Zulu & Filipino Kali Stick Fighting
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This video is a comparison by Burton "Lucky Dog" Richardson of Zulu stickfighting and Filipino Kali stickfighting, and includes sparring footage of both methods. Burton visited Zulu villages in South Africa on four separate occasions, beginning in 1994, and he has learned a great deal of functional fighting techniques and principles from them. One move in particular is examined. This tactic is used often by the Zulus, and Burton includes the misdirection in his Battlefield Kali program.
When watching, please notice how often the Zulus laugh during sparring- especially after hitting Burton! Most of their sparring is done in a very good-natured way, and serves as a great lesson for all of those who want to develop a high level of fighting skill. Have fun sparring often!
A big thanks to all my Zulu friends! They are always very kind to me.
I want to include my sincere thanks to all my teachers, but especially to my guide since 1980 Tuhon Dan Inosanto. He is the most knowledgeable martial artist in the world, and he is incredibly generous with that knowledge which has taken a lifetime to garner. Maraming Salamat Po Tuhon!
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They really do have an amazingly rich culture. I am privileged to be able to work with them.
The strike hurts more with the sagila (Zulu stick) because of the weighted ball at the end. Lots of momentum!
The JKD concept is to research as much as possible, and I grew up with a great interest in African culture. It became apparent that African martial arts had not been researched, and were obviously very effective. I especially appreciate how the arts are used to build character as well as being a means for self defense.
FMA is a combination of Malayan, Hindu, Chinese, Japanese and even Spanish fighting technics. Maybe adding the Zulu would make it even deadlier.
The Zulu technics actually remind me of the Kalinga (Filipino Highlanders) ax and shield fighting.
Thank you for this window into another culture. This is the first time I've heard of African stickfighting, and I definitely liked what I see. Please don't stop whatever you're doing. We are all learning form your pursuit of Martial arts knowledge.
"All Warfare is deception."
Even in a one-on-one fight, you have to trick your opponent to bypass their defenses.
You are welcome. The African martial arts systems are as varied as the peoples of Africa. So many styles, from the roots of Capoeira to Zulu stick fighting (sometimes referred to as induku, which means 'stick') to Hausa boxing to Donga stick fighting, etc. Everybody had a self-defense/battlefield system. So vast.
Yes, true. They do have many set-ups, and the blow can be diverted to the elbow, head, or leg. But the good guys spar for quite awhile without anyone getting hit.
I have trained in saber fencing as well and have used the disengage there. I just happened to learn the move first from the Zulus back in the early 90's. Thanks for the comment.
Thank you Mr. Richardson for learning this art and showing the world one of the fighting arts from the continent of Africa.
@melasun07 Your ancestors were stick fighting, spear fighting, and doing empty hand fighting for many, many thousands of years. It is integral in the culture, not just for fighting, but to teach life lessons to the children. An amazing history.
It has been amazing. Each time I go back, they treat me like family. And, we have such a good time sparring. Laughing the whole time. Just like our JKDU and Battlefield Kali classes!
I briefly studied Eskrima as a kid while taking Kajukenbo. As an African American, never in my life would I have figured the Zulu's (some of the world's oldest known warriors) had a similar form of fighting. Almost makes me wonder which came first...
Thanks for this post. It's opened my eyes that much more to how all peoples are related.
Blessings.
Scott is definitely Awesome! He has trained for well over ten years and is very accomplished in several arts.
@littlbigd Very true! I was certainly surprised on my first visit to train with the Zulus. They are so skillful!
This is a wonderful contribution to all fellow martial arts. It demonstrates humility to even consider how other people do things. Much respect to Burton Richardson. I just found this video searching for FMA.
@bladesociety Same here. Heard that Zulus are fearsome warriors, but never actually seen their fighting method. This is very educational, and give me new ideas of how I can improve my stickfighting techniques. Thanks a lot Sifu Richardson!
@baya72 It is my pleasure- I am very grateful that my kind instructors were willing to share their amazing art with me.
@halfhausaman
So true. Africa is rich with martial culture. We have to preserve it before it is lost.
The wonderful thing is that Burton Richardson shares his knowledge with everyone for free on youtube. Whether you agree with his techniques or interpretation is irrelaent. We each study with as many sources as possible these days verses hundreds of years ago when warriors were trained only in their regional arts.
Before you think Im a groupie, with no disrespect to Mr. Richardson, I personally chose different styles and techniques to my own liking, but applaud Mr. Richardson for his dedication
This prinicple, that you are using, as in circumventing all weapon/shield blocks with a weapon, is that you create a tangent to the circumference of the defending object. Against circular shields you would create a tangent to the curve and you will always pass the shield if the opponent does not block further than he first anticipated. A stick is a straight line. If you extend a circle infinitely, for all intents and purposes the curve becomes a straight line. Therefore you can treat any straight line in the same way. For example in swordfighting, the duplerien beats a straight block because it forms a tangent to the defending sword in the second part of the cut. Simple but effective geometry.
Colin Richards Great use for geometry!
Yes, that is the idea. Keep it real as possible while maintaining safety. Those who want a more realistic feel can use less protection and spar with greater risk of injury. That teaches even more lessons, especially about emotional control, but isn't for everyone. Thanks.
Very cool video Burton. What an experience it must have been to train with the Zulu's. And even more impressive to have adapted their techniques to Battlefield Kali. Thanks for your constant search for improvement.
Yes, I believe that Doce Pares uses this more than any other FMA that I have trained in. Thanks for posting!
Holy cow. Scott Ishihara! Found this just surfing youtube. Awesome.
This is incredible Guru Burton! It makes me miss Kali! Thanks!
Yes, I was told specifically not to use it as we sparred. I was quite surprised at the end of my first week of sparring out there when one of the guys held up the defending stick, kicked at the bottom, and a cover came off that had concealed a spike! A little back-up, just in case. :)
Very Kool! I can't wait to try these techniques out!
Chris A
@bsumiko Thanks for your kindness. With the stick, the Zulus only hit, as the end is rounded. But they do use the punyo, and they also stab with the defending stick. (There is a sharp point hidden by a sheath that can be kicked off!). I saw one fight where the guys tied up, but not much mechanical disarming due to holding the shield and defending stick. They are very skillful!
Thank you. I am just amazed that more people have not studied these amazing and varied arts. So much to learn from Africa.
Yes. There are methods in the FMA that are similar to this strike. Because of the shield, the Zulus have developed it to a very high level.
You are welcome. The Zulus are really great.
You are welcome. I am very thankful for all the information that my instructors have given to me!
I see the protective equipment as a big benefit for those who want to spar realistically very often. It allows us to survive the mistakes and keep training. The BIG downside is that people often rely on the armor for their defense, absorbing blows in order to give back shots. That is not realistic at all, and is not the art.
Bruce Lee used PIA in many ways, including changing levels with kicks. We often use the PIA to start a Thai kick, and as the opponent lifts his leg up to shield, we redirect the kick to the groin which is wide open. Works GREAT, especially on trained opponents. Give it a try.
The defending stick represents a spear, part of traditional zulu arms, most probably an assegai.
Everybody knows that there are a ton of Asian martial arts traditions, styles, techniques, and so on. A lot of the older European styles are being rediscovered, and they are also sophisticated and, to put it bluntly, cool.
After watching several such videos, I wondered if anybody was preserving or rediscovering African or South American styles. I'm glad to see that the answer is yes.
Guro Richardson..you are a very good instructor..you are concise and to the point. .very clear.
Very Helpful, and so well explained!
This kind of exploration is wat puts JKD above the rest!!!
Thank!!! : )
5 stars of David*****!
@Tuckie825
You are welcome. I am glad it helped.
The shield is very similar to a buckler!
***** thanks
PigSticker I thought about that too, just goes to show how some techniques are just really practical as both Europeans and Zulus had came up with similar way of parrying though hundreds of miles apart. And same for the small shield in Sikh gatka.
MsDjessa so true
+MsDjessa
In my opinion, i think that's because every culture realized it's way more practical to carry as less stuff as possible and rely on technique to win fights
Steel Patterns Possibly. Interesting to think about any how.
Yes, I first studied with Tatang Ilustrisimo (also with Master Tony and Master Topher) in 1994.
Thank you. I have such a great example in Guro Dan Inosanto. He instilled in me that there is always much, much more to learn. Best to go out and find those gems.
Good Stuff Sifu/Guro Burton. We've met on several occasions. I'm also a student of Sifu Earl White, who as you know, is an avid researcher on African martial arts. He always speaks highly of you.
Great question- I have seen this sort of tactic in many different styles of FMA and other weaponry arts. I believe that those who spar end up in a position where the partner is good enough to block their strikes. They adapt and figure out ways around the defense. Same in empty hand fighting.
Rarely. Shaka Zulu introduced the iKwa (stabbing spear) for close range fighting. They also used axes!
@Kevpamluvr Glad you found it of interest.
EXCELENTE SIFU, GRACIAS por estos videos.
de Argentina.
Yes, this type of striking is use a great deal in the Caoy Doce Pares Eskrima System (Kurbada/Curbada) - curving strikes. The only slight difference is that we apply it at close range.
@christopheclugston The half-abanico does not work too well when using headgear, which is why we didn't use it much in Dog Brothers. Without protection it can cut.
@arnoldarceo You are most welcome. Keep putting that move to work!
awesome demo of two really effective arts!
Good question- It is the same motion, just getting the person to block outwards towards your left then dropping the stick over the top.
Major, full power blows with heavy rattan. I always advocate sparring as if there was no protection at all so that fighters don't rely on the helmets. (See my recent video about training with a live blade.) If you can, try going to a Dog Brother gathering and get some rounds in at that level of intensity. It is a very good training method, although dangerous.
Most interesting stick video ever!
It is a great way to learn! Notice also that the guys were kind enough to pull the shot. :)
In the Filipines that move is part of abanico. Think the Dog Bros integrated the move long ago (although their parent style was sans abanico).
That's great Rich. I have heard about the knife fighting in Capetown, but only saw a bit from a guy in Joberg who was from there. I would love to see your research. Thanks for posting.
This is an interesting type of martial art. Seems like it involves a lot of brain games and sudden switchups.
Yes- physical chess.
4:02 & 4:32 That is some awesome footage. It makes a little known martial art seam a lot more accessible.
You are welcome- yes, it is very interesting! And very functional as well, as it is still tested to this day.
Yes, nothing like trying to stay quick thinking and calm through the fog of excruciating and imobilising pain. If anyone can incorporate that 'real fight' aspect into weapons sparring, while still keeping it safe--that would be great.
@SteveB357
The Zulu stick has a ball on the end, so thrusting is not so effective. The Zulus thrust with the spear extremely well. We thrust often with the Kali stick.
Thanks. I'm glad you like the movie.
Wow, amazing video! I like the comparison, I wish they had a Kali school here.
@BurtonRichardson you are right about it being ideal, but so far we are training to do that and in competitions its working just fine, we just have to move fast enough and not get too tired. by the way the technique in this video works great, again thanks for posting it
@SteveB357 The more traditional forms of Kali use curving attacks. However, the more Spanish influenced forms involve a ton of thrusts. There are big differences between Kali and fencing that allow the curving styles to be equally effective.
Hi Guro Burton - very cool video, especially your showing how you spent time with the Zulu to learn their ways. The methods you describe are what Doce Pares SGM Cacoy Cañete refers to as curving strikes, though his approach is to use these strikes in the korto (short/close) range rather than the medyo range you show in your Battlefield Kali clip at the end. In fact, he refers to his personal methodology as "korto kurbada" (close curving) and is worth a look - it's the core of the Eskrima curriculum for our club. I've often referred to what you focused on most in this video as "forehanded backhands" or "backhanded forehands." They're terrific in that they're so deceptive.
Something you *might* appreciate: Having previously trained in Korean arts before finding the arts of my own heritage, the FMA, one of the P.I.A. kicking methods I would use was what I called a "rear spinning roundhouse."
By doing a few spinning back kicks, your opponent is conditioned to believe he can most safely defend by stepping and blocking inside the kick (toward the calf side of the leg as opposed to the shin). I would then rotate just a hair more, chamber my leg through the rotation and finish with the snap of a roundhouse to the side of the face or body my opponent previously thought was farthest away from the point of impact of the kick, thus creating the effect of feigning the typical FMA angle 2 to really deliver an angle 1 strike. A "backhanded forehand" kick. -=]
Respectfully (and appreciatively),
Marc Enriquez
Miami, FL
Thank you. Yes, the curved strike is used in many arts. The spinning to a roundhouse is also in Savate. When people spar/fight a lot, they figure out ways to get around the defense! Enjoy.
Isn't it? Thanks for posting.
Thank you for your comment- I agree 100%. Maybe an "amateur" division with more body armor or padded sticks, but feeling the wrath of rattan is an important part of understanding the art.
Yes- those clubs have been working well for many millennia!
Yes, that is the problem with having to wear helmets. Since we don't want to incur serious head trauma, we need to respect the stick and treat sparring as though we were fighting with no protection at all. If you get hit hard in the head, acknowledge it and back off instead of shooting or just trading. Grappling did occur in the stick fighting matches of old, but I'll bet that only the skillful stick fighters made it to the clinch.
Thank you for this knowledge.
there is so much more to be learnt from african combat systems.. especially in west africa.. there is a striking art very similar to muay thai and knife fighting and grappling arts
@Churchx77 In Dog Brother stick fighting we go 100% with heavy rattan sticks. These blocks work very well.
Yes, almost always inganyo (feinting).
@Mykelliah Good question- the abaniko is actually a stick motion, fanning back and forth. You can then use it as a combination, or start in one direction, switch midstream, and use it as a PIA.
Thanks for the comment. So much out there. We do need to preserve these arts as they tend to disappear as technology becomes more prevalent.
This is very good. Just what I've been looking for.
Yes, this is a comparison of Zulu stick fighting with Filipino Kali stickfighting.
Straight up I need to see more stuff like this....I get so tired of hearing about HARDCORE HARDSHIPS of Africa, I need to hear of the cultural arts.
It's interesting that all of the techniques your talking about with the zulu stick fighting are being used by members of the society for creative anachronism on a daily basis except the SCA fighters tend to hit a lot harder since their opponents are heavily armored and they discount light blows. The low block can also be done with the haft of something like an Axe and a good pair of metal gauntlets is probably better than using a buckler because it's makes grappling easier.
@mr007tycoon Some do. I certainly have, but we don't spar with them because of the obvious dangers with the heft. I do have people spar with both hands on the stick occasionally. Thanks for the comment.
@bladesociety Thank you, but let me assure you that it really is my pleasure!
Very interesting. Thanks for posting your information.
Just for interest sake. The Short Spear is call the iKwa because it is the sound it makes going in and out of a human body. The common name is a assegai. The stick you holding in your right hand is called a Knopkierrie or in English a Knobcane. Cool video
Very nice, very informative. I've been trying to find some decent stick fighting examples, but all I've seen either focus on relatively short sticks (like Kali), or a crook cane, or use it for grappling; fine, in and of itself, but I find strikes to be more reactive and useful in a defensive situation. As a Kali instructor, how well would you say Kali techniques would translate to a longer stick (say 36")?
the stance is like western boxing but with sticks and shield. power hand in the rear as opposed to the bai jong jeet kune do stance. fascinating!
great video! thumbs up!
thank you for posting this video, it is indeed very informative. I strongly consider the technique you have shown here. However, the defense fighters use here in the Philippines is very different. Most of the time it is better not block the attack instead make a small movement so your opponent would miss and at the same time launch a counter-attack. In this case, it would be easier to do the counter since the attacks are somehow telegraphed, the movements are too big. it takes longer to land.
Glad you like it.
Wow great work!! Learnt a lot! Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
@ChishioAme Good question. Most of the outside techniques translate very well. When you get into the clinch, the length of the stick can become a hindrance. But, the great majority of the art is about hitting while not being hit! A person striking effectively with a long stick is very difficult to close on.
@noloferratus Most Kali teachers do not spar. The great thing about SCA is that they do try it out. That is the most important aspect of training.
@noloferratus Actually, and unfortunately, most Kali instructors have very little sparring experience. That is why sparring with rattan with very little protection is so helpful. I am one of the original Dog Brothers, and we found that we could take major blows without being stopped. We also found that certain targets were extremely effective. While very dangerous, going with very little armor is the best test.
Great video and great instruction!
Awesome! Very helpful and well-described.
Correct- those who spend enough time sparring/fighting will find ways to get around good defense.
You are welcome.
great! i saw ur movie with ronrick and its a good movie.. i actually gave my cousin a copy of it..not pirated huh! hehehe!! keep it up sir!
@zane230 Actually, it is the Zulu stickfighting from South Africa, the QuaZulu Natal region. You may be thinking of the "Sulu" region of the Philippines.