What a ride! Can’t believe that the WR250R is such a trail beast!! I just bought one but not for single tracking. It’s good to know it will brap up the trails. I’m sure you have changed the sprockets. Around bend Oregon out!
Pretty impressive that you guys would take your dual-sport bikes on those trails. It looked more like a lightweight 2 stroke deal. I got tired just watching the video! Good job fellas.
@@GeezerEnduro I have a wr250r and if you did that on stock trail wing tires you deserve a medal! I have Kenda trackmaster II rear and washougal front for next season
@@northerntoyota7584 Yeah a medal for dumbest rider of the day, lol. I had Michelin T63, not the best, Honda guy had stock tires which is crazy looking back.
The 250l with a 13T sprocket/42T and the right Tyre is a capable and fun bike to navigate. I manage to beat serious and fast riders as I was the photographer and had to go on the front.
Or we're just dumb. My other video 'dual sports on a black diamond trail' was more difficult terrain but this ride was so slick it turned it into a serious challenge.
Crf250l is the bike I want that is how I found your channel I search videos with that bike in them u make some very good videos u got a subscribe from me.
Not Dual Sport'n What I meant is some "heavy/hard terrain", my mistake (english isn't my first language so...) But yeah, I feel you, can't wait for spring already!
Was there anywhere on this course you needed a plate for? Seems like who ever set this course up thought they were setting up a Hare Scramble race, not a dual sport course. Would be fun on a woods bike, looked kinda sadistic on a heavy dual sport. No chance unless you had barely legal knobbies. Remind me to not go to one of these guys dual sport rides unless I can ride my 2 stroke.
Awesome brother, keep on riding! I'm 50 and rode with a 61 yr old dude last year, total Inspiration, check out his riding in this other vid of mine ruclips.net/video/mlSiLzzDWiQ/видео.html
If you need a 'Do everything' bike, it's tough to beat. I found myself loving more technical single track, so I got a Husky 300 2-Stroke which is light years better....but obviously you're not riding that on the road. I recently picked up an older '07 KTM 450 Dual Sport and the additional power is awesome, but there's nothing wrong with the WR, great suspension out of the box, super reliable.
After seeing the two models working so hard to climb these trails, I think I'll go for a Beta 300 Xtrainer. Great low end grunt but not great on the street.
Good choice. All I was doing was single track, so I was on the wrong bike. Just picked up a TE300, it's awesome. Still loved the WR250R though, outstanding all-round bike that can do some serious off-road stuff.
Very technical terrain, great job! I would say work on your stand up riding, your body inertia is working against you... and add a camera on the rear so we can see those roster tails!!!
Not Dual Sport'n hahah I had a gut feeling and I live half way around the world, and was just going on a gut feeling, it’s been a child hood dream of mine to ride those kind of tracks! do you mind if I ask what state it’s in ?
Not sure Graham Jarvis or Jonny Walker would agree with that, but with basic riding skill-set there's no reason you can't go many of the same places as lighter 2 strokes. Not really about the bike, more the rider. Although I'd be happy to have a Husqvarna TE300, lol.
Wish I was running the Track Masters. The WR in front of me has the Kenda's and while he's a better rider, those tires are clearly biting into that muck much better than the new Michelin T63's I put on. Still a good tire, much better than the stock tires I had.
The Yami did really well threw this eh! Nice work. Talk about a slick day. Some tricky switch backs and narly bits. Were there any KTM 500 or FE 501 in this terrain. Doable for the larger cc's eh?
WADZ UP Mostly 2 strokes and light 4 strokes, but there were 2 older Husaberg 501's that handled all the 'A' tracks just fine. I go by them on steep climb near the end. Good riders. New versions probably a bunch lighter than our pigs, should be just fine. But its all about rider ability, the bike brand/type not that important.
No but Honda rider spent $thousands trying to make it better. Fuel programmer, full exhaust, $2000 Race Tech suspension. It was still slower, and the WR suspension is so good out of the box. Biggest issue with CRFL is the ground clearance is terrible. They WR is more money, but it's better in all the areas that matter, clearance, suspension, power. All I did was change rear sprocket, otherwise stock. I sold it and now ride a TE300, but I still miss the front forks of that WR, it just ate anything in it's path.
We sold them and bought 2 strokes. They're way too heavy, low power, the Honda has bad ground clearance. If I ever get another dual sport it will be a ktm 250 or 350 excf, they're worth the extra money!
@@MrRhix Generally as much as you can off road. I know it seems counterintuitive but standing allows the bike to get over the terrain more easily and allows it to do all the work, while your body flexes at the natural joints but allows you to apply pressure to go in the direction you need. There are a bunch of good instructional videos by way better riders than me. Get yourself a dual sport and try this doesn't need to be expensive thing to get into.
I usually stand up 90% of time, but this top heavy bike in this slippery of conditions was not working, even the really good riders were sitting way more than normal this ride
Awesome video. Videos never ever do justice to the steepness of terrain and that stuff looked gnarly. Amazing job. On my end we have CRF250L and WR250R as well as Vstroms and impressed with what you guys did on them! @@GeezerEnduro
@ A C: What video did you watch? I saw the CRF250L ahead of "Not Dual Sport'n" struggle several times whereas the WR NotDS'n was riding just kept chugging along when he wasn't waiting for the CRF dude or some other dude to get out of the way or get going again.
Well people were speaking English but not sure what planet you were actually on. Awful looking place to ride. I will say that i found myself leaning forward in my chair trying to shift weight and standing up but it wasn't working. So, i guess i'll have to find out where this type of riding is and get one of those impressive little thumpers. Fun vid and nice riding.
you guys are nuts doing those trails on dualsport bikes. sick video.....
Wow!!! By far one of the best DUAL SPORT trail riding video I have seen... Hell yeah!!!
Absolutely insane. This is proper enduro trail but you did it with dualsports. I like it.
Awesome work, guys! Impressive on those bikes.
You know it is steep when it looks steep on camera!!
What a ride! Can’t believe that the WR250R is such a trail beast!! I just bought one but not for single tracking. It’s good to know it will brap up the trails. I’m sure you have changed the sprockets. Around bend Oregon out!
I just found this channel...love it
I think I said, "Holy Shit!" as much as you did. Damn, that's hardcore.
Whatever phone mount you have works really fucking good!
Nice trail - impressive you guys were handling that on the WR and CRF-L. Bet that was a workout!
Pretty impressive that you guys would take your dual-sport bikes on those trails. It looked more like a lightweight 2 stroke deal. I got tired just watching the video! Good job fellas.
I was pretty tired after 4 hours of that stuff, but still a bunch of fun though. I'll definitely do it again, but with 90/10 tires next time.
Most the time it comes down to dot tires being the big downfall to a very capable bike
But riders skills come into play
MT21s
@@GeezerEnduro I have a wr250r and if you did that on stock trail wing tires you deserve a medal! I have Kenda trackmaster II rear and washougal front for next season
@@northerntoyota7584 Yeah a medal for dumbest rider of the day, lol. I had Michelin T63, not the best, Honda guy had stock tires which is crazy looking back.
Nice meeting up and riding with you guys!
Good to meet you, great ride. My goal is to be as fast as you one day.....probably won't happen but will be fun trying
What an awesome trail with water rapids thrown in 👍
Hats off to you guys. That was a challenging trail to say the least.
I'd be all over that on my little scooter. The 250l's are amazing little machines.
I've got one it is but heavy
When the dual sports are performing better than the ktm enduro bikes... 👍
I'm just surprised that your mirror survived. ;-)
Great vid. I'm wore out just watching it.
The 250l with a 13T sprocket/42T and the right Tyre is a capable and fun bike to navigate. I manage to beat serious and fast riders as I was the photographer and had to go on the front.
Flipping impressive and inspiring man! Agree, that takes patience and balls to do on a 4 stroke DS vs dirt.
Or we're just dumb. My other video 'dual sports on a black diamond trail' was more difficult terrain but this ride was so slick it turned it into a serious challenge.
Best riding video Ive seen in weeks!!
Crf250l is the bike I want that is how I found your channel I search videos with that bike in them u make some very good videos u got a subscribe from me.
That's brutal, I'm suprised the 2 strokes did it without fouling plugs like crazy.
I really like the looks of that trail✌️
Looks like y'all had a blast! Awesome video :D
Damn that's some heavy riding! Can't wait for next summer already!
Heavy is right. I'm 50 lbs lighter now on a TE300. Just staring at the snow out my window and wishing spring was here already.
Not Dual Sport'n What I meant is some "heavy/hard terrain", my mistake (english isn't my first language so...)
But yeah, I feel you, can't wait for spring already!
Good riding Mike, was chasing you all day....that end wipe out i was behind you 50 feet flat on my ass...... good times!!
Great day man! What you did on those half worn out stock tires is pretty bloody amazing....
Nice riding!
:D "What are those marks on the tree for?" ... Crunch! .. Hahaha
That looked like fun but I'd rather be on my XTrainer for that stuff. Nice clutch work bro. 👍
XTrainer would rail through that place, very cool bike, enjoy!
Man those old growth forests just seem so sick to me bruh
gnarly. i'm jealous
Was there anywhere on this course you needed a plate for? Seems like who ever set this course up thought they were setting up a Hare Scramble race, not a dual sport course. Would be fun on a woods bike, looked kinda sadistic on a heavy dual sport. No chance unless you had barely legal knobbies.
Remind me to not go to one of these guys dual sport rides unless I can ride my 2 stroke.
That is a little to risky for this 62 year old dual sport rider from San Diego. Very cool to watch-
Awesome brother, keep on riding! I'm 50 and rode with a 61 yr old dude last year, total Inspiration, check out his riding in this other vid of mine ruclips.net/video/mlSiLzzDWiQ/видео.html
Because of this video my next bike is wr250r
If you need a 'Do everything' bike, it's tough to beat. I found myself loving more technical single track, so I got a Husky 300 2-Stroke which is light years better....but obviously you're not riding that on the road. I recently picked up an older '07 KTM 450 Dual Sport and the additional power is awesome, but there's nothing wrong with the WR, great suspension out of the box, super reliable.
Washington state has some of the best riding
These trails look ideal for the 2019 CRF250F
Would be,go for it.
Beautiful terrain
I would never take my shiny new KLX250 out on this mud bath track. How many mirrors were crushed on those trees?
Then you ain't living your fullest life 😁
I knew it was tamahai as soon as I saw the loading area right on nice vic
WR250R is the most capable dual sport bike. CRF250L is the easiest dual sport bike to handle.
Very good adv.video !
looks like a lot of fun!
i love this trail..almost like here in san jose occidental mindoro
dual sport for LIFE
Well at least for a year and half...... then get a 300 two stroke....... which is what I did
Proper trail ride, nice!
Gnarly day! Good times
wow was that an electic start 2storke? cool
After seeing the two models working so hard to climb these trails, I think I'll go for a Beta 300 Xtrainer. Great low end grunt but not great on the street.
Good choice. All I was doing was single track, so I was on the wrong bike. Just picked up a TE300, it's awesome. Still loved the WR250R though, outstanding all-round bike that can do some serious off-road stuff.
yamaha the best
Very technical terrain, great job! I would say work on your stand up riding, your body inertia is working against you... and add a camera on the rear so we can see those roster tails!!!
have you put a 39 or 40 tooth sprocket on the rear? or added new tires like some have to the wr250?
If that was a "Newbie" ride, I'd not want to see the "Oldbie" ride!!!
Where are these tracks?? Look like out of RAMBO!👍👍
This is about a half hour away from where they filmed Rambo!
Not Dual Sport'n hahah I had a gut feeling and I live half way around the world, and was just going on a gut feeling, it’s been a child hood dream of mine to ride those kind of tracks! do you mind if I ask what state it’s in ?
@@whynot0969
This is Chilliwack, British Columbia Canada, not far from Hope, BC where the movie was filmed
Give me that 4 stroke grunt any day on trails like this ..2 strokes are fun but not for rough trial riding where you needs loads of bottom end grunt
Not sure Graham Jarvis or Jonny Walker would agree with that, but with basic riding skill-set there's no reason you can't go many of the same places as lighter 2 strokes. Not really about the bike, more the rider. Although I'd be happy to have a Husqvarna TE300, lol.
Nice hard ride, I ride trails that steep/tight in Colorado, but nowhere near as muddy! What tires are you running Kenda track masters?
Wish I was running the Track Masters. The WR in front of me has the Kenda's and while he's a better rider, those tires are clearly biting into that muck much better than the new Michelin T63's I put on. Still a good tire, much better than the stock tires I had.
Nice! Who do I have to blow to get that track?
The Yami did really well threw this eh! Nice work. Talk about a slick day. Some tricky switch backs and narly bits. Were there any KTM 500 or FE 501 in this terrain. Doable for the larger cc's eh?
WADZ UP
Mostly 2 strokes and light 4 strokes, but there were 2 older Husaberg 501's that handled all the 'A' tracks just fine. I go by them on steep climb near the end. Good riders. New versions probably a bunch lighter than our pigs, should be just fine. But its all about rider ability, the bike brand/type not that important.
Dual Sport'n awesome well thats the kind of technical I'd like to have a go at.
WADZ UP
I'd call Tamahi flowy, you should do McNutt for technical, I love the challenge in there
Nice!!!!
What tires did you spoon on for this weekend?
Michelin T63's. Switched to D606 after, they're a little better
The Honda is more tractable & it shows it
Did the wr250r do better than the CRF250L on those trails or was it about equal?
OhioPreparedness CRF250L
Where was this ?
thanks great vid by the way
Just makes you want to sit down between the trees and meditate on silence :-)
Did you guys happen to swap bikes to compare the crf to the wr? These are nice bikes..
No but Honda rider spent $thousands trying to make it better. Fuel programmer, full exhaust, $2000 Race Tech suspension. It was still slower, and the WR suspension is so good out of the box. Biggest issue with CRFL is the ground clearance is terrible. They WR is more money, but it's better in all the areas that matter, clearance, suspension, power. All I did was change rear sprocket, otherwise stock. I sold it and now ride a TE300, but I still miss the front forks of that WR, it just ate anything in it's path.
people who throw money to mod a crf250l is wasting their money
I wish Yamaha come out a WR350R or 400R, and under 140 kg
Marking them trees :)
nice...
dual sport'n what gearing do you have on the bike
13-47. Seems to work fine. Might go to a 48 next season as I start stalling a little bit when I get lazy.
Guessin' this is all on stock tires. I know ya boy on the CRF250L is on stocks.
WR had Michelin T63 which pretty much suck on this terrain. We're on 2 strokes now with Tubliss
Yeah, most DOTs aren't any good on mud/wet off-road.
How is crf 250l doing in this case? I am thinking about getting one.
We sold them and bought 2 strokes. They're way too heavy, low power, the Honda has bad ground clearance. If I ever get another dual sport it will be a ktm 250 or 350 excf, they're worth the extra money!
Thank you for info
WR250R > KLX250 > CRF250L
Looks like the dirt bike had lotta probs but the ds bikes did pretty good, honda did better here, but both great ds bikes
Do you has CRF250 View?
ruclips.net/video/HtbGpyPnVzA/видео.html
Are those oem tires?
James M
Not on the Yamaha, Michelin T63, now have Dunlop D606. Honda had stock tires and traction was a serious issue.
That was more like Romainiacs..
Gas the hell out of it, that looked fun
everything you did would have been much easier if you stood up more
i never rode dirtbikes and never been offroad. I'm curious, in what situations should you stand up?
@@MrRhix Generally as much as you can off road. I know it seems counterintuitive but standing allows the bike to get over the terrain more easily and allows it to do all the work, while your body flexes at the natural joints but allows you to apply pressure to go in the direction you need. There are a bunch of good instructional videos by way better riders than me. Get yourself a dual sport and try this doesn't need to be expensive thing to get into.
Armchair riders.
I usually stand up 90% of time, but this top heavy bike in this slippery of conditions was not working, even the really good riders were sitting way more than normal this ride
Awesome video. Videos never ever do justice to the steepness of terrain and that stuff looked gnarly. Amazing job. On my end we have CRF250L and WR250R as well as Vstroms and impressed with what you guys did on them! @@GeezerEnduro
The Honda CRF250L did better. The Yamaha was struggling & all over the place while the Honda kept chugging ahead. Honda Wins!
I guess it is 90% rider skill here.
@ A C: What video did you watch? I saw the CRF250L ahead of "Not Dual Sport'n" struggle several times whereas the WR NotDS'n was riding just kept chugging along when he wasn't waiting for the CRF dude or some other dude to get out of the way or get going again.
Yeah... CBR street motor, non-adjustable suspension, about 30lbs heavier, and about 5 less horsepower... definitely a “win”
This is your noob ride?!
I like the RMX 250. Pretty rare bike.
Well people were speaking English but not sure what planet you were actually on. Awful looking place to ride. I will say that i found myself leaning forward in my chair trying to shift weight and standing up but it wasn't working. So, i guess i'll have to find out where this type of riding is and get one of those impressive little thumpers. Fun vid and nice riding.
All the dudes stopped or standing in the trail is annoying af!
looks like a bunch of waste land...ugh!
Jesus, that looks like zero fun...