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in my opinion wuthering wave is actually good but only somepart from CBT that we don't wish to be remove like scar intro CBT already show up much more pyscho than official launch but the feedback nerf scar intro and gacha system you don't have to compare it too much for being ghensin like even other gachas also do the same thing😮💨 and story line you just need to enjoy it no need to feel negative just chill
After the release of WUWA, I am actually more reassured with how Endfield might turn out. Arknights Endfield is not gonna be as hype as WUWA since it isn't "open world action RPG". But rather Endfield already seems to have a better idea of what it wants to be and with the game being more "niche", it also probably will have a smaller and (hopefully) wholesome community.
Arknights Enfield will be very similar to the paradigm system from FF13. Reason I say this is because the classes they utilize ressemble very much like those in ff13. Synergistic. Medics. Commandos. Ravages. Sentinels. Sabatour.
Wuwa Biggest Mistake Is When They Removed The Crownless Scene 🤡: Th Crownless Is Super Powerful. Yet He Was Defeated So Easily Causing 0 Dmg To Anyone The Story Was Lame & Illogical For Example (Yinlin story) She Used Full Electricity On Him As She Said. I Mean He Could D!E There & Yet Still He Helped Her To The End. Why'd He Even Help Her!?
There has never been such a thing as a [game] killer. There was no Halo killer. There was no WoW killer. And just the same, there won't be a Genshin killer. Even were Genshin to have been upended 100% by Wuthering, it would not have remotely come close to killing Genshin, because the game would still have its own audience who prefer it anyhow.
Nobody wanted WuWa to be a Genshin Killer bro, it's a terrible narrative made up by Genshin fans who hate their own game yet cant' stop playing it. You can also skip the whole Scar fetch quest by just attacking him.
@@warcatbattalion Yeah sure and PGR is a Honkai Impact clone. I'm of the opinion they take what works and make it better, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
WuWa is great but definitely takes a bit too much from Genshin to the point it holds the game back, but I have a lot of faith it’ll get better as time goes on. PGR I’d say takes a lot less from HI3 then WuWa does from GI. I have a special spot in my heart for HI3, but PGR and HI3 do different things better. HI3 has more team oriented gameplay and is more story driven while PGR has less focus on the other allies in the party but a much more snappy combat experience with the on field character. And it works. It helps give the game its own unique gameplay and identity. (Forgive me if my assessment is a bit shaky, I only ever played the beginning of PGR since I didn’t want to have two hack/slash gachas at once.) It feels like with WuWa it’s the same, but they try too hard to do the same things Genshin does and it just doesn’t work as well. That said, I’m having a blast with WuWa and looking forward to how it’ll solidify its place in the gaming and gacha circles AFTER the fire dies down.
"insult to Disney" my brother in Gacha, Disney has set the bar of low is more ways than one. If anything, it's an insult to the game for comparing it to Disney
I think i can throw him a bone and assume he meant CLASSIC Disney. Story wasn't the worst though. At the start it is cringe, there's no question about that. But I managed to enjoy as it went on. Would like to say act 7 was a blast of cool.
The game is in a 1.0 state lmao and then the gaming community wonders why is the whole industry in such a sorry state, the player base is pretty much impossible to satisfy
agree to disagree. I see your point but receiving a half baked product and saying 'oh it'll probably be fixed in the future' is a bad industry standard. We actively need to fight against that.
A game shouldn't even be released if it's not finished, this is not an excuse no matter what kind of games they are. This mindset will only give these corps more and more reason to NOT finish their game and release it when it's not ready. Yes they can patch a bug or two that goes unnoticed prior to testing but the state of WuWa now is not just that, the amount of problems they have should have their game be pushed back by atleast 3 months, 6 to be safe. Some people say that genshin's 1.0 also have problems but isn't that more reason to NOT have as much let alone MORE problems at launch? Learn from their mistakes. It's really concerning that many people excuse the lack of polish by saying "it'll be fixed".
We get a higher chance to get updates and changes from Kuro rather from Hoyo, I personally don't like that their mostly listen to CN and JP community. I enjoy, yet it has those flaws to become a clone. Really wish that WuWa will create their own community rather pleasing everyone. PGR and Blue Archive has they ups and downs and despite being degenerate/skill issue, I hardly feel any backlash from them. Just be your own thing and accept losses so we can go on and enjoy it.
Agree with pretty much everything, but... It's worth pointing out that the more popular a game is, the more "haters" it will have as well. Performance issues and story aside, one of the main reasons why WuWa atracts so much negative attention is the fact that it atracts a lot of attention, in general. (Whether from people who build overly high expectations, or from people who haven't grown out of the "Mario x Sonic" mentality and are "rooting" for WuWa's competitors.) But yeah, I would personally rather they stop trying to please everyone and just stick to their own vision. As a rule of thumb, trying to please everyone at once makes things feel bland. Although it's worth pointing out that making a game too niche would limit the potential size of the playerbase, and things I consider bland are often incredibly popular and profitable, so... from a business standpoint, It's hard to say what's the best decision. Well, direction aside, I have confidence that WuWa will quickly improve in the "level of polish" and performance departments.
Look I love WuWa and I think it’ll be the next step up from genshin once we give it more time but all the WuWa fanboys in the comments can’t even take the little criticisms this guys makes💀. Its literally just gonna be a repeat of Genshin all over again at this rate.
We appreciate constructive criticism but he was barely doing any of that he was nitpicking like the clown he is. This video aged like milk because WuWa 1.1 is far from mid.
I do respect constructive criticism, but did you watch his video? its not that BAD to the lower levels but its not even good opinion without understanding what type game is this, just saying🤷♂
Good video man! I only want to point something out, talking about a Genshin Killer is stupid and useless, there's no game that could ever achieve that and Wuwa did better than anyone could hope for, the truth is only when we'll have 4/5 gacha open world games Genshin will not be the top of the mountain anymore, when players have to decide which game to spend their time on for the next few years they will abandon Genshin like a hot potato, if Azur Promilia and NTE will be decently good like Wuwa is they will take a good chunk of bored players from Genshin and we'll finally see some real shift, I think in 1 year Genshin's supremacy will end, even sooner if the games are really good, but make no mistake, there's no game that could kill Genshin alone, and the only reason these new games have a chance at all is because Genshin devs are clowns, if Genshin had Kuro's dev team the game would be unstoppable for the next 10 years
I just hope Azur Promilia can safely protect itself from focken toxic GI stans, tourists and normies... Gatekeeping isn't a solution, it is a question and the answer is YES...
Gatekeeping is not an easy task, even the community with strongest gate in the industry like Blue Archive still let the tourists who hate the game the way it is such as as localizers and official discord mods slips in. It only a matter of time before the gate of BA community completely fall.
About the 120 fps thing there actually is a 120 fps option but kuro disabled it cause it was apparantly buggy, but you can still manually enable it through some file editing if I remember correctly.
the bottom line is that the developers presented it as a feature and ended up shitting themselves, but in the end you need to go somewhere for some reason...
Most Genshin fans might be on the same level as Goku fans, they see another open world gacha game and rush to the conclusion if said upcoming game can beat Genshin. Then they proceed to call any game that might get attention as a "Genshin Killer" and feel threatened by the existence of another game. Not to mention the love hate relationship the Hoyo team for Genshin has for their fans outside of CN, doing the bare minimum and only listening when CN complains. Not saying Genshin is the worst thing out there, other than the gacha system and fear of missing out that keeps players glued. But I do think Wuwa a year from now will improve way faster than Genshin did in the past 3 years.
Oo brother. I've played since launch. It's gone downhill. But let me tell you a secret. The game is intentionally made the way it is because it is meant for kids. Mr John has even stated that the game is intentionally made for kids in mind, which is why most things are censored. So when you look at it with that perspective, you begin to acknowledge that you won't get what you're looking for in genshin. As that is not its main goal.
Omg yes, the way you say "WuWa" makes much more sense because the "Wa" part came from Waves... The largest reason why I prefer using WW instead of WuWa As for Promilia, honestly I hope the farming sim is the major focus just to gatekeep the toxic part of the "open world gacha game players"... Or at least hoping that NtE will be the lamp that attracts those moths.
the problem in MY OPINION which NO PROFFESIONAL is that many Gaming company tried to copy the same thing legend of zelda let's be honest genshin ,tower of something and others all either a sub version or a direction version of zelda and the other problem is lack of original Gaming platform (what mean these Games doesn't have their own characteriatics ) for example Arknights everyone knows it's a plants VS zombie 2.0 ,girls frontline tactical operation with gun girls ,azur lane is ship girl shooting targets ,nikke butt shaking shooting ,but what I find it Lacking is they're atleast have a different platform ,looking while genshin ,Tower of fantasy and wuthering waves are basicly the same but with a little artstyle color switch IN short make a helldivers for phone with cut anime girls
Well azur promilia is not for everyone. I tell it as player played survive game and collect creature, it more like palworld. You will only see villain after very long game release. But this thing will undefeatable like azur lane. Because you know, eldricht god is never defeatable.
Gotta love that the more you play different gacha games the more you see this period when a game starts off where they have to figure out how to do the story. I remember starting Azur lane early on and getting to the part where anime Hood sinks again and not finding any story after that so I decided to the event at that time and it ends up just being a Siren simulation and I don’t even remember if they told us they could make simulations.
My problem with Wuthering Waves isn't necessarily the weapon gacha, but the division of the weapons into 5 categories. Honkai: Star Rail moved away from that; there's still light cones, but at least the weapons are all varied and unique (one is even a hat). Punishing: Gray Raven, which was also made by Kuro Games, also has a great variety of weapons. On the other hand, WuWa feels more restricted. Sure there's characters like Jiyan, who uses a spear in his moveset, but why not have a character that only uses a spear. There's some fun weapons in PGR that could have been super fun to play in WuWa like Karenina: Scire's blast (Jet) hammer or Watanabe: Epitaph's pioneer blade (basically a cutlass + gun). I like double pistols, but I feel like there's gonna be a lot of double pistol users in Wuwa as the game ages...
I mean, Azur Lane is most likely going to do its own thing and give the finger to everyone else. They honestly probably dont care if they get called some game killer or something. Which is good because they will listen to what needs to be listened to and not worry about satisfying everyone. Azur Lanes' story isn't that complex. Once you understand the hidden bits, it begins to all make sense and where the story stands. Right now, it is finally reaching its climax. Finally, moving forward with their story and establishing what will happen now. Dont know how they will handle APs story, but most likely its going to its own thing.
I agree. 1. Many people think that BA or Nikke story is good, because simply it's easier to understand. In Chinese games, they really like to use verbose and long words. For example in WuWa case, they use Tacet Discord for saying monster. I think you should just use one word to describe it, heck they always abbreviated it to TD later. And holy shit, the process of formation of something (Tacet field?) is really crazy. It's like explaining addition in math, then substraction (I can still follow this), then multiplication (they lost me here). This is happened with HSR too. It's crazy to me that I've missed many things in Herta Space Station when I read summary of this chapter. 2. Weapon banner is really sucks. I prefer skin gacha, because I don't care about the shape of weapon or a pic(like Light cones, memory, or craft essence). From Azur Promilia leak(still unclear for it's authenticity), there will be none, but finger crossed. It's great if they don't have it, but I won't be disappointed if they have it. Sadly if they have it, it will be like Light cone where there won't be visual effect whether you use it or not. 3. I really hope they do leaning to fanservice. The current rating is 12+ so I didn't expect much. But rating can be changed easily, and I hope that time will come sooner. 4. I almost forgot about this. But I really hope they don't do Eng dub, because it's likely to be bad. I know there is good English dub, like in warriors franchise (I particularly like Gundam warriors). But I don't know whether this is worth the effort, because Manjuu still doesn't have experience in this, and if they hire Eng dub like Mihoyo, then I don't want it because it's lacking for me.
Dissgree with take 3 , faservixe in a game that is meant to catch a broader audience grom the get go is bad , unless said fanservice comes from not only female charscters wich is very very unlikely , also i don't eant this game to end like Snowbreak 2.0 , a game that started with a similar premise but ended up becoming a cringe harem story that defies the age ratings on play store , look at how cn feedback ruined prologue and now imagine if the whole game was like thaf
@@lovelessshoot883 If this game isn't "harem cringe story" then it won't succeed. Any "broader audience" has been captured by Genshin. It's stupid to fight Genshin in its home turf.
@@lovelessshoot883 Snowbreak was nearly EOS before it switched to more fanservice so idk what your point is there. Now it's doing fairly well for itself.
@@rairotaichou1861 Agreed, Azur Promilia won't be a "Genshin Killer" like many CCs on this site claimed, instead of trying to get "broader audience" and compete with Genshin or Wuwa, Manjuu choose to catering to the audience they already have and doing what they do best.
@lovelessshoot883 Azur lane devs dont care about the other companies, and they don't care about wanting to be on toe with the others. They will most likely stick with the community they already have and continue to build from there. Azur lane, just like nikke, is known for its fanservice. (From skins) The game is technically 12+, but you look at axur Lane, and I believe it's rated T in the playstore. Yet it's clearly not the case as the skins are basically a thread of being literal M rated hentai. I really doubt Azur primilia is going to hold back.
Well it more like survive game. Go outside steal egg, gather material, kill kibo to develop your base. Then your resource use to develop character and kibo. Also you can ride and fight with your pet.
It's really a shame that cbt1 of WuWa has a way more unique identity and a different take on the story. The Ui. While the UI placement is pretty similar to genshin's, the way it looks is pretty unique and different and looks identical to their other game PGR. Now? It just looks like Genshin's UI recolored. Story. Cbt1's story introduction made me hooked on the story way more than the entirety of act 1 - act 6. Yangyang first impression on Rover is suspicion, seeing how a mysterious person who ended up in their country and lost their memory somehow are able to fight so skillfully without breaking a sweat. How chixia points a gun at rover after defeating AND absorbing crownless, seeing them as a potential threat and baizhu also treating us coldly. From this alone i could understand and invested in the story without too much expositions, the reason behind their suspicion is also logical for me so i can understand from their perspective and after being showed a little bit of Rover's past after absorbing crownless i got interested in their past and gives me a small context on why they might be that strong in the first place. It's a shame that they advertised this game as a "post-apocalyptic world" yet the characters and story seems so happy-go-lucky, they actually made the world more vibrant than in cbt1 which is not a dealbreaker for me but it really doesn't set the tone for a post-apocalyptic world doesn't it? I've been hyped for this game since the day they first announced it, i already made up my mind since the first time i saw a gameplay footage. The way we can wall run, the absolutely satisfying combat mechanics complimented by the crisp sound design, the darker and less vibrant tone of the world, the amazing boss designs. It has the potential to be a great open-world action rpg rivalling Genshin but as of now? I have to say that it is still that, *potential*.
Same man, especially cuz i finally had time to try PGR this year and i loved it, revived the spark i had in 2019/2020 hi3 when we actually had to dodge and manage energy of the chars. And not just the Ui, they even copy pasted all the genshin currencys, just with dif icon & gear farming can be somewhat worse but thats cuz of low lvl now, might be better at UL +50 in tfields (but thats like month and half of daily playing lol). Game will def be better 1y from now because they gonna be up against end story genshin and all the new OW gachas, but by that time i might be more interested in the new ones lmao. At least pgr is still cool, even casual i see myself playing it for years
People called me ''hoyo fanboy'' for saying I don't expect kuro to write good stories after I played 1 hour of that hot yapfest garbage of grey raven and quit. And yes, THE action gameplay is GOOD, they have their due talent or vision or whatever you wanna call it for combat and is fun, but the stories they write omg is so cringe, childish and lame. I just skip all I could and now I'm acc lvl 38 having fun with the boss battles, just don't wake me up when more story arrives I don't give a fuq.
i strongly disagree with the punishing gray raven part since its objectively a genuinely well written story with actual character developements. But as of wuwa, (if you play in english) i can see why its bad from the get go anyway, story do get interesting after act 5-6, but thats about it. Just quick point out to let this one be fair, genshin's 1.0 story too was hot garbage (and honestly still is since they have 0 balls and always stay kid friendly) this seem to be a trope with all gacha games except some few games like honkai star rail.
@@assil555 yeah I havent played genshin because I was already playing Gakuen 2 and Houkai 3. Didn't want to add another gacha and when I saw that genshin story deviated from houkai lore I lost interest completely. On the grey raven part, I've heard the story gets good later but damn it was painful to keep on and got tired. at least wuwa let me skip almost everything and just fight.
@@TheOtherSideCh yeah i understand how the first parts where a pain. But the more the story went one the more the writers started to go completely nut and put right to your face how hopeless the earth they're trying to reclaim is, i cant forget some actual wicked shit they show in it like killing childrens or having someone get corrupted and end up eating his living crying mother and describe it all brutally💀 now if wuwa gets as dark as that...
I don’t know I never had a major problem with the game Works on my phone well or as well as if can work giving mobile limitations It works on my pc wonderfully Some issues I have with the game seem to be getting addressed
Imagine expecting a month old game to be perfect at release. No game is perfect without bug/glitches. Technically WW team devs are new team unlike PGR team devs who had experience from there mistakes and now look at the PGR now had become it become better.. I agreed with you with that EN Dub being SUCC.
@@karst1559Genshin wasn't original to begin with. When it was first released it was a BOTW copy and much worse. Now look at it now, it has its own identity.
@@MonLyica there's nothing wrong with copying good ideas, Chinese people had always done that anyways. But at least slightly change your version, make it a bit different. The "life" bars of the minerals in wuwa are identical to those in Genshin, and this is just an insignificant example. They just copied with no shame.
@@karst1559 PGR was basically the same as Honkai Impact and now the game looks nothing like how it did when it released. Right now were in the beginning stages of Wuthering Waves, once we go through new patches it will definitely stand out from Genshin. It's the future of Wuthering Waves that majority of people are looking forward to, you're thinking too much of what it currently is.
Wuthering waves is a great success though, but it’s not for people who have low spec devices if you have the juice the gameplay alone is leagues above any game out there on mobile
They do. Compared to other gachas, they have the most forgiving systems of any. From what they started of to now. You just need to grind, and you'll be guaranteed to get what you want. (Except pulls of. Course. But that changed too recently with a new guaranteed system for URs)
Manjuu player actually never care about story, they will play their game as long as they keep faithfull to their core audience Also making good story with all female gacha character kinda difficult, your vision are restricted by gender target market
Bro speaking as if the game fell off when its literally the top grossing CURRENTLY in both Japan and China after 3 weeks of launch 💀 Like lil bro WHO are you taling to? Every game will copy another game that does not make it bad nor a failure. LoL is still the best MOBA there is and copied everything down to CHARACTER DESIGNS from DOTA. As the years went on they developed their own individuality (and less character clones like im serious the 1.0 League characters were an embarrassment) and grossed an audience even larger than the game they copied. Everyone with this take is just gonna get embarrassed in the future so I'ma let yall speak lmfao.
i just hate it when they force me play characters i dont care about in storyline quests because i hate their weapons and gameplay especially that blue haired guy with the lance damn i hate his gameplay i prefer to explose my way through the game with Encore!!!!
Proceed to be very dishonest. The game add new features and mechanics with every new nation so it is never going to be outdated. It may seems to be outdated to you but yeah that game is still holding the top position with unhinged fanbase,wuwa haven't really done Anything worthwhile in gacha industry to dethrone it. Neither it affected it's popularity nor its playerbase. Only thing it did is just existing as a new game of same genre. It is also too early to judge since genshin is 4 year old and wuwa currently has its newly released buff going on. Wuwa had its global sales more than Chinese sales which is concerning since china sales matter most, Chinese always buys more than global hence profitable.
it already got off to a bad start by having a cast of only playable female characters, every game that does this gets a reputation as "content for disgusting otakus", no normal person wants to be associated with that, Much of genshin's success is also due to it being a less intimidating game for normal and casual peoples I don't even know why you guys keep saying things like "I'm afraid the genshin fans will start attacking the game" if this game goes down that road they'll have essentially different audiences
That's the best kind of start, better gatekeep the game from the casuals and normies that thinks of such games that way; they're the reason why Genshin only has trash mini-games in events and a joke of an endgame. Plenty of games are still successful maintaining smaller and more niche markets. Azur Lane and Blue Archive are massively successful to this day, has way better endgame content than 3 years of Genshin garbage, and don't bother appealing to everyone in the world with a mobile phone. Hope Azur Promilia follows suit.
@@TicTacTaro-oq9kh I hope that Azur Promilia also follows suit and continues to be successful within its niche and never leaves there, I don't want us, normal people, to be associated with this type of content that is so blatantly pedophile. I want Genshin to be better, yes, but without me feeling like I'm having fun with criminal otaku content.
Yeah but people who are fans of that content don’t care what the casual fans think long as they keep it to themselves. Hoyoverse fans just have a bad habit of getting into other fandoms and complaining about stuff that even seems a little too “anime” or “waifu bait” or fan service like their overblown reaction to the bunny costumes of Nikke.
How well the gameplay is built even the bad story dosent feel bad..its the opposite in genshin..good story dogshit gameplay in wuwa i personally dont have that many problems as of now as doing story quests and stuff dosent feel even CLOSE to as bad as doing archon quests in genshin
there's no genshin killer and there wil never be, WoW has been up for 20years and we've been saying WoW killer every year for the past 15years, even when blizzard have been shitting themselves for 7 consecutive years. The reasoning is very simple, blind loyalty and nostalgia for the "good old days". doesn't matter how amazing, how perfect Azure promilia or Einfield or even wuwa in the future is going to be they will NOT be the genshin killer. in many regards FF XIV is objectively a much better game than wow will ever be, but guess what still not a wow killer. the same thing will hapen with genshin.
When you look at yostar and the two different devs. They clearly dont care about the drama the other communities have. Blue archive exists and they do their own things. Azur lane, Arknights, Nikke. They all do their own things. They decided to follow a similar idea of making an open world game. (Which BTW azur lane: crosswave existed before genshin even existed. Its semi open world and their take at a 3d shooter following their own core gameplay. ) I saw endfield, and it is basically similar to FF13 in the paradigm system. Promilia follows some aspect to palworld but most likely will do their own thing with completely different gameplay and gacha system. I mean, these two devs are building on what they already have. They want their community to try out their new games and see if they enjoy it. Not worrying about some BS drama from others.
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in my opinion wuthering wave is actually good but only somepart from CBT that we don't wish to be remove like scar intro CBT already show up much more pyscho than official launch but the feedback nerf scar intro and gacha system you don't have to compare it too much for being ghensin like even other gachas also do the same thing😮💨 and story line you just need to enjoy it no need to feel negative just chill
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After the release of WUWA, I am actually more reassured with how Endfield might turn out. Arknights Endfield is not gonna be as hype as WUWA since it isn't "open world action RPG". But rather Endfield already seems to have a better idea of what it wants to be and with the game being more "niche", it also probably will have a smaller and (hopefully) wholesome community.
they gonna be meta slave in factory building. lol
The factorio junkies are not to be underestimated.
Arknights Enfield will be very similar to the paradigm system from FF13.
Reason I say this is because the classes they utilize ressemble very much like those in ff13.
Synergistic. Medics. Commandos. Ravages. Sentinels. Sabatour.
Wuwa Biggest Mistake Is When They Removed The Crownless Scene
🤡: Th Crownless Is Super Powerful.
Yet He Was Defeated So Easily Causing 0 Dmg To Anyone
The Story Was Lame & Illogical For Example (Yinlin story) She Used Full Electricity On Him As She Said. I Mean He Could D!E There
& Yet Still He Helped Her To The End. Why'd He Even Help Her!?
There has never been such a thing as a [game] killer. There was no Halo killer. There was no WoW killer. And just the same, there won't be a Genshin killer. Even were Genshin to have been upended 100% by Wuthering, it would not have remotely come close to killing Genshin, because the game would still have its own audience who prefer it anyhow.
I think what people mean by kill is be the most popular of its genre not to kill the player base
@@drinkswatereya i think its more like dethrone genshin from the no 1 spot, not really talking about their respective playerbase
is anyone going to mention the way he pronounces “WuWa”😭
“WuWay”💀
Nobody wanted WuWa to be a Genshin Killer bro, it's a terrible narrative made up by Genshin fans who hate their own game yet cant' stop playing it. You can also skip the whole Scar fetch quest by just attacking him.
The devs wanted it to be since it's almost a 1-1 genshin clone. Borderline plagiarism.
@@warcatbattalion Yeah sure and PGR is a Honkai Impact clone. I'm of the opinion they take what works and make it better, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
@@warcatbattalion Lies.
@@warcatbattalion Yeah and Genshin wanted to be BoTW so bad 🤣
WuWa is great but definitely takes a bit too much from Genshin to the point it holds the game back, but I have a lot of faith it’ll get better as time goes on.
PGR I’d say takes a lot less from HI3 then WuWa does from GI. I have a special spot in my heart for HI3, but PGR and HI3 do different things better.
HI3 has more team oriented gameplay and is more story driven while PGR has less focus on the other allies in the party but a much more snappy combat experience with the on field character. And it works. It helps give the game its own unique gameplay and identity. (Forgive me if my assessment is a bit shaky, I only ever played the beginning of PGR since I didn’t want to have two hack/slash gachas at once.)
It feels like with WuWa it’s the same, but they try too hard to do the same things Genshin does and it just doesn’t work as well.
That said, I’m having a blast with WuWa and looking forward to how it’ll solidify its place in the gaming and gacha circles AFTER the fire dies down.
"insult to Disney" my brother in Gacha, Disney has set the bar of low is more ways than one. If anything, it's an insult to the game for comparing it to Disney
I think i can throw him a bone and assume he meant CLASSIC Disney. Story wasn't the worst though. At the start it is cringe, there's no question about that. But I managed to enjoy as it went on. Would like to say act 7 was a blast of cool.
Did you play the 1.1 update stories yet? They improve... A LOT!
i dont think theres a game that can kill another game, games usually died by itself because of there creators decisions
Wuwa killed genshin there u go
@@EncoreBestiGenshin impact was already kinda dead before Wuthering waves tho
The game is in a 1.0 state lmao and then the gaming community wonders why is the whole industry in such a sorry state, the player base is pretty much impossible to satisfy
agree to disagree. I see your point but receiving a half baked product and saying 'oh it'll probably be fixed in the future' is a bad industry standard. We actively need to fight against that.
the fact that people are now okay that games are releasing half baked products is very concerning
A game shouldn't even be released if it's not finished, this is not an excuse no matter what kind of games they are. This mindset will only give these corps more and more reason to NOT finish their game and release it when it's not ready. Yes they can patch a bug or two that goes unnoticed prior to testing but the state of WuWa now is not just that, the amount of problems they have should have their game be pushed back by atleast 3 months, 6 to be safe.
Some people say that genshin's 1.0 also have problems but isn't that more reason to NOT have as much let alone MORE problems at launch? Learn from their mistakes. It's really concerning that many people excuse the lack of polish by saying "it'll be fixed".
@@olchum7605 i haven't encountered a single bug during my whole playtime (ul 33)
@@unknownguy6451 0 bugs encountered (ul 33)
We get a higher chance to get updates and changes from Kuro rather from Hoyo, I personally don't like that their mostly listen to CN and JP community. I enjoy, yet it has those flaws to become a clone.
Really wish that WuWa will create their own community rather pleasing everyone.
PGR and Blue Archive has they ups and downs and despite being degenerate/skill issue, I hardly feel any backlash from them. Just be your own thing and accept losses so we can go on and enjoy it.
Agree with pretty much everything, but... It's worth pointing out that the more popular a game is, the more "haters" it will have as well.
Performance issues and story aside, one of the main reasons why WuWa atracts so much negative attention is the fact that it atracts a lot of attention, in general. (Whether from people who build overly high expectations, or from people who haven't grown out of the "Mario x Sonic" mentality and are "rooting" for WuWa's competitors.)
But yeah, I would personally rather they stop trying to please everyone and just stick to their own vision. As a rule of thumb, trying to please everyone at once makes things feel bland. Although it's worth pointing out that making a game too niche would limit the potential size of the playerbase, and things I consider bland are often incredibly popular and profitable, so... from a business standpoint, It's hard to say what's the best decision.
Well, direction aside, I have confidence that WuWa will quickly improve in the "level of polish" and performance departments.
looking forward to wuwa in a year from now
1.1 and Wuwa slaps harder than Genshin
Look I love WuWa and I think it’ll be the next step up from genshin once we give it more time but all the WuWa fanboys in the comments can’t even take the little criticisms this guys makes💀. Its literally just gonna be a repeat of Genshin all over again at this rate.
We appreciate constructive criticism but he was barely doing any of that he was nitpicking like the clown he is.
This video aged like milk because WuWa 1.1 is far from mid.
I do respect constructive criticism, but did you watch his video? its not that BAD to the lower levels but its not even good opinion without understanding what type game is this, just saying🤷♂
Good video man! I only want to point something out, talking about a Genshin Killer is stupid and useless, there's no game that could ever achieve that and Wuwa did better than anyone could hope for, the truth is only when we'll have 4/5 gacha open world games Genshin will not be the top of the mountain anymore, when players have to decide which game to spend their time on for the next few years they will abandon Genshin like a hot potato, if Azur Promilia and NTE will be decently good like Wuwa is they will take a good chunk of bored players from Genshin and we'll finally see some real shift, I think in 1 year Genshin's supremacy will end, even sooner if the games are really good, but make no mistake, there's no game that could kill Genshin alone, and the only reason these new games have a chance at all is because Genshin devs are clowns, if Genshin had Kuro's dev team the game would be unstoppable for the next 10 years
I just hope Azur Promilia can safely protect itself from focken toxic GI stans, tourists and normies... Gatekeeping isn't a solution, it is a question and the answer is YES...
Gatekeeping is not an easy task, even the community with strongest gate in the industry like Blue Archive still let the tourists who hate the game the way it is such as as localizers and official discord mods slips in. It only a matter of time before the gate of BA community completely fall.
And from WW fanatics as well. But it'll be not an easy task.
@@markvermo7523Blue archive is peak of gatekeeping, well fanbase definitely insane 😭😭. But they arent morons like genshin twitter
About the 120 fps thing there actually is a 120 fps option but kuro disabled it cause it was apparantly buggy, but you can still manually enable it through some file editing if I remember correctly.
the bottom line is that the developers presented it as a feature and ended up shitting themselves, but in the end you need to go somewhere for some reason...
Most Genshin fans might be on the same level as Goku fans, they see another open world gacha game and rush to the conclusion if said upcoming game can beat Genshin. Then they proceed to call any game that might get attention as a "Genshin Killer" and feel threatened by the existence of another game. Not to mention the love hate relationship the Hoyo team for Genshin has for their fans outside of CN, doing the bare minimum and only listening when CN complains.
Not saying Genshin is the worst thing out there, other than the gacha system and fear of missing out that keeps players glued. But I do think Wuwa a year from now will improve way faster than Genshin did in the past 3 years.
Oo brother. I've played since launch. It's gone downhill. But let me tell you a secret.
The game is intentionally made the way it is because it is meant for kids.
Mr John has even stated that the game is intentionally made for kids in mind, which is why most things are censored.
So when you look at it with that perspective, you begin to acknowledge that you won't get what you're looking for in genshin. As that is not its main goal.
I remember the first few chapters of PGRs story being somewhat basic too. They were fine but nothing compared to the later ones.
Omg yes, the way you say "WuWa" makes much more sense because the "Wa" part came from Waves... The largest reason why I prefer using WW instead of WuWa
As for Promilia, honestly I hope the farming sim is the major focus just to gatekeep the toxic part of the "open world gacha game players"... Or at least hoping that NtE will be the lamp that attracts those moths.
In WuhWey we trust O7
I don't know how geography plays a role in choosing VAs. It's not like being geographically closer makes discord calls easier in this day and age.
the problem in MY OPINION which NO PROFFESIONAL is that many Gaming company tried to copy the same thing legend of zelda let's be honest genshin ,tower of something and others all either a sub version or a direction version of zelda and the other problem is lack of original Gaming platform (what mean these Games doesn't have their own characteriatics ) for example Arknights everyone knows it's a plants VS zombie 2.0 ,girls frontline tactical operation with gun girls ,azur lane is ship girl shooting targets ,nikke butt shaking shooting ,but what I find it Lacking is they're atleast have a different platform ,looking while genshin ,Tower of fantasy and wuthering waves are basicly the same but with a little artstyle color switch
IN short make a helldivers for phone with cut anime girls
Well azur promilia is not for everyone. I tell it as player played survive game and collect creature, it more like palworld.
You will only see villain after very long game release. But this thing will undefeatable like azur lane. Because you know, eldricht god is never defeatable.
Gotta love that the more you play different gacha games the more you see this period when a game starts off where they have to figure out how to do the story.
I remember starting Azur lane early on and getting to the part where anime Hood sinks again and not finding any story after that so I decided to the event at that time and it ends up just being a Siren simulation and I don’t even remember if they told us they could make simulations.
My problem with Wuthering Waves isn't necessarily the weapon gacha, but the division of the weapons into 5 categories. Honkai: Star Rail moved away from that; there's still light cones, but at least the weapons are all varied and unique (one is even a hat). Punishing: Gray Raven, which was also made by Kuro Games, also has a great variety of weapons. On the other hand, WuWa feels more restricted. Sure there's characters like Jiyan, who uses a spear in his moveset, but why not have a character that only uses a spear. There's some fun weapons in PGR that could have been super fun to play in WuWa like Karenina: Scire's blast (Jet) hammer or Watanabe: Epitaph's pioneer blade (basically a cutlass + gun). I like double pistols, but I feel like there's gonna be a lot of double pistol users in Wuwa as the game ages...
Pls Make AzurPromilia have (atleast 50%) the AzurLane Fanservices, maybe something to the Snowbreak level of fanservices
Add a lot of lolis
@@DonVetto-vx9dd and some oppailoli, it's a rare breed on any gacha
Not going to happen in a more mainstream game lol
@@DonVetto-vx9dd Just play 💤
@@yatmo nah, I already gave PGR and Aether Gazer
Nearly 10 minute of satire 😂
Azur Promilia and GFL2 are my most anticipated games.
Yes sir
Girl Front line 2?
But Nikke isnt what this game already is ? u.U
I mean, Azur Lane is most likely going to do its own thing and give the finger to everyone else. They honestly probably dont care if they get called some game killer or something.
Which is good because they will listen to what needs to be listened to and not worry about satisfying everyone.
Azur Lanes' story isn't that complex. Once you understand the hidden bits, it begins to all make sense and where the story stands.
Right now, it is finally reaching its climax. Finally, moving forward with their story and establishing what will happen now.
Dont know how they will handle APs story, but most likely its going to its own thing.
I agree.
1. Many people think that BA or Nikke story is good, because simply it's easier to understand. In Chinese games, they really like to use verbose and long words.
For example in WuWa case, they use Tacet Discord for saying monster. I think you should just use one word to describe it, heck they always abbreviated it to TD later. And holy shit, the process of formation of something (Tacet field?) is really crazy. It's like explaining addition in math, then substraction (I can still follow this), then multiplication (they lost me here).
This is happened with HSR too. It's crazy to me that I've missed many things in Herta Space Station when I read summary of this chapter.
2. Weapon banner is really sucks. I prefer skin gacha, because I don't care about the shape of weapon or a pic(like Light cones, memory, or craft essence). From Azur Promilia leak(still unclear for it's authenticity), there will be none, but finger crossed. It's great if they don't have it, but I won't be disappointed if they have it. Sadly if they have it, it will be like Light cone where there won't be visual effect whether you use it or not.
3. I really hope they do leaning to fanservice. The current rating is 12+ so I didn't expect much. But rating can be changed easily, and I hope that time will come sooner.
4. I almost forgot about this. But I really hope they don't do Eng dub, because it's likely to be bad. I know there is good English dub, like in warriors franchise (I particularly like Gundam warriors). But I don't know whether this is worth the effort, because Manjuu still doesn't have experience in this, and if they hire Eng dub like Mihoyo, then I don't want it because it's lacking for me.
Dissgree with take 3 , faservixe in a game that is meant to catch a broader audience grom the get go is bad , unless said fanservice comes from not only female charscters wich is very very unlikely , also i don't eant this game to end like Snowbreak 2.0 , a game that started with a similar premise but ended up becoming a cringe harem story that defies the age ratings on play store , look at how cn feedback ruined prologue and now imagine if the whole game was like thaf
@@lovelessshoot883 If this game isn't "harem cringe story" then it won't succeed. Any "broader audience" has been captured by Genshin. It's stupid to fight Genshin in its home turf.
@@lovelessshoot883 Snowbreak was nearly EOS before it switched to more fanservice so idk what your point is there. Now it's doing fairly well for itself.
@@rairotaichou1861 Agreed, Azur Promilia won't be a "Genshin Killer" like many CCs on this site claimed, instead of trying to get "broader audience" and compete with Genshin or Wuwa, Manjuu choose to catering to the audience they already have and doing what they do best.
@lovelessshoot883 Azur lane devs dont care about the other companies, and they don't care about wanting to be on toe with the others.
They will most likely stick with the community they already have and continue to build from there.
Azur lane, just like nikke, is known for its fanservice. (From skins)
The game is technically 12+, but you look at axur Lane, and I believe it's rated T in the playstore. Yet it's clearly not the case as the skins are basically a thread of being literal M rated hentai.
I really doubt Azur primilia is going to hold back.
W-what about intel chips???
I gave WW a 4 weeks shot and got very disappointed. Have no idea what AP is going to be, but at least i like waifus design. And this is a big deal.
Well it more like survive game. Go outside steal egg, gather material, kill kibo to develop your base. Then your resource use to develop character and kibo.
Also you can ride and fight with your pet.
@@maryceleste_aghost Yep. And also, everything is cute:)
Scar is one of the worst antagonist for me.
my man braver than most gacha content creators
I just want one of these games to not have dog shit multiplayer.
Most hyped for azur P and Endfield
game just isn't for you and that's okay
what game is on 9:13?
That's Azur Promilia. It's not release yet, but there is trailer and gameplay demonstration video in youtube.
what the hell is wuhway
I wish AzuPro and P. Mugen don't suffer from the same issue as WuWa upon release.
It’s 👌 in time wuwa be great
Yeah, the wep gacha is the worst failure a game can have. Instant rejection from any potential consumer
It's really a shame that cbt1 of WuWa has a way more unique identity and a different take on the story.
The Ui. While the UI placement is pretty similar to genshin's, the way it looks is pretty unique and different and looks identical to their other game PGR. Now? It just looks like Genshin's UI recolored.
Story. Cbt1's story introduction made me hooked on the story way more than the entirety of act 1 - act 6. Yangyang first impression on Rover is suspicion, seeing how a mysterious person who ended up in their country and lost their memory somehow are able to fight so skillfully without breaking a sweat. How chixia points a gun at rover after defeating AND absorbing crownless, seeing them as a potential threat and baizhu also treating us coldly. From this alone i could understand and invested in the story without too much expositions, the reason behind their suspicion is also logical for me so i can understand from their perspective and after being showed a little bit of Rover's past after absorbing crownless i got interested in their past and gives me a small context on why they might be that strong in the first place.
It's a shame that they advertised this game as a "post-apocalyptic world" yet the characters and story seems so happy-go-lucky, they actually made the world more vibrant than in cbt1 which is not a dealbreaker for me but it really doesn't set the tone for a post-apocalyptic world doesn't it?
I've been hyped for this game since the day they first announced it, i already made up my mind since the first time i saw a gameplay footage. The way we can wall run, the absolutely satisfying combat mechanics complimented by the crisp sound design, the darker and less vibrant tone of the world, the amazing boss designs. It has the potential to be a great open-world action rpg rivalling Genshin but as of now? I have to say that it is still that, *potential*.
Same man, especially cuz i finally had time to try PGR this year and i loved it, revived the spark i had in 2019/2020 hi3 when we actually had to dodge and manage energy of the chars.
And not just the Ui, they even copy pasted all the genshin currencys, just with dif icon & gear farming can be somewhat worse but thats cuz of low lvl now, might be better at UL +50 in tfields (but thats like month and half of daily playing lol).
Game will def be better 1y from now because they gonna be up against end story genshin and all the new OW gachas, but by that time i might be more interested in the new ones lmao.
At least pgr is still cool, even casual i see myself playing it for years
L take
People called me ''hoyo fanboy'' for saying I don't expect kuro to write good stories after I played 1 hour of that hot yapfest garbage of grey raven and quit.
And yes, THE action gameplay is GOOD, they have their due talent or vision or whatever you wanna call it for combat and is fun, but the stories they write omg is so cringe, childish and lame.
I just skip all I could and now I'm acc lvl 38 having fun with the boss battles, just don't wake me up when more story arrives I don't give a fuq.
i strongly disagree with the punishing gray raven part since its objectively a genuinely well written story with actual character developements.
But as of wuwa, (if you play in english) i can see why its bad from the get go anyway, story do get interesting after act 5-6, but thats about it.
Just quick point out to let this one be fair, genshin's 1.0 story too was hot garbage (and honestly still is since they have 0 balls and always stay kid friendly) this seem to be a trope with all gacha games except some few games like honkai star rail.
@@assil555 yeah I havent played genshin because I was already playing Gakuen 2 and Houkai 3. Didn't want to add another gacha and when I saw that genshin story deviated from houkai lore I lost interest completely.
On the grey raven part, I've heard the story gets good later but damn it was painful to keep on and got tired.
at least wuwa let me skip almost everything and just fight.
@@TheOtherSideCh yeah i understand how the first parts where a pain. But the more the story went one the more the writers started to go completely nut and put right to your face how hopeless the earth they're trying to reclaim is, i cant forget some actual wicked shit they show in it like killing childrens or having someone get corrupted and end up eating his living crying mother and describe it all brutally💀
now if wuwa gets as dark as that...
i dont think azur promilia will be a heavily story based game
Genshin is the WoW of gacha games. Trying to "kill" it is pointless.
I just Hope it won't attract the genshin community, cause wuwa already ruined on this point
"Wuway" lol
1:35 Don't make the co-op character bland, but she's cute
Couldn't agree more for that😂😂😂
I don’t know I never had a major problem with the game
Works on my phone well or as well as if can work giving mobile limitations
It works on my pc wonderfully
Some issues I have with the game seem to be getting addressed
Calling genshin's UI outdated is madness
WuhWei? bruh.
Imagine expecting a month old game to be perfect at release.
No game is perfect without bug/glitches.
Technically WW team devs are new team unlike PGR team devs who had experience from there mistakes and now look at the PGR now had become it become better..
I agreed with you with that EN Dub being SUCC.
Azure Promillia will have its hiccups as well when it drops but we don't even know when that game will come out.
Imagine liking a month old game who copies for the most part a 4 years old game... Not even trying to be original.
@@karst1559Genshin wasn't original to begin with. When it was first released it was a BOTW copy and much worse. Now look at it now, it has its own identity.
@@MonLyica there's nothing wrong with copying good ideas, Chinese people had always done that anyways. But at least slightly change your version, make it a bit different. The "life" bars of the minerals in wuwa are identical to those in Genshin, and this is just an insignificant example. They just copied with no shame.
@@karst1559 PGR was basically the same as Honkai Impact and now the game looks nothing like how it did when it released. Right now were in the beginning stages of Wuthering Waves, once we go through new patches it will definitely stand out from Genshin. It's the future of Wuthering Waves that majority of people are looking forward to, you're thinking too much of what it currently is.
Wuthering waves is a great success though, but it’s not for people who have low spec devices if you have the juice the gameplay alone is leagues above any game out there on mobile
_BOTW DID IT FIRST! NOT GENSHIN_
Could you do a vid on cunny archive since you'r one of the sensei of ba ex kikyou banner pulling vid or renge pulling vid?
monhunt mentioned
Manjuu should learn to listen just like wuwa did /s
They reason WUWA become like this are because they listen cn player too much
They do. Compared to other gachas, they have the most forgiving systems of any. From what they started of to now. You just need to grind, and you'll be guaranteed to get what you want. (Except pulls of. Course. But that changed too recently with a new guaranteed system for URs)
Manjuu player actually never care about story, they will play their game as long as they keep faithfull to their core audience
Also making good story with all female gacha character kinda difficult, your vision are restricted by gender target market
Bro speaking as if the game fell off when its literally the top grossing CURRENTLY in both Japan and China after 3 weeks of launch 💀
Like lil bro WHO are you taling to? Every game will copy another game that does not make it bad nor a failure. LoL is still the best MOBA there is and copied everything down to CHARACTER DESIGNS from DOTA. As the years went on they developed their own individuality (and less character clones like im serious the 1.0 League characters were an embarrassment) and grossed an audience even larger than the game they copied.
Everyone with this take is just gonna get embarrassed in the future so I'ma let yall speak lmfao.
yes tall mommy
Great video. Based take
*before i check video catalog* if i see any praise on anything Mihoyo I'm gonna disregard this entire video
Imagine caring sbout story💀💀💀 just enjoy the gameplay
i just hate it when they force me play characters i dont care about in storyline quests because i hate their weapons and gameplay especially that blue haired guy with the lance damn i hate his gameplay i prefer to explose my way through the game with Encore!!!!
Genshin K!Ller?
Genshin Is Outdated In The First Place
Let's Be Honest Wuwa Is On Top Now
Proceed to be very dishonest. The game add new features and mechanics with every new nation so it is never going to be outdated.
It may seems to be outdated to you but yeah that game is still holding the top position with unhinged fanbase,wuwa haven't really done Anything worthwhile in gacha industry to dethrone it. Neither it affected it's popularity nor its playerbase. Only thing it did is just existing as a new game of same genre.
It is also too early to judge since genshin is 4 year old and wuwa currently has its newly released buff going on. Wuwa had its global sales more than Chinese sales which is concerning since china sales matter most, Chinese always buys more than global hence profitable.
it already got off to a bad start by having a cast of only playable female characters, every game that does this gets a reputation as "content for disgusting otakus", no normal person wants to be associated with that, Much of genshin's success is also due to it being a less intimidating game for normal and casual peoples
I don't even know why you guys keep saying things like "I'm afraid the genshin fans will start attacking the game" if this game goes down that road they'll have essentially different audiences
That's the best kind of start, better gatekeep the game from the casuals and normies that thinks of such games that way; they're the reason why Genshin only has trash mini-games in events and a joke of an endgame. Plenty of games are still successful maintaining smaller and more niche markets. Azur Lane and Blue Archive are massively successful to this day, has way better endgame content than 3 years of Genshin garbage, and don't bother appealing to everyone in the world with a mobile phone. Hope Azur Promilia follows suit.
@@TicTacTaro-oq9kh I hope that Azur Promilia also follows suit and continues to be successful within its niche and never leaves there, I don't want us, normal people, to be associated with this type of content that is so blatantly pedophile.
I want Genshin to be better, yes, but without me feeling like I'm having fun with criminal otaku content.
Yeah but people who are fans of that content don’t care what the casual fans think long as they keep it to themselves.
Hoyoverse fans just have a bad habit of getting into other fandoms and complaining about stuff that even seems a little too “anime” or “waifu bait” or fan service like their overblown reaction to the bunny costumes of Nikke.
No the story does not get better its just mid
Yet you still played it
@@villaniousmustache4898 how do you think I got my info
@@villaniousmustache4898 yes because the gameplay is very good. But the story is mid at best, tho the last two act make a great effort in staging
How well the gameplay is built even the bad story dosent feel bad..its the opposite in genshin..good story dogshit gameplay in wuwa i personally dont have that many problems as of now as doing story quests and stuff dosent feel even CLOSE to as bad as doing archon quests in genshin
@@gamespremier7179 well I am no genshit player I know where to waste my time
there's no genshin killer and there wil never be, WoW has been up for 20years and we've been saying WoW killer every year for the past 15years, even when blizzard have been shitting themselves for 7 consecutive years. The reasoning is very simple, blind loyalty and nostalgia for the "good old days". doesn't matter how amazing, how perfect Azure promilia or Einfield or even wuwa in the future is going to be they will NOT be the genshin killer. in many regards FF XIV is objectively a much better game than wow will ever be, but guess what still not a wow killer. the same thing will hapen with genshin.
When you look at yostar and the two different devs. They clearly dont care about the drama the other communities have.
Blue archive exists and they do their own things.
Azur lane, Arknights, Nikke. They all do their own things.
They decided to follow a similar idea of making an open world game. (Which BTW azur lane: crosswave existed before genshin even existed. Its semi open world and their take at a 3d shooter following their own core gameplay. )
I saw endfield, and it is basically similar to FF13 in the paradigm system.
Promilia follows some aspect to palworld but most likely will do their own thing with completely different gameplay and gacha system.
I mean, these two devs are building on what they already have. They want their community to try out their new games and see if they enjoy it. Not worrying about some BS drama from others.