GUITAR TONE - SPEAKER CHANGE UPGRADE BLACKSTAR HT 20 - CELESTION VINTAGE 30 G12
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- Want to improve the sound of the Blackstar HT Studio 20? Just upgrade the speaker. Watch in HD with good speakers to hear sound differences.
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With a Celestion Vintage 30 in your Blackstar HT Studio 20, you'll increase the volume and clarity. Now you can play with a band and easily cut through the mix.
Sound comparison was recorded by taping the speaker grill with indicators showing where the mics are to be placed before and after the speaker change. Two SM57 mics used with no phasing issues.
This demo has stood the test of time! I recently picked up a Blackstar HT-20 and also swapped out the stock speaker (Rocket 50) in favor of the Vintage 30 (UK version although the China version still rocks as you've demonstrated) and so far I'm thrilled with the differences. Thanks for the awesome video comparison. I'm glad I joined the club!
I put a Vintage 30 in a HT Club 40 and it's a completely different amp from the stock speaker. The absolute best upgrade you can do for a ht amp!
Did your ht club 40 have the same speaker as this one? I have the club 40 mkii which comes with a Celestion seventy 80 and I’m thinking of doing the swap.
@@IAmCjcj11 did you do the swap? I have the same amp, and have determined that swapping the speaker is my last ditch at keeping it. Lol. I'm between a v30 and a cream back
@@thedakotahurley I did not do the swap unfortunately. I kinda wanted to do a cab instead but yeah money got tight and I only play casually so it wasn’t really worth it.
Funny story though. It was sounding actually kind of horrible and I couldn’t figure out why. Then I realized my super shitty digitech pedal was causing issues. I would have assumed with all processing off it wouldn’t mess up the sound. Well anyways I think it shaved off some volume and colored the sound ever so slightly enough to make it sound like you had a paper thin wall between you and the amp.
I really only was using it for looping which made me super upset because then I coukdnt use it haha
@@IAmCjcj11 right on! yeah... digital stuff in the path tends to suck the tone right out of a tube amp. sux cuz there are so many cool digital fx
I have the same mod. What a difference that speaker makes. My neighbors two houses down can hear me. Loud is an understatement. Lov the tele. Great vid!!!! Thanks for making it.
+James Lambert It is loud! Thanks for watching & commenting.
+jAMMAN798 hope all is well 🎸
What kind of p/u is in the bridge of your tele? It sounds awesome!
James Lambert The pickup is a Seymour Duncan Hot Stack Tele.
For the first 20 seconds or so of playing it wasnt really clear comparing the two which sounded better but as soon as the guy started throwing the kitchen sink in there and the distortion upped the vintage 30 completely murdered the 50.Brilliant Demo.
I did the swap too based on your vids holy shit man its a huge difference it sounds so much better even at low volumes. Once the tube warms up its incredible how good this amp sounds. It just makes me more self conscious because I have to become way better to do the gear justice
***** Great to hear! Marshall & Orange amps sound best with a Vintage 30, hence the reason they use them, and the Blackstar is no exception.
Excellent video. Straight to the point; really well done
Thank you!
all praise the gods, thank you very much for this vid, I was doubting about the change but after this vid, there is no doubt, v30 ftw !!!
+Pablo Costas Great, thanks Pablo!
Wow! You can really hear the difference
That was a great vid That was a huge difference v30 sounded great thanks for sharing.
+Enrique Correa Thanks for watching and commenting!
I was blessed to come across a used (in brand new condition) Line 6 4x12 cab loaded with V30's for $300, they guitar shop didn't know what they had!
1thess523 Incredible! Four V30's for $300 is a dream deal. Orange and Mesa place them in their 4 x 12 cabs and sell them for over a grand.
Yeah I know that's crazy.
Good point. Blackstar, Marshall, Fender, Line 6, etc tend to use cost effective speakers in their lower priced combo amps. They voice these amps to work with the lower quality speakers & for the most part it works, until you crank the volume & have no dynamics to cut through the mix. So a speaker replacement of good quality, may require that you have to either add or decrease your treble/bass and even master volume settings at bedroom levels. However, you'll gain punch & overall note clarity.
HUGE difference!! I have played these amplifiers and really liked them at first, but after trying various different amplifiers found them to be darker, and less organic sounding than say a Marshall DSL15, or even the 40HT. With the new speaker i hear more pronounced mids, and much more detail, not to mention volume. The stock speaker had a little more bottom end, but the G12 sounded much better to me, cheers.
have u tried the g12 on a blackstar?
Dude... You rock... I love the new speaker.
It all depends on your taste and needs. There are plenty of good small tube amps in the same price range as the Blackstar HT20. Each amp has its own pluses and minuses. For the price the Blackstar has some nice features.
wow it is like entirely a. different amp, amazing
Great review and such difference with the Vintage 30....!
Will be upgrading the speakers in the 2 HTV-112 cabs I use with a HT-20 Blackstar Head. The Celestions 70/80 (80w 16 ohms) installed in those cabs lack definition. Next thing are the tubes. And yes this amp is loud enough for a rock gig!
Aloha! I still have stock speaker (may change after seeing this vid!) but I just put a new Tungsol matched set in my HT CLUB 40 and WOW! Smoother/creamier/louder all w/unreal sustain & harmonic feedback!!! Here’s the eBay link: rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F272065209397
Thank you. The original speaker that comes with the HT20 is fine for very low volume usage, but as soon as you get close to half volume or more it tends to sound like someone threw a blanket over the amp which makes it not so great for gigs or band practice when using tube distortion. However the Vintage 30 speaker makes that amp really punchy and tight and retains the highs and lows at high volume, which is what is needed for playing in a band.
do u think the blackstar with vintage 30 could be work great in a band? in mix i mean, specially for styles like grunge, punk, alternative, stoner, heavy metal. i ask u because those styles i play, im thinking to buy between an dsl40 and a BS ht40, could u give me some advices about this 2. i don't speak english but i guess u understand. good videos
Another great vid keep up the good work I love your videos upload as many as you can
Holy Cow ! I immediately ordered a Vintage 30 for my BlackStar Studio 20....... Celestion should give you u a commission for this great demo.... Have you or ANYONE tried a Celestion CREAMBACK in a Studio 20 ? Thanks for the Video
I have not tried the CREAMBACK. But I have tried the Celestion G12H 30w in the Blackstar and it sounds HEAVEN! The Vintage 30 I used in this video brings the amp to life and makes it louder and much brighter. If you play all types of music, then it is perfect. If you only play on your top three strings or drop tunings than the G12H is preferred.
How did it go with the speaker change dude? I'm on the verge of ordering some for my HT Stage 60
dude respect ...best video in youtube !!
+Christos Vasiliou Thanks brother! I appreciate that.
Nice finish with feedback at 4:20 !
;)
My HT 40 Club DELUXE came with Celestion's A-Type speaker. Sounds good too.
The Vintage 30 sounds good at low volume (I find you have to increase the treble a bit), but sounds fantastic at loud volumes.
Sweet video bro! I'm loving the vintage 30!
You can put most speakers in the Blackstar HT20 with no problems. Just ensure that you connect the speaker jack to the proper input at the back of the amp (either 16ohm or 8ohm) so that it matches the speaker you've just installed.
Way more lively! Sounds much better. Cheers!
I like that dirty channel riff 👍, reminds me of some punk stuff i listen to. Yes there was a big difference, i remember when my son started playing guitar seriously I started looking up amps and speakers and the Vintage 30 always took first place and i saw quite a few, the only speakers that I could say were better sounding were some Cream backs but everything else was beaten by the V 30's. My son found a Line 6 4x12 V 30's loaded cab for $120 at a pawn shop and I found the very same cab for $220 a few years earlier.
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Yep that's a difference, I'm considering swapping out my ID TVP 30w blackbird for one of these, as I have a suspicion the speaker is the biggest hurdle.
Due to the TVP range being built around a strict low end budget.
Oh my god the sound difference is unreal
nicely done dude
+William Fox Thanks William!
jAMMAN798 a
Huge difference - thanks for the vid. It motivated me to go for it. Though, Ive ordered a Cream back Neo for my already upgraded HT20 (valves so far). Maybe I should've gone with the V30
David King i am thinking about upgrading my club 40 with a creamback aswell, how die it turn out for you? I can’t find any demo’s of it
Thanks. My only secret to video making is to take a pile of video and edit it down to just a few minutes so it's not boring.
did you try your blackstar with a greenback? I'm stuck on whether I want a Greenback or a vintage 30 speaker for my studio. I hate my rocket 50. I also tried a WGS Invader 50 but that does not work with my pedals, I have no clue why. It's very harsh and ice picky i think. I'm afraid if I get a G12M-25 it'll be the same story.
Sold. Great video.
I can hear the difference through my phone speakers! I have Blackstar HT-112 cab, and I'm not happy with it. Will it be better to swap speaker or to get new 2x12 Celestion cab?
How to change on the black star 5 watt combo. I think they drunk when they made this amp and all the controls are underneath
Hi...I liked your vid. I wondered if you had considered the greenback in addition to the V30, and if so, what made you choose the V30? I'm considering upgrading the speakers in my cab, and I'm torn between those two.
Hi. Sorry for late response. Yes, I did consider the Blues vice the Greenbacks, but the Blues were too bright for my taste. Perhaps one Blue and one Greenback would work.
I have Blackstar HT Metal 60 combo with Seventy 80. Amp it self have dark sound, but with factory speakers sound alike that something is missing in between. Definitly will swap speakers for Vintage 30, but have seen that there is a few options China and UK made. Also, Vintage 30 for Mesa and Marshall. I prefere for Mesa, what is your advice. Thanks.
In the section where you are demoing the clean channel, the single note line is overdriven. Are you using a pedal? Sounds good!
+Jocelyn Hughes The single note sound you hear is an overdub. The note was played through the Backstar on the dirty channel with and without the new speaker.
Informative and entertaining
Very nice video! I'm going to upgrade my HT5R speaker (blackbird). I need to improve my clean and i don't know if i have to prefer Celestion V30 or Greenback.... :(
Get either one. You will notice a MASSIVE improvement. The magnet and voice coil in the factory speaker is complete garbage.
The vintage 30 has a huge magnet. It makes the amp super heavy but its well worth the money and weight
Interesting! Conversely, I wonder if the Vintage 30 sounds worst in low volumes than the old ? I have an HT-5 and I mostly play with the volume below half (bedroom player here) and I dunno what would happen if I'd throw a Vintage 30 in there
What ohm rating is the speaker? I plan on doing this to mine soon.
great video mate, are you in the uk?? if do where did you get the speaker and what's the exact model number? im definately gonny do the same upgrade, just want to make sure i get the exact same speaker.
thanks :)
The difference becomes much less pronounced when I manually compensate for the volume difference. This is the second video I've seen today of a Blackstar speaker swap. The replacement speaker was louder in the other video too.
You dont understand its night and day. The blackstar sounds like a mediocre amp stock. With a vintage 30 its an absolute monster of an amp.
Very loud, very versatile tones too.
Louder... The sensitivity is considerably higher with the v30.. It will be much louder for the same settings.
@@ryans9029 I made this comment about four years ago, but if I remember correctly the point I was getting at is that in many situations, people perceive louder to be better. This is in part due to the Fletcher Munson/equal loudness curve. It's good practice to volume match samples when assessing audio quality.
This is the comment I came looking for.
Thanks for posting this video. It seems blackstar gets a bad rep for not cutting through the mix. I often thought to myself how much of the issue was the stock speakers and you proved exactly what I was thinking. How does it sound with some power tube saturation?
Well, i guess it's worth trying this speaker as an upgrade in my HT-60 Soloist don't you think ? The V30 is 60 watts isn't it ? Sounds great ! What about the low end punch of the V30 ?
RoyvanRikken The Vintage 30 is rated at 60 watts. It would work fine in pretty much any amp up to 100 watts output (with speakers in guitar amps, it is not necessarily that important to match amp wattage to speaker wattage, but you should keep things within reason... i.e., a 100 watt head powering a 5 watt speaker may be overkill. What is important is to match Ohms, i.e., 4, 8 or 16). The Vintage 30 has great punch in a closed back cab. Orange and Mesa use them in their closed back cabs.
Thanks for this useful video Jamman. I recently traded for a used Blackstar Ht 20 combo, and am probably going to upgrade the speaker. I think I have settled on the Celestion V-Type, which I think has only been around a little over a year. I like what I'm hearing on RUclips vids of it. Do you have any experience with that speaker, and if so do you think it would be a good fit for the HT 20?
I use many Celestions & find the V-30 to be the better all around speaker.
Oh hell yeah man I need to do this!
Would you recommend the blackstar ht 20 with the v 30 to be the best smallish tube combo in that price range?
With the v30's the amp gets a sound even more marshallish
Brighter, louder and better string separation. Crackles more?
Clipping the mic. The 30 is much more efficient.
Logan Payne Awesome! Gonna get me one!
Logan Payne Sry forgot! Thank you! Great vid!
Great demo! love your editing style. =) But, is it bad that I like the old speaker better?
A good upgrade!
Hi. Its a 16 Ohmms speaker right?
at a certain moment of the video you said: "Replace Old speaker screws". What type of screws are those?
Are you happy with the amp? Would you recommend it?
Is it powerful enough to rehearse with a band? Thanks in advance
+Marcos H. Ary Sorry for the late reply (RUclips seems to hide some of the comments from me). The speaker is 16 ohm. The screws are just the ones that came with the amp (you're average wood screws). The amp is outstanding for a practice, studio and gig amp. I have used it with a drummer with no problem. You can use it to practice/gig with a band in small clubs. In bigger clubs you'll need to mic it.
Hey Jamman, thank you very much for your input! I'm really interested in this amp, I have the HT-1R and I love it. If I'll buy it, I'll do the same as you. I'm between it and a JCM800 copy, which is a great amp too. Thanks. Regards. Cheers
No problem. Both amps you mentioned are great!
I have an HT CLUB 40 Watt. Should I order the same speaker for this amp? 8-ohm or 16-ohm?
I have the ht20 head and was thinking about going to either the Club 50 head or the HT40 combo. I feel like the current sound is a bit muddy on the OD channel, and like there isnt enough headroom. But maybe the fix would be changing the speaker in the 2x12 cabinet? What are your thoughts?
+Jason Maltz The HT20 does get muddy at increased volume. An HT40 or Club 50 would solve that issue. A speaker change in the HT20 (like the Vintage 30) makes lead guitar stand out more at higher volume. However not as much change in rhythm. I think it is because Blackstar uses a type of compression in the overdrive gain, so when it's cranked it just sounds flat when too many notes are coming out at once.
Which would you go with the 40 or the 50.
+Jason Maltz It appears one is a cab and the other is a head. The difference between 40 watts and 50 watts is pretty much nil to the ear.
hey man! that sounds amazing! what model did you intalled? does it mater if I put 8ohms instead of a 16ohms v30?
+Carlos Pereira Cen You can put in an 8 ohm or 16 ohm speaker of any brand. You just have to be sure to plug the speaker cable into the correct speaker output on the back (either 8 ohm or 16 ohm).
Thanks man! That's great! What is the difference between 8 and 16 ohms? Sorry, Im not an expert and I'd like to know... What I knew is that 8ohms would be louder, is that right?
Thanks bro!
+Carlos Pereira Cen In simple terms, Ohms refers to resistance. So 16 Ohms would produce more resistance than 8 Ohms. The resistance in a speaker cone is created by the amount of copper winds around the cone (8 Ohms has less). Some believe that less resistance means a more dynamic sound. I honestly can't tell a difference. As far as louder is concerned... not at all, they'd both be the same volume. However if you plugged an 8 Ohm speaker into an 16 Ohm output, the speaker would not provide the correct resistance to the amp, so it may sound louder.... at least until the amp blows up or catches on fire. :)
Its hard to believe there is that much difference between those speakers. But then again, I have heard over and over that the Vintage 30 is "The" speaker to have.
Jeff McLowry I'm a big fan of the Vintage 30 speaker. You can find it in speaker cabs from Marshall, Orange, Mesa Boogie, etc. It has a very high output, yet remains very articulate, punchy and bright. It's sort of like a poor man's high end alnico speaker at half the cost.
Well I purchased two Vintage 30's and I gotta say, I like what I am hearing. I have been trying different speakers in my amp and so far all have been a Celestion of one sort or another: G12P-80, 70/Eighty, and another I can't remember the number on. Also a British Tonker, and a Fender Special Design rated at 50w. I have tried each as a single and paired with others. I figure someone will have something smartassed to say but so far I have really liked the 70/Eighty. It took a couple months to get it broke in but it smoothed our nicely. But this V30 60w has a definite change for the better in the articulation of the notes and chords. I haven't had the opportunity to turn it up loud and get the speaker working because I live in an apartment. But as soon as I see my two neighbors gone I am crankin' the bad boy up! Definitely my new favorite so far!
Hey dude I'm considering buying one of these today blackstar ht20
I need your advice as you have had all the amps orange fender etc , what do you think I'm hearing mixed reviews ??
The HT20 is a reliable studio and practice amp. You can use it for stage in very small venues. Even with the stock speaker it sounds fine and is good for pretty much all types of music.
Night and day!
Does the v30 get rid of all the horrible muffled sound the original has?
+Bats The v30 has more mids and top end as well as volume, so the answer is yes.
jAMMAN798 Thanks :)
+jAMMAN798 actually is has a more "aggresive tone" due to the higher output and the fact it pulls the mids...its not a differend sounding speaker..just 2 or 3 steps higher than the stock
Yes.
Hi! is this amp louder enough for pubs and live situations? i play with a stratocaster with single coils and the other guitarist of my band uses a les paul (I remember that cleans didn't get out live if i didn't move the volume over 6/7 in some situations on LC30 wich was a 30 watt ( i sold it for other reasons ). Does the vintage 30 increase the volume of the amp? thank u and really sorry for my english ;)
Very Good Video, Cheers
Very nice!!!
Great video!
Nice vid... I was on the fence about swapping out the Seventy 80 with a Vintage 30 in my combo, but I think I'll go ahead and take the plunge.
What was the second demo tune? Sounds familiar but I can't place it.
hi buddy, very nice video, 2 questions, is this speaker made in china and 16ohms? thanks
+Guilherme Freitas Hi. Yes, the speaker is a made in "somewhere other than England", and it is 16 ohms.
Huge difference. Awesome demo!
im thinking to get a cabinet with 1x12 Vintage 30 for my blackstar HT1R combo. Do you think maybe 60w its to much for the little 1w to handle? should I better get the greenback 25W ? (even though.. i kind of prefer more the tone of the V30 from what I saw on youtube)
Roby robert The watts should not matter much as your amp can't exceed them. The only thing you need to match is the Ohms. Whatever your amp calls for, that is what you need to match (4 Ohms, or 8 Ohms or 16 Ohms).
I see they sell these speakers in both 8 & 16 ohm versions. Which do I want for the HT 20?
Have a look at the back of the HT20. It will take an 8 ohm or 16 ohm speaker. In my demo I used a 16 ohm as that is the most common.
Night and day.
Im about to do the exactly same thing to my ht20, question is do i buy 16ohm or 8ohm? Based on the video here i see its kinda easy to replace it, just plug n play. There's no need for soldering or anything?
+faridz husaini You can put either an 8 ohm or 16 ohm speaker in the HT20. Just be certain to plug the speaker into the correct output jack (i.e., 16 or 8 ohm). Just pull the wires off the old speaker and attached to the new one. No requirement to soldering. It's pretty much plug and play.
I am wondering what the proper ohmage ( speaker load ) is for the amp because I have 2 Celestions that I am not using , a Greenback and another Celestion that I think are both 8 ohms ?
You can use 8 or 16 with this amp. Just plug the speaker cable into the correct input on the amp.
Ya thanks , upon closer observation you are correct . I just need to find our how many ohms a Celestion G12 M70 is so I can try it and I also have a 25 watt 12 " Greenback to try too
I just want to ask your opinion as in against a dual terror or a peavey classic 30
I would place the 3 amps you mentioned in this order for music versatility... Dual Terror, HT20, Peavey Classic.
I have this same amp and on the OD Channel I can't get it to sound nearly as good as yours, it just seems to go straight to high gain. And how did you get that nice low gain overdrive on the clean channel? I am planning on doing this speaker change and also thinking of replacing the OD Preamp tube with a 12AY7 for lower gain and a more manageable sweep.
Herb Nerb The amp settings I used are shown in the video. If you're using similar guitars (i.e., single coils then hum buckers) you should get the same sound.
hi, I currently own a blackstar ht5r which doesn't have a master volume like your ht20, and i've been wondering if there is any difference in the type of distortion you get when you turn up the master and when you turn up the volume of the dirty channel?
Gabriel Flores The volume control on the dirty channel is used so that you can match the output to the same volume as the clean channel. This way when you switch between channels there is no sudden volume increase or decrease. The volume on the dirty channel has some effect on the gain. If you increase the volume, it will also drive the gain, depending on where you have the gain set at. This is also true if you set the gain at a certain setting, and the channel volume at a certain setting, and then increase the Master. The louder the amp gets, it will also slowly increase the overall distortion because the speaker is now being driven harder.
Ohh okay I get it, thank you!
New speaker is 8 or 16 oms?
The original crrap Celestion these come with are really really crap, a must upgrade, as you can see here! good demo!
MY stock speaker in soloist is seventy80. What do you think changing it for Vibtage 30?
+Guilherme Freitas The Vintage 30 is definitely a step up in sound quality if you're using a guitar with good quality humbuckers (not the chinese ones).
Thanks!
hey my amp has a little bit of hum, (its a digital not a tube) would changing the speakers help or should i just get another amp?
+Sean Gustafson Hmmmmm.... an amp with a hum could be from anything plugged into it (cables, effects, guitars). If it hums when nothing is plugged into it, then it could be the power source. Move it to a different power source on a different circuit breaker in your home. Changing the speaker would make no difference.
Do you think that this head could push two of these speakers well on the 8 ohm output?
Thanks
Jason A Boudreau The answer is Yes... But, you have to be sure that both speakers add up to 8 ohms (this depends on how you wire them together).
IMPRESSIVE.
Nice video- I can hear a difference :-)
I just made a tubes comparison video for a HT20 head, but your editing style makes my video look so very very amateurish!
How do you learn to make such good videos?
Any recommendation for new tubes in this amp?
Daniel DeMayo Aloha! I still have stock speaker (may change after seeing this vid!) but I just put a new Tungsol matched set in my HT CLUB 40 and WOW! Smoother/creamier/louder all w/unreal sustain & harmonic feedback!!! Here’s the eBay link: rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F272065209397
makes me feel like getting a Stack with vintage30 instead of a combo
I bought an HT-20 about a month ago... I love it!!! I've thought about getting the Vintage 30 speaker for it... I'm just confused about your video... It seems that you plugged the Vintage 30 into the 16 ohm output... Shouldn't it be in the 8 ohm output for proper matching??? I played New Years Eve at The Bowery in Myrtle Beach, SC (Where Alabama was the house band for about 8 years) Everybody seemed to love the new amp sound!!! I used to play a Rivera 1-12 combo with a Vintage 30, I think the Blackstar has it beat, it was brand new, for $600.00... And I paid $1300.00 for the Rivera!!!!!!
The Celestion Vintage 30 speaker comes in an 8 Ohm and a 16 Ohm model. The one in this video was the 16 Ohm.
Oh, ok thanks... That explains it. Do you recommend the 16 ohm, or the 8 ohm, it seems that you could increase the power output level of the amp by using one 8 ohm speaker, and connect it to the 8 ohm output...
gitrman100 Hmmm, I've never heard that one before and can't figure out how that could be (but I don't know everything, so it could be possible). Here is what I do know... Your amp has to produce voltage to run the speaker & the Ohms on the speaker are the amount of resistance. So if there is more resistance (i.e., 16 Ohms speaker), you're amp needs to produce more voltage. If less resistance (i.e., 8 Ohms speaker) then you select the 8 Ohm output. If you plug an 8 Ohms speaker into the 16 Ohms output, then you're amp is sending too much voltage to the speaker. The speaker may not blow, but your amp will overheat due to lack of resistance and perhaps melt a few internal parts. You can increase volume in the amp by replacing the speaker with a higher decibel one. The Rocket 50 in the Blackstar is rated really low in decibels, whereas the V30 is much higher (hence the volume increase I experienced).
Well, my theory on the more power output comes from knowing about a power amp into PA Speakers. Some amps will give, maybe 800 watts per side with 8 ohm, and say, maybe 1200 watts per side at 4 ohm... (just a made up set of numbers, but you know what I'm saying). Power amps will put out more watts at lower ohm load. At least the PA type of power amp. I think the Blackstar is the 1st amp I've ever had that had a 16 ohm speaker... And it does have a 8 ohm output on the back. Still trying to decide if I want to replace the stock speaker with a 16 ohm or 8 ohm Vintage 30... And thanks for your replies!!! :)
gitrman100 Can't say if there would be any real noticeable difference between the 16 or 8 Ohm speaker, only because any difference would be adjusted for by plugging it into the matching output on the amp. So in summary, the better speaker is the one that will meet your needs for now and in the future if you decide to add additional cabs and need to make use of the available amp speaker outputs.
Is it safe to swap the speaker myself? Like changing a lightbulb from what I can see
McFro95 It is a very easy job, just be sure to: Replace the speaker with another 16 ohm or 8 ohm one. Attach the positive and negative wires to the correct positive and negative contacts on the speaker. Plug the speaker cable into the 16 ohm jack (for 16 ohm speaker) or 8 ohm jack (for 8 ohm speaker) on the back of the speaker, and finally keep pointy objects away from the speaker because it can puncture easy.
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Just one question, it's the stock speaker 16 ohms? Did you replace with a 16 Ohms Celestion V 30?
Yes, In the video I replace the stock Rocket 50 (16 Ohms) with a Celestion Vintage 30 (16 Ohms).
Is the internal speaker connection wired to 8 ohms or 16 ohms?
szucsantalmor The internal speaker is 16 ohms and the wire is connected to the 16 ohm output.
hello friend, this v30 is Chinese? do you think that has the same quality of English? sorry, I'm using a translator because I do not speak English!
+will smith I'm not sure if it is Chinese. I think the Chinese and English (U.K.) speakers are very much the same. It is the same technology and machines used to build them.
+jAMMAN798 thank you, bought one here in Brazil and is the china. I hope it's a good deal. hug !
+jAMMAN798 I have a 2x12 Palmer box with the v30 s in it and they are not Uk made and i think it is a defferince, i would buy the original Uk made speakers.
hello there, can i know whats the ohm for the stock speaker and the vintage 30? thank you :)
+Haikal Hanafiah Hi, both are 16 ohms.
friend, you swear you have not changed the equalization of drives and clens ?? ahahah because the difference in sound is impressive, like water and wine, I own a solosit and will also change after this video
+Guilherme Freitas Correct, I've made no EQ changes in the vid. The sound difference is all due to the speaker replacement. One thing I should point out is that the Blackstar amps are factory EQ'd for the stock speakers they come with. When you add a Vintage 30 the sound is much louder, brighter and clearer so you may find the EQ settings that you're used to with the stock speaker may have to be tweaked slightly for the new speaker.
Hey, great video! I have a question. I'm thinking about purchasing one of these but I noticed that there's two different models of these speakers -
i.imgur.com/MvRGk3k.jpg
and
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One is slightly golden (like yours in the video) and has the word "G12" or either side. The other is silver and has "G12" on one side and "8 ohm" on the other. I was wondering if there's any differences between these two speakers sound wise?
+Finn McLeod One of those speakers is made in the UK and the other is made in China. Also there could be a difference of Ohms between the two (8 Ohm vs 16 Ohm). Any difference you ask? In my opinion there is zero difference. A speaker is a relatively simple item to make with simple components. If it's made in the UK or China, no difference. Same is true for Ohms (8 or 16). You just get the correct Ohms to match your amplifiers output.
+jAMMAN798 Wow thanks for the fast response! I wasn't expecting that! Would you recommend this speaker? At the moment I have the stock rocket 50 and it's very muddy and sounds like it has a blanket over it. I'm very into metal and I've heard a lot of positive things about the V30. What do you think?
Also, I have a HT-20 too. Which ohm speaker do I get, the 8 or 16 ?
Finn McLeod You can get either 8 or 16 Ohms. Just plug the speaker cable into the correct jack on the back. Myself I would stick with 16 Ohms as that is what the amp is designed for. If you're into metal, then there are plenty of metal celestial speakers that have a tight bottom end such as the Celestion G12T-75 or G12K-100. The Vintage 30 is designed to push the midrange which sounds great for amps that play all types of music, but if you're only playing metal, then go with a metal sounding speaker.
+jAMMAN798 Well I'm a diverse player. I love playing all types of music. I'm just wondering if this will suffice for metal? Thanks for all the help and input by the way! Really really appreciate it!
Finn McLeod It will do fine, but the Vintage 30 will push more mids and highs which is something you don't normally want in metal music. You'll just have to adjust the EQ on the amp.
Looking to do this on my HT Stage 60. My choice's are 8 ohm or 16. Any advice from anyone? Thanks.
nacuda9 I'd say it all depends on the speaker outputs on the back of your amp (how you wish to use them in future with additional extension speakers), and if you find a price difference between the 8 ohm or 16 ohm. As for sound differences between an 8 & 16 ohm speaker through the same amp, it could be that there are, but in my experience that sometimes has more to do with how the amp is wired internally for the 8 & 16 ohm speaker outputs. I would think that in the past with old hand wired amps this would have been an issue due to resistors and wiring not being exactly to spec. But today's amps are pretty much digital circuits when it comes to the speaker outputs, so everything is matched perfectly (just my thoughts). Perhaps others have had experience with the sound of an 8 ohm vs 16 ohm and can post some helpful advice. Cheers mate.
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Umm I think I need this upgrade in my HT 40
celestion greenback!!