This movie is absolutely incredible, but the best part about it is the director's comments about the ending. The director has said that it's meant to be a tragic ending. Most people see it as Neiman overcoming his hardships and making Fletcher proud. In reality it's the director's way of saying that the abuser won in the end. Even though Neiman accomplishes his goal, it's all because of what Fletcher did. After the film, Neiman did die in his early 30s. Full of drugs and no one there to love him. Fletcher, however, would still be alive and well. Neiman became one of the greats, but at the cost of losing his girlfriend and abandoning his father. All to please his abuser. Absolutely brilliant writing.
I think it becomes even more clear when you view it in the context of Damien Chazelle's other films, the central theme of all of his stories are the sacrifices that characters have to make in the goal of success. In this film, La La Land, Babylon, even First Man to some extent, we see how the characters sacrifice their relationships, families, dignity, and even lives in some cases, all in the name of achieving that gold-plated validation, and by the end we're not even sure if it was worth it anyway
My perspective about Fletcher was he was trying to get his students to be confident enough in their abilities to go beyond him and be one of the greats. However despite his hard methods he has never had that one he was looking for and he really tried. In the bar Neiman asked Fletcher would his teaching methods ever discourage the next prodigy. Fletcher responds with that’s the thing the true prodigy would never get discouraged. In the end when Nieman went back on stage despite getting screwed by Fletcher never giving him the sheet to whiplash. Nieman toke over the show and he became the instructor becoming Fletcher during the process. Fletcher tried getting under Niemans skin but doesn’t work. Then lastly had the greatest performance Fletcher has been looking for this entire time.
The unique thing about this film is that The villain that can’t lose because his whole goal is to find the next Charlie Parker. Being fired is not a loss for him because he just goes to the next job and tries to find him again. Also, I think Adam Sandler’s character from Hustle, Stanley Sugarman, has a quote that summarizes this film perfectly. “Obsession is going to beat talent every time. You have all the talent in the world, but are you obsessed?”
Exactly. Fletcher won in the end. In the final scene, Fletcher gives Neiman the same music folder that he previously stole at the competition. Neiman was so blinded by his obsession; he didn't even notice. Also, you can see that even when Neiman is "going rogue" Fletcher is still conducting him, which shows you that Fletcher still has full control over Neiman.
@@アキコ2003 I’m basing this on the world of this film. Not in real life. Did not take long for him to lead another band going into the JVC concert at the end of the film.
The thing about Fletcher, he didnt go hard on his students just to bring out the best in them, he went to any length he possibly could just so he could take credit as the one to find the next Charlie Parker. He wasnt sad he'd lost Sean Casey, he was sad he'd lost his then best shot to the top. Everything he did, constant abuse and manipulation, it was clear they'd either rise to his desires or topple to the side as he stepped over them.
I absolutely love this movie. The ending is triumphant and sad at the same time. He became a master but at the cost of losing almost everything including himself. I love the scene when Paul Riser saw him through the door mastering the drums. The look on his face was how I felt too. Excellent movie! 👏🏾👏🏾
Hell, besides the people he lost, he lost his _love for drumming_ at the end of that movie. His final performance is driven only by the _obsession with winning._ Which gets short-term results, but being a musician without a love of music is... not healthy.
So excited for this one! 😊 This is one of my top favorite Miles Teller and J.K. Simmons films. Love the ending! I've got some of the music from this soundtrack on one of my Spotify playlists. Fun Fact: J.K. Simmons won the Academy Award and Golden Globe for 'Best Supporting Actor' for his role in this movie in 2015. Totally deserved it
I watched this movie 20 times and probably the most watched movie for me. this reaction proves why I did it and reminds me agian how much I love this intense movie. also glad to see you enjoying watching movies, Robert! missed u guys a lot!!
As a band kid in high school, this is one of my favorites.. epic piece of work that's paced perfectly, contained, and powerful with some of the best performances
My favorite movie ending of all time. This film is nearly perfect. It doesn't drag, doesn't rush, and it ends on the absolute climax. This is how you do it.
A little late but Miles Teller had been playing drums since he was like 15 so he was prepared for this role. Similarly J.K. Simmons has a bachelor's degree in music and intended to become a music teacher before taking a career in acting. So both leads were more than ready for this movie.
Still, my favorite closing scene in a film, ever. And it's a DRUM SOLO. Not an extravagant car chase or a sprawling shoot-out -- a drum solo. And I'd put that drum solo scene up against any other film's closing scene. Amazing.
It hurts when you realize our joy at the end is what Fletcher uses to justify his methods. In the end, we are proud of Miles Teller's character, and he wouldn't be there without Fletcher's abuse. The villain wins at the end.
@@blaze5688 yes, he played the drums, however, what you see are multiple clips of him "playing" to make it look like he is playing the songs in one-take. I didn't say he wasn't playing, I was giving credit to the editors whom made him look like he was a great percussionist.
This film terrified me when I watched it because it was like looking into a mirror and made me self-reflect. I have the tendency to become a toxic perfectionist when it comes to playing my instruments/trying to get good and this movie perfectly taps into every fear and insecurity I had. There were several moments where I felt panic and dread. It no doubt still sticks with me. Easy 10/10 imo
Over the last few years, Whiplash has gone in my eyes from being a pretty damn good film to legit one of my all-time favourites. Everything about this is so fantastic, from the excellent editing, to the sharp snappy script, to Simmons and Teller's intense performances, to pretty much everything about the showstopping finale, which is one of the best endings to any film ever made. Along with La La Land, this film established Damien Chazelle as one of the best modern filmmakers, and someone whose work is always an absolute must-watch. On that note, I'd definitely recommend watching Babylon. It's definitely an acquired taste and it isn't for everyone, but it's such a gloriously stylish and visually striking experience that you certainly won't be forgetting any time soon (and at any rate, it's worth watching just to hear Justin Hurwitz go absolutely nuts on the soundtrack)
This movie is absolutely incredible, but the best part about it is the director's comments about the ending. The director has said that it's meant to be a tragic ending. Most people see it as Neiman overcoming his hardships and making Fletcher proud. In reality it's the director's way of saying that the abuser won in the end. Even though Neiman accomplishes his goal, it's all because of what Fletcher did. After the film, Neiman did die in his early 30s. Full of drugs and no one there to love him. Fletcher, however, would still be alive and well. Neiman became one of the greats, but at the cost of losing his girlfriend and abandoning his father. All to please his abuser. Absolutely brilliant writing.
I see "Almost Famous" (Oscar for Cameron Crowe - Screenplay) came in second and I really hope you react to it, well worth the time: Almost Famous Is Semi-Autobiographical To Cameron Crowe's Own Teenage Years. The creative liberties aside, the general premise of Almost Famous seems to mirror the writer and director's own teenage years. So, one of Cameron Crowe's best movies is also his most personal one.
He sees it for the first and last time, because his son has given him up. The recognition fades into horror as he realises he has lost his son forever.
Hey guys, if you like Miles Teller, you gotta check out Only The Brave with him and Josh Brolin. A Great movie that everyone overlooks. Looking forward to your reaction to Whiplash.
Best villain ever, JkS motivated by obsession to find the best, the greatest the world best drummer, and miles was him the one jks found and knew he had it in him. JkS want just the only villain, Miles turners parents in the movie clearly didn’t motivate their kids until the arc at the end with the father but it didn’t show much that his father saw much in his son Miles
I recently watched this with my mom & my uncle, and I thought it was a great movie! My mom thought the teacher was abusive and when my dad saw parts of it, he laughed so hard when Fletcher said Sanjay Gupta!😂🤣 Also, the car crash literally had me get up and walk around hands behind the back of my head mouth open thinking “OH MY GOSH😮” Also, I like how Vanessa was like “I’ll still fuckin’ get there!” and said Andrew will be like “I’m Charlie Parker bitch!”😂🤣🙌
The reason why so many people are cut from that cloth is the pain that they experience from their lives. There are few if any great or historic figures in the world that haven't experienced unbearable pain or suffering. That intense level is every bit as mental as it is physical. Unfortunately, we do have a terrible human tradition of making people earn such fame and glory through suffering and sacrifice. It shouldn't be that way at all, but it is and will continue until someone discovers a more effective method.
This movie isn't a triumph, it's a tragedy. And I really enjoy your channel, but it's frustrating that every single guy I've seen react to this seems to genuinely think Fletcher is "trying to get the best out of him." Every single one. Fletcher has no "softer side." He is not abusing to foster greatness. He is not a creator, he is a destroyer. As a former classical musician, abuse doesn't make you better. Physical and emotional pain don't make you better and will actually hold you back. Overpracticing will harm you physically and potentially end or shorten your career through tendonitis, injury, etc. If you are bleeding while you play, stop playing. I love this movie, but no, Fletcher is not making Neiman "one of the greats." He has destroyed the kid's soul.
"There are no two words in the English language more harmful than: good job" I slightly disagree. I would add "unearned" in between "two words" in that sentence and that would be my philosophy. Fun Fact: The film was shot in 19 days. Drummer Boy Fact: Miles Teller, who has played the drums since he was 15, received blisters on his hands due to the vigorous, unconventional style of jazz drumming. Some of his blood was on the drumsticks and the drum set as a result. During the more intense practice scenes, the director wouldn't yell "cut!" so that Miles Teller would keep drumming until he exhausted himself. Landing Blows Fact: For the slapping scene, J.K. Simmons and Miles Teller filmed several takes with Simmons only miming the slap. For the final take, Simmons and Teller decided to film the scene with a real, genuine slap. This is the take that is in the film. J.K. Simmons suffered two cracked ribs when Miles Teller tackled him during the last two days of shooting. Simmons managed to continue working despite his injury.
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It takes Simmons as an actor from memorable to unforgettable.
This movie is absolutely incredible, but the best part about it is the director's comments about the ending. The director has said that it's meant to be a tragic ending. Most people see it as Neiman overcoming his hardships and making Fletcher proud. In reality it's the director's way of saying that the abuser won in the end. Even though Neiman accomplishes his goal, it's all because of what Fletcher did. After the film, Neiman did die in his early 30s. Full of drugs and no one there to love him. Fletcher, however, would still be alive and well. Neiman became one of the greats, but at the cost of losing his girlfriend and abandoning his father. All to please his abuser. Absolutely brilliant writing.
I think it becomes even more clear when you view it in the context of Damien Chazelle's other films, the central theme of all of his stories are the sacrifices that characters have to make in the goal of success. In this film, La La Land, Babylon, even First Man to some extent, we see how the characters sacrifice their relationships, families, dignity, and even lives in some cases, all in the name of achieving that gold-plated validation, and by the end we're not even sure if it was worth it anyway
>abuser
Man, you NPCs need to be led.
Damn so essentially fletcher portrayed neyman death during band practice when he was playing jazz music in class. Wow that’s deep.
My perspective about Fletcher was he was trying to get his students to be confident enough in their abilities to go beyond him and be one of the greats. However despite his hard methods he has never had that one he was looking for and he really tried. In the bar Neiman asked Fletcher would his teaching methods ever discourage the next prodigy. Fletcher responds with that’s the thing the true prodigy would never get discouraged. In the end when Nieman went back on stage despite getting screwed by Fletcher never giving him the sheet to whiplash. Nieman toke over the show and he became the instructor becoming Fletcher during the process. Fletcher tried getting under Niemans skin but doesn’t work. Then lastly had the greatest performance Fletcher has been looking for this entire time.
@@iron6672bro what
The unique thing about this film is that The villain that can’t lose because his whole goal is to find the next Charlie Parker. Being fired is not a loss for him because he just goes to the next job and tries to find him again. Also, I think Adam Sandler’s character from Hustle, Stanley Sugarman, has a quote that summarizes this film perfectly. “Obsession is going to beat talent every time. You have all the talent in the world, but are you obsessed?”
Exactly. Fletcher won in the end. In the final scene, Fletcher gives Neiman the same music folder that he previously stole at the competition. Neiman was so blinded by his obsession; he didn't even notice. Also, you can see that even when Neiman is "going rogue" Fletcher is still conducting him, which shows you that Fletcher still has full control over Neiman.
Wdym? You do realize that when someone is fired for assault/abuse they won't get another job that easly or not get another job at all
@@アキコ2003 I’m basing this on the world of this film. Not in real life. Did not take long for him to lead another band going into the JVC concert at the end of the film.
JK Simmons in this movie is umm, terrifying 💀
We would hate to cross him.
As an abuse survivor, this movie was nearly impossible to finish.
Yep. Most viewers aren't able to recognize that Fletcher is a malignant narcissist.
@@SC-gp7kthe isn’t
Is not that deep bruv😂
@@Okok-bj8xh I guess I'm referring to you too. Its ok
Oh brother, then don't watch something that will torture you that way
The thing about Fletcher, he didnt go hard on his students just to bring out the best in them, he went to any length he possibly could just so he could take credit as the one to find the next Charlie Parker. He wasnt sad he'd lost Sean Casey, he was sad he'd lost his then best shot to the top. Everything he did, constant abuse and manipulation, it was clear they'd either rise to his desires or topple to the side as he stepped over them.
JK Simmons took home the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor for his role in the movie.
Well deserved.
J.K gives one of the best performances ever on any film
I absolutely love this movie. The ending is triumphant and sad at the same time. He became a master but at the cost of losing almost everything including himself. I love the scene when Paul Riser saw him through the door mastering the drums. The look on his face was how I felt too. Excellent movie! 👏🏾👏🏾
Hell, besides the people he lost, he lost his _love for drumming_ at the end of that movie. His final performance is driven only by the _obsession with winning._ Which gets short-term results, but being a musician without a love of music is... not healthy.
So excited for this one! 😊
This is one of my top favorite Miles Teller and J.K. Simmons films. Love the ending!
I've got some of the music from this soundtrack on one of my Spotify playlists.
Fun Fact: J.K. Simmons won the Academy Award and Golden Globe for 'Best Supporting Actor' for his role in this movie in 2015. Totally deserved it
The ending was powerful!
I watched this movie 20 times and probably the most watched movie for me. this reaction proves why I did it and reminds me agian how much I love this intense movie.
also glad to see you enjoying watching movies, Robert! missed u guys a lot!!
As a band kid in high school, this is one of my favorites.. epic piece of work that's paced perfectly, contained, and powerful with some of the best performances
The look of horror on his dad’s face at the end says it all.
Horror and realizing his son's greatness at the same time
It's Awe. Awesome and Awful
My favorite movie ending of all time. This film is nearly perfect. It doesn't drag, doesn't rush, and it ends on the absolute climax. This is how you do it.
A little late but Miles Teller had been playing drums since he was like 15 so he was prepared for this role.
Similarly J.K. Simmons has a bachelor's degree in music and intended to become a music teacher before taking a career in acting.
So both leads were more than ready for this movie.
20:37 Miles has the same look on his face that Gomer Pyle has in Full Metal Jacket
This is a 10 out of 10 movie. Perfection
Still, my favorite closing scene in a film, ever. And it's a DRUM SOLO. Not an extravagant car chase or a sprawling shoot-out -- a drum solo. And I'd put that drum solo scene up against any other film's closing scene. Amazing.
It hurts when you realize our joy at the end is what Fletcher uses to justify his methods. In the end, we are proud of Miles Teller's character, and he wouldn't be there without Fletcher's abuse. The villain wins at the end.
Thats so crazy you said that. We had a 3rd grade teacher at our school who threw markers and chalk at kids too!! 😂
The film editors are the true heroes of this, they made Miles Teller look like he actually played whole song parts 😂
He did play the drums
@@blaze5688 yes, he played the drums, however, what you see are multiple clips of him "playing" to make it look like he is playing the songs in one-take. I didn't say he wasn't playing, I was giving credit to the editors whom made him look like he was a great percussionist.
@@graciefolden2359 He still more talented that some dudes with a computer, that doesnt take skill
the devil won as always, and funny thing is even after saying the ending is a tragic one, no one seems to care it seems
This film terrified me when I watched it because it was like looking into a mirror and made me self-reflect. I have the tendency to become a toxic perfectionist when it comes to playing my instruments/trying to get good and this movie perfectly taps into every fear and insecurity I had. There were several moments where I felt panic and dread. It no doubt still sticks with me. Easy 10/10 imo
Definitely in my top 3 favourite movies of all time❤thanks for reacting to this masterpiece
This fricken movie was so satisfyingly exhausting 😂
That was definitely my tempo. I almost watched this movie, when it was on HBO! I'll give it another shot, when it comes back on.
Over the last few years, Whiplash has gone in my eyes from being a pretty damn good film to legit one of my all-time favourites. Everything about this is so fantastic, from the excellent editing, to the sharp snappy script, to Simmons and Teller's intense performances, to pretty much everything about the showstopping finale, which is one of the best endings to any film ever made. Along with La La Land, this film established Damien Chazelle as one of the best modern filmmakers, and someone whose work is always an absolute must-watch.
On that note, I'd definitely recommend watching Babylon. It's definitely an acquired taste and it isn't for everyone, but it's such a gloriously stylish and visually striking experience that you certainly won't be forgetting any time soon (and at any rate, it's worth watching just to hear Justin Hurwitz go absolutely nuts on the soundtrack)
I really love this movie. Best ending ever! 😁
Incredible ending!
This movie is absolutely incredible, but the best part about it is the director's comments about the ending. The director has said that it's meant to be a tragic ending. Most people see it as Neiman overcoming his hardships and making Fletcher proud. In reality it's the director's way of saying that the abuser won in the end. Even though Neiman accomplishes his goal, it's all because of what Fletcher did. After the film, Neiman did die in his early 30s. Full of drugs and no one there to love him. Fletcher, however, would still be alive and well. Neiman became one of the greats, but at the cost of losing his girlfriend and abandoning his father. All to please his abuser. Absolutely brilliant writing.
I see "Almost Famous" (Oscar for Cameron Crowe - Screenplay) came in second and I really hope you react to it, well worth the time:
Almost Famous Is Semi-Autobiographical To Cameron Crowe's Own Teenage Years. The creative liberties aside, the general premise of Almost Famous seems to mirror the writer and director's own teenage years. So, one of Cameron Crowe's best movies is also his most personal one.
Please keep putting "Popstar" in polls! One of the funniest movies in recent memory. And the music is a bonus!
We will.
When his father finally saw his son's talent
Yep, especially after that dinner scene. His dad finally sees his greatness. I loved that part.
He is watching his kid getting destroyed he is not proud he is scared.
He sees it for the first and last time, because his son has given him up. The recognition fades into horror as he realises he has lost his son forever.
The thing is in the end it was not the teachers tempo it was Andrew's!
Jk Simmons was Viltrumite before he became a Viltrumite😂💯
Hey guys, if you like Miles Teller, you gotta check out Only The Brave with him and Josh Brolin. A Great movie that everyone overlooks. Looking forward to your reaction to Whiplash.
Thanks for the recommendation.
The cameraman is an artist, just like everyone else on set. It's not poor "Cameron Man", is that cameraman did that shit!
you HAVE to watch Empire Records too.. such a good movie.. and soundtrack! :)
Great reaction to a great movie. Liked and subscribed.
Believe it or not, he wasn’t dragging nor was he rushing
Amazing movie!
Agreed.
Stepped out of Reservoir Dogs. Great line.
Yeap, that's a phenomenal movie. It got everything.
Best villain ever, JkS motivated by obsession to find the best, the greatest the world best drummer, and miles was him the one jks found and knew he had it in him. JkS want just the only villain, Miles turners parents in the movie clearly didn’t motivate their kids until the arc at the end with the father but it didn’t show much that his father saw much in his son Miles
I recently watched this with my mom & my uncle, and I thought it was a great movie! My mom thought the teacher was abusive and when my dad saw parts of it, he laughed so hard when Fletcher said Sanjay Gupta!😂🤣
Also, the car crash literally had me get up and walk around hands behind the back of my head mouth open thinking “OH MY GOSH😮”
Also, I like how Vanessa was like “I’ll still fuckin’ get there!” and said Andrew will be like “I’m Charlie Parker bitch!”😂🤣🙌
The reason why so many people are cut from that cloth is the pain that they experience from their lives. There are few if any great or historic figures in the world that haven't experienced unbearable pain or suffering. That intense level is every bit as mental as it is physical. Unfortunately, we do have a terrible human tradition of making people earn such fame and glory through suffering and sacrifice. It shouldn't be that way at all, but it is and will continue until someone discovers a more effective method.
great film
Omni Man Wins!.
Gotta love watching a reaction and getting spoiled the end of another movie ... I guessed I should have watched La La Land earlier
Bruh i had a 3rd grade teacher with the same attitude 🤦🏾♂️
This movie isn't a triumph, it's a tragedy. And I really enjoy your channel, but it's frustrating that every single guy I've seen react to this seems to genuinely think Fletcher is "trying to get the best out of him." Every single one. Fletcher has no "softer side." He is not abusing to foster greatness. He is not a creator, he is a destroyer.
As a former classical musician, abuse doesn't make you better. Physical and emotional pain don't make you better and will actually hold you back. Overpracticing will harm you physically and potentially end or shorten your career through tendonitis, injury, etc. If you are bleeding while you play, stop playing. I love this movie, but no, Fletcher is not making Neiman "one of the greats." He has destroyed the kid's soul.
He’s always been scarred
"There are no two words in the English language more harmful than: good job"
I slightly disagree. I would add "unearned" in between "two words" in that sentence and that would be my philosophy.
Fun Fact: The film was shot in 19 days.
Drummer Boy Fact: Miles Teller, who has played the drums since he was 15, received blisters on his hands due to the vigorous, unconventional style of jazz drumming. Some of his blood was on the drumsticks and the drum set as a result. During the more intense practice scenes, the director wouldn't yell "cut!" so that Miles Teller would keep drumming until he exhausted himself.
Landing Blows Fact: For the slapping scene, J.K. Simmons and Miles Teller filmed several takes with Simmons only miming the slap. For the final take, Simmons and Teller decided to film the scene with a real, genuine slap. This is the take that is in the film. J.K. Simmons suffered two cracked ribs when Miles Teller tackled him during the last two days of shooting. Simmons managed to continue working despite his injury.
Imagine JK Simmons has Superman powers
So... Omni-Man?
Please,
Please,
Pleeeaaase!!!!!
Try Nimona
Unsure why some words are ok and some are bleeped...
Some words are worse than others.
@@LatetotheParty Understood. Makes the reaction more raw when they are left uncensored though. just my two cents
BFF bi?
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You know this dude reacting would piss himself if a teacher even talked to him 😂
Nope. I'd shit on the drums. Just like I say in this video.