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Комментарии • 912

  • @ninodean18
    @ninodean18 2 года назад +91

    "If you don't understand Racism/White supremacy, what it is and how it works , everything else you think you understand will only confuse you." --Neely Fuller, Jr.

    • @BlackMusicGenre
      @BlackMusicGenre 2 года назад +8

      "What does supreme mean? It means I tell you what to do and you better do it" .
      "There is no such thing as Black Supremacy. Two Supremes can't occupy the same space".
      "The most powerful religion on this planet is the religion of White Supremacy. What is religion? A strong belief backed by action" . - Neely Fuller Jr.

    • @1dawg243
      @1dawg243 2 года назад +2

      💯💯💯

    • @iaintmadatcha
      @iaintmadatcha 2 года назад +2

      WORD

    • @Harold10ful
      @Harold10ful 2 года назад +2

      Talk to em !

    • @WeKnowTheDifference
      @WeKnowTheDifference 2 года назад +3

      A true Chicago unheralded legend who laid it out and few people have heard of him. His book may be the one of the most poignant books on white supremacy

  • @Jayarrin1
    @Jayarrin1 2 года назад +28

    That brother is delusional... history is more important than the future, and if it is not more important, then it is just as important. It is the footsteps of history that guide us in the present into the future. Today was built on yesterday just like tomorrow will be built on today. If you park your car and go into a grocery store it will be history that tells you where your car is at. History tells you where you live, who your family is, etc. Without history you would not even know who you are. That brother is delusional, and I don't know if you all caught why, but I did.

  • @BE-bk1tb
    @BE-bk1tb 2 года назад +27

    It’s not that absolute. I don’t see how a Black man could not live life without making a blanket judgment off of history. That being said when you meet people on a personal level you don’t have to harbor hatred, you can judge them individually, but that historical perspective will always keep you aware.

    • @jman1562001
      @jman1562001 2 года назад +2

      Yes, and we have to understand and accept the diversity of black thought that exist. We no longer need or have spokespeople that need to speak for us like in the Civil Rights Era. I do agree more black media platforms need to arise to showcase that diversity but is not Revolt TV a black media platform, is not TV One a black media platform, even Oprah has a platform to express different views and representations. They exist but are not all in one unison.

    • @authentic76
      @authentic76 2 года назад +1

      It’s called discernment.

    • @BlueEyedDeVL
      @BlueEyedDeVL 2 года назад

      Pretty sure you just explained your racist

  • @kevada1
    @kevada1 2 года назад +11

    "We didn't start the fire, it was always burning since the world's been turning."

  • @fredthetruth3701
    @fredthetruth3701 2 года назад +13

    I have a bi racial daughter and she has to know she is black, my guy is a little mixed up..

    • @LembeckIsStaying
      @LembeckIsStaying 2 года назад +6

      He's a child of island parents. They're usually like that now.

  • @paulallen9031
    @paulallen9031 2 года назад +29

    Math.... I appreciate the accountability you push for...

  • @Thecornerdojotv
    @Thecornerdojotv 2 года назад +47

    What he’s not getting and nobody explained well is it’s not about hating it’s about being prepared for what might come and not being blindsided by those who would harm you just because you’re alive

  • @reidbtable
    @reidbtable 2 года назад +28

    I get what the Brotha was saying, however you need to recognize your open enemy...in all forms. And not caring about history is a foolish statement. You don't live in the past, you study and become aware, because aint nothing new under the Sun. History gives you perspective and precedent. Great convo!

    • @Dell7788
      @Dell7788 2 года назад

      Why do us blacks go to clubs and stand on the corner when you will more likely to be killed by someone that looks like you than not. Blacks love to be a victim by any means necessary

    • @christinebryant8354
      @christinebryant8354 2 года назад

      Well said 👍

    • @cotypoullard6852
      @cotypoullard6852 Год назад

      A very IGNORANT Statement regarding HISTORY ESPECIALLY FOR A BLACK MAN!!!!!

    • @704Nike
      @704Nike Год назад

      The problem with black ppl as a whole is that they understand how detrimental knowing your history is. Because your history will tell you historically who your true enemy is, and historically the red man (Edomites) are our enemy. Not just because of the history but because the Bible tells you that the most high created them to be our enemy and how they deal with us in secret as well as to our faces.

  • @MrCbwTV
    @MrCbwTV 2 года назад +21

    When dude said my daughter is mixed I was not surprised.

    • @Lynnleemattos
      @Lynnleemattos 2 года назад +2

      Word!😂🙄

    • @makeoverme
      @makeoverme 2 года назад +2

      said the same thing..

    • @godflint
      @godflint 2 года назад +4

      White yssup is like kryptonite to some black men. One taste of it changes their entire perspective and how they view race in America. One day the black fist could be in the air, but after Amy puts it on his mustache that black fist dissappears.

    • @LembeckIsStaying
      @LembeckIsStaying 2 года назад +6

      When he said he was 2nd gen Jamaican I knew....then the daughter was the icing on the cake.
      My girl is 2nd gen Haitian and her family is full of that goofy thinking. Even my girl, who is the most legit out of them, I had to straighten out a few times.

    • @bigbillybadass
      @bigbillybadass 2 года назад +1

      Lol

  • @KN-wb6un
    @KN-wb6un 2 года назад +62

    It depends on the context. Bryon Allen is a black billionaire but had to sue Comcast for racial discrimination so just because you have the money doesn’t mean they have to sell or do business with you. In other cases non-black folks know they can typically get away with treating us like crap because we’re a poor group overall and money is power and power can be used for repercussions so they don’t fear any from us when they act wickedly in dealing with us.

    • @t.wynderogriffin798
      @t.wynderogriffin798 2 года назад +3

      and lets not forget, after Byron gained blacked folks support he has been ghost.....ijs just like he was before his situation

    • @KN-wb6un
      @KN-wb6un 2 года назад +4

      @@t.wynderogriffin798 The CBC and NAACP doesn’t seem to give a crap about black folks as well but they’ll show up for other groups. Hence why the ADOS Advocacy Foundation is about the only political organization I support.

    • @catchwreck928
      @catchwreck928 2 года назад +1

      @@KN-wb6un Facts and u just seen in this video how these non fba/ados black immigrants behave

    • @HypnoticHollywood
      @HypnoticHollywood 2 года назад +3

      @@catchwreck928 The Jamaican dude said he doesn't raise his kids to feel inferior or hate strangers because of their skin color and you think that's a bad thing?

    • @HypnoticHollywood
      @HypnoticHollywood 2 года назад

      Non black folks cannot get away with treating blacks like crap...just recently George Floyd's killer and plenty of other whites that wrongly murdered black people have been sentenced to hard time in prison.

  • @wterrence33
    @wterrence33 2 года назад +21

    Its hard to have the conversation when you lay with the enemy.

  • @Trew-I-Am
    @Trew-I-Am 2 года назад +136

    You can't ignore the history of racism, no matter how much you may want to. Ignoring it only keeps people ignorant. You don't have to condition a youth to hate anyone but they need to be aware and be able to recognize things

    • @jamint.jaddua1771
      @jamint.jaddua1771 2 года назад +1

      Big time

    • @user-dw3qf5vg9p
      @user-dw3qf5vg9p 2 года назад +5

      History is to learn but not too live in todays age and blame white people for something they never did oor thought of in their life...thats poor behaviour. It happens 200 years ago..not today.

    • @antisocialmedia_0
      @antisocialmedia_0 2 года назад +1

      Expose them!❗❗❗❗
      ruclips.net/video/kUbfp7QkkSY/видео.html

    • @chrisdragnet722
      @chrisdragnet722 2 года назад +5

      @@user-dw3qf5vg9p there are residual effects from history. A new year doesn’t magically wipe away what’s happened to folks 80, 60, 40, 30, 20 years ago. The linger ideas have not disappeared.

    • @BKbomber92
      @BKbomber92 2 года назад +2

      @@user-dw3qf5vg9p u sound silly..3 white men just got sentenced for a crime on a random black boy...racism will never go away in this country people can only learn to manuever thru it best way they can

  • @TheMikePopeShow
    @TheMikePopeShow 2 года назад +99

    The forgetting history mentality is the quickest way to get your world shattered! I’ve taught all my children about what’s really out here. Some experienced racism on their own(sons) and my daughter has as well. My baby 4yo speaks to everyone and I have to tell him that those “YTE” people/family are either rude or don’t like you because they didn’t speak back! A 4yo!!! Like WTF could they be scared of? Maybe they just hate us.

    • @user-dw3qf5vg9p
      @user-dw3qf5vg9p 2 года назад +8

      You have taught your kids to develop hate from young rather then discipline to maintain and work through it. He will be a problem maker before even becoming a problem solver. Sad

    • @champpit1
      @champpit1 2 года назад +10

      @@user-dw3qf5vg9pWTH YOU TALKI G ABOUT? MORE LIKE PREPARING THEM FOR REALITY!!!!

    • @user-dw3qf5vg9p
      @user-dw3qf5vg9p 2 года назад +1

      @@champpit1 and the reality is white people are just racist? Ur name is truth seeker...no way u actuslly believe dis?

    • @user-dw3qf5vg9p
      @user-dw3qf5vg9p 2 года назад

      @@champpit1 the reality is not white people are racist....or else...if it is...then black people have to live by stereotype too. u cant choose how things work. imagine saying "preparing them for reality" but u have choices in ur life.....u do know black men did not have that before? because of racist white men? truth seeker? nope... u aint

    • @stacksondeck515
      @stacksondeck515 2 года назад +6

      Nah I gotta disagree with you bro. Imagine if you heard white person teaching there kid this? You would consider that racist.

  • @herbertdaniel7406
    @herbertdaniel7406 2 года назад +10

    This topic needs a part two ,Thank you black kings.

  • @skeletordevops
    @skeletordevops 2 года назад +51

    There is no “we” without strong families. As long as teen pregnancy, fatherlessness and single motherhood is the norm, the “we” will always be fragmented. If we’re going to be real about this “we” business in comparison with other cultures and groups, then don’t forget the most forgotten point: In successful cultures, the men marry their women. This is true across races. The majority of women on welfare of ALL races were teen moms. Broken families perpetuate poverty more than anything else.

    • @TheNameisBash
      @TheNameisBash 2 года назад

      Absolutely!!

    • @ace11235
      @ace11235 2 года назад

      🎯

    • @user-dw3qf5vg9p
      @user-dw3qf5vg9p 2 года назад

      Broken family means broken children alot of the time. I agree with you...these problems can improve families

    • @dimpzmusicworld
      @dimpzmusicworld 2 года назад +1

      True....we also have to look at single family homes and 12 year Olds are allowed to have the children they have the right to say they want the babies....sex trafficking teens is on an all time high.....our families been separated and divided....education system trash....we are conditioned to endure modern day slavery....it's not nothing we can do about it....freedom is not in our lifetime periodT....and at this rate I don't see it in the near future either....mom and dad raised 6children only 2 with college degrees the rest only 8th grade level of learning....by the time I was born education was forced....I got beat if I didn't learn because my mom knew how important it would be to my future....our teachers was able to hit us if we didn't get it right.....now I see why not saying abuse is it but look at these children now....uneducated, depressed, suicidal, dangerous hot heads.....all munipulated by money....."It's just paper"

    • @user-dw3qf5vg9p
      @user-dw3qf5vg9p 2 года назад

      @@dimpzmusicworld and they would also say "it is what it is" like that shit happens.

  • @The1shaboogie
    @The1shaboogie 2 года назад +15

    The brother with the glasses is talking some real shit! Ownership is everything!

  • @Yard687
    @Yard687 2 года назад +14

    “Truthfully I wanted to rhyme like Common Sense but I sold 5 Mill I haven’t rhyme like Common sense “ Jay Z Moment of Clarity nobodies is going to sacrifice there Bag for the culture.

    • @MrCbwTV
      @MrCbwTV 2 года назад +1

      🎯🎯🎯

    • @Footballer85749
      @Footballer85749 2 года назад +1

      Exactly, notice when he said that not ONE person in the room said "No, I will sacrifice my bag for the culture"

    • @thegenesis6896
      @thegenesis6896 2 года назад +1

      Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @GawdlyChannel
      @GawdlyChannel 2 года назад +1

      However these kids are getting bags and many dying shortly after or getting locked up. At the end of the day the bag mean nothing without freedom to choose life.

  • @bigahk86
    @bigahk86 2 года назад +14

    Anybody saying its about money is extremely lost 🤦🏾‍♂️😂😂 especially in this day and age

    • @alpojr21
      @alpojr21 2 года назад +7

      Exactly!! Goofy as hell

    • @johnalba4406
      @johnalba4406 2 года назад

      This is the only age u can talk it when there more millionaires in the black community then ever u sound lost

    • @bigahk86
      @bigahk86 2 года назад

      @@johnalba4406 ??

  • @ashaolujimi3751
    @ashaolujimi3751 2 года назад +7

    I understand him now he has mix children and that is his fault not ours....

    • @clipstheonly2513
      @clipstheonly2513 2 года назад +2

      Lol when he said that, I understood why his mindset is like that cause how could a man from the bronx be so stupid

    • @ashaolujimi3751
      @ashaolujimi3751 2 года назад +1

      @@clipstheonly2513 I thought the same thing cause the people in the Wakefield section don’t think like that...

    • @clipstheonly2513
      @clipstheonly2513 2 года назад

      @@ashaolujimi3751 yup, are you Nigerian btw

    • @ashaolujimi3751
      @ashaolujimi3751 2 года назад

      @@clipstheonly2513 I am a Moor...

    • @clipstheonly2513
      @clipstheonly2513 2 года назад

      @@ashaolujimi3751 okay I'm Nigerian

  • @Eyes0fJah
    @Eyes0fJah 2 года назад +28

    When Rsonist said his daughter was mixed, his perspective made a lot of sense. Although we would all like a racist free world, reality is that it will always be here because we all inately want our races to survive, which is a narural survival instinct. Its only when were conditioned to think that we are lesser than another race that we aspire to be different. Its not about getting rid of differences, its just about educating people on them.

    • @catchwreck928
      @catchwreck928 2 года назад +3

      hes Jamaican enough said.

    • @iaintmadatcha
      @iaintmadatcha 2 года назад

      WORD

    • @Eyes0fJah
      @Eyes0fJah 2 года назад +2

      @@catchwreck928 Im Jamaican, i dont see your point

    • @art_apexart_apex3440
      @art_apexart_apex3440 2 года назад +1

      Racism and the survival of a race is not synonymous. In a racist's mind it probably is... However, there are people who want equity without malice.

  • @harvardblue972
    @harvardblue972 2 года назад +18

    My Jamaican Brother is a bit uneducated about race. He has love in his heart and wants the best but that ain’t enough in Babylon yo!

  • @Intellectually_Ignorant_brand
    @Intellectually_Ignorant_brand 2 года назад +29

    Money makes the World Go Round and the color of ones skin plays a part even if one has Money

    • @arieszodiakboxing6669
      @arieszodiakboxing6669 2 года назад +4

      Big facts...✌🏽

    • @jacobtynes8806
      @jacobtynes8806 2 года назад

      @@arieszodiakboxing6669 to zz zzz zzz

    • @MailmanRicky
      @MailmanRicky 2 года назад +2

      Facts, at least off first glance. A rich black man will be judged on sight but once they find out he has money then shit changes smh

    • @EnduroDreaming
      @EnduroDreaming 2 года назад

      The thing is if we were organized and had a large network of successful black people working together the other groups would have no other choice then to show respect. So, yeah if one rich black dude has to work with a bunch of rich white people they’re definitely going to look at him differently but if they’re working with a bunch of rich black people they’ll keep their mouth shut and just do business.

  • @mgd9151
    @mgd9151 2 года назад +23

    He says he can't live his life based on history then brings up instances from his past. He also says he was being arrested and at the same time calling the officer "bro". Let all that sink in

    • @projectrain2254
      @projectrain2254 2 года назад +2

      That's called AAVE, and there's NOTHING wrong with that, RODRIGUEZ.🧐

    • @mgd9151
      @mgd9151 2 года назад +4

      @@projectrain2254 Now, make that make sense

    • @shaieresmirnoff
      @shaieresmirnoff 2 года назад +1

      Sounds like someone that can flip any topic and form a debate or a argument by manipulating

    • @reedirokaj
      @reedirokaj 2 года назад

      @@projectrain2254 no it’s not lol that is not what AAVE is.

    • @projectrain2254
      @projectrain2254 2 года назад

      @@reedirokaj "Bro/Bruh/Brother" actually IS part of AAVE. What did I say wrong..?🤔

  • @CorGP
    @CorGP 2 года назад +2

    The guy with the red hat is blinded by wanting to be accepted. These are the black people who make it hard for us to come together and build a community again.

  • @KingJah-qv3jt
    @KingJah-qv3jt 2 года назад +13

    It’s definitely all about your Money💯💯

    • @chenitabest4969
      @chenitabest4969 2 года назад +2

      With some groups It's about the money with you after they've given their people first dibbs and they didn't want it. You're getting the leftovers. Unlike how we do business.

    • @Harold10ful
      @Harold10ful 2 года назад

      Not it's about survivalism, money is nothing but a tool to ensure that for their group. If they can extract money and resources from you doesn't mean they won't do business with you, they will. But they do not care about you or the group you belong to. Black people need to stop believing in the fairytale of globalism. If racism is still happening in the present it is not "history".

  • @gettz196
    @gettz196 2 года назад +2

    This world is about money and the goal is to keep black people as the permanent underclass . There’s more black millionaires and billionaires every in the world now but we collective haven’t moved an inch in the wealth gap since the end of slavery . Stop tribalism , stop religiously divides , stop gender divides , stop sexuality divides and come together under the banner as Black first . We are black first period . This simple step we put us in the right direction.

    • @jman1562001
      @jman1562001 2 года назад

      Do you believe a West Indian, a mixed race person, or African Immigrant considers themselves Black as if Black is this monolthic banner we all come up under. Correct me if i'm wrong but does there not exist a black middle class that is not rich nor poor but are making ends meet and becoming successful.

    • @gettz196
      @gettz196 2 года назад +1

      @@jman1562001 the problem is we don’t consider ourselves black first . It’s always repping where you from first or A gender first or lgbt first or a religion first . If we come together black first period and no matter where u are from , u who find attractive, your religion , etc .. we all can move in one accord on the same page . So we can collectively fight together to finally stop being in last place as black people .

  • @rumitchell
    @rumitchell 2 года назад +14

    THANK YOU!!! @13:28 !! It pisses me off to no end when people say that we’re exacerbating the racial divide when we decide to practice group economics and to treat others how they have been, continue to, and will more that likely continue to treat us!!

    • @user-dw3qf5vg9p
      @user-dw3qf5vg9p 2 года назад

      How have i treates you? You make it so much about race..that you elinimate everyone who is not black...experience and their own history that made them specifically. So ignore them as individuals... like white people did 200 years ago with black people and treat them collectively according to race? So you want to treat white people the same way they treated black people...200 years ago and more? Yeah mate....make it make sense. Have i been racist to you? Have i affected ur life in any way? I dont even know you...but because my skin white...im somewhat an oppressor
      How do you expect that will progress? You are literally flippin the script rather then breaking that script. Silly thinking

    • @Poetryforstoners
      @Poetryforstoners 2 года назад

      It be yall own ppl tho

    • @user-dw3qf5vg9p
      @user-dw3qf5vg9p 2 года назад

      @@bighomey1090 am i a racist simply because im white skin? does white not have culture? polish? british? europeans from all places? no? the history doesnt show alll race..all nationality have got blood on their hands in the past? but we ignore them? only remember the white history? yeah right..

    • @alfordelliott6943
      @alfordelliott6943 2 года назад +1

      But saying all races have done bad seems like a cop out or a deflection. We are talking about here in America. You don't see Germans saying " yeah the holocaust happened but your not the only group that went through something". The Germans made it right and American are paying for it.

    • @user-dw3qf5vg9p
      @user-dw3qf5vg9p 2 года назад

      @@alfordelliott6943 to me it seems like america is paying for it with division. thats why i disagree with the response/reaction.
      i rather find a way for union without race/politics to be involved...personally from my perspective all i see is just greed everywhere.. everyone pointing fingers.. nobody want to live..if that make sense.

  • @STRANGERPROTV
    @STRANGERPROTV 2 года назад +3

    Who’s the dude in red hat … such a positive really about equality dude

  • @GyvonJante
    @GyvonJante 2 года назад +4

    We have a different way of offering peace WHILE being on guard and prepared. There’s a way for both.

  • @KinGJuStiCe712
    @KinGJuStiCe712 2 года назад +3

    America isn’t red white & blue or black it’s green & everything can be sold

  • @Trew-I-Am
    @Trew-I-Am 2 года назад +18

    Money may play a factor in how some might treat you but for many it won't matter because they hate that you exist and have it.

    • @Tyfromthechi647
      @Tyfromthechi647 2 года назад +1

      Facts

    • @rgw1380rw
      @rgw1380rw 2 года назад +1

      My uncle is a highly educated, plus wealthy so called Black businessman. Although he's doing big boy things, he's faced biased opinions while out doing field assignments for an agency that's under his name. When he's in specific neighborhoods that aren't out of his price range, he's had to deal with being confronted and questioned about his presence in a so called free country. He's not a very flashy guy, but does keep nice things. One thing I learned from watching some of his clients that come for his financial or insurance services is that people with money don't always look like what their bank accounts/assets prove them to be.

    • @reedirokaj
      @reedirokaj 2 года назад +2

      @@rgw1380rw thank you bro bc when he said that someone else was gonna respect him or treat him equal basically bc of his financial well-being, he was wrong.

    • @rgw1380rw
      @rgw1380rw 2 года назад

      @@reedirokaj There's no specific dress code for well off or wealthy people. Even when you are clearly well off, you may have a neighbor that has some sort of issue with you. Being a so called Black man in America isn't easy.

    • @EnduroDreaming
      @EnduroDreaming 2 года назад

      But if there were more successful black people and not just the token black guy of the group they wouldn’t feel comfortable being racist at that point. We need to worry about elevating and that will destroy a lot of racism as a by product.

  • @h3was547
    @h3was547 2 года назад +4

    They do not allow money to override prejudism and subjugation.
    They will reject our offer as if it wasn't made before anyone outside the Black Race.

  • @fashgodzkidd
    @fashgodzkidd 2 года назад +2

    '"judge them accordingly!!" #BEST #QUOTE

  • @Thelasthoward
    @Thelasthoward 2 года назад +4

    I was like why is this brother saying this type shit??? Then he says My daughter is mixed… Ohhhh it all makes sense now.

  • @JDunk-tg5vr
    @JDunk-tg5vr 2 года назад +7

    That was a BAR Arsonist spit. "I'm speaking PERSONALLY, If I based my feelings historically I would HATE EVERYBODY"

  • @wisemenproduction4772
    @wisemenproduction4772 2 года назад +5

    This conversation was really good!!! Salute brothers

  • @spexgck2478
    @spexgck2478 2 года назад +16

    Very important emotional conversation . #hoffagang

  • @TheMikePopeShow
    @TheMikePopeShow 2 года назад +9

    Nah it’s actually about black and white first then it’s financially

    • @Iamhimbutyouarenot
      @Iamhimbutyouarenot 2 года назад

      You must not have been around real money making individuals then.

    • @TheMikePopeShow
      @TheMikePopeShow 2 года назад

      @@Iamhimbutyouarenot I actually have and it was still the same vibe just more expensive items and classier people!

    • @antisocialmedia_0
      @antisocialmedia_0 2 года назад

      Expose them!❗❗❗❗
      ruclips.net/video/kUbfp7QkkSY/видео.html

  • @NEONOIRERA
    @NEONOIRERA 2 года назад +5

    Big respect to Arsonist a lot bro judge people off their character and interactions instead of generalizing.

    • @GawdlyChannel
      @GawdlyChannel 2 года назад

      Unfortunately ….many of us are not judge this way. But go off. It’s not Black ppls job nor can we change minds or ways. Others have to do that for themselves.
      It’s funny to me he thinks he slept with a white woman or whatever now that represents how they all feel for him. That’s dangerous . Smh. Cuz G Floyd’s fiancé being white didn’t save his life.

  • @Iamalakerfan
    @Iamalakerfan 2 года назад +9

    Math get Shyne on the platform !!!

  • @terryali8984
    @terryali8984 2 года назад +4

    This was a dope conversation!!!! Love this.

  • @calfrye5343
    @calfrye5343 2 года назад +11

    This brother is lost. He doesn’t understand the difference between racism as a construct and dealing with people as individuals.

    • @nvm7191
      @nvm7191 2 года назад +7

      Sounds like he doesn’t want to offense his biracial kids mother

    • @chrisdragnet722
      @chrisdragnet722 2 года назад +2

      @@nvm7191 He thinks money places him/us outside of the bullshit,.

    • @djblakk3535
      @djblakk3535 Год назад

      Most people on here are

  • @THEVIDEOARBITRATOR
    @THEVIDEOARBITRATOR 2 года назад +3

    This podcast is excellent man. Probably my favorite. I also like how the people in this discussion are allowing each other to talk and it made for a good discussion.

  • @NEONOIRERA
    @NEONOIRERA 2 года назад +2

    Arsonist is right it’s about money we gotta understand that. Donald Sterling had a bias against Magic but it was a personal gripe between them over a girl.

    • @Polostar79
      @Polostar79 2 года назад

      You could replace Magic with any black man and it would’ve been the same.

  • @jonapp1497
    @jonapp1497 2 года назад +4

    It's about the group. When there is no unity there is no power. Dey have us believing money is the power when it's actually the group. With UNITY comes resources and the power. #TRUESTORY

  • @U.u_w0lvesbayn3_U.u
    @U.u_w0lvesbayn3_U.u 2 года назад +2

    "History doesn't have to define you, but helping others is what we all should strive to." 💔💔

  • @New_genre_entertainment
    @New_genre_entertainment 2 года назад +2

    This is a fantastic conversation. Salute to Mr Math Hoffa for putting out this sensitive buy needed conversation. Thank you.

  • @RobbinStClair
    @RobbinStClair 2 года назад +3

    He's right and he's wrong. You shouldn't judge anyone based on what they look like. But America does and when you have kids you should prepare them for that.

  • @art_apexart_apex3440
    @art_apexart_apex3440 2 года назад +2

    Very good discussion.
    I see everything in a simple light: Correct things that are wrong. Equity for all.

  • @ja-maindawordsmithz6260
    @ja-maindawordsmithz6260 2 года назад +5

    This NY drill running the sound. My only issue is, the repetitive sound and vocabulary

  • @theunknowncelebrity3418
    @theunknowncelebrity3418 2 года назад +2

    Red Hat speaking FACTS...

  • @Classikh
    @Classikh 2 года назад +3

    Two things can be true. Systemic oppression effects people based on race and socio-economic status.

    • @user-dw3qf5vg9p
      @user-dw3qf5vg9p 2 года назад

      What is systemic oppression? I dont want definition..i want proof.

    • @imayeseekay
      @imayeseekay 2 года назад

      @@user-dw3qf5vg9p Goofball.

  • @champpit1
    @champpit1 2 года назад +1

    Did he say we can't say we? That was our ancestors? Smh DELUSIONAL!

  • @djslimm74
    @djslimm74 2 года назад +9

    I wish Smart was on this episode to shut this "Its not about race" sh*t up

    • @LembeckIsStaying
      @LembeckIsStaying 2 года назад +2

      He's of island immigrant descent with a white wife.....you knew that would be his point of view.

  • @dfree1442
    @dfree1442 Год назад +2

    Intelligent ignorance. Money has a limit. Emotions don't.

  • @stylezdamc9645
    @stylezdamc9645 2 года назад +3

    It’s all about the MONEY for SURE

  • @jamescommander406
    @jamescommander406 2 года назад +1

    ok . . . Don't hate everybody ---->and damn sure LOVE YOURSELF above the hate of ANYBODY💯

  • @bigfootsdickgoesfirst8423
    @bigfootsdickgoesfirst8423 2 года назад +29

    The brother in the red hat doesn't want to acknowledge what is going on. He is a soft target.

    • @alpojr21
      @alpojr21 2 года назад +8

      He’s a goofy!

    • @chenitabest4969
      @chenitabest4969 2 года назад +9

      As Jason Black would say his fight is for "interracial sexual access". Gotta keep that avenue open .🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @LembeckIsStaying
      @LembeckIsStaying 2 года назад +1

      @@chenitabest4969
      Yep.

    • @Polostar79
      @Polostar79 2 года назад

      The thing is he’s not entirely wrong in his outlook. None of them are. He’s just looking at the issues from a different vantage point. That just shows that black people aren’t monolithic and singular minded.

    • @bigbillybadass
      @bigbillybadass 2 года назад +1

      100% he would fold like nick cannon

  • @InnerlockMedia
    @InnerlockMedia 2 года назад +33

    If you find yourself sympathizing with your ancestors oppressors for any reason against any percentage of your ppl you are wrong and
    off-code period. If you feel like you are anti-hate cool be that but accept that your perspective is invalid when it comes to the way our community chooses to handled or deal with those who have practiced hate against us. It’s important for ppl to play their role and for us as a community to move in unison.

    • @jharonc2582
      @jharonc2582 2 года назад +5

      Yeah cause yall move soooo collectively lol 😂 that was a good laugh, thanks

    • @redskywalker3374
      @redskywalker3374 Год назад

      Africa sold the slaves to the ships , one of the very first slave owners in the south was black , he had white slaves to & the origin of the word slave comes from Slavic people , they're white & I don't think they were the 1st to teach any dark skin people how to crack a whip or steal or sell humans . What is your or mine history ? ..How can we blame the whites when they were enslaved to & many were held captive by people of color in history and other countries had 'slaves' as well ...We have a present ..take responsibility for your actions & what others do may be a result of how you behave ...We need more role models perhaps ..more conversations & seeing this show is a blessing ..there was a time when black wasn't all over the tv screen ... there was a time that white didn't seem to want that but now they pay blacks to do their thing & then there are cut throats & people who take advantage of others ...black & white ... now do me a favor ...be safe & get that loot ..I gotcha reading this here like I'm playing the flute

  • @kalenamichele3114
    @kalenamichele3114 2 года назад +1

    His daughter is biracial, but the larger society is going to see her as black. Period. Tell her that.

  • @thecunninlynguist
    @thecunninlynguist 2 года назад +10

    Money power respect is the key to life. LOX, X and Kim told us years ago. And the only color respected is Green

  • @champpit1
    @champpit1 2 года назад +1

    THIS DUDE SAID FORGET HISTORICALLY!!! SMH NO KNOWLEDGE OF SELF!

  • @thetopgunn23
    @thetopgunn23 2 года назад +3

    It’s not about money it’s about control , you control the mind you control the people !!! We’ve been had the finances we’re just not putting it in the right spaces collectively and homie in the red hat knows that .

  • @digitallhm8160
    @digitallhm8160 2 года назад +1

    Dude in the red hat is setting his kids up for failure. He's confusing dealing with reality with somehow hating somebody. It's like he's a Hip Hop Terry Crews.

  • @aagreenidge
    @aagreenidge 2 года назад +2

    Here's the issue. You can't say that you have a problem with people calling you a n#_$&# but IN the same sentence use the word to call us as a positive. There's some cognitive dissonance happening there.

    • @aagreenidge
      @aagreenidge 2 года назад

      History repeats when it's not learnt . You cannot grow if you don't learn what happened before. That irresponsible at best. Lazy at the worst. That why the Jewish community always talks about the past. That's why the Chinese community speaks about the past to their youth. That's why they grow together instead of being fractured like us.

  • @s.o4113
    @s.o4113 2 года назад +1

    Bread in the red hat is speaking on point

  • @imuapioneer
    @imuapioneer 2 года назад +2

    I can see both points. You need both points to be happy in this life.

  • @h.Freeman
    @h.Freeman 2 года назад +1

    Ownership is an illusion

  • @user-dw3qf5vg9p
    @user-dw3qf5vg9p 2 года назад +4

    "if i keep judging everything off of history, id never live my life" TALK!!!!!!!! its facts!!!!

    • @oumargalsen9933
      @oumargalsen9933 2 года назад +2

      But you need to be aware of what happens before you ! That what affects today society sometimes

    • @user-dw3qf5vg9p
      @user-dw3qf5vg9p 2 года назад +5

      @@oumargalsen9933 "those who dont know their history are condemned to repeat it"

    • @johnalba4406
      @johnalba4406 2 года назад

      @@user-dw3qf5vg9p and those who focus on it to long get stuck in it

  • @cbell061
    @cbell061 2 года назад +2

    Our fore-fathers and leaders during the civil rights movement are turning in the grave seeing all of the work they did go down the drain… look at how we treat each other

  • @Princeskii24
    @Princeskii24 2 года назад +3

    Bro he making us look real bad on this one.. Son said fuck history..smh, son wilding!!! That’s the shit my 6th graders say but they too young to understand. Son wilding, don’t even know where to start

    • @clipstheonly2513
      @clipstheonly2513 2 года назад

      Bro Arsonist is hella stupid lol. This is what happens to most people that start getting money

    • @Princeskii24
      @Princeskii24 2 года назад

      🤦🏾‍♂️ smh 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @maurencegibson
    @maurencegibson 2 года назад +2

    Rsonist NEEDS to read The Isis Papers by Dr Francis Cress Welsing. .....PERIOD.

  • @mr.blackculture8111
    @mr.blackculture8111 2 года назад +5

    There is still some questions. He would need to answer in my book and to help get a full understanding. ummmm. Prejudgement is natural and we all do it. Race and Class are intertwined for black people. So, you need to be race conscious and class conscious. Police/law enforcement are tools of this capitalistic structure to enforce policies(city/state/federal and protect property of those in power. That being police officers white, black, asian, latino or other. Racist Power structure use None white faces as mangers of their system male and female. Racism is a group effort. We as black people should be about gaining power. Wealth Building without Working for Political Policies in our favor means powerless.

  • @monaabron6904
    @monaabron6904 2 года назад +1

    Wow 😳 I can't believe he said f__k history. That's deep. Dame!

  • @pranavgakhar2217
    @pranavgakhar2217 2 года назад +5

    "America aint about black or white, it's about bread"

    • @ggnb9529
      @ggnb9529 2 года назад +2

      Yeah thats true and I’ve told ppl that USA isnt a country but a corporation

    • @KN-wb6un
      @KN-wb6un 2 года назад

      Last time I checked America was built on blacks producing the “bread” for whites and it hasn’t stopped since

    • @antisocialmedia_0
      @antisocialmedia_0 2 года назад

      Expose them!❗❗❗❗
      ruclips.net/video/kUbfp7QkkSY/видео.html

  • @user-sp1dg3ec3w
    @user-sp1dg3ec3w 2 года назад +1

    Just a message to say I respect all of you. Thanks M

  • @scottboys4js
    @scottboys4js 2 года назад +5

    I agree with bro he refuse to think like the majority.

    • @scottboys4js
      @scottboys4js 2 года назад

      @velCROhash I like to catch sporting the shit I brought

  • @upstairsweb-series9848
    @upstairsweb-series9848 2 года назад +1

    It’s not about bread, it’s about the heart. No amount of money will change a persons heart. That Magic point was great.

    • @Footballer85749
      @Footballer85749 2 года назад

      They diverted from that Magic point. They kept focusing on $$ Magic had versus, ownership of an NBA team which he DOESN'T have. Racist Clippers owner looked at Magic as less than because he doesn't have the NBA franchise. If Magic, had his own team, that girl wouldn't be bringing him to the games, she would be sitting courtside at his. Ownership is key like the first guy said. If anyone in that room had their OWN platform the conversation would be different.

    • @upstairsweb-series9848
      @upstairsweb-series9848 2 года назад

      @@Footballer85749 I understand what you’re saying but respectfully disagree. We keep using different qualifiers for hate which results in a moving of the goal post to try and rationalize an irrational hate. That point is turned upside by the same person making it when he talks about a homeless guy refusing to take his money even though he had more wealth than him. Another example, he had no problem with her kicking it with white men who don’t own sports teams (which Magic actually does with the Dodgers), the issue is his Blackness. And even if he was cool with her kicking it with Magic at a Dodgers game because he owned the team, he still wouldn’t care for him as a man or a human because he was Black. He would respect his pockets and still call him a nigger at home. If the argument is about getting treated better by White people because you have money that’s one thing, but a conversation about how someone actually thinks of you is another. This moving of the goal posts is us thinking more like them. I’m sure most Black folks had someone tell you growing up that the true measure of a man is how you treat the janitor, not the CEO. Or how you treat someone who can do nothing for you. Or some form of that metaphor. Don’t let this generation of bag and money talk confuse you. If someone only respects you because of what you have, they don’t respect you.

    • @Footballer85749
      @Footballer85749 2 года назад

      @@upstairsweb-series9848 I'm not confused. There are levels to hate and disrespect and its nuanced. My point was everyone there was declining from talking about one facet of that which is ownership, one guy brought it up and the discussion pivoted. You are correct, the Clippers owner probably doesnt respect Magic period. But, the reason the hate came in that form is not due to Magic's financials. It is due to his lack of ownership. That guy feels as though he is above people who dont own teams or companies. My argument was simply if Magic owned a team, that woman wouldnt even be bringing him to Clippers games. She would be attending the games of Magic's franchise. Not that it changes much about one's opinion. Someone may not like you but if you have options or free will they have to understand it and respect if to a degree if it is exercised. You cant change anything you dont own.

  • @lordknowd37
    @lordknowd37 2 года назад +1

    You can always tell when a brother is sleeping or considering sleeping with the group that consider us their enemy

  • @BE-bk1tb
    @BE-bk1tb 2 года назад +5

    It’s funny dude in the red hat feels that way. My parents told me the EXACT same things and it helped me navigate myself to a successful position in life.

    • @LembeckIsStaying
      @LembeckIsStaying 2 года назад +1

      Me too. I didn't see it as controversial. But apparently he took it some other way.
      I guess he felt acknowledging the past would interfere with his pursuit of white women I guess. 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @southernplantationR
    @southernplantationR 2 года назад +1

    Yall need to have this conversation in private.

  • @Noncon4mist212
    @Noncon4mist212 2 года назад +2

    People gotta learn to love.....live and let die

    • @Noncon4mist212
      @Noncon4mist212 2 года назад

      @velCROhash damn man.... that was horrible kid. Im just gonna be honest.

    • @Noncon4mist212
      @Noncon4mist212 2 года назад

      @velCROhash much love

    • @antisocialmedia_0
      @antisocialmedia_0 2 года назад

      Expose them!❗❗❗❗
      ruclips.net/video/kUbfp7QkkSY/видео.html

  • @MailmanRicky
    @MailmanRicky 2 года назад +2

    Holy shit this is facts. Cole, Kenny, Drake, Wiz, Sean, Mac all came up at once and changed the tone\subject matter of hip hop. Chief keef popped and the industry threw his ass to the forefront for the little kids to see and fall in love with. & now drill rap is one of the most popular sub genres of hip hop

  • @latinshine1
    @latinshine1 2 года назад +4

    Great conversation: Me personally (Puerto Rican) I was beat by racist white cops, but I didn't teach my Son to hate white people or cops. And just like dude said, I taught him only get angry at the people that wrong "him", but not the entire group or race. But the other side of the argument in interesting also. Being careful to not be the first to put your guards down. That maybe some prejudgment can save you from a situation, because we don't live in a koombaya world, I see that point of view also. Fire convo.....🔥🔥

    • @rgw1380rw
      @rgw1380rw 2 года назад +1

      Some of us surely have vanished from letting that guard down.

  • @sgtbrownty
    @sgtbrownty 2 года назад

    Ebonics used to be frowned upon until they started using it in commercials: " Applebees 🍎, Eatin' Good in the Neighborhood." It's always been about the money. It seems that we're not validated until they say so.

  • @roomclear
    @roomclear 2 года назад

    He's right. It's ultimately about class not race. Money talks and bullsh!t walks.

  • @GetPaper718
    @GetPaper718 2 года назад +5

    I’ve had this debate as well and my philosophy is lead with love. It sound corny but if everybody did that a lot of bs wouldn’t exist. Lead with love but be aware of ya history. Innocent till proven guilty

    • @LembeckIsStaying
      @LembeckIsStaying 2 года назад +2

      The problem with that approach is, we aren't the ones who made the game. So no one gives a f□k about your love because you're the one they fear in the first place.
      It's like rolling up on a swarm of bees saying "I'm here in peace". Those bees still gonna sting you up because they're the ones with the anger and the stingers lol.

    • @user-dw3qf5vg9p
      @user-dw3qf5vg9p 2 года назад

      @@LembeckIsStaying so you are implying...those group of bees are white people? So i guess you think its okay to become the bully of 200 years ago? Instead of fixing or improving relationships amongst everyone... u think white people are evil. I was born in 94...i never met you..never touched you...never put a rope on you. Id never do thst to any black person...but it dont matter cus im white? Sounds exactly like a white supremacist 200 years ago. U cant choose when things work and dont.

    • @StromLxrd6
      @StromLxrd6 2 года назад

      @@LembeckIsStaying right, they were leading with love during the civil rights movement getting spit in the face, dogs and fire hoses unleashed on them, rocks thrown at them, kidnapped and lynched. People of color not going for that ish anymore on the flip side though we too busy clipping each other instead banning together.

  • @AnthonyAllenJr
    @AnthonyAllenJr 2 года назад

    I remember this episode. Was a great conversation. There's a lot of people that need to hear this.

  • @StromLxrd6
    @StromLxrd6 2 года назад +1

    If its all about money than power automatically comes along with that. Money and Power, there's a blurred line between the two. And we know what ethnic group has always been in power here in America and strategic to never relinquish that power for a reason.

  • @xolilemgidi952
    @xolilemgidi952 2 года назад +1

    The guy in the red hat is on point 👌👌👌👌

  • @Frankiehardworkshow
    @Frankiehardworkshow 2 года назад +2

    Dude gotta understand that this is life... we gotta have some type of pre judgement to a certain degree

  • @vaughnubilla5480
    @vaughnubilla5480 2 года назад +1

    2 different personalities. One is positive; one is skeptical

  • @ricoh.2228
    @ricoh.2228 2 года назад +1

    Hoffa.....keep these coming big dawg....much love from Virginia homie💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

  • @jamesturner961
    @jamesturner961 2 года назад +1

    If I judge my life on how people was treated back in the day before I Eve and thought of before my mama was born before my grandma was born that I would not have a life because I'd always be mad at the world and that makes no sense to me

  • @southernplantationR
    @southernplantationR 2 года назад +1

    The brother with the mixed daughter is optimistic. Great way to be. But you also gotta be realistic.

  • @kimisilv
    @kimisilv 2 года назад +1

    Money can level the playing field but in general the referee is still racist.

  • @NeoAndersonChannel1
    @NeoAndersonChannel1 Год назад

    Just reading the quote in the title of the video, immediately comes to mind a scene from The Wire. When Marlo goes to The Greek's diner and leaves a briefcase full of cash, he is denied. They say his money stinks. Then he parlays with Prop Joe and gets schooled on "white money" game, cleans his cash, and comes back with a fresh briefcase, which made an impression on The Greek and got their acceptance.

  • @bronzkhrome4024
    @bronzkhrome4024 2 года назад

    When this guy claimed he was Jamaican....the ALL got TRIGGERED...it's so funny can't even describe how ridiculous the argument is going, lol

  • @chrisdragnet722
    @chrisdragnet722 2 года назад +2

    Never Forget....Never.

    • @LembeckIsStaying
      @LembeckIsStaying 2 года назад +1

      If they can still trip over 9/11 then don't say ish to us.

  • @drehassan1901
    @drehassan1901 2 года назад +1

    True nobody care about your color when you got money