it's Eaton's Beach, I have their website up now. Looks great. I don't recall any restaurants on the lake in the 70s-80s, clearly it's more of an attraction now.
What makes a great landing? I'm alive 😂 and the plane is in good condition
That's one definition of a "great landing" 😂. Thanks for watching!
Jason, Is your wife a pilot?
My instructor once asked me , are you sure this is the career path you want?
Glad you continued to pursue your passion!
Good job!
I may just suggest a couple of things: you example from basket-ball is not the best, because players shot from different places in very different conditions (sorry for my english, I'm from Italia🇮🇹). Their "mastery" allows them to shot in any condition. So, in the same way I think, in your plane you should develop mastery to face up to different conditions (weather aso). It's just my opinion, of course, but I suggest that developing mastery is quite important, almost than developing parameters respect.
Thank you for all.
Regards from Italia 👋🇮🇹
I didn't expect to watch the entire video at first, but i did. In fact i rewinded it several times. 😁 Thanks for the advices and stories. 🙋
YES! Thank you! Ditch the word "flare". When I first started flying in 1980 my instructor continually had me "flare" and keep the "flare" - yoke six inches inside my navel - until the nose decided to finally touch the runway. All I ever saw was the sky and had to monitor aircraft position from the side windows, for what seemed FOREVER! When I got my first license I immediately ditched the "flare", and once the main gears touched I gently pushed the yoke forward. To this day I have never left a nose gear on a runway. It made for a safer and more professional touch-n-go and, if necessary, a go-around.
Dumb question. Why two watches?
Arkensol holy shit i might just do that on a spare seiko diversn i have lying around
One for each eye, duh. Lol
You are the best CFI I found, with good school fly training and with a good knowledge physics aerodynamic and precise practice. I am glad I found a smart not only pilot but very good teacher.
You know how to teach student fly 😊💎🌻🦋🛩 thank you so much.
Had to do some landings in pretty decent crosswind. At 20 degrees flaps instead of 30. Makes sense but didn't really think about it until I saw it over and over. Less flaps + higher speed landing = different sight picture, VASI said low, but was told it's fine, trust your eyes. Still aimed for the #s. Had trouble with adjusting round out at such a shallow approach but was still safe.
Great video!!!! I'm a 58 Y/O student pilot and have found your insights invaluable. I love your energy as well - I can tell you love what you do. Keep up the great work and thanks for this video.
This is fantastic to listen to. It is your very personal story which I can relate to. Your candidness and honesty is amazing. As I was going through PPL training in the UK twice I thought I should not bother. The first was my first solo. My Instructor said on a landing after we were thrashing the circuit a landing I was not at all happy with he said "You haven,t got a clue whats going on have you" I thought we were going to go back to the clubhouse and he was going to tell me to not waste my money as we were taxying back in a C152. To my absolute amazement he said "First Solo" you dont think youre ready but I know you are he said do one circuit and I will see you back here in 10 minutes jumped out of the Aircraft shut the door and headed for the clubhouse. Off I went and the landing is still the best landing I have ever done. The second time was training for the Navigational test of the PPL. I had a go at the test and the Chief Flight Instructor failed me and had a long chat. He said there is nothing wrong with your ability but you have a severe confidence problem. No teacher at School ever took that kind of time with me but has left a lasting impression. You learn alot about yourself on this journey. I too did not do enough reading and just wanted to get up in the air. When doing commercial studies it all blew me away and woke me up to the fact that during a flying career at any level study is part of the ride. Now I am almost an Instructor myself something I thought I would never be able to become. Whatever your passion is and you have that passion nothing will stop you.
you actually explained it much better than anyone.And that thing "maybe you aren't born to be a pilot". popped up in my head because I cannot land my Cessna properly. BUT now i'm much motivated about it.ONE THOUGHT -DONT GIVE UP .YOU CAN DO IT IF TODAY,TOMORROW OR IN FUTURE. :)
"maybe you aren't cut out to be a pilot". My thoughts during the last few weeks when I was in a slump during CFI training. The switch to the right seat was hard for me combined with some rust, it's been fun. I've finally got it! It was like I forgot how to fly an airplane.
Hi Jason. At 23:30 you discuss how in a high final you would bring the power back to lower the airplane. If we have put flaps in increase the chamber of the wing to create more lift, how does adding more thrust lower the airplane. Thanks.
Do you have any tips for lining up straight?
Same here!
Right rudder :-)
no longer taking the two week -error message
to me a great landing is one where you are on the center line, touched down either on the numbers or the 1000 feet markers and you don't feel a thing.
That is a good landing! Thanks for watching!
Thank you, awesome ideo
Stabilized approach
I chair fly about the same, nice video. Couple things. when you pull carb heat and power back, you want to wait until in the white arch before flaps. And when at pattern height, in the downwind, I would lower the nose to level, then bring power back.
What I do when I make a great landing is look at the person on my right and say, Are we down? It always gets a laugh.
Ha! Thanks for sharing, Ralph!
Student pilot here: Great tips, will use the "transition" concept today. One comment is my CFI [7000+ commercial hrs.] requires that I keep my hand on the throttle in the pattern except if trimming or setting flaps. Never on top of dashboard as shown a couple of times.
The animation at 13:30 has opposite/incorrect aileron movements for the direction of turns. Everything else is good!
thats cause of too high air speed... aileron inversion :D
Just saw this video now and i can really feel the Story Which Jason tells in the Beginning because i was about to throw the tovel Yesterday too when i messed up an emergency landing test yesterday.
But this is a great motivation Thank u for this and all the other Great Videos.
Aren't students learning landings before becoming proficient at slow flight?
Replace your throttle cable if the friction lock no longer works, they never get maintained.
Routine pattern procedure
This was amazing, thank you. BTW. A question. How you determine your ideal distance from runway flying parallel on downwind. I'm flying a low wing. Keep it at the tip of the wing? Little bit further? Is there a rule of thumb on that one?
That is a sight picture that is built from experience and practice. Creating a sight picture via matching a wingtip the the runway will not help you in the long run. If there are variables such as wind that cause your bank or heading to change (when you crab for example) or if you change planes, that tactic won't help you.
As a rule of thumb you fly one mile from the parallel runway on downwind in a small trainer aircraft. If you happen to fly at an airport with perpendicular parallel runways, you can use the end of that perpendicular runway to set your downwind distance since many runways are approximately a mile long.
There are a lot of exceptions to this 1 mile suggestion though, many people with slower aircraft fly tighter patterns and of course, faster and larger aircraft fly much bigger patterns.
Very interesting, and of course, logical. Thank you for your thoughts on this one, and mostly that you took the time to answer for me. Truly appreciated.
Jason, thanks for that terrific instructional video - and for the honest and sincere account of your early landing experiences !!
If I recall correctly, 1 mile is standard, so, I usually try to do a ballpark estimate in my head (120kts for 30 secs=1nm or 90kts@45secs=1nm).
So when you're abeam the numbers, pull back power and start losing altitude?
Bud owens Yup! Carb heat, power to 1500. Under 100 knots put ur first flaps. Then lose about 100 feet.
yup
After my lesson yesterday it seems the key to Perfect Landings is to not have to deal with turbulence on short final. :)
Jason, thanks for all of your videos. One key point not stressed enough I thought is the importance of getting the aircraft trimmed properly and then maintaining a light (ideally 2 finger) touch on the controls all the way around. You were doing this (perhaps unconsciously?) at various points during your circuit, but as I discovered yesterday no matter how well you're lined up, if you've got white knuckles on short final, over-control after hitting low level turbulence just off the end of the runway will not result in a perfect landing. My instructor tells me he judges a student's ability to land safely by the number of white knuckles showing on short final. Perhaps you could cover this in a future video??
Jason : Excellent, Text Book, Inspirational!!!
I’d like to know how best to deal with a crosswind when you’re using an ILS. I tend to do better of using the auto pilot to keep the heading consistent in the simulator. I manage to not crash in IMC in the simulator, but I sometimes maintain An altitude below the glide slope as I get close to the airport, Which obviously you would do a go around in real life. My guess for intercepting a VOR or ILS is to be further away from it so that you have more time to turn, especially if you have the wind behind you. I would assume you don’t want to get into slow flight until you’re established on the ILS/localizer.
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Enjoyed the article-on your airspeed and your altitude on the base to final, what is your preferred airspead? What is your preferred altitude AGL? I noted that you seemed to be very low at the turn to final. My instructor is saying you should be at 500 AGL. Also on your beginning of the transition phase what RPM was on your Tach and did you go to idle after you began your transition or did you go to idle prior to beginning to pull back on the yoke?
You can add flaps when you are on white arc on airspeed isn't it like you should wait till that goes on white arc and then give it flap.you should wait till vfe flap speed to get flaps down I think
I found this video to be interesting, informative and pretty well presented too. I can also very much relate to the experience of maybe neglecting the books a little because I, like yourself and indeed most of us I suspect, just wanted to FLY!!! When I began ab initio training I purchased myself a Cherokee 140, the one with the manual flaps and overhead trim, yes, to learn to fly in. The Cherokee was a great little plane, it served me well, but as you will yourself be aware, the Cherokee is by nature a fairly docile and forgiving plane. I was well reminded of the importance of nailing airspeeds recently, after selling the Piper and upgrading to a Mooney. It seems the Cherokee let me get away with a little too much, allowed me to become too comfortable. I haven't crashed my Mooney yet, but lets just say that I bounced a landing or two before the penny dropped, so to speak! Flying the perfect pattern, or circuit as we call them here in Aus, will help with your landings, with the added bonus of preparing you for faster and more complicated aircraft! Having said all that, I must query one point, which was mentioned a couple of times, that being that I have found that taking flap produces a nose down attitude, rather than up, as stated here.
Hearing you talk gives me hope for my own study habits...put me in a plane, I'm ready to learn. Put a book in front of me...juat please dont put a book in front of me lol.
Transition - also known as round out. Followed by hold off.
one of the most useful videos I have ever watched. Congratulations from a "used to be" private US pilot now in Italy.
I wonder why he was in the right seat, instead of the left?
Hello! In training, the student sits in the left seat and the instructor sits in the right seat. Thanks for watching!!
I'm a private pilot who just passed his checkride this past July. I have just over 70 hours and even though my landings are okay, I am still not happy with them. This video helps! Thank you, Jason!
Happy that we can help.
You didn’t talk about your elevation during your traffic pattern descent. What was your altitude agl during downwind, base and final approach?
I watched the entire thing and would assume that those are just as important as speed.
TPA is usually 1k AGL
I'm impress by our commitment...
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the great tip.
You rock Jason
Love your lessons Jason however, when it comes to base to final it is my experience that a curved approach is a safer one because if you focus on corners then there is the possibility of a critical angle of turn. Always be okay to turn a bit early... it's better than a little bit late.
Thanks for watching, Jason!
love your videos!
Your vids are brilliant. Even for qualified pilots
Can someone explain about when I should be pulling the power back to Idle on final? I don't understand the timing of that.
I think it's usually as you are crossing the threshold, not before, but I'll defer to the pros on that one!
Jason, great stuff!
Glad we could help! Thank you for watching, Tom!
Excellent and helpful video. Thank you!
Thank you for your Kindness and Helpful words...
You are so welcome! Thanks for watching!
Great landing story! Makes me feel a little better
thx man...your story it’s my story...❤️❤️❤️
Love this👍🏼😊 Perfect advice, great job!
looks like someone has been working out ! another great video thanks !