Taking a moral high ground regarding clickbait despite talking about AJ, Fury, Benn every episode instead of the actual boxing that has happened that week, that's amazing 😂😂😂
also, Talksport is sponsored by literally 10 sports betting sites plus their own and they talk about gambling awareness and hownit can ruin lives. They are part of the issues they describe lmao
Click bait isn't just an issue with you tubers...it's the media as well. As a matter of fact, it's what the media is all about these days, including these 3 boys here.
The Sun online breathes off it. Breaking news just in. Football legend dies. Tributes pour in. I'm not clicking that. I'll go on social media. It should be there
It would be funny seeing mouthy Simon in one of those celebrity boxing matches getting his silly head punched about then hearing what he had to say afterwards 😂
Why do they constantly keep spouting rubbish about the Usyk v Dubois fight. Usyk won almost about every round and kod Daniel in the 9th (fact). The only slight controversy was the definite low blow, thats it. Talk about not admitting when you're wrong.
Rightfully so - he brilliant ! usyk has many attributes like Muhammad Ali usyk is fury’s toughest fight !! believe it or not . I pray to God ✝️usyk wins and shows all the doubters wrong .. that size and weight means nothing To usyk plus fury cheats has done it in many fights and got away with it ..
You can have a view on anything, the problem arises when it’s done disrespectfully. Adam doesn’t do that to anyone in my opinion. Simon does, but his disrespect is towards Joshua. This does surprise somewhat because of all the heavyweights to come out of the UK onto the world stage, Joshua is the most respectful and for that reason alone deserves better than being “called a flat track bully” which of course he is not. Fury however is very disrespectful, to opponents, fans, and anyone who basically doesn’t suck up to him. I think Tyson Fury wins this fight because he’s been preparing for it for 18 months, work that one out yourselves
Can't really criticize others for click bait headlines when you do the same. You choose to go with Usyk's a nightmare for Fury, yet all 3 said Fury at his best wins. Completely understand why they do it but they can't exactly claim to be the victim of click bait elsewhere.
Well spotted Adam, Simon, regarding BOTH Fury & Joshua taking on Ngannou and it being built up as if this is the BEST thing to happen in boxing! It's absolutely RIDICULOUS imo, but it really is about business, NOT sport
Fury has never turned in a single performance in his career that would threaten Usyk. He's going to get schooled. Ngannou only looked as good as he did because Fury was very bad. Joshua will beat him easily, his footwork is better, his whole skill base is levels above, and he wont be taking Ngannou lightly like Fury did. He also is always in shape and never on the Columbian disco dust. The Fury these people fantacise about is the one he wouldve been if he had Usyk's or Joshua's discipline.
To answer Simon’s question, re why is this cross over fight happening. The answer is it’s because it’s the heavyweight division, and size and power matters. That’s how Francis can move over and compete!
Good answer if you notice most of the heavy weight the take the belt and won from older champion heavy weights they didn’t fight a challenger fighter like Mike Tyson
Why is Spencer there? He is just repeating what has JUST been said but repeating it to sound more like a moron. The guy is utterly pointless But.. I did enjoy this episode so it gets a thumbs up 👍
I just typed in “Adam catteral dj” after reading your comment and found a vid 9 years ago with a full head of hair learning Barry manilow on the keyboard 🤝🤣🤣
. Instead of holding Tyson Fury accountable, Simon Jordan prefers to criticize the entire division. The AJ/Fury matchup was set to happen, but Fury's defeat in the arbitration case against Wilder changed the course of events. AJ initially accepts Fury's 60-40 offer, however, Fury later decides to rescind the offer in order to pursue a fight with Chisora. Fast forward to 2023: Fury unfairly offers Usyk a 70-30 split, despite Usyk holding 3 of the 3 belts. Is there any scenario that you can think of where a the fighter with three belts is being told that they should be satisfied with just 30%? Usyk called Fury's bluff by accepting that offer, but ultimately it was Fury who walked away from the opportunity to face him in the ring. The undisputed fight has been confirmed for December, with Fury set to face Ngannou. However, due to Fury's underwhelming performance in the fight, it is decided that the December undisputed fight will be rescheduled for February. Unfortunately, Fury sustains an injury and gets cut, which inevitably results in further delays for the undisputed fight. Everyone knows who is holding the entire division at ransom but Jordan and other Fury disciples would rather courts 'the heavyweight division' instead of calling out Tyson Fury for his Tom Foolery.
@@bluemarvelous I was on a podcast this morning about it and they didn't get where I was coming from they just because he's such a puncher bare in mind he's never kod an elite heavyweight. Wilder and usyk are not even in the same league
How can we use an MMA guy walking into Boxing as a measuring stick to compare the 2020's to the 60's/70's when there weren't any MMA fighters to measure against? This doesn't tell us that quality is worse as people love to reel off names from the Ali and Iron Mike era now, but weren't favourable to those names at that time either?! It more tells us that Mixed Martial Arts is more transferable to Boxing than Boxing is transferable to Mixed Martial Arts.
i agree u can't use mma as a measuring stick, but u can use the weights and amount of fighters involved, heavyweights are far too big now which makes the pool of good fighters much smaller, meaning less fights, less worthy opponents, and less quality overall, imo. Nearly every other weight class has gone up in quality apart from heavyweight.
Yep. Simon loves to bring up the word "context" to assist his arguments but very often excludes it for many points he makes and he excluded it here. Also heavyweights are bigger than they've ever been in this era. It's already a very dangerous division with the power that these guys punch at. Let's not pretend that past greats haven't been troubled by much lesser fighters before - Lewis with Rahman, Tyson with Douglas, Cooper putting Ali on the canvas.
@jack28aug great point about the size of the heavyweights and how it effects the pool of athletes in the sport. Also, boxing has slid down the sporting totem pole. The pay is much better and a safer bet in the NFL or NBA especially for the larger men. You could have 20 AJ's from the NFL and 10 Fury's from the NBA so the pool is generally smaller, although Usyk being a traditionally typical sized Heavyweight is showing boxing that you don't have to be oversized to win titles albeit being somewhat of an anomaly at this time. But good points!
@@joewhite22spot on. The way Simon and many others talk is like Boxers were flawless back in the day. They all had Flaws as they should and thats what makes it exciting to watch because you could never be too sure if A could beat B while B can beat C and C beat A. This is still relevant in the sport today and fighters who don't want to fight should be shamed publicly. Its by seeing everyone fight everyone with varying results which will determine how the era age's over time
Catteral and talksport are gutted that they can’t cover fury fights Catteral was lucky to keep his job or will he he’s a very poor boxing pundit he’s local newspaper level he certainly isn’t up to commenting on professional boxing maybe amateur at best
Simons dismissing the fact that for years going all the way back to Ali vs inoki, people have always wondered who comes out on top across all combat sports. Nnganou is a monster and fans from both sports are curious what would happen between these 2 titans ! It hasnt happend yet but i for one would like to see what drivers could compete in different cars, can hamilton rally round in a rally car and vice versa
Good to see Simon challenge Usyk’s last performance. It’s like people have forgotten that Usyk was very uncomfortable with Dubois at times because Fury was so poor against Ngannou. A fit, focused Fury should beat Usyk. Both are class fighters in their own right, just hope it goes ahead now
This is hilarious. Simon says RUclipsrs go around using other people’s content, yet they literally did that on White & Jordan today to get a response out of Nelson 😂
Unrealistic to think there won't be multi-world champions at the same weight class, sadly. Worse still are the rigged fights, terrible refs - Howard Foster etc.
Wish the UK boxing press would stop referring to Tyson Fury as the 'so-called best HW of his era'. Says who? He hasn't beat all the top guys in his era so how can he be the regarded as the best?
Boxing itself is hugely reliant on clickbaite to sell it just look at the press conferences often 2 men shouting at each other I'll do this to you etc sometimes a punch or table thrown personal remarks too, yet they can't handle someone online saying they are lying or cheating or something 🤣 physical wealthy gladiators yes but insecure psychologically, the average person like myself would rather be called a knob in the comments section day and night by strangers daily online than have people trying to punch them in the face, ironic when you think about it 🤔 they get punched in the face for money but don't like negative stuff said online about them lol
I am not neccesarily saying what i am about to say is true, but... if you are a top echelon fighter, who can potentially make tens, or a hundred + millions, in 2 or 3 fights if you keep winning, yet maybe less if you dont, and you are not ready for a fight in a few weeks time, and the only way out of it (so you dont risk life changing money, and getting accussed of ducking a fight, by the fans, and more importantly, the guys paying your wages) is through a provable injury, maybe you could get a doctor to injure you, (in a minimum surgical way) and claim a training injury. There is a lot of wealth on the line, and it could change the course of your legacy and wealth, people would do it. Im not saying this is what happened, but it isnt impossible, especially with the wealth, expertise and power of some fighters. It didnt half look like a clean straight wound, and it may not look as bad as it is. I would cut my little finger off for 2 million £, so what would a person who is used to earning more than that, do? to earn 100 million £, with a far less injury. I would have Tysons injury done by a surgeon for 2 months wages alone.
Adam is full of it. He knew he couldn’t accuse fury of faking the cut so he did it by proxy, paparazzi style, as in ‘it’s been said by some’. Adam is just a sour person and like Simon spouts the cliche ‘I’m just telling the truth’ but what truth you choose that focus on, that’s the thing
I do not agree with the guys at all. Even if Tyson comes in great shape & Usyk at his best. It’s Usyk all day to win the fight. Usyk will stop him in 9/10 rounds
Adams the best boxing pundit imo, he doesnt kiss ass and he gives opinions that represents the fans no matter if he upsets the big boys he should be respected as its rare
Boxing is hit and not get hit. AJ working his way back and that is the way back after defeat. Simon should be required to take 3 months white collar boxing training experience.
11:44 imagine thinking a punch that hits all trunks half of the glove burried in the crotch isn’t low, and the other shots were so low one even hit Usyk in the ass cheek
Usyk and Bivol have the same problem in their upcoming fights. They both do not have the power to stop their opponents from coming forward. Imagine Fury and Beterbiev being wary or scared of the power of Usyk and Bivol 😂😂😂😂 don't be stupid.
Hillarious double standards ... Canelo has to fight benevides after fighting every top contender year after year but Fury and Aj can fight a ufc fighter while all the other ranked fighters sit there watching on complete joke... simon said it best how has boxing got to this point ....
The video of Fury’s training session looks dubious. It looks like an old 10 years ago video taken with an amateur camera. The photo of d cut doesn’t impress me: there are softwares out there that a tech guy can use to create that photo. The whole story is shrouded in doubt & secrecy. Tyson Fury thinks we are mugs to believe his antics. Now it has dawn on him that USYK can cause him problems so he needs more time to adjust & figure out a strategy for d fight or better still dodge d fight absolutely by frustrating all parties involved. This fight may never come on again. Fury will be hoping that somewhere in between, someone comes out of d blue & beats USYK. But Usyk is very clever, currently none of d boxers around has what it takes to beat USYK.
Why does Anthony Joshua always get dragged onto the Fury and Warren naughty step like people just cant criticise those two and put a full stop to the sentence? You never hear Tyson Fury or Frank Warren getting dragged into AJ based criticisms. And does Spencer Oliver ever say anything that hasnt been said in the previous 5 minutes when he says it?
Yeh Spencer always says the obvious,too many clichés and is predictable,ok he was an ok fighter but unfortunately we didn't get to see how good and how far he could of actually gone..
Good to see someone on the show who doesn’t just claim “Fury is the best heavyweight and Usyk is too small” like Simon and Spence often do about the undisputed fight…
Usyk has always deserved more respect than Spencer and Simon have been willing to give him. Imagine being Olympic gold medalist, unified cruiserweight world champion, current world champion at HW, unbeaten with supreme movement skill and fitness, only to be told you'll get "ragdolled by Fury" by Spencer.
Fury will make sure he doesn’t have to turn up to the fight at all. He knows Usyk beats him all day long . Fury’s record is a con. You guys enable the whole delusion of Fury. Usyk is fighting everyone only fury is holding everyone to ransom. He should be stripped
He was voicing the made up fantasies of the Fury hating Rematch-room casuals in the chat, Adam is no better than a Flat Earther and nothing he said was fair or balanced, it was wild speculation based on conspiracy theories from the Fury hating chat 🤦♂️
Warren and the Fury’s are over reacting at the moment because they are guilty the whole cut thing stinks and it remains to be seen what Fury comes up with to get out of the May 18 date Fury faces a real challenge in Usyk and he is showing his real nature scared stiff he has duped the world of boxing and is not the great fighter he claims to be Usyk exposes him
"I've always thought Usyk was a nightmare for Fury" - as a listener of Fight Disciples of 4 years, I'm almost sure Adam's view on the fight was that he thought Fury was too big for him, and that Fury was the best in the world.
Simon doesn’t know that Francis is not only a giant solid beast of a man with a granite chin but he can box. He always wanted to be a boxer, trained early days as a boxer and worked only on his boxing when recovering from his leg injury. He has been training with a good team and has good footwork, unlike any of the other MMA fighters. Fury did underestimate him but he’s a decent boxer too
Klitschko would have beat fury in the rematch IMO, he wasnt mentally right in that fight. Wife had postpartum depression and got addicted to opioids. Everyone always gives fury excuse of not being mentally well, but Klitschko was clearly not all there in that fight which makes sense considering what he was going through and then fury ducked the rematch.
Ali fought in a crossover fight when he was heavyweight world champion and he also fought Spinks who only had 7 professional fights!! It's always been like this
@@user-io1og3te6swill also be interesting to see how Francis handles it wen AJ smacks him “something people seem to forget” AJ is also a big banger with much better punch placement & can crack you with either glove
Funny enough before the fight a lot of people including you said that Wallin was a Banana skin for AJ and now all of a sudden its a poor Wallin. Just be honest and admit that he beat Wallin better than Fury has
Regarding Usyk v Fury, I expect you to be having the same chat in May before moving on to preview the Usyk v Hrgovic bout. AJ is going to try and get one over Fury and try and stop Ngannou - using that old mojo and stuff - and he'll get nailed.... And then all the horrible Andy Ruiz memories will come flooding back. A fighter is never the same once he's been stopped! The End.
The Fury that turned up in the 2nd Wilder fight will beat Usyk ? so now their saying Usky’s foot work and boxing skills are just as bad as Wilder’s 🙄….this lot don’t have a bloody clue. By watching the Fury,Cunningham fight, i believe Usyk gets a points decision .
Wait a moment : in the fishy recording as soon as Fury is caught by an elbow, just one second after, Shane screamed " he is cut ! " And Sugar Hill screamed the same : " he is cut". There was no blood on the headgear, no blood on Fury's face, no blood on his white gloves after he supposedly wiped his forhead. How on earth could Shane and Sugar Hill could figure out he was cut? Why fans should not have questioned the validity of the cut since Fury himself previously accused David Haye of intentionally cutting himself ?
Disagree. There plenty of quality interviews and opinions on RUclips and other outlets. Best thing that’s happened to boxing is the move away from mainstream politically correct promotion and fighter bum licking. People call it out now where as in the past they couldn’t
I'm not a Tyson Fury fan but Simon Catterall was very quick to question the validity of the injury. Even if the fans question it if you're on the side of the fighters you shouldn't be questioning his boxing integrity live on air. If you do l, don't complain when you get backlash
If anyone beats Fury I hope the haters remind the guy hes only beat a nobody who beat nobodys 😂 Who ever beats Fury will be claiming there now the king, very strange.
Francis ngannou KOs aj and usyk. Beats fury all day long the mega fight will then be ngannou v usyk and usyk out boxes ngannou to become the best heavyweight since Ali
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Talksport presenters complaining about clickbait is a bit rich.
They really think they’re a step up from everyone else. I think the “RUclipsrs” do a much better job.
@@sb1980sProba Boxing is one such example
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its not fair that talksport diss other youtubers for clickbait when thats literally what talksport do
They said the other channels sht stir
Was Simon on his way to an Austin Powers cosplay convention?
😂😂😂 I’m creasing
Yeah baby 😂
😂 and a big mini me
Taking a moral high ground regarding clickbait despite talking about AJ, Fury, Benn every episode instead of the actual boxing that has happened that week, that's amazing 😂😂😂
Feels like they have been talking about Connor for years 😂
Agree. They don’t cover really good fights just to talk rubbish about the heavyweights every week
also, Talksport is sponsored by literally 10 sports betting sites plus their own and they talk about gambling awareness and hownit can ruin lives. They are part of the issues they describe lmao
Benn failed 2 drugs test and handed his license back in and refused to co-operate with BBBC requests. It’s an unusual and ongoing story.
Click bait isn't just an issue with you tubers...it's the media as well. As a matter of fact, it's what the media is all about these days, including these 3 boys here.
The media is there to push a narrative.
The Sun online breathes off it. Breaking news just in. Football legend dies. Tributes pour in. I'm not clicking that. I'll go on social media. It should be there
Talkport is clickbait central. The RUclips channels don't have any allegiance whereas as some on Talkport have a conflict of interest.
8:05 Don't apologise for being interrupted Adam , its common for SJ to do so as he always feels his opinions are more relevant than everyone elses.
It would be funny seeing mouthy Simon in one of those celebrity boxing matches getting his silly head punched about then hearing what he had to say afterwards 😂
Why do they constantly keep spouting rubbish about the Usyk v Dubois fight. Usyk won almost about every round and kod Daniel in the 9th (fact). The only slight controversy was the definite low blow, thats it. Talk about not admitting when you're wrong.
Really impressed with the part of this interview where they comprehensively criticise the lack of nuance in RUclips video headlines.
Fury doesn’t want to fight Usyk. Fury will not fight on the 18th. He will avoid Usyk someway somehow.
Blimey the room has been upgraded, love it! This is the best boxing channel 🎉
usyk is to smart and will be to quick ,he will dance all around fury and punish him in the later rounds
Rightfully so - he brilliant ! usyk has many attributes like Muhammad Ali usyk is fury’s toughest fight !! believe it or not . I pray to God ✝️usyk wins and shows all the doubters wrong .. that size and weight means nothing To usyk plus fury cheats has done it in many fights and got away with it ..
agree @@BABZY627
Imagine letting people finish a sentence
The camera set up is much better this episode
You can have a view on anything, the problem arises when it’s done disrespectfully. Adam doesn’t do that to anyone in my opinion. Simon does, but his disrespect is towards Joshua. This does surprise somewhat because of all the heavyweights to come out of the UK onto the world stage, Joshua is the most respectful and for that reason alone deserves better than being “called a flat track bully” which of course he is not. Fury however is very disrespectful, to opponents, fans, and anyone who basically doesn’t suck up to him. I think Tyson Fury wins this fight because he’s been preparing for it for 18 months, work that one out yourselves
And Usyk hasn't been preparing for 18 months too??😂😂
@@haddingtoniangcp2464 sorry if that was too difficult for you 🤦♂️
@@freddiefreeman4119 no it's not. You make it seem like his opponent been doing nothing for 18 months.
Can't really criticize others for click bait headlines when you do the same. You choose to go with Usyk's a nightmare for Fury, yet all 3 said Fury at his best wins. Completely understand why they do it but they can't exactly claim to be the victim of click bait elsewhere.
Talksport complaining about RUclipsrs causing friction and making up clickbait titles is beyond ridiculous.
They have some neck
Didn’t Spencer ever get his ears pinned back as a kid 😂😂
Yeah he did, but then they pinged forward again 😂
Well spotted Adam, Simon, regarding BOTH Fury & Joshua taking on Ngannou and it being built up as if this is the BEST thing to happen in boxing!
It's absolutely RIDICULOUS imo, but it really is about business, NOT sport
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" What these guys do is lure you in with clickbait titles" Title of video = NGANNOU'S DANGEROUS FOR AJ ⚠
Catterall is miles clear of Spencer as a pundit, levels to the game
Fury has never turned in a single performance in his career that would threaten Usyk. He's going to get schooled. Ngannou only looked as good as he did because Fury was very bad. Joshua will beat him easily, his footwork is better, his whole skill base is levels above, and he wont be taking Ngannou lightly like Fury did. He also is always in shape and never on the Columbian disco dust. The Fury these people fantacise about is the one he wouldve been if he had Usyk's or Joshua's discipline.
And usyk has never fought anyone like fury a fully focused fury beats usyk easy he's too big
To answer Simon’s question, re why is this cross over fight happening. The answer is it’s because it’s the heavyweight division, and size and power matters. That’s how Francis can move over and compete!
Good answer if you notice most of the heavy weight the take the belt and won from older champion heavy weights they didn’t fight a challenger fighter like Mike Tyson
Why is Spencer there? He is just repeating what has JUST been said but repeating it to sound more like a moron.
The guy is utterly pointless
But.. I did enjoy this episode so it gets a thumbs up 👍
Quick reminder that Adam Catterall was a failed DJ that did local radio and got no experience whatsoever when it comes to boxing and MMA 👍
Cheers pal
I just typed in “Adam catteral dj” after reading your comment and found a vid 9 years ago with a full head of hair learning Barry manilow on the keyboard 🤝🤣🤣
yeah but under that logic only about 100k ppl would be able to vote in elections.
Quick reminder that you stack shelves in Poundland and also have no experience in boxing or MMA.
Just a reminder that he used to DJ in Gatecrasher (you millennials might need to google it) BBC Radio 1 and Ibiza.
It was meant to happen in December 2022 and April 2023 but uysk walked. Put all the facts forward
. Instead of holding Tyson Fury accountable, Simon Jordan prefers to criticize the entire division. The AJ/Fury matchup was set to happen, but Fury's defeat in the arbitration case against Wilder changed the course of events. AJ initially accepts Fury's 60-40 offer, however, Fury later decides to rescind the offer in order to pursue a fight with Chisora. Fast forward to 2023: Fury unfairly offers Usyk a 70-30 split, despite Usyk holding 3 of the 3 belts. Is there any scenario that you can think of where a the fighter with three belts is being told that they should be satisfied with just 30%? Usyk called Fury's bluff by accepting that offer, but ultimately it was Fury who walked away from the opportunity to face him in the ring. The undisputed fight has been confirmed for December, with Fury set to face Ngannou. However, due to Fury's underwhelming performance in the fight, it is decided that the December undisputed fight will be rescheduled for February. Unfortunately, Fury sustains an injury and gets cut, which inevitably results in further delays for the undisputed fight. Everyone knows who is holding the entire division at ransom but Jordan and other Fury disciples would rather courts 'the heavyweight division' instead of calling out Tyson Fury for his Tom Foolery.
Feel bad for Spence people always talk over him.
Spencer Oliver is such a AJ fan boy it's insane.
Why oh why does everyone think the version that faced wilder beats usyk ffs its ridiculous
It's an absolute joke!!
@@bluemarvelous I was on a podcast this morning about it and they didn't get where I was coming from they just because he's such a puncher bare in mind he's never kod an elite heavyweight. Wilder and usyk are not even in the same league
I agree, they are two totally different styles.
You cannot walk through ngannou he is a 6'4, 19 stone man with good boxing knowledge and a good chin
Ngannou is not a boxer, though. Joshua should win comfortably.
@bladerunner16 yes win comfortably but not walk through him
How can we use an MMA guy walking into Boxing as a measuring stick to compare the 2020's to the 60's/70's when there weren't any MMA fighters to measure against?
This doesn't tell us that quality is worse as people love to reel off names from the Ali and Iron Mike era now, but weren't favourable to those names at that time either?!
It more tells us that Mixed Martial Arts is more transferable to Boxing than Boxing is transferable to Mixed Martial Arts.
i agree u can't use mma as a measuring stick, but u can use the weights and amount of fighters involved, heavyweights are far too big now which makes the pool of good fighters much smaller, meaning less fights, less worthy opponents, and less quality overall, imo. Nearly every other weight class has gone up in quality apart from heavyweight.
Yep. Simon loves to bring up the word "context" to assist his arguments but very often excludes it for many points he makes and he excluded it here.
Also heavyweights are bigger than they've ever been in this era. It's already a very dangerous division with the power that these guys punch at. Let's not pretend that past greats haven't been troubled by much lesser fighters before - Lewis with Rahman, Tyson with Douglas, Cooper putting Ali on the canvas.
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@jack28aug great point about the size of the heavyweights and how it effects the pool of athletes in the sport.
Also, boxing has slid down the sporting totem pole. The pay is much better and a safer bet in the NFL or NBA especially for the larger men. You could have 20 AJ's from the NFL and 10 Fury's from the NBA so the pool is generally smaller, although Usyk being a traditionally typical sized Heavyweight is showing boxing that you don't have to be oversized to win titles albeit being somewhat of an anomaly at this time. But good points!
@@joewhite22spot on. The way Simon and many others talk is like Boxers were flawless back in the day. They all had Flaws as they should and thats what makes it exciting to watch because you could never be too sure if A could beat B while B can beat C and C beat A. This is still relevant in the sport today and fighters who don't want to fight should be shamed publicly. Its by seeing everyone fight everyone with varying results which will determine how the era age's over time
"Best version of Fury"??
Is that the version that tested positive for nandrolone or the version that beat a proven hype job in Deyonte Wilder?? 😃..
Adam never questioned it, what he said was, I can understand why the public are questioning it. That's literally all he said
They're trying to make him the scapegoat, hoping Fury will lift the ban..
For fury to impose his size he needs to be close and usyk doesn't really fight that way. Good luck😂😂 and wilder isn't usyk 😂
Best episode of the lot, keep it going lads, love it. 👍
Catteral and talksport are gutted that they can’t cover fury fights Catteral was lucky to keep his job or will he he’s a very poor boxing pundit he’s local newspaper level he certainly isn’t up to commenting on professional boxing maybe amateur at best
Simons dismissing the fact that for years going all the way back to Ali vs inoki, people have always wondered who comes out on top across all combat sports.
Nnganou is a monster and fans from both sports are curious what would happen between these 2 titans !
It hasnt happend yet but i for one would like to see what drivers could compete in different cars, can hamilton rally round in a rally car and vice versa
Good to see Simon challenge Usyk’s last performance. It’s like people have forgotten that Usyk was very uncomfortable with Dubois at times because Fury was so poor against Ngannou. A fit, focused Fury should beat Usyk. Both are class fighters in their own right, just hope it goes ahead now
It just shows how bad this era is of heavyweights are compared to the past a mma guy can come close to beating the top guy
Although really he's not the top guy
I should of said one of the top guys
This is hilarious. Simon says RUclipsrs go around using other people’s content, yet they literally did that on White & Jordan today to get a response out of Nelson 😂
Unrealistic to think there won't be multi-world champions at the same weight class, sadly. Worse still are the rigged fights, terrible refs - Howard Foster etc.
Think far better episode with a guest who was in tip top form to bounce thoughts off
TALK SPORT HAVE COVERED BOXING BRILLIANTLY THEY HAVE DONE WAT OTHER PEOPLE CANT GET BOXERS IN A STUDIO GET THEN TALKING
It's good when these refer to the "casual" fan, when in fact... never mind
Wish the UK boxing press would stop referring to Tyson Fury as the 'so-called best HW of his era'. Says who? He hasn't beat all the top guys in his era so how can he be the regarded as the best?
Fury fanboys are literally praying Ngannou gives AJ hell because if he doesn’t and gets destroyed man’s reputation is truly in the toilet lmao.
You reckon mate, yeah? Does it come back out the toilet when he beats Usyk?
@@shitmonkyable No Uysk will finish him completely, probs why Fury keeps ducking him lol.
Fury’s resume was already weak but it’s absolutely in the mud since AJ battered Wallin and Parker peppered Wilder 😂😂😂
I am a nosey neighbour and not a lot of people know that simon
Simon referencing Larry Hagman from Dallas by mistake 😂
Spence for god sakes it was a low blow it’s been demonstrated so many times
Boxing itself is hugely reliant on clickbaite to sell it just look at the press conferences often 2 men shouting at each other I'll do this to you etc sometimes a punch or table thrown personal remarks too, yet they can't handle someone online saying they are lying or cheating or something 🤣 physical wealthy gladiators yes but insecure psychologically, the average person like myself would rather be called a knob in the comments section day and night by strangers daily online than have people trying to punch them in the face, ironic when you think about it 🤔 they get punched in the face for money but don't like negative stuff said online about them lol
I am not neccesarily saying what i am about to say is true, but... if you are a top echelon fighter, who can potentially make tens, or a hundred + millions, in 2 or 3 fights if you keep winning, yet maybe less if you dont, and you are not ready for a fight in a few weeks time, and the only way out of it (so you dont risk life changing money, and getting accussed of ducking a fight, by the fans, and more importantly, the guys paying your wages) is through a provable injury, maybe you could get a doctor to injure you, (in a minimum surgical way) and claim a training injury. There is a lot of wealth on the line, and it could change the course of your legacy and wealth, people would do it. Im not saying this is what happened, but it isnt impossible, especially with the wealth, expertise and power of some fighters. It didnt half look like a clean straight wound, and it may not look as bad as it is. I would cut my little finger off for 2 million £, so what would a person who is used to earning more than that, do? to earn 100 million £, with a far less injury. I would have Tysons injury done by a surgeon for 2 months wages alone.
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Adam is full of it. He knew he couldn’t accuse fury of faking the cut so he did it by proxy, paparazzi style, as in ‘it’s been said by some’. Adam is just a sour person and like Simon spouts the cliche ‘I’m just telling the truth’ but what truth you choose that focus on, that’s the thing
I can't watch this. That Catterall irritate me too much
Ngannou was training at boxing months b4 we heard or seen
I do not agree with the guys at all. Even if Tyson comes in great shape & Usyk at his best. It’s Usyk all day to win the fight. Usyk will stop him in 9/10 rounds
Is foxy bingo on the powder or what 😂😂😂 them eyes😂👀👀👀
The derogatory comment about RUclipsrs & click bait made me laugh when these guys are also making big money from the RUclips area!
Adams the best boxing pundit imo, he doesnt kiss ass and he gives opinions that represents the fans no matter if he upsets the big boys he should be respected as its rare
Ngannou kos Joshua.
Boxing is hit and not get hit. AJ working his way back and that is the way back after defeat. Simon should be required to take 3 months white collar boxing training experience.
I think AJ will destroy Ngannouu and make Fury look stupid
I think he'll win comfortably.
11:44 imagine thinking a punch that hits all trunks half of the glove burried in the crotch isn’t low, and the other shots were so low one even hit Usyk in the ass cheek
Usyk and Bivol have the same problem in their upcoming fights. They both do not have the power to stop their opponents from coming forward. Imagine Fury and Beterbiev being wary or scared of the power of Usyk and Bivol 😂😂😂😂 don't be stupid.
Simon . I ask you. Would FN beat AJs last 2 opponents . I think he would. So then AJ is stepping up
Hillarious double standards ...
Canelo has to fight benevides after fighting every top contender year after year but Fury and Aj can fight a ufc fighter while all the other ranked fighters sit there watching on complete joke... simon said it best how has boxing got to this point ....
Adam spitting fire in jeans and running trainees. Never change brother 😂
Spencer is so funny because all he does is repeat what’s already been said, and marks it off as brillaint 😂
Without spencer it's a monologue.
And gets paid for it 😂
Yess i've always noticed that! He cannot have his own opinion on things, its always copy & pasted.
Everytime😂
The video of Fury’s training session looks dubious. It looks like an old 10 years ago video taken with an amateur camera. The photo of d cut doesn’t impress me: there are softwares out there that a tech guy can use to create that photo. The whole story is shrouded in doubt & secrecy. Tyson Fury thinks we are mugs to believe his antics. Now it has dawn on him that USYK can cause him problems so he needs more time to adjust & figure out a strategy for d fight or better still dodge d fight absolutely by frustrating all parties involved. This fight may never come on again. Fury will be hoping that somewhere in between, someone comes out of d blue & beats USYK. But Usyk is very clever, currently none of d boxers around has what it takes to beat USYK.
Why does Anthony Joshua always get dragged onto the Fury and Warren naughty step like people just cant criticise those two and put a full stop to the sentence? You never hear Tyson Fury or Frank Warren getting dragged into AJ based criticisms.
And does Spencer Oliver ever say anything that hasnt been said in the previous 5 minutes when he says it?
Spencer Oliver has to go, no knowledge outside of the headline stuff and even then he can’t really give any meaningful insight
Simons hate for aj has rubbed off on Spencer
It's boring now. They are all boring. Just moaning for þhe sake of moaning
Yeh Spencer always says the obvious,too many clichés and is predictable,ok he was an ok fighter but unfortunately we didn't get to see how good and how far he could of actually gone..
@@mcwh1161 It throws me every time. I'm often left scratching my head thinking "didn't I just hear this opinion with a different voice?"
Glad talksport have someone on who can see past fury’s BS 😂
He’s not a boxer though, shame all these boxers defend Fury!
They should be spouting conspiracies like us lot do
Literally EVERYONE outside of talksport can see through it ; the fact only Adam says so is an indictment on the station
@@dontbewokei honestly dont think the fight happens, and simply pray it does
Nor do I , fury simply doesnt want it , he can't be bothered to do the hard yards he knows he needs to at his age
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Good to see someone on the show who doesn’t just claim “Fury is the best heavyweight and Usyk is too small” like Simon and Spence often do about the undisputed fight…
So you only like opinions that align with yours?
Seems a bit hypocritical.
I'm still waiting for a Usyk fan / Fury hater to give me a technical breakdown of how Usyk beats a fully fit and focused Fury
And what does he know about boxing Catrell was a felled footballer shouldn’t be allowed to talk about boxing because he knows nothing about it
Usyk has always deserved more respect than Spencer and Simon have been willing to give him. Imagine being Olympic gold medalist, unified cruiserweight world champion, current world champion at HW, unbeaten with supreme movement skill and fitness, only to be told you'll get "ragdolled by Fury" by Spencer.
@@joewhite22 imagine being a nobody in the chat telling other men who they should respect.
Fury will make sure he doesn’t have to turn up to the fight at all. He knows Usyk beats him all day long . Fury’s record is a con. You guys enable the whole delusion of Fury. Usyk is fighting everyone only fury is holding everyone to ransom. He should be stripped
I think Adam has been very fair and I appreciate this balanced view. He was voicing what the fans were thinking. It’s refreshing to be honest
He was voicing the made up fantasies of the Fury hating Rematch-room casuals in the chat, Adam is no better than a Flat Earther and nothing he said was fair or balanced, it was wild speculation based on conspiracy theories from the Fury hating chat 🤦♂️
Talksport sitting there talking about clickbait😂 the irony
Warren and the Fury’s are over reacting at the moment because they are guilty the whole cut thing stinks and it remains to be seen what Fury comes up with to get out of the May 18 date Fury faces a real challenge in Usyk and he is showing his real nature scared stiff he has duped the world of boxing and is not the great fighter he claims to be Usyk exposes him
"I've always thought Usyk was a nightmare for Fury" - as a listener of Fight Disciples of 4 years, I'm almost sure Adam's view on the fight was that he thought Fury was too big for him, and that Fury was the best in the world.
This is why this Var thing in boxing won't work a year later and 2 boxing people still can't agree if the Dubois punch was low or not
These three are ruining the boxing media
Simon doesn’t know that Francis is not only a giant solid beast of a man with a granite chin but he can box. He always wanted to be a boxer, trained early days as a boxer and worked only on his boxing when recovering from his leg injury. He has been training with a good team and has good footwork, unlike any of the other MMA fighters. Fury did underestimate him but he’s a decent boxer too
Simon should just organise a dinner between Catman and Bricktop. Always works for him.
Catterall is a muppet, that’s what the audience thinks 😂
Regardless of what you think of their opinions, fairplay to simon for backing adam! Thought it was a snakey move when Gareth A was slagging them off
Usyk is a nightmare for anyone!!
Stop saying Fury is the best of the generation without him having to prove it. 3 titles defences in 4 years against shot fighters doesn't cut it.
Fury gets himself up for big fights. Guess what so does Usyk.
Usyk wins 🥊
Klitschko would have beat fury in the rematch IMO, he wasnt mentally right in that fight. Wife had postpartum depression and got addicted to opioids. Everyone always gives fury excuse of not being mentally well, but Klitschko was clearly not all there in that fight which makes sense considering what he was going through and then fury ducked the rematch.
Adam and Spencer worst pundits in boxing 🥱
Ali fought in a crossover fight when he was heavyweight world champion and he also fought Spinks who only had 7 professional fights!! It's always been like this
Let it go adam. Sounding a hater nothing else mate.
Pray that Ngannou boxes like an all time great against AJ the fallout will be hysterical just like the Fury fight
Joshua will probably win in 6.
Yep Fury unifies and AJ sparked out then it settles a tonne of bets for me.
@@jasonjones3638I think AJ and Fury both win on points.
Will be interesting to see how AJ handles it when he gets cracked. At some point in that fight Ngannou will ask questions of him.
@@user-io1og3te6swill also be interesting to see how Francis handles it wen AJ smacks him “something people seem to forget” AJ is also a big banger with much better punch placement & can crack you with either glove
Beats a poor Wallin and thinks he's the king of the world 😂
Funny enough before the fight a lot of people including you said that Wallin was a Banana skin for AJ and now all of a sudden its a poor Wallin. Just be honest and admit that he beat Wallin better than Fury has
@@patriciakamulete6732 I didn't say Wallin was banana skin at all.
Regarding Usyk v Fury, I expect you to be having the same chat in May before moving on to preview the Usyk v Hrgovic bout.
AJ is going to try and get one over Fury and try and stop Ngannou - using that old mojo and stuff - and he'll get nailed.... And then all the horrible Andy Ruiz memories will come flooding back. A fighter is never the same once he's been stopped!
The End.
The Fury that turned up in the 2nd Wilder fight will beat Usyk ? so now their saying Usky’s foot work and boxing skills are just as bad as Wilder’s 🙄….this lot don’t have a bloody clue. By watching the Fury,Cunningham fight, i believe Usyk gets a points decision .
Wait a moment : in the fishy recording as soon as Fury is caught by an elbow, just one second after, Shane screamed " he is cut ! " And Sugar Hill screamed the same : " he is cut". There was no blood on the headgear, no blood on Fury's face, no blood on his white gloves after he supposedly wiped his forhead. How on earth could Shane and Sugar Hill could figure out he was cut? Why fans should not have questioned the validity of the cut since Fury himself previously accused David Haye of intentionally cutting himself ?
Disagree. There plenty of quality interviews and opinions on RUclips and other outlets. Best thing that’s happened to boxing is the move away from mainstream politically correct promotion and fighter bum licking. People call it out now where as in the past they couldn’t
I'm not a Tyson Fury fan but Simon Catterall was very quick to question the validity of the injury. Even if the fans question it if you're on the side of the fighters you shouldn't be questioning his boxing integrity live on air. If you do l, don't complain when you get backlash
If anyone beats Fury I hope the haters remind the guy hes only beat a nobody who beat nobodys 😂 Who ever beats Fury will be claiming there now the king, very strange.
Francis ngannou KOs aj and usyk. Beats fury all day long the mega fight will then be ngannou v usyk and usyk out boxes ngannou to become the best heavyweight since Ali