Thanks for the video. If I ever get back into sewing again, underwear will be the first thing I make since I have yet to find any modern underwear that is 100% cotton and/or silk that is made with any quality (as opposed to 20 years ago). To model them, you could wear bike shorts or leggings underneath. 1:54 For future tap pants, I recommend finding a pattern that does not have the seam going up the back. More comfortable and hygienic to not be flossed. On the "LTUE - Life, the Universe, and Everything" channel's video "The Briefs on Knickers: Underwear through the Ages" they have an image of a McCall's pattern at the 15:20 mark. I'll link it in a separate comment since RUclips usually deletes/hides comments with links.
Due to sensory issues, I don't own any type of pant garment or leggings so there really is no way to model the garments. I've found the back seam doesn't bother me too much-they're large enough on me to not cause an issue but I could always use more patterns to try something different next time!
Slightly later by a few years but my secondary school had nylons as part of the uniform and I hate wearing nylons so mum dug out her old 1950s part girdle*/6 clips suspender belt and another that was a 4 clip suspender belt and I wore them with stockings throughout my secondary school years and well into my working life at a bank. Until I literally wore them out and couldn't replace them - modern ones being lacy, more elastic than fabric, and intended for show/short term wear rather than wearing to the office for 8hours+ a day. Knickers go on over the suspender belt/girdle so going to the loo is quick [far quicker and easier than with nylons/tights] and easy. I was going to try making a suspender belt for myself - I can still remember the design of mums ones - but managed to find a company that makes replica 1950s ones that actually go up to plus sizes as well. I purchased one and love it, will be buying another and will return to wearing stockings again. I like the front opening bra, I've not managed to find any to buy so I buy ones from my local Marks & Spencers [I'm in Ireland] and simply sew up the back fastening and cut open the front, bind, and add loops on both sides then spiral lace. A bit of work but worth it [have arthritis, can't do up a back fastening bra] and I can dress myself without help.
Thank you so much for your insights! Everyone is saying pants over girdle, which is still weird to me but if that's the way it is done, then I'll do it. Thank you! I love front opening bras. They are so convenient.
its interesting that the tap pant closes in the back rather than the side like the 1940s models. I would think they would want to have a flat line in front and back since the 30s styles are so form fitting. As far as girdles go I think it's just a matter of choice for the wearer. Some wore underwear over their girdle- which is a common thing even with garter belts. I have also been told that with long line girdles they would just go without underwear since nothing was being seen anyway and it made using the restroom easier.
I think it's just my 19th century sensibilities messing with me. I feel as though "corset garments" like a girdle don't belong next to the skin. In the 19th century, you had combinations or chemise/drawers to separate the corset from the body. It just seems gross to me to have a garment that isn't washed as often as other garments to be that close to the body. But maybe girdles were washed more frequently than I think. Thank you for the input!
I have a couple of suggestions for wearing both tap pants and a girdle, though I’m not sure how historically accurate they are. 1. Put the girdle on first and wear the tap pants over top. 2. Add a snap closure to the bottom of the tap pants. Hooks and eyes would also work if the fit is too tight for snaps to stay closed. I know this was a common practice in the nineteen teens and twenties.
My 1910s/1920s chemise has snaps at the bottom that I can unsnap for restroom purposes! I haven't seen it past the 20s, though, which seems strange-it looks to me to be an excellent solution for the problem. I think everyone else agreed that girdle goes first then tap pants, which is still very strange to me. Thanks for the help!
My great grandma was born in 1903 and i dont remember how it came up, but i was a very little kid and i remember her showing me what she used to wear and for sure the undies were over the straps that held up her hose back in the day.
Thank you so much! I knew there were people out there who knew-this was the norm only 70 or 80 years ago and there are still plenty of people who dressed this way alive today or people who knew people who dressed that way.
As a child 70 yrs ago now I remember my elderly neighbour wore pink flesh colour bloomers in an interlock cotton type fabric. They came down to just above the knee baggy held in with elastic but looked very comfy (now). Then I thought of my they look awful but now if I could find a pattern I’d make them and wear with pride.
I have a couple of pairs made from old cotton knit sheets. I just made them using a homemade trouser pattern with the legs cut to just above the knee, hemmed and elasticated. I wear them in winter as they are much warmer than normal knickers. I know a couple of plus size women who made their own to wear in summer out of lightweight cotton sheets [cheapest way to buy large pieces of cotton] as they stop their thighs rubbing in the heat, much cooler and more comfortable than shapewear in the heat [which is what many channels suggest you try apparently].
Just seeing this video now and commiserating with you over sewing with the charmeuse! I haven't made anything with charmeuse (I have pretty much sworn off it, like you), but I have repaired and altered things for theater costuming. I never had the opportunity to try it, but I wonder if spray-starching the charmeuse before cutting out and sewing, would make it lie better and not be so creepy-crawly when you sew it? Then you could wash out the starch later. Have you ever tried this?
I haven't tried starching it yet, but I would worry about water spots or stains the starch may leave. But I guess it's underwear so I doesn't really matter.
If the girdle has suspenders for your stockings, then it’s worn underneath the tap pants (yes, yucky!). If it’s just for shapewear (usually pull-on girdles) then you just pull it down at the same time as the underwear.
Thank you! Mine is a regular girdle with suspenders so I guess I'll have to suck it up and do tap pants over top. At that point, I'm not sure I see the point of wearing the tap pants with a girdle, though. They seem a moot point.
The consensus from everyone is girdle first then tap pants overtop. It's messing with my 19th century sensibilities to have a corset-like garment right next to the skin, but everyone is saying the same thing so I just have to get used to it.
I think much of it was for advertising purposes, even now when you see suspender belts being advertised you see them worn over knickers but anyone who has worn them as a daily item of clothing - rather than in the bedroom at night or out to a nightclub - will tell you you wear them UNDER the knickers and not over. Not unless you want to undo the suspenders every time you visit the ladies at any rate.
I have wondered myself about the girdle/underwear. Under the girdle and you have trouble using the bathroom and the hose bunches at the thigh. Over the girdle and it seems odd.
I agree. It also grosses me out to have a girdle that probably isn't washed as often as other underwear right next to the body without a washable barrier. But what do I know? This isn't my time period. At least my 1920s chemise/slip has snaps that I can unsnap to use the restroom.
@KatelynKearns the long line girdles and corsets just seem impractical for bodily functions. I do know that furniture was made differently to accommodate women and their clothes throughout time. Our big , comfy soft couches would be impossible to get in and out of in corsets
Thanks for the video. If I ever get back into sewing again, underwear will be the first thing I make since I have yet to find any modern underwear that is 100% cotton and/or silk that is made with any quality (as opposed to 20 years ago).
To model them, you could wear bike shorts or leggings underneath.
1:54 For future tap pants, I recommend finding a pattern that does not have the seam going up the back. More comfortable and hygienic to not be flossed.
On the "LTUE - Life, the Universe, and Everything" channel's video "The Briefs on Knickers: Underwear through the Ages" they have an image of a McCall's pattern at the 15:20 mark. I'll link it in a separate comment since RUclips usually deletes/hides comments with links.
Due to sensory issues, I don't own any type of pant garment or leggings so there really is no way to model the garments. I've found the back seam doesn't bother me too much-they're large enough on me to not cause an issue but I could always use more patterns to try something different next time!
Slightly later by a few years but my secondary school had nylons as part of the uniform and I hate wearing nylons so mum dug out her old 1950s part girdle*/6 clips suspender belt and another that was a 4 clip suspender belt and I wore them with stockings throughout my secondary school years and well into my working life at a bank. Until I literally wore them out and couldn't replace them - modern ones being lacy, more elastic than fabric, and intended for show/short term wear rather than wearing to the office for 8hours+ a day. Knickers go on over the suspender belt/girdle so going to the loo is quick [far quicker and easier than with nylons/tights] and easy.
I was going to try making a suspender belt for myself - I can still remember the design of mums ones - but managed to find a company that makes replica 1950s ones that actually go up to plus sizes as well. I purchased one and love it, will be buying another and will return to wearing stockings again.
I like the front opening bra, I've not managed to find any to buy so I buy ones from my local Marks & Spencers [I'm in Ireland] and simply sew up the back fastening and cut open the front, bind, and add loops on both sides then spiral lace. A bit of work but worth it [have arthritis, can't do up a back fastening bra] and I can dress myself without help.
Thank you so much for your insights! Everyone is saying pants over girdle, which is still weird to me but if that's the way it is done, then I'll do it. Thank you! I love front opening bras. They are so convenient.
Very pretty, i remember my nan wearing a girdle and it was knickers over the girdle ❤
Thank you so much for your insight!
its interesting that the tap pant closes in the back rather than the side like the 1940s models. I would think they would want to have a flat line in front and back since the 30s styles are so form fitting.
As far as girdles go I think it's just a matter of choice for the wearer. Some wore underwear over their girdle- which is a common thing even with garter belts. I have also been told that with long line girdles they would just go without underwear since nothing was being seen anyway and it made using the restroom easier.
I think it's just my 19th century sensibilities messing with me. I feel as though "corset garments" like a girdle don't belong next to the skin. In the 19th century, you had combinations or chemise/drawers to separate the corset from the body. It just seems gross to me to have a garment that isn't washed as often as other garments to be that close to the body. But maybe girdles were washed more frequently than I think. Thank you for the input!
I have a couple of suggestions for wearing both tap pants and a girdle, though I’m not sure how historically accurate they are. 1. Put the girdle on first and wear the tap pants over top. 2. Add a snap closure to the bottom of the tap pants. Hooks and eyes would also work if the fit is too tight for snaps to stay closed. I know this was a common practice in the nineteen teens and twenties.
My 1910s/1920s chemise has snaps at the bottom that I can unsnap for restroom purposes! I haven't seen it past the 20s, though, which seems strange-it looks to me to be an excellent solution for the problem. I think everyone else agreed that girdle goes first then tap pants, which is still very strange to me. Thanks for the help!
My great grandma was born in 1903 and i dont remember how it came up, but i was a very little kid and i remember her showing me what she used to wear and for sure the undies were over the straps that held up her hose back in the day.
Thank you so much! I knew there were people out there who knew-this was the norm only 70 or 80 years ago and there are still plenty of people who dressed this way alive today or people who knew people who dressed that way.
As a child 70 yrs ago now I remember my elderly neighbour wore pink flesh colour bloomers in an interlock cotton type fabric. They came down to just above the knee baggy held in with elastic but looked very comfy (now). Then I thought of my they look awful but now if I could find a pattern I’d make them and wear with pride.
The old styles of underwear do seem to be a lot more comfortable than most modern pieces!
I have a couple of pairs made from old cotton knit sheets. I just made them using a homemade trouser pattern with the legs cut to just above the knee, hemmed and elasticated. I wear them in winter as they are much warmer than normal knickers. I know a couple of plus size women who made their own to wear in summer out of lightweight cotton sheets [cheapest way to buy large pieces of cotton] as they stop their thighs rubbing in the heat, much cooler and more comfortable than shapewear in the heat [which is what many channels suggest you try apparently].
Just seeing this video now and commiserating with you over sewing with the charmeuse! I haven't made anything with charmeuse (I have pretty much sworn off it, like you), but I have repaired and altered things for theater costuming. I never had the opportunity to try it, but I wonder if spray-starching the charmeuse before cutting out and sewing, would make it lie better and not be so creepy-crawly when you sew it? Then you could wash out the starch later. Have you ever tried this?
I haven't tried starching it yet, but I would worry about water spots or stains the starch may leave. But I guess it's underwear so I doesn't really matter.
If the girdle has suspenders for your stockings, then it’s worn underneath the tap pants (yes, yucky!). If it’s just for shapewear (usually pull-on girdles) then you just pull it down at the same time as the underwear.
Thank you! Mine is a regular girdle with suspenders so I guess I'll have to suck it up and do tap pants over top. At that point, I'm not sure I see the point of wearing the tap pants with a girdle, though. They seem a moot point.
This was my question! How do you use the facilities when you have a girdle on?? I would love an answer too. LOL
The consensus from everyone is girdle first then tap pants overtop. It's messing with my 19th century sensibilities to have a corset-like garment right next to the skin, but everyone is saying the same thing so I just have to get used to it.
You absolutely have to wear pants over girdle. I personally think girdle over pants was more for being recreational rather than for living in
Thank you! I may just only wear the tap pants when I don't wear a girdle. It seems pointless to me to have them on over. I appreciate the help!
I think much of it was for advertising purposes, even now when you see suspender belts being advertised you see them worn over knickers but anyone who has worn them as a daily item of clothing - rather than in the bedroom at night or out to a nightclub - will tell you you wear them UNDER the knickers and not over. Not unless you want to undo the suspenders every time you visit the ladies at any rate.
I have wondered myself about the girdle/underwear. Under the girdle and you have trouble using the bathroom and the hose bunches at the thigh. Over the girdle and it seems odd.
I agree. It also grosses me out to have a girdle that probably isn't washed as often as other underwear right next to the body without a washable barrier. But what do I know? This isn't my time period. At least my 1920s chemise/slip has snaps that I can unsnap to use the restroom.
@KatelynKearns the long line girdles and corsets just seem impractical for bodily functions. I do know that furniture was made differently to accommodate women and their clothes throughout time. Our big , comfy soft couches would be impossible to get in and out of in corsets
Tap pants that don't floss:
ruclips.net/video/6iyQGDzDrBM/видео.htmlsi=NXyUw3eshMFvqvKH&t=920
Thank you!