I've owned both the 50 and the Iconic. While the Iconic is great, I still like the red channel on the 34 better than any of the other red channels. Great amplifiers!
@@tyrannosaurusriffs me too bro I love that el34 50. I got 2 one for the band room and one for the house and. Love the low end . In your shootout it blew the 100 watt one away
@@BlairArroyo I love that you have 2 of them. I used to do the same thing when I had my band. One for home for the rehearsal space. I use the free plugin from ML sound labs of this amplifier every single week. That amp is so good. Even at low volumes.
For anyone who cares about wattage, twice the wattage will increase your volume by 3 decibels. So a 100 watt amp can be 3 decibels louder than a 50 watt amp, and in order to be 3 decibels louder than 100 watts, you would need 200 watts. Also, an increase of 6 decibels doubles the perceived volume to your ears. So, 3 decibels isn't insignificant, but most of us will never take advantage of the full power of a 100 watt amp anyway. However, the feel completely changes. I've never loved the way lower watt amps feel, especially in the cases where it's a variant of a higher wattage version, like this amp. Any time I've played a 100 watt versus the lower wattage version, whether it was 60 watts, 50 watts, 30 watts, etc., the 100 always sounded better to me. I wish it didn't, because I will never use the volume, and I hate carrying heavy equipment up and down stairs and in and out of a car.
Hey! Thank you for sharing that information. That’s great info and I appreciate you taking the time to share that knowledge. I also do not like carrying big/heavy equipment back and forth!
Since my first comment was posted to inflict maximum butt hurt on certain viewers, I suppose I should take a moment to comment on the actual comment. It may be bias induced for a desire to return to better times, but I still prefer the Peavey 5150's, now 6505's. That being said the need for mega watt amps is long gone. I prefer the smaller amps as they seem to be tighter, to my ear.
Peavey does make a great amplifier. I’ll never let go of my block letter and I’m sure I’ll own a 6505+ again at some point. Those were my first real loves with tube amps and I always go back to them. If I played live again, 50 watt amps and 212 cabs. Everything else is too big to lug around. Also, I do hope the first comment gets some people haha
Low end. Even if you were to turn down the low/resonance down to match. The headroom allows it to breathe. Especially the lower you tune down, it becomes extremely noticeable. That being said, the way the 50 watts naturally cut the low end is actually kind of pleasing and brjngs out different parts of the frequency spectrum. So they both have positive tonal qualities.
50 blue sounds more scooped than the 100 blue, definitely (though in a specific spot). Both sound killer. I think for the EL34s, the 100W is the go, and for a Stealth, the 50 and 100 are both exceptionally good.
It's hard to compare red channels because blue gain pot on 100 is like bright for red channel as you said. It changes bass before gain and power of gain so you must turn red gain pot higher when blue gain pot (bright pot) is turned down. But there is another problem. Red gain pot has bright cap and when it's over half way it adds more and more bass when pot is close to the maximum.
You said it much better than I did. It’s weird that it does that. I’m still surprised at how different the two amps are. I would have thought they’d be a lot closer in similarity. Not worlds different, but definitely have quite a bit of differences.
I own the 50 watt head. I wish they would have used concentric knobs for the shared eq. I also don't like how the tone changes when using when engaging the effects loop. Cool video
From the distance it looks like a sliced Warwick, the thing you're playing, not the Eko they've cut out of parkour happier hours, nor the line that we tested it was not worth the very pro rig, why not one of those cheaper Harley Benton? Ranger or Fiesta? I don't know what's beyond that 7-Eleven thing, I never had to test anything over 5k that I'd never spend on a watch under that sum. That's all folks it's still not a classic. I'd rather eat a steak at Angus than get futhermore mad over chineses roses essences of sakè to die with in my own pit of plexiglass extravaganza. Namastè.
Wanna really piss gear snobs off? Start doing your speaker vs videos with This rig: Harley Benton 2x12 cab Boss katana head Leo Jaymz American Flag Single Cut (LP) guitar.
hahahahahaha! Oh man, I might have some people coming for my head! It's funny to me how upset people can get. Now I want to make a video with that gear just for fun.
I bet a lot of people would actually like that set up. Gear snob Gate Keepers are annoying little trolls. Nobody hates for being able to afford the good stuff, but most of us can't. It would be great to hear speaker shoot outs through the typical garage gear set up.
@@deangullberry5148this is true. I’m finding the gear that isn’t as expensive does better on this platform anyway. Plus, price doesn’t make it sound better!
The best answer is having both. Even though I have both, I can't sell the 50w one, it is still different from the 100s. Try recording a mix and listen to it, this way you'll know what you like. I personally like both and record using both. Also, fully agree on the red channel of the 100s.
My friend has the 50 now, but I did love them both! It is a lot more different than I would have originally guessed. EVH makes killer amplifiers. I got them pretty close in the mix at the end!
Before I purchased my 50 Stealth. I also got to test the Badlander. Actually for me the EVH somehow stayed in my heart, the sound was much tighter, glassy, transparent and pushing especially on the Fishman pickups. Boogie was much more focused on the low end and felt cloudy and empty to me, kind of missing that boost. But this is my personal opinion and I do not commit anyone to it, it's all a matter of taste! Greetings@@KeepAnOpenMind
That is an absolutely sick guitar!
Thank you! It’s pretty beat up but for 1 of 100, I had to snag it!
I got the 50 watt one and I think it’s definitely worth it. It’s louder than the 80 watt iconic
I've owned both the 50 and the Iconic. While the Iconic is great, I still like the red channel on the 34 better than any of the other red channels. Great amplifiers!
@@tyrannosaurusriffs me too bro I love that el34 50. I got 2 one for the band room and one for the house and. Love the low end . In your shootout it blew the 100 watt one away
@@BlairArroyo I love that you have 2 of them. I used to do the same thing when I had my band. One for home for the rehearsal space. I use the free plugin from ML sound labs of this amplifier every single week. That amp is so good. Even at low volumes.
just got one of the 50w today on a trade new with the box and paperwork sounds good so far
Congrats on your new to you amplifier! I really did enjoy that one. The red channel is my favorite of any 5150!
i havent got to crank the volume yet but had to part with my 6505+ recently so im hoping this will be just as enjoyable @@tyrannosaurusriffs
@@VinceMusicianGI do love the 6505+. I think you’ll enjoy it at least as much!
Anyone that cranks the Mids for high gain is off their heads lol
For anyone who cares about wattage, twice the wattage will increase your volume by 3 decibels. So a 100 watt amp can be 3 decibels louder than a 50 watt amp, and in order to be 3 decibels louder than 100 watts, you would need 200 watts.
Also, an increase of 6 decibels doubles the perceived volume to your ears. So, 3 decibels isn't insignificant, but most of us will never take advantage of the full power of a 100 watt amp anyway. However, the feel completely changes. I've never loved the way lower watt amps feel, especially in the cases where it's a variant of a higher wattage version, like this amp.
Any time I've played a 100 watt versus the lower wattage version, whether it was 60 watts, 50 watts, 30 watts, etc., the 100 always sounded better to me. I wish it didn't, because I will never use the volume, and I hate carrying heavy equipment up and down stairs and in and out of a car.
Hey! Thank you for sharing that information. That’s great info and I appreciate you taking the time to share that knowledge. I also do not like carrying big/heavy equipment back and forth!
Man the 50w blue channel sounds so thin and ice picky. Why is it so different
@@DBIIIStudios I didn’t realize how thin it sounded until I got the 100. It almost has a broken sound to it!
Since my first comment was posted to inflict maximum butt hurt on certain viewers, I suppose I should take a moment to comment on the actual comment.
It may be bias induced for a desire to return to better times, but I still prefer the Peavey 5150's, now 6505's. That being said the need for mega watt amps is long gone. I prefer the smaller amps as they seem to be tighter, to my ear.
Peavey does make a great amplifier. I’ll never let go of my block letter and I’m sure I’ll own a 6505+ again at some point. Those were my first real loves with tube amps and I always go back to them. If I played live again, 50 watt amps and 212 cabs. Everything else is too big to lug around. Also, I do hope the first comment gets some people haha
I have yet to find a convincing argument in favor of extra wattage. I think the lead guitarist for ZZ Top plays a Marshall 15 watt mini stack live.
Low end. Even if you were to turn down the low/resonance down to match. The headroom allows it to breathe. Especially the lower you tune down, it becomes extremely noticeable. That being said, the way the 50 watts naturally cut the low end is actually kind of pleasing and brjngs out different parts of the frequency spectrum. So they both have positive tonal qualities.
the 50 sounds low and high focused with a dip in the mids and the 100 has the mid hump and a little less top end sizzle
50 blue sounds more scooped than the 100 blue, definitely (though in a specific spot). Both sound killer. I think for the EL34s, the 100W is the go, and for a Stealth, the 50 and 100 are both exceptionally good.
I couldn't agree more on both statements about EL34 and Stealth models. You said it best.
I am getting 2 of the EL 34 100 watts
Hell yeah! Power house! They’re such great amplifiers.
@@tyrannosaurusriffs So many great choices I hope it was the right choice
@@DirtyMikeTM it was! It’s such a fun and versatile monster!
It's hard to compare red channels because blue gain pot on 100 is like bright for red channel as you said. It changes bass before gain and power of gain so you must turn red gain pot higher when blue gain pot (bright pot) is turned down. But there is another problem. Red gain pot has bright cap and when it's over half way it adds more and more bass when pot is close to the maximum.
You said it much better than I did. It’s weird that it does that. I’m still surprised at how different the two amps are. I would have thought they’d be a lot closer in similarity. Not worlds different, but definitely have quite a bit of differences.
I own the 50 watt head. I wish they would have used concentric knobs for the shared eq. I also don't like how the tone changes when using when engaging the effects loop. Cool video
That definitely would have been nice to have the EQ completely separate on the 50. I like the green and blue much different on eq’s. Thank you!
From the distance it looks like a sliced Warwick, the thing you're playing, not the Eko they've cut out of parkour happier hours, nor the line that we tested it was not worth the very pro rig, why not one of those cheaper Harley Benton? Ranger or Fiesta? I don't know what's beyond that 7-Eleven thing, I never had to test anything over 5k that I'd never spend on a watch under that sum. That's all folks it's still not a classic. I'd rather eat a steak at Angus than get futhermore mad over chineses roses essences of sakè to die with in my own pit of plexiglass extravaganza. Namastè.
David, I appreciate you. Have a great day!
50
Wanna really piss gear snobs off?
Start doing your speaker vs videos with This rig:
Harley Benton 2x12 cab
Boss katana head
Leo Jaymz American Flag Single Cut (LP) guitar.
hahahahahaha! Oh man, I might have some people coming for my head! It's funny to me how upset people can get. Now I want to make a video with that gear just for fun.
I bet a lot of people would actually like that set up. Gear snob Gate Keepers are annoying little trolls. Nobody hates for being able to afford the good stuff, but most of us can't.
It would be great to hear speaker shoot outs through the typical garage gear set up.
@@deangullberry5148this is true. I’m finding the gear that isn’t as expensive does better on this platform anyway. Plus, price doesn’t make it sound better!
The best answer is having both. Even though I have both, I can't sell the 50w one, it is still different from the 100s. Try recording a mix and listen to it, this way you'll know what you like. I personally like both and record using both. Also, fully agree on the red channel of the 100s.
My friend has the 50 now, but I did love them both! It is a lot more different than I would have originally guessed. EVH makes killer amplifiers. I got them pretty close in the mix at the end!
@@tyrannosaurusriffs indeed! I wanted to try the Mesa badlander, but I think I won’t after the 100s.
@@KeepAnOpenMindbadlander rules as well! Just different flavors of awesome!
Before I purchased my 50 Stealth. I also got to test the Badlander. Actually for me the EVH somehow stayed in my heart, the sound was much tighter, glassy, transparent and pushing especially on the Fishman pickups. Boogie was much more focused on the low end and felt cloudy and empty to me, kind of missing that boost. But this is my personal opinion and I do not commit anyone to it, it's all a matter of taste! Greetings@@KeepAnOpenMind
Always love the comparisons
Thanks my guy!