We look at the PARD DS35 and 008 S side by side and show you the differences. Then we take a look at the daytime and night time performance of both side by side
Outstanding showcase for both - thank you. Will be there be a comparison between the 50mm and 70mm of the DS35 variants? I'd like to see the differing field of views of the two different focal lengths - If I understand the differences correctly.. Definitely a DS35 is on the cards - replacing a returned Sytong HT77.
Thanks - yeah your right the 50mm will have more field of view with its lower magnification and I’ll run them side by side too - they should be released soon; the 70mm 850 and 940 nm LRF models are here or (940) arriving next week - if ya contact us I’ll reserve one for you and let you know
Thank you for the very informative video. Only one question: are the "electronic" ballistic calculator of the DS35 more accurate than the "mechanical" way we use in our regular day scopes, I mean data charts from ballistic sites (JBM, Hornady, etc.), with turret dials ? Thank you.
The mechanical way would be more accurate, given the 5.6 to 11.2 mag vs 4-30 optical allowing the fine adjustments to be seen further out for placement - but for practical hunting (especially at night) its very accurate and we have used to 750m - its also blindingly quick, tag aim and fire; far quicker than dialling - much like Swaro DS, Burris Eliminator etc - also at night this is huge, try ranging, entering data, dialling find it again, its moved … we use it on 45-70 subsonics out to some 250 which is a huge elevation change
That one was in the day 660 yards out of the box on a pig though - several at that range We do have and only use it for extreme range or just lighting up a huge area the coyote cannon turbo - basically a pard out of the box goes as far as you need and to get further you need to go big Never see the point of any NV unit that requires a external torch just to work
Hi excellent video… but tell me I’m thinking of buying one or the other because they both have lrf … but my main question is with my sub 12 ft air rifle if I aim at a pigeon 45,yards up in at tree and I’m 45 yds from the base, will the lrf be able to calculate an accurate shot given the trajectory and upwards gravitational pull on the pellet or is it only good and ground level laser work!
hello friend, my DS35 just arrived how do I measure the distance of the target during the day, since the laser is invisible during the day, since the lasers do not coincide with the secondary reticle, also because for each distance the laser is not always in the same place inside the lens! I can perfectly make the laser coincide with the secondary reticle, making changes in the settings, but in the various distances it is not always in its place, so during the day it is a problem for me to measure the target, especially if we are talking about a small and long target distance, Can you give me some advice on how to do it? Thanks again and congratulations for your videos
Just go out in the evening - doesn’t need to be in a rifle - night mode you will see the flash of the laser rangefinder - pick a bank or tree further than you normally shoot and use that to show the laser flash - then move the LRF aiming box to that. Longer distances are better as it removes move of the angle change
Best to make sure they are 18650 batteries from a good supplier, ours are from Panasonic the GA versions have a nominal rating of 3.6v as do the B versions
Thanks for your reply. I have several Samsung INR18650-35E units. They are 3.7V and should be okay then. I was referreing to my Panasonic 18650 Li-ion 3500 mAh with a tripple protection circuit.
@@owlopticsandoutdoors Yes you are correct my friend. They are a little longer then the flat tops yet they fit. But don't want to put to much pressure on the end caps and springs of the battery compartment so I will not use them. Thanks for your support, all the best wishes for 2023 from the Netherlands. I almost forgot . . . do you know where I can download the latest firmware for the D35 (should there be updates) and is it possible that new firware will increase the number of zooms (more gradual steps) maybe even a 2 or 3 time zoom?
@@jbhk7977 you should be able to get the firmware from the where you got the unit from - currently there aren’t any updates. It is possible that there will be a continuous zoom as thats just software - personally for hunting I like the 2 step zoom being simple and quick. If you use the PIP feature you will actually get 2x the main view in PIP so 22x
Howdy,thanks your reply as im just after buying 1 and waiting for it's arrival in Ireland.if the rangefinder flashing light is near impossible to see in day mode can the rangefinder and balistic calculator work during the day or just nightvision only,also can the laser rangefinder be adjusted around the reticle to suit people's preferences?
Yep sure can - you would use the LRF aiming box (day or night really) as that has the range next to it - the box can be moved to match the laser exactly - the laser cant be moved as its fixed in its housing
Topclass, and thanks again for your reply.glad to hear I can make full use/advantage of lrf and balistic calculator during the day as prob no point in going for it really.i must make the time to go through your other RUclips videos as they seem very detail and full of info as ive just subscribed👍
@@owlopticsandoutdoors ok thanks,i saw your video on the pard 007s and was considering this because the wifi could be completely disabled,but would prefer the 008,thanks again
008s looks much better in daytime. in night without IR DS35 had more aggresive noise reduction (it is not a good thing - looks smooth tough). what happened at the video end?
The ds35 is a better image daytime as well - especially with lens cap and iris - colours are nicer. The 008 s has a higher magnification being 6.5 vs 5.6 which will contribute to what your seeing I think, looking at the cows - nothing more at end was a bit of a short finish due to some loud noises occurring in the recording that we didn’t notice while filming
Depends on the model - they different lenses - we don’t have the 008 anymore - ds has circular eye piece as well - specs and figures don’t tell the real story for usability
Awesome comparison Fraser and beautiful country.
Nice job, would like too SEE more nightfilming, While working and ajusting the IR... And messuring distance... Thx for det uploads
Yep will be out hunting shortly, just the amount of rain we have had has stopped us - shortly though
Nice video,
Outstanding showcase for both - thank you.
Will be there be a comparison between the 50mm and 70mm of the DS35 variants? I'd like to see the differing field of views of the two different focal lengths - If I understand the differences correctly.. Definitely a DS35 is on the cards - replacing a returned Sytong HT77.
Thanks - yeah your right the 50mm will have more field of view with its lower magnification and I’ll run them side by side too - they should be released soon; the 70mm 850 and 940 nm LRF models are here or (940) arriving next week - if ya contact us I’ll reserve one for you and let you know
Hi
Would have been good to see the colour pellets, yellow and green.
To get a feild view in those conditions.
Thanks for the information.
Yep will be showing those, it was the only nice day for a while - will be doing a hunting video shortly
A great comparison.
What program do you use to edit your PARD videos so you don't lose quality?
I use lumafusion
Thank you for the very informative video. Only one question: are the "electronic" ballistic calculator of the DS35 more accurate than the "mechanical" way we use in our regular day scopes, I mean data charts from ballistic sites (JBM, Hornady, etc.), with turret dials ? Thank you.
The mechanical way would be more accurate, given the 5.6 to 11.2 mag vs 4-30 optical allowing the fine adjustments to be seen further out for placement - but for practical hunting (especially at night) its very accurate and we have used to 750m - its also blindingly quick, tag aim and fire; far quicker than dialling - much like Swaro DS, Burris Eliminator etc - also at night this is huge, try ranging, entering data, dialling find it again, its moved … we use it on 45-70 subsonics out to some 250 which is a huge elevation change
@@owlopticsandoutdoors , 750m? That´s outstanding. What type of IR illuminator do you use for that distances?
That one was in the day
660 yards out of the box on a pig though - several at that range
We do have and only use it for extreme range or just lighting up a huge area the coyote cannon turbo - basically a pard out of the box goes as far as you need and to get further you need to go big
Never see the point of any NV unit that requires a external torch just to work
Hi excellent video… but tell me I’m thinking of buying one or the other because they both have lrf … but my main question is with my sub 12 ft air rifle if I aim at a pigeon 45,yards up in at tree and I’m 45 yds from the base, will the lrf be able to calculate an accurate shot given the trajectory and upwards gravitational pull on the pellet or is it only good and ground level laser work!
I meant downwards gravitational pull on the pellet.
Show amigão like garantido 👍👍 Tmj sempre grande abraço 🙏🙏🇧🇷
The IR lamp from the PARD NV008S it's dimmable? Can we change it and buy it separately from the device?
Thanks
It’s has 3 power levels, no it’s built into the unit
Good 👍👍
hello friend, my DS35 just arrived how do I measure the distance of the target during the day, since the laser is invisible during the day, since the lasers do not coincide with the secondary reticle, also because for each distance the laser is not always in the same place inside the lens! I can perfectly make the laser coincide with the secondary reticle, making changes in the settings, but in the various distances it is not always in its place, so during the day it is a problem for me to measure the target, especially if we are talking about a small and long target distance,
Can you give me some advice on how to do it? Thanks again and congratulations for your videos
Just go out in the evening - doesn’t need to be in a rifle - night mode you will see the flash of the laser rangefinder - pick a bank or tree further than you normally shoot and use that to show the laser flash - then move the LRF aiming box to that. Longer distances are better as it removes move of the angle change
Nice comparisson my friend. I have several 18650 batteries, but some of them are 3.6v in stead of 3,7v. Do you know if the 3.6v can harm the unit?
Best to make sure they are 18650 batteries from a good supplier, ours are from Panasonic the GA versions have a nominal rating of 3.6v as do the B versions
Thanks for your reply. I have several Samsung INR18650-35E units. They are 3.7V and should be okay then. I was referreing to my Panasonic 18650 Li-ion 3500 mAh with a tripple protection circuit.
Are those protected? All the pards take flat top batteries - the protected versions are longer and won’t fit
@@owlopticsandoutdoors Yes you are correct my friend. They are a little longer then the flat tops yet they fit. But don't want to put to much pressure on the end caps and springs of the battery compartment so I will not use them. Thanks for your support, all the best wishes for 2023 from the Netherlands. I almost forgot . . . do you know where I can download the latest firmware for the D35 (should there be updates) and is it possible that new firware will increase the number of zooms (more gradual steps) maybe even a 2 or 3 time zoom?
@@jbhk7977 you should be able to get the firmware from the where you got the unit from - currently there aren’t any updates. It is possible that there will be a continuous zoom as thats just software - personally for hunting I like the 2 step zoom being simple and quick. If you use the PIP feature you will actually get 2x the main view in PIP so 22x
И ещё скажите пожалуйста DS35 встроенный баллистический калькулятор считает вертикальные углы наклона ?
No not currently
Hi,is it difficult to see the flashing light for the rangefinder during day mode?
Yep pretty much impossible, night mode in day May show it depending on the light or what it’s reflecting off - evenings is easy though
Howdy,thanks your reply as im just after buying 1 and waiting for it's arrival in Ireland.if the rangefinder flashing light is near impossible to see in day mode can the rangefinder and balistic calculator work during the day or just nightvision only,also can the laser rangefinder be adjusted around the reticle to suit people's preferences?
Yep sure can - you would use the LRF aiming box (day or night really) as that has the range next to it - the box can be moved to match the laser exactly - the laser cant be moved as its fixed in its housing
Topclass, and thanks again for your reply.glad to hear I can make full use/advantage of lrf and balistic calculator during the day as prob no point in going for it really.i must make the time to go through your other RUclips videos as they seem very detail and full of info as ive just subscribed👍
hi owl optics,could you tell me if you can completley dissable bluetooth/wifi on these scopes,thanks
It’s off by default - but there isn’t a way to physically remove it
Look for the wifi logo on the screen - should have a / through it
@@owlopticsandoutdoors ok thanks,i saw your video on the pard 007s and was considering this because the wifi could be completely disabled,but would prefer the 008,thanks again
In both models (all models), the wifi is off by default - I will have a side by side with the 007 SP and the DS35 soon as back out there too
@@owlopticsandoutdoors ok ill look out for it ,thanks
008s looks much better in daytime. in night without IR DS35 had more aggresive noise reduction (it is not a good thing - looks smooth tough). what happened at the video end?
The ds35 is a better image daytime as well - especially with lens cap and iris - colours are nicer. The 008 s has a higher magnification being 6.5 vs 5.6 which will contribute to what your seeing I think, looking at the cows - nothing more at end was a bit of a short finish due to some loud noises occurring in the recording that we didn’t notice while filming
Any eta on the 50mm version.
Soon, dont have a exact date though
Due around February
Привет друг . Так какой в итоге прибор лучше?
The new DS
@@owlopticsandoutdoors спасибо за ответ))
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Pard ds lrf or 008sp2 lrf?
Sorry missed this - DS for sure - 100mm of eye relief along makes it so nice to use and natural like glass scopes
@@owlopticsandoutdoors on which is better field of vision?
Depends on the model - they different lenses - we don’t have the 008 anymore - ds has circular eye piece as well - specs and figures don’t tell the real story for usability
@@owlopticsandoutdoors web says ds 35 70 59m/1000 m, NV008SP2 80/1000m
Pard nv008s je bolji po meni jer ima dosta veci zum 26 x naspram DS35 od 11.2x sto nije mala stvar
Hi
It also has the PIP which doubles the mag as well. I will show it in the next video along with the colours
Pity i could not hear a thing
Nothing wrong with the sound it’s working fine
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