At the time of recording this, Resolve 18.5 was still in beta but I know that’s changed now, what are your experiences with text based editing and the new version?
In 10 years from now, Christopher Nolan will come out saying that he prefers traditional editing and we should all go to watch his latest blockbuster because it was all traditionally edited. And we'll eat that up like it's the coolest thing ever.
Yeah so cool really hope he brings another film of mids and close ups of people talking in small rooms for 3 hours that simply has to be shot IMAX, edited entirely on microsoft movie maker and projected through a 15w oven globe, thats how it was did, too real. Can't wait. Nolan is the best. Ironically Oppenheimer felt like it was edited text based with all the pauses deleted. There is no moment of pause in that movie.
This is how I learned to properly edit over 25 years ago... the first two days were strictly paper edits ,for a one hour program for example. It taught us to become story editors first... you literally 'beat-out' your entire episode on paper first, then start working with footage. Love that automation has transformed paper edits into simultaneous timeline edits. Fun times!
That's it, I'm an overalls guy now. Also thanks for the great insight Mark. Definitely need to explore this method down the road, I'm all about efficiency!
It has its niche, that's for sure. For interviews this is an amazing tool. It's never going to replace the human when it comes to building a story, selecting the best b-roll, etc. etc. Cool to see you break it down though, Mark. - A commercial editor of 15 years
@@dongachette8321 Idk man. I don't need my work load to decrease, doing this is what I love and I want to be working on it. AI shouldn't have the ability to make us lazy.
@chrisjonesfilm 1000s of years ago some philosophers thought, writing would hamper memory. It did! But you would be hard pressed to find people now to deny that technology's benefits. We are always afraid of the new, but once the benefits became more valuable, the ones who didn't embrace it usually became the hardest hit victims
@@dongachette8321 I might be missing your point. I'll use this tool for interviews, but I'm not going to cut a film or a commercial with no dialogue using it.
Excellent video Mark! What is your work flow when cutting more than one angle and using the transcript to cut with? I'm a little stumped on how to accomplish it but i'm stoked at the opportunities with text-based editing. Much love from Tennessee 🙏🏼
I love that text based edit. Its so much faster being able to see the story there. But is there any easy way to switch your timeline between premiere and resolve if you have both
damn that's sick information! Thanks for your content. I am editing with fcpx and will not switch, because we can be sure this are very big updates for every editor and apple won't stay behind it. excited to see what apple will bring up the table.
Rushing development on story, production, editing, etc. to such a rapid pace that nobody has time to reflect on what they’re doing and make corrections has become noticeable and not in a good way.
It’s great for stringing sentences together that make sense but a lot of what goes into a statement is the tone of voice the talent says it in. And AI can’t do that. I Imagine them sounding like robots if we just edit based off the text or am I missing something? Lol
I understand how game changer text editing is. We have been doing this for years now with Final Cut Pro and Lumberjack Builder. Welcome to text based editing. By the way, Resolve 18.5 has been out of beta about a week now (from when I posted).
One issue I see with this, Mark, is, in a phrase, jump cuts. I look at Luc Forsyth's RUclips videos, for example, and it's clear he's using this technology to create a very good, concise textual flow. And for what he's doing I guess it's fine, but the reality is that the video ends up being an endless stream of jump cuts. I can't imagine my doc being full of those, although obviously, you'd work on covering with b-roll, using Premier's Morph Cut effect, and otherwise figuring out how to make these cuts look fine. I can't fathom telling the software to remove all pauses or "umms" (particularly with an interviewee that does it a lot) and looking at the video as usable. It's great tech, for sure, but I wonder what your thoughts are on this.
Mark, I'm upgrading my I7 iMac to a new, full boat, Mac Studio as well with the M2 ultra chip with the full 192gb of RAM, maxing it out since its not upgradable. I am curious as to why you chose the M2 Max version.
take the footage out and your a writer telling a tale factor the footage in and boom epic story its very clever tech indeed ,totally has to cut the time down editing takes .great break down mate hope your doing well cheers
Hey Mark, we bought a Max Studio ultra for our studio and it lags using 3 HD camera video files. What are you doing when importing footage or creating sequences? We sent the first Mac Studio back thinking it was faulty but same thing happened again 😊
No kidding. I am about to order a full-boat Mac Studio M2 Ultra. I would be blown away (and not in a good way) if what you describe went on after spending $9K on this thing. Please tell me more about you're experiencing before I pull the trigger!
I can see the advantages, but here's what I don't get about it. If you use the software to delete filler words and pauses, and the video associated with it, doesn't it create disjointed looking jump cuts? I get that you can cover some of them with B Roll or maybe transitions. Similarly, if you rearrange the order of some blocks of text in your timeline, won't you end up with some jarring jump cuts?
I'm using this at the moment. Here's my workflow: Edit together rough interviews and export video and transcript Send both to client Client edits the transcript to how they want it I edit the transcript within Premiere. Easy!
Trint is very cool. I've been using Descript for this purpose as well for years. Once I figured out the Multicam and Resolve turn around workflow it was a game changer.
@@erichroepke502 its just involves rendering out multicams to descript in advance and once you export the xml youi link it back to a timeline with the multicam embedded vs linking back to rendered clip.
Hey Mark, unrelated question Most Tv's and monitors and all iphones have a refresh rate of 30 or 60 hertz. So if I shoot in 24fps, there is 6 frames missing and it gets noticeable when panning and you get stutters, which you don't get if you shoot in 30fps. Unless you watched a 24fps video on a 120 or 144 hertz screen which you can divide by 5 or 6 and get 24. Everyone says 24fps is cinematic because of the motion blur. So you could just shoot in 30fps and use a shutter speed of 1/50th and you'd get the same motion blur, right? And without the stutters. I know that's not the 180 degree rule, but would it matter? Wouldn't I get a higher quality video if I broke the rule in this case and get the smoothness of 30fps on 30/60 hertz screens and have the cinematic motion blur at the same time?
This is crazy good - for english speakers... Even the other supported languages are hit and miss, but I speak a micro language that will possibly never be supported (well).
I'd rather still scrub through footage but I don't edit long form so that's maybe why. Cheers to those of you who will remain true to how you were brought up in this industry..
No love for Descript? Adobe blatantly ripped them. I love Premiere and traditional editing but text based editing is HUGE! You could really level up by dropping the transcript into GPT4 or Claude2 and then prompting it for recommend cuts, scenes, etc. Feed it transcripts of past projects that match the outcome you're going for to serve as context for the model to edit by (shot prompting). You can even give it a desired clip length if you're really needing to cut down to a short form video. I totally agree AI isn't going to replace seasoned film makers, but a seasoned film maker who learns prompt engineering will. Great video, I can't wait to see more! 🤙🏼
2:26 I agree, however timelines for AI can be surprising. For example, when will someone create a Hollywood quality film with only AI? Could be 10 years, 5 years, 10 months, or 10 days. We really don't know.
Script sync came out ages ago, so it's nothing new really. The main difference is that it's free now and you don't have to send it for transcription, which is nice. Probably not so nice for people who used to make living transcribing videos.
Interesting. How accurate is this? As in different speakers, historical footage, etc. If this is actually accurate I wonder why actual transcripts are still so bad. Something isn’t smelling right. I’m seen enough transcripts where entire sentences are missing and entire paragraphs fabricated by the AI that I’m not inclined to trust this. And a few weeks ago I found some historical footage on RUclips; the footage was in Japanese and I would have understood it if I could speak the language, RUclips transcribed it as if it were French or Spanish (don’t remember which one). It’s this bad.
none of this stuff seems fun or cool. it takes all of the actual work and creativity out of it and you're just prompting the bot to do the work. but isn't the work the fun part? the only real strong argument for it is the efficiency but efficiency has always been at odds with creativity. the creative process takes time but it's time well spent because it makes you a better artist.
I disagree, it makes something that's usally tedious into something that's easy and means I can actually focus on the creative stuff and not be burnt out after editing hours worth of interviews.
@@markbone Transcribing is a superb editing tool. I’ve done it for years myself. But allowing an untrustworthy company’s software to scan, copy, and datamine my property and then influence my decisions, when all of my value is in my unique human interpretation, is irresponsible and self-defeating. Nothing about AI is safe or good or accurate or faster or cheaper or better. Humanity FTW.
At the time of recording this, Resolve 18.5 was still in beta but I know that’s changed now, what are your experiences with text based editing and the new version?
which kind of proves your point about things changing so fast
In 10 years from now, Christopher Nolan will come out saying that he prefers traditional editing and we should all go to watch his latest blockbuster because it was all traditionally edited. And we'll eat that up like it's the coolest thing ever.
lol in 10 years we’ll be lucky to have a human involved in general
@@joeyluxx356 Damn right lol
Hahahahaha
Yeah so cool really hope he brings another film of mids and close ups of people talking in small rooms for 3 hours that simply has to be shot IMAX, edited entirely on microsoft movie maker and projected through a 15w oven globe, thats how it was did, too real. Can't wait. Nolan is the best.
Ironically Oppenheimer felt like it was edited text based with all the pauses deleted. There is no moment of pause in that movie.
This is how I learned to properly edit over 25 years ago... the first two days were strictly paper edits ,for a one hour program for example. It taught us to become story editors first... you literally 'beat-out' your entire episode on paper first, then start working with footage. Love that automation has transformed paper edits into simultaneous timeline edits. Fun times!
That's it, I'm an overalls guy now. Also thanks for the great insight Mark. Definitely need to explore this method down the road, I'm all about efficiency!
So crazy! You're essentially merging the paper edit and video edit into one action.
Yea it’s wild!
Always keeping us in the loop and utilizing some of the best cinematic clips of all time with Garth and Derek
This is why I keep coming back!
This is amazing. Great questions being asked and lots of useful takeaway from this.
It has its niche, that's for sure. For interviews this is an amazing tool.
It's never going to replace the human when it comes to building a story, selecting the best b-roll, etc. etc. Cool to see you break it down though, Mark.
- A commercial editor of 15 years
agreed
It's just a tool, and as it gets better, some skills will become irrelevant, but sadly, your workload will never decrease 😢
@@dongachette8321 Idk man. I don't need my work load to decrease, doing this is what I love and I want to be working on it. AI shouldn't have the ability to make us lazy.
@chrisjonesfilm 1000s of years ago some philosophers thought, writing would hamper memory. It did! But you would be hard pressed to find people now to deny that technology's benefits. We are always afraid of the new, but once the benefits became more valuable, the ones who didn't embrace it usually became the hardest hit victims
@@dongachette8321 I might be missing your point. I'll use this tool for interviews, but I'm not going to cut a film or a commercial with no dialogue using it.
This has been Descript's entire business model for at least 3 years now.
I’m hoping AI editing comes out for FCP
Excellent video Mark! What is your work flow when cutting more than one angle and using the transcript to cut with? I'm a little stumped on how to accomplish it but i'm stoked at the opportunities with text-based editing. Much love from Tennessee 🙏🏼
I love that text based edit. Its so much faster being able to see the story there. But is there any easy way to switch your timeline between premiere and resolve if you have both
damn that's sick information! Thanks for your content. I am editing with fcpx and will not switch, because we can be sure this are very big updates for every editor and apple won't stay behind it. excited to see what apple will bring up the table.
good fun and informative! thxs!
Rushing development on story, production, editing, etc. to such a rapid pace that nobody has time to reflect on what they’re doing and make corrections has become noticeable and not in a good way.
Great Video 💪🏼
It’s great for stringing sentences together that make sense but a lot of what goes into a statement is the tone of voice the talent says it in. And AI can’t do that. I Imagine them sounding like robots if we just edit based off the text or am I missing something? Lol
Lumberjack Systems has a module called Builder that has been around for years and is a key part of my text-based editing. Works with Premiere and FCP.
The number of people saying they wouldn't use text based editing in footage with no dialog boggles my mind. Well, yes.
lol😄
I understand how game changer text editing is. We have been doing this for years now with Final Cut Pro and Lumberjack Builder. Welcome to text based editing.
By the way, Resolve 18.5 has been out of beta about a week now (from when I posted).
One issue I see with this, Mark, is, in a phrase, jump cuts. I look at Luc Forsyth's RUclips videos, for example, and it's clear he's using this technology to create a very good, concise textual flow. And for what he's doing I guess it's fine, but the reality is that the video ends up being an endless stream of jump cuts. I can't imagine my doc being full of those, although obviously, you'd work on covering with b-roll, using Premier's Morph Cut effect, and otherwise figuring out how to make these cuts look fine. I can't fathom telling the software to remove all pauses or "umms" (particularly with an interviewee that does it a lot) and looking at the video as usable.
It's great tech, for sure, but I wonder what your thoughts are on this.
Mark, I'm upgrading my I7 iMac to a new, full boat, Mac Studio as well with the M2 ultra chip with the full 192gb of RAM, maxing it out since its not upgradable. I am curious as to why you chose the M2 Max version.
take the footage out and your a writer telling a tale factor the footage in and boom epic story its very clever tech indeed ,totally has to cut the time down editing takes .great break down mate hope your doing well cheers
Love your content. One piece of feedback: I had to dial up the brightness to see your talking heads in this video.
Is this video still current with the resolve final 18.5 release?
Hey Mark, we bought a Max Studio ultra for our studio and it lags using 3 HD camera video files. What are you doing when importing footage or creating sequences? We sent the first Mac Studio back thinking it was faulty but same thing happened again 😊
No kidding. I am about to order a full-boat Mac Studio M2 Ultra. I would be blown away (and not in a good way) if what you describe went on after spending $9K on this thing. Please tell me more about you're experiencing before I pull the trigger!
I can see the advantages, but here's what I don't get about it. If you use the software to delete filler words and pauses, and the video associated with it, doesn't it create disjointed looking jump cuts? I get that you can cover some of them with B Roll or maybe transitions. Similarly, if you rearrange the order of some blocks of text in your timeline, won't you end up with some jarring jump cuts?
I'm using this at the moment. Here's my workflow:
Edit together rough interviews and export video and transcript
Send both to client
Client edits the transcript to how they want it
I edit the transcript within Premiere.
Easy!
Great video, thanks for sharing..
Quick question how do you find the studio display and do you have the standard glass?
Standard
It’s very reflective but easy to look at, rich blacks
Si ! Gracias !
FYI, DR 18.5 is now out of beta.
I think those overalls are a powerful way to enhance the video editor...
Any news about transcription capabilities in FinalCutPro?
I'm trying to import the edl file from trint with no luck any one else have this problem or anyone find a solution?
Sick
Is this working for final cut?
What’s the specs of that Mac Studio?
Trint is very cool. I've been using Descript for this purpose as well for years. Once I figured out the Multicam and Resolve turn around workflow it was a game changer.
What is that exactly? I have been using Descript for years as well and am totally obsessed
@@erichroepke502 its just involves rendering out multicams to descript in advance and once you export the xml youi link it back to a timeline with the multicam embedded vs linking back to rendered clip.
@@avdcam oh wow - that sounds incredible - do you know if there is anywhere online that has instructions for this?
@@erichroepke502 not that I have seen personally. But it just takes a little testing to figure it out,
Mark...You got the meme game on lock.
AI has a long way to go, but in today's world a "long way" is measured in months instead of years.
Hello Mark, What computer do you use for editing and what specs do you recommend? What would you recommend for a budget of $2000
5:27 That’s already been available for a while now 👍🏾
Sweet. Resolve just came out of Beta and I believe has multiple languages now on the text editing. Amazing times
Yes, 15 Languages. Great Results.
The irony of text based editing is the reason I got into videography was because I hate writing and reading….
What's that video game at 3:40? Looks serious fun....
It’s called Trombone Champ
when I grow up I want to be like Mark Bone :)
"I am not a fan of AI, BUT I am fascinated by it"
Hey Mark, unrelated question
Most Tv's and monitors and all iphones have a refresh rate of 30 or 60 hertz. So if I shoot in 24fps, there is 6 frames missing and it gets noticeable when panning and you get stutters, which you don't get if you shoot in 30fps. Unless you watched a 24fps video on a 120 or 144 hertz screen which you can divide by 5 or 6 and get 24. Everyone says 24fps is cinematic because of the motion blur. So you could just shoot in 30fps and use a shutter speed of 1/50th and you'd get the same motion blur, right? And without the stutters. I know that's not the 180 degree rule, but would it matter? Wouldn't I get a higher quality video if I broke the rule in this case and get the smoothness of 30fps on 30/60 hertz screens and have the cinematic motion blur at the same time?
Hey, I'm not mark but I know netflix in Africa required all film to be shot at 1/50 shutter on digital for this reason
@@lisamedlaThanks for answering, that’s interesting. So they didn’t care about the fps but more about the shutterspeed of 1/50th
Your tummy say thank you
This is crazy good - for english speakers... Even the other supported languages are hit and miss, but I speak a micro language that will possibly never be supported (well).
The mic in the thumbnail is distracting Mark. 😂
Great vid though…
FCPX please get text based editing!
Us Final Cut Users in the corner waiting for our turn 😅
I'd rather still scrub through footage but I don't edit long form so that's maybe why. Cheers to those of you who will remain true to how you were brought up in this industry..
mac studio video pleasaaaa.
why did you sold your fx9 i see that your main camera is the fx3 (many say that fx9 is better for doc and the picture is much better)
We still have the fx9
@@markbone you still use the fx9 as main camera or fx3?
No love for Descript? Adobe blatantly ripped them. I love Premiere and traditional editing but text based editing is HUGE! You could really level up by dropping the transcript into GPT4 or Claude2 and then prompting it for recommend cuts, scenes, etc. Feed it transcripts of past projects that match the outcome you're going for to serve as context for the model to edit by (shot prompting). You can even give it a desired clip length if you're really needing to cut down to a short form video. I totally agree AI isn't going to replace seasoned film makers, but a seasoned film maker who learns prompt engineering will. Great video, I can't wait to see more! 🤙🏼
Agreed - seasoned filmmaker with AI text edit tools = golden
Te tengo que traer al canal hacerte un podcast guapa 😘
2:26 I agree, however timelines for AI can be surprising. For example, when will someone create a Hollywood quality film with only AI? Could be 10 years, 5 years, 10 months, or 10 days. We really don't know.
Script sync came out ages ago, so it's nothing new really. The main difference is that it's free now and you don't have to send it for transcription, which is nice. Probably not so nice for people who used to make living transcribing videos.
minute 3:43 got me good xD
Can I get a free M2 Max studio. You said any question.
2nd ;)
Interesting. How accurate is this? As in different speakers, historical footage, etc. If this is actually accurate I wonder why actual transcripts are still so bad. Something isn’t smelling right.
I’m seen enough transcripts where entire sentences are missing and entire paragraphs fabricated by the AI that I’m not inclined to trust this. And a few weeks ago I found some historical footage on RUclips; the footage was in Japanese and I would have understood it if I could speak the language, RUclips transcribed it as if it were French or Spanish (don’t remember which one). It’s this bad.
Descript ? dead already ?
none of this stuff seems fun or cool. it takes all of the actual work and creativity out of it and you're just prompting the bot to do the work. but isn't the work the fun part? the only real strong argument for it is the efficiency but efficiency has always been at odds with creativity. the creative process takes time but it's time well spent because it makes you a better artist.
try taking out all the pauses of an hour worth of interviews ...this process SAVES TIME and leaves more time for the creative part of editing
I disagree, it makes something that's usally tedious into something that's easy and means I can actually focus on the creative stuff and not be burnt out after editing hours worth of interviews.
This is such a terrible idea.
Scripts are terrible ideas?
@@markbone Transcribing is a superb editing tool. I’ve done it for years myself. But allowing an untrustworthy company’s software to scan, copy, and datamine my property and then influence my decisions, when all of my value is in my unique human interpretation, is irresponsible and self-defeating. Nothing about AI is safe or good or accurate or faster or cheaper or better. Humanity FTW.